I Can't Believe they did this || Deepwoken

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[@cubismz]

Completely agree. As a dev for a couple PvP-focused games, the Deepwoken devs seem to have their heads up their asses constantly when making these changes. They should've never made the game have a high emphasis on PvE elements if they're just going to punish people who make builds focused on those elements. If they want a game where people are constantly fighting each other, just turn Deepwoken into a battlegrounds game with RPG-like progression. The permadeath system only works well if every death is fair and is a direct result of lack of skill. Players should not be able to kill others in 10 hits, and things that allow this should be changed or removed, not ignored for a week while the players have to wait until the next Friday to hope the devs release a patch/nerf. Deepwoken's poor optimization often leads to unfair deaths due to lag on the server's end, or due to a player move-stacking them while they can't do anything to get out of it. The devs are lucky that there isn't another game similar to Deepwoken that is made with the same level of quality, otherwise players would easily flock to that. The only thing keeping Deepwoken afloat, in my opinion, is that there simply isn't anything else to play in that realm. The moment a better game releases, it's game-over for Deepwoken.

[@Kofhiliphus]

Verdant moon... I miss that game.

[@oskarox06]

@@cubismz and somehow, some way, even after youll explain that to people, the only word they are capable to use, is skill issue. Bruh

[@cubismz]

@@Kofhiliphus Feel so bad for Iltria. Joined the Deepwoken team and was genuinely an amazing and creative dev, actually came up with unique ideas for things in the game instead of ripping it from some anime. Was bullied by the community for being a woman, and ultimately decided to leave. Really hope she succeeds in whatever else she decides to do

[@Kofhiliphus]

@cubismz I thought she was bullied for not giving astral? And bro, she was really good and actually one of the few devs that inspired me to try oursuing game design as a career because her games, despite unpolished. Has actual good narrative and she definitely peak at verdant and probably even the one who lay down the world building and system of deepwoken.

[@j.s.t.animates9306]

I honestly don’t agree with the idea of battle grounds idea at ALL. Battle grounds are very lazy in terms of design, and do not have enjoyable progressions. If they wanted a PvP focused game then they shouldn’t have announced deepwoken as a PvE centered game. That simple.

[@_mintyfresh]

Pair this with realm being removed depth gankers are probably gonna be all over now 😔

[@Uncreat1ve]

Yippee!

[@EldritchEntityWithASmartphone]

Icl I came back to the game just to wipe max lvls without them being able to run

[@GaLODOIDO130]

What you mean?? the exact point of this upd is the dephs ganker to be lass safier than before given that realm is gone, so they can just fast wipe freshies and scape by voiding. U guys didnt got the point???? How ''depth gankers are probably gonna be all over now'' If they got hit by a single combo u get under 75%, my build get u under 65% in SINGLE COMBO, thats why Inu got pissed and all that come from. Yall really need to exprience the game before saying anything about it, thank god Deepwoken did this, now they cannot longer scape from me in dephs 🙏🙏

[@ahmedplayz838]

Thats good for non pvp players and pve players and freshies are much safer

[@poopshitterslostmedia]

​@@GaLODOIDO130so its totally fine for pve builds to get jumped and wiped without being able to fight back

[@soger3d639]

Assassin builds just shouldn't be in the game its a terrible idea

[@DestinedDebt]

UH NUH UH I LIKE TALENt GO BOOMRMRRM

[@ТагирК-и8т]

then what is the reason for assassinations if its bad for PvE and it shouldn't be in PvP

[@guigarr1837]

Assassination builds could be explored further. Like, high burst of damage at first, but then during an actual fight they're ahh and have low chances of winning

[@deltapoint2610]

@@ТагирК-и8тyou can keep your assassinations for pve. Having a method meant to swiftly kill someone in mere seconds... in. a. *PERMADEATH GAME* is not a good idea

[@pantommy]

​@@guigarr1837this kind of extreme balancing isn't fun because it removes the player skill component. You either oneshot or you shit the bed. It's intrinsically cheese. Think of something like spy from TF2, what justifies it's oneshot? Why, the very fact that he has to get in a position to earn his oneshot. In deepwoken, getting an assassination is stupid easy, especially with talents. Catching up is easy, asking players something and assassinating them while they type is also really easy and exploits a mechanic outside of the game (I don't think typing is an intentional "stun" in deepwoken's game design lol). They just don't work.

[@BigFellaDj]

i sort of understand where they're coming from with this change due to complaints arising of people using voiding as a get out of jail free card for depths 1s ever since the 50% void rule was added, but due to powercreep making builds stronger and voidheart getting the ability to run (somewhat) re-added, this just seems more like striking the iron when its ice cold

[@Yeetmaster_1]

fr bro this was not a good idea

[@diamondngocplayer1740]

The main issue was the 75% rule for the void now wasn’t written in the logs which got people killed

[@rubyace7058]

valid points, archmage dont care

[@Yeetmaster_1]

yeah this sucks ngl

[@TheRealAsobuw]

I had a no shrine visionshaper build meant just for spinning back to depth gankers and now its useless i need ro remake it add assassination and use shrine

[@TheRealAsobuw]

And jet striker

[@littlehamham3281]

i think of all things to complain abt nowadays its insane that they just rework an oath with 0 warning both my silentheart and visionshaper builds are pretty buns now cause they were made with removed or reworked mechanics in mind

[@oskarox06]

and people even after explaining to them that not everyone wants a mid maxed pvp build, will still say just get gut, like brother wdym get gut if i get punished by missing 1 of the parrys with 30% less health that aint good, and you also are meant to just sit there and take it like huh???

[@marce4092]

day by day the permadeath aspect of deepwoken becomes more of a nuisance than a game feature, having to bounce around it every single update.

[@nikosmadamas3234]

how about they make it so that if you solo diluvian wave 25 your build gets pve tagged and as long as you dont swap your bell and mantras you get a pve tag that allows you to void at 50% instead

[@Yeetmaster_1]

Yeah but I saw a better Idea around here that was an echo modifier that makes it so you can't drop below 80% hp in the first 10-15 seconds of combat at the cost of having heavily reduced damage in pvp

[@seaofthievesclips2944]

Yeah Assassin builds are just completely unfair

[@seaofthievesclips2944]

Man this change sucks I already didn't like being in depths and now its worse

[@AMan-ub8cd]

fr bro

[@yeetmaster7910]

Yeah idk why they decided this was a good idea

[@soger3d639]

Man this change sucks I main pve and my best tool for dealing with depths gankers is gone now

[@Yeetmaster_1]

Fr bro idk why they decided to do this

[@elliott7246]

i miss the old deepwoken fr

[@littlehamham3281]

voidwalker nerfed and pve players nerfed deepwoken devs out here hurtin those that need the most help ong

[@Yeetmaster_1]

@@littlehamham3281 I don’t even voidwalk anymore outside of ganks because just doing job boards at hive is the fastest xp farm in the game😭

[@littlehamham3281]

@@Yeetmaster_1 voidwalker is like lone wolf but you get less xp from basically everything (lets be fr pvp doesnt give much xp), you cant use mystic in to1 (which you'll do anyway), and you cant set a mobile waypoint (i dont get why you cant spawn at voidheart anymore, give me back my ferryman tp) the only benefit is being able to sell stuff

[@Yeetmaster_1]

@@littlehamham3281 the time it takes to prog is the exact same with job boards and I gank in overworld so I need voidwalker to move my slots around

[@shoerific]

I don’t want to get A-trained by some max strength Jetstriker who slide cancels assassinate strong lefts me off the edge of the bridge without being able to pull out my weapon because of that one talent, that is not funny, that is bullshit

[@packwarden]

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[@slowwwind]

running out of ideas = clickbait

[@Yeetmaster_1]

Mild clickbait 🙏

[@Setnet_]

Actually it isn't only assassinate high pen builds can just kill players in 5hits without crouching like monkey

[@Lauseryqs]

nah most pve builds actually do a lot of damage and if its for dilluvian pretty tanky too, if u cant deal with depths gankers its skill issue unless its a heavy assassin builds, that shit wont let u do anything

[@Yeetmaster_1]

You would have to be majorly boosted to lose to a pve build. Most new gen pves are brick wall gale which is alright for pvp. But you still need to be bad to lose on a pure pvp build.

[@theofficialpenumbras]

Ah yes its skill issue that the depths ganker build has freaking 50% physical resistance 35% elemental resistance with 550 HP silentheart that deals 20% per m1 while all i have is 25% monster armor with almost none physical resistance with 50% dvm and a battle axe and only easily parryable mantras, people don’t get the point the video is to explain how pve builds have a extreme disvantage and firstly depths ganking were not meant to happen, the game doesnt give you any reason to wipe someone Edit: ig its also skill issue that i couldnt handle a 3v1 (im not agamatsu or inu)

[@ZxZizzal]

They have dvm gear, way less pvp talents, and barely any pvp mantras, like oh ye time to beat this depths ganker with blinding dawn tornado and gale punch!

[@Yeetmaster_1]

@@ZxZizzal real

[@nikosmadamas3234]

bro does not know what monster armor kits mean edit: forgot to mention that now most pve builds will be mages with non pvp mantras given how pve silentheart got gutted meaning no more high dmg/high res pve players

[@DeepwokenFiend]

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[@AMan-ub8cd]

Nah this change is terrible

[@Onyxisbetter]

You sound like you just got depths ganked

[@Yeetmaster_1]

@@Onyxisbetter other way around

[@Onyxisbetter]

@@Yeetmaster_1then why were you on the verge of tears the whole video 😭

[@Yeetmaster_1]

@@Onyxisbetter I’m not that’s just how my voice sounds through my mic😭🙏

[@Onyxisbetter]

@@Yeetmaster_1 sureeee

[@Yeetmaster_1]

@@Onyxisbetter I’m being so deadass rn I do not care if my builds wipe I have like 30-40 rn and make a new one almost every 3 days💀

[@egglips3541]

i love it idk abt yall

[@DeepwokenFiend]

Also this is a good change now people won't be able to get away from my deepspindle jetstriker assassin build LOL

[@CR51275]

assassin builds shouldn't be in the game

[@rubyace7058]

slide slide slide slide

[@ilikechicken5524]

​@@CR51275 why?

[@KalebisaVillain]

@@ilikechicken5524 1 combo build with no counter if they see you before you see them

[@saulgoodman9449]

@@ilikechicken5524??? do 1 bar + cripple your opponent and instant tp to them? isnt deepwoken a game that revolves around SKILL

[@ikari2927]

what is that green thing around them in the video

[@Yeetmaster_1]

@@ikari2927 entanglement enchant is prob what you are talking about

[@Fuhgy414]

Eclipse is gonna hate this change bro

[@Wuffix]

i think assassinations should either be removed(at least from pvp) or just not be remotely close to being meta currently you can backstab from a solid 8 or so characters away doing 25% dmg(which i think is true dmg unless you have turtle shell), gain 50% pen(instant pen cap or if they have pen uncapped its pretty easily gonna reach 100+%) & blinds them each time + you can do this multiple time in a fight because someone decided being able to assassinate in combat was a good idea & the ONLY counter is being in arc suit(turtle shell halves the dmg but its just not enough to do anything)

[@pantommy]

I think assassinations should be reworked into giving you advantages for the battle rather than getting instant rewards for landing a simple backstab. Stuff like temporarily hindering your opponent's armor resist, ether gain, mantra cooldowns. Literally anything but straight up damage, so that you still have to earn your damage through fighting. Assassinations would basically work like an upper hand, not an instant damage source. You still need to be good to make the most of the upper hand.

[@CR51275]

Idk why the devs thought this was a good idea hopefully they listen to the suggestions and revert this

[@dorshaldoes5055]

Even as time goes on permadeath just keeps ruining this game… literally only exists for toxic people if you really think about it. The fact permadeath was added for a fear factor(actually asked about it with ragoozer) is just not really good game design especially for a mmorpg where you can just make the same character again. You’re never going to get the rogue lineage feeling again after you played the pve it just never really works for its intended purpose. What doesn’t help is that they keep putting bandaids over the mechanic and I wonder why?

[@pantommy]

Even the rogue feel died off considering you can boost yourself back in like 3 hours. Permadeath really is just a quick fix for adrenaline junkies, you eventually get used to it and it just becomes a chore, especially in a mmorpg. The game severely lacks roguelite elements to justify permadeath, echoes are the last thing standing and they're really bland. Permadeath really is holding the game back in some ways, but you gotta have it because it's "hardcore".

[@dorshaldoes5055]

@@pantommy Theres like a simple solution as well just make a hardcore mode option, theres a reason why its a difficulty OPTION in these games

[@littlehamham3281]

Ive been playing since the first 15 minutes of release, and occasionally I still get that rush when I'm about to wipe, but I don't think anybody with more than 20 hours of "fears" permadeath anymore. I still like permadeath over not having it in a game like Deepwoken because I feel like if there are no stakes, then I won't find the same enjoyment. Sure, I like fighting people; the PVP is what I play for, but when I'm about to die and I lock in and win, there's not a better feeling a Roblox game can provide. Now, aside from my weird opinions (to which I have many), the real reason they won't change permadeath is because the game is centered around its mechanics, like depths, bells, and progression, which are centered around wiping. Deep developers are lazy, but removing a core mechanic will naturally make a lot of people mad. I mean, when they removed reservoir and longer parry trade-based combat to more combo-oriented tempo combat, people were mad (I was one of them) when they added the depths elevator and removed climbing from the walls (which was useless considering you can just put a barrel on the elevator and do the same thing). People weren't happy. Completely negating or removing a core mechanic will leave a lot of people mad, even if the change is more convenient.

[@pantommy]

@@dorshaldoes5055 permadeath adds no difficulty to the game. At all. Like, absolutely nothing is changed besides you having to redo your work progressing (work that didn't require any real skill to begin with). People confuse tedious with difficult.

[@nightmare-ky9qq]

I think an easy solution would be where dying on the surface sent you to the depths and dying in the depths sent you straight to either layer 2 or trials this makes it so depths gankers are still an inconvenience but at least your not getting wiped out of nowhere it also keeps the permadeath idea while also being more punishing for the pvp player than the pve

[@someonewashere480]

Arcwarder builds are going be mera, since the Arc suit NEGATES assesiations

[@IcyPickleYT]

Hear me out: 100 fort 100 wp talent Getting put in player combat reduces damage taken by up to 100% depending on hp above 80% (basically doesn't let you get below 80%) for 7 seconds, this would give you a chance to run away from depths gankers as a pve build.

[@Yeetmaster_1]

actually that would be good but that is never getting added

[@ennegsis0050]

Nice you just cucked pvp with this idea. Beneficial for pve but ruins pvp. Ppl would most definitely abuse this and devs wouldn't make this a pve exclusive talent for ppl just because they don't wanna remake a build or pass down some hp/dmv packs etc

[@IcyPickleYT]

@@ennegsis0050 then make it an echo modifier, only works in the depths, but gives you a 25% damage debuff on all pvp even in the overworld

[@freyr399]

@@ennegsis0050 it doesnt really ruin pvp because its not op enough to make people want to use 200 of their stats in fort and wp

[@bliutusdivais]

​@@IcyPickleYTthey wanna make an origin for pve, even if they didnt, your idea is terrible for pvp and ganks in general

[@friendlygaming5579]

I wiped just yesterday cuz of this new update on my pve, the guy did 30 percent instantly and cuz of the new stupid update i wiped

[@gwendalmabelplisetskayabru7386]

I dont mind the gankers because I already have a pretty safe route to not cover much travel on foot, and even then I can just go to the emptiest server ever and go to my destination. What I do hate is that now Deepbound's progresion got worse since there's always gonna be people plotting something, so now I can't prog some builds I had on my waiting list. Btw regarding Assassin builds, I used to run one on surface and I can tell yall the best way to completly stop a combo is inmediatly venting as soon as you get backstabbed, then just roll cancel your way outta there because you recive 50% extra pen from attacks for 5 seconds, your speed is reduced (And you can jump) for 3 seconds and ur blinding for 5 seconds.

[@gwendalmabelplisetskayabru7386]

Side note: Forgot to add but your average assassin build is really vulnerable even to the most regular SH PvE build, assassins have really low hp compared to other builds and SH do a lotta damage per m1, as well as having (On average) 50% mantra damage reduction from "Return to the dark ages", 25% mantra resistance and armor (Usually ignition deepdelver)

[@Pillowonachair]

Always wondered if I should play deepwoken. I understand none of this, nor the repercussions. Makes me feel better when I see things like this.

[@The_Codemaster144k]

Tbh I have it and it's really fun with friends. Dw about too much of this video for now as you probably aren't gonna be exploring the depths very often at first and if you get ganked on the overworld its super easy to get lives back. It's a really fun game tho its higher quality than most other Roblox games and for that I think of deserves some respect

[@GabrielPereira-ej7wq]

Bro talked a lot and didn't say shit, lemme put this in a way you guys will understand: A power 15 will survive a fall into layer 2 while a power 20 minmax build will not. This not only DOESN'T MAKE A FUCKING SENSE either lore-wise or gameplay-wise but also incentivises ganking in the dephts and "1 tap f@g builds". I really want to understand the logic behind this decision, when and where does it make sense that a higher level powerfull character has less chance to survive in the same situation as mid-game character?

[@Yeetmaster_1]

@@GabrielPereira-ej7wq I wanted that watch time😭🙏

[@GourmandRamsey]

@@Yeetmaster_1 Fair enough.

[@ConfirmedZer0]

i love how depths gankers ignore the core issues with this change like here's a suggestion: how about the devs get rid of assassination and cheese builds for once, then this change would be okay this ain't rogue lineage where you can be 100-0'd in a single combo by a faceless, yet that's where deep is headed with its unbalanced nature remember when deep was skill vs skill?

[@nightmare-ky9qq]

This change is legit the reason I’m getting burnt out from deepwoken I completed a all round depths build (1 cycle ethrion and brick wall) and went to carry some people in diluvian a guy spawned into the server immediately attacked me and within like 2 moves I was at 85% hp I went to run to void and the dude chased me down and got me to 75% so I had to fight him because I was nowhere near the void and my mantras are pve I can’t fight this guy I got demolished and when I went to make a new build a freshie gripper was at castle light and I just gave up

[@Vykeiz]

Fr dude!!! Today ok yes in salty but today a goofy ahh kid 2v1d me one was like min maxed other one was def power 16 ish they both c tagged me w taunt and im a pve ofc (that skipper gripper gale build for dilluvian) spent so long making that build 2😭

[@mepuffer]

I just hate assasination, like "Oh yeah! Lets just add a feature where if you got the right cards, no matter what weapon you have, you can apply anti heal, blinding, slowness, get a entire free cheesy combo, with an assasination, that you can use in combat!"

[@Waverly_ppl]

this update is telling people "dont be bad"

[@Clumsykae]

“I can’t believe you’ve done this” 😂

[@sylehu]

Can we talk about the fact that he cooked his opponent at the beggining of the vid ?

[@EJsmol]

I swear in any gank at all, there’s at least one cringey assassin build doing 2 bars of you hp behinds your back, and if there’s more than one than just wipe irl

[@sinz8130]

I think the assassination & cheeze builds are the one to be complained about, not this void change. Realistically, depth ganker are more likely to have the chasing mantra or have grav bell to keep victim in place and prevent them from jumping to void. I think increased void threshold is pretty unlikely to make escape 'harder' considering you are more likely to die before even reaching the void if you are jumped by like 3 people. Meanwhile this, the victim aren unlikely to have these chasing mantra as the gankers. So depth gankers would be abusing this fact to just escape to void in the most slightest inconvenience. I just think depth gankers are the one who abuse this void escape the most. 'Get out of jail free wheb

[@pantommy]

Instakill voids in a permadeath game should be complained about. Literally learned nothing from Rogue Lineage, they just cling onto stupid things like these. If layer 2 was a proper world rather than a dungeon, maybe following people into the void would've actually worked towards solving this stupid void problem.

[@sinz8130]

@@pantommy Please read what I said

[@pantommy]

@@sinz8130 I did, I'm still of the opinion instakill voids are moronic regardless of whatever other strings you attach. There shouldn't be ways to instantly wipe as easily as just falling into a killbrick. The initial change was meant to stop people from cheesing others by flinging them into the void (which was a huge problem in verse 1). Obviously, it worked too well. The problem of using the void to escape also has to do with layer 2 being a dungeon instead of an open world, because if it was an open world chasing would've been a reality. The problem also lies in this stupid "PvE" and "PvP" separation. No matter what you do, a PvE build will never be able to compete, but it's also not fair to just give them the option to escape. There should've never been this divide, PvP and PvE should've been seamlessly integrated so that all builds can part-take in both, but it's a little late for that now.

[@sinz8130]

​@@pantommy It just really get me mad when you say 'learn nothing from rogue lineage' when this is clearly different games and nothing here is ever similar to rogue lineage. Even after this change, this is much more generous than verse 1. Even if the layer 2 was some open world, it wouldn't change anything as long as jumping into the void is escaping from any threat. Depth is a dangerous place, as single death can wipe your character there. It is normal for people to be aware of their surrounding and avoid risks, depth ganker included. I'm not going onto this ">> Deepwoken is a difficult game with permanent character loss. Losing characters is a part of the game that should be expected.

[@pantommy]

@@sinz8130 the point about learning nothing from rogue lineage is that voids had the same issue as they did in verse 1, where people just knocked you into them and you'd be instakilled. If layer 2 was an open world, it wouldn't be an escape anymore. People would be able to chase after you (join parameters allow this). I don't care about what % they make it or whatever change, it's still a bandaid fix for a stupid design choice that they abused in rogue lineage and they're still implementing here. Voids are lame.

[@BrendaGarcia-i4z]

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[@carsacs2572]

i wiped my new pve build because i didnt know this

[@savagedeer7376]

What’s that deep spindle build?

[@Yeetmaster_1]

@@savagedeer7376 ironsing deepspindle I have a vid and the build is in the discord

[@Blaze-cp8vf]

I think it's fine this is a self claimed hardcore game anyways. They mostly did this change so people who gank depths gankers can actually beat them

[@Doom_6505]

It should be 65%, you should atleast be able to survive one assassination and can void

[@freyr399]

the depths gankers just sit at castle and wait for low lvls and pves now

[@kaboomshark3718]

Remember verse 1 depths ganking 😂

[@toast7250]

watched this to minute 3 and dont understand any of the yapping

[@Yeetmaster_1]

Here is a TLDR that you can understand: This is bad for the game for 4 main reasons. 1) Max pve builds can't beat max pvp builds 2) Assassin builds insta kill you 3) Depths gankers can just trackstar so there is no downside for them 4) A power 20 min max is way different than a power 20 base build.

[@Kurtizss]

Imagine the reason is because Yayafino hates chasing pve builds

[@pantommy]

You just hate cool stuff

[@littlehamham3281]

@@pantommy whats cool as someone who occasionally dabbles in depths fighting (not sayin ganks because i solo) ive basically never had a pvp build try to hop in l2 now i dont go after pve builds but i know its well common for them to just turn tail and run because they werent made for this

[@pantommy]

@@littlehamham3281context: yayafino, after hearing the initial pyrekeeper criticism - "you just hate cool stuff"

[@littlehamham3281]

@@pantommy yea im not in the dc oi wouldnt know

[@ilikechicken5524]

75% at lvl 20, 50% at 15

[@Yeetmaster_1]

yeah i said that

[@Zero_IC.]

>> Deepwoken is a difficult game with permanent character loss. Losing characters is a part of the game that should be expected.

[@Yeetmaster_1]

I'm not speaking from personal experience i have like 40 builds what is one lost?

[@Zero_IC.]

@@Yeetmaster_1 im just saying but before verse 2 jumping into the void literally didn't exist and there was still hellmodes yet people find ways to complain when it's still easier! also have you considered to think in the slightest bit that maybe since pvpers cant void as easily some of the depths ganking might slow down?

[@lotty201]

@@Zero_IC.even if it slows down there’s still always gonna be a crazy amount of depths gankers who only go for pves and this change just made it even worse for pves

[@gatouchiha5914]

Difficult ≠ Unfair

[@Xerum-148]

Yeah, but getting ganked by like 3 to 4 people is unfair, especially when your build isn't meant for it and they have a support or trackstar behind them, meaning they gank you, either they win or get away unharmed, just to go back and finish you off.

[@Joshpookie]

Deepwoken is a difficult game with permanent character loss. Losing characters is a part of the game that should be expected. You getting a get out of jail free card isnt fair.

[@Yeetmaster_1]

I'm not speaking from personal experience. I have like 40 builds what is one lost?

[@ConfirmedZer0]

neither is getting 100-0'd by an assassination build in 10 seconds lmao

[@Joshpookie]

@@ConfirmedZer0 then u fight back? turn around? why r u trusting randos in the depths

[@ConfirmedZer0]

@@Joshpookie u can still assassinate while you're in combat, all it takes is less than 1 second for some guy running that build to get behind u and pretty much deal free damage and there's virtually no counterplay i thought i was playing deepwoken, not rogue lineage 2.0. even if there is a counterplay to assassin builds that shit should not exist in a permadeath game, especially one like deepwoken that prides itself on being "skill vs skill" (which btw is a complete joke nowadays) keep 100-0 cheese shit to rogue, simple as that

[@Lucky_OctoNugget]

​@@Joshpookie Tf you mean trusting, ur acting like you can't just get randomly jumped by a nemesis Kysrcleave or a jetstriker Thundercall out of nowhere let alone trial or castle of light

[@DefinedColors]

Last I check we're playing the same game, deal with it. Anyone who only ganks pve builds are trash anyway.

[@Yeetmaster_1]

Skill doesn't matter to assassination builds

[@aredisoul9642]

Horrible argument bro

[@Yeetmaster_1]

Please point the the part of the video that is terrible. Provide two to three text based examples and I will consider your comment for review. 😊

[@loccoc_magnotta]

As a depths ganker i love this update due to everyone abusing void jump

[@ashdinstructor4756]

Deepwoken is a difficult game with permanent character loss. Losing characters is a part of the game that should be expected.

[@Yeetmaster_1]

I'm not speaking from personal experience i have like 40 builds what is one lost?

[@thecomet8759]

Difficult ≠ Unbearable

[@gatouchiha5914]

Difficult ≠ Unfair

[@Lucky_OctoNugget]

its not balanced at all?? ive literally met a guy in the depths who does 10% hp per m1

[@Doom_6505]

@@Lucky_OctoNuggetI have seen people do like 20%💀

[@Uncreat1ve]

When i depths gank, i usually like to try and make it fair by either: unequipping hp kit, not using some mantras, or never running to give players a chance incase they arent minmaxed yet!

[@nikosmadamas3234]

it doesnt matter if its fair wiping someones pve build wastes so much of their time and effort given how they had to spent idols and stuff to get cor payback + the expensive deepdelver armor + any relics they might have had

[@Uncreat1ve]

@@nikosmadamas3234 i dont use any of those at all while progging so cant relate, and i dont minmax in general tbh, plus pve builds can be remade in like a day MAX

[@littlehamham3281]

@@Uncreat1ve the hp kits they have will take a lot longer than a day thats fs and either way depths ganking is a part of the game i just personally dont go after ppl who look under power 18 or look like pve builds (enforcers axe, or evanspear)

[@Uncreat1ve]

@@littlehamham3281 me neither, never said i did, i think ive only wiped one pve and thats cause they were with their pvp friend (or atleast looked pvp since they had like a shattered katana)

[@Penstyy]

you might be angry and shit but in verse 1 there was no voiding so be grateful

[@EPaoNao]

That's the whole point bro, they made the voiding possible to give pve a chance, and now they are basically removing it lol

[@nikosmadamas3234]

making a pve build was simpler back then now if your pve wipes you gotta passdown 30 billion items which cost alot of echoes + get another godroll corrupted payback

[@Penstyy]

@@nikosmadamas3234 have you even played verse 1? first off passing down DIDNT exist so if you wiped with smth its gone forever and you literally need to get to power 60 which took a shit long amount of time

[@minecraftpro95624]

Deepwoken is a difficult game with permanent character loss. Losing characters is a part of the game that should be expected.

[@Yeetmaster_1]

I'm not speaking from personal experience. I have like 40 builds what is one lost?

[@CMIGP]

have you ever thought that MAYBE having a permanent character loss in a game where you can die in 10 seconds isnt a very good idea in terms of game design??

[@s0urce_matrix589]

casually brushing over that fact that your build purposely ignores a main aspect of the game just to cry about being punished for choosing said downside. Actually insane.

[@Yeetmaster_1]

what does this even mean?

[@savageo6495]

​@@Yeetmaster_1he thinks flowery language will make his bad point good

[@dublox8453]

​​@@Yeetmaster_1he said that pve builds ignore the main purpose of the game which is pvp. Imo the game is not meant to be fully pvp then why is there a diluvian and lots of more stuff for pve builds to do? Just revert the change. Even if you get ganked a pvp build but you're against 2 or 3 people you get no chances of survival

[@andro.txt0]

its a pvp and pve game, theyre both not meant to overlap 🤷‍♂️ this is ragebait anyway so this is gojna be the attention ur gonna get

[@picesto7686]

Wdym this is not roguelineage which is a pvp focused but has pve aspect dw is pve focused but has pvp aspect

[@Unknowns160]

It’s deepwoken, what’s the point of having a wiping system if everybody can have a safe way out by just jumping the void. The game is meant to be difficult but made it way too easy so that more people would play(I’m assuming). But I agree with the assassination build, it’s broken but it is what it is.

[@Lucky_OctoNugget]

The problem isn't really the health increase as much as it is the fact that minmaxxed pvp build are Hella broken and while only get better as time goes on, a properly built nemesis kysrcleave does 15% damage to a 500 hp pvp let alone the poor pve

[@steveybog3542]

>> Deepwoken is a difficult game with permanent character loss. Losing characters is a part of the game that should be expected.

[@Yeetmaster_1]

I'm not speaking from personal experience. I have like 40 builds what is one lost?

[@eras5328]

yeah having a free out of jail card is good for a difficult game with permanent character loss,you know what lets just remove wiping in general since pve player need to be handheld 24/7

[@nikosmadamas3234]

average pve depths ganker rage baiting

[@BULLET8D]

Its handholding if you're getting 4 tapped by a jetstriker assassination build or a sh railblade build that does a bar per m1??😭😭

[@Maestro_Box]

Cry more dude

[@Yeetmaster_1]

I do depths ganking (To wipe builds I've made vids on) and I still think this change is a bad idea

[@blackgxroblox8172]

>> Deepwoken is a difficult game with permanent character loss. Losing characters is a part of the game that should be expected.

[@yeetmaster7910]

Yeah man this is probably the worst thing for deepwoken in months