I can't do this job search anymore

[@twyiatv]

Me either. I said yesterday that I’m not applying for anything else. If I don’t get it from what’s out there now, it’s not for me. America is a nightmare.

[@deadcell1]

Damn girl you are fine.. You can start a OF and make more money than a job

[@lovelydiva06]

Yeah this place has become a real sh*thole and it’s intentional to try and keep up this facade of the job market being great when it’s absolutely isn’t and to force people to keep jobs they don’t want even if your treated like crap or aren’t paid well and to make their current employees work harder at the fear of being fired even though their not being treated well or paid well and to me it’s rather sinister, to play games with people’s lives like this, when people just tryna survive

[@insertmyidentityhere]

@@linonatorless humiliating than a traditional job, don’t judge… 😂

[@LaborGains]

I don't blame you. You're right. This job market is a nightmare. Thank you for the comment.

[@The_peaceful_one]

Not just America the uk is getting really bad too

[@elliottlewis65]

I've lost all hope

[@LaborGains]

I don't blame you. Good luck out there.

[@Ten2More]

Be ready to explain specifically why hiring YOU (not someone with an equal resume) will make them more money or help their business in a measurable way. More than being a nice and qualified person. Don’t ask for a job as a gift, ask them to pay for what you specifically can provide to benefit their bottom line. Think like the hiring person or boss - what do they want to see?

[@Kingnaster74]

Let's create our own businesses and hire each other!

[@winniecash1654]

Any ideas?

[@Kingnaster74]

@winniecash1654 I've floated a few ideas. A freelance journalism website, business plan consulting firm, a cookie shop just down the street from my house.

[@gmu3134]

that is what I did before landing any job!

[@lovelydiva06]

Yeah cause it’s that simple isn’t it

[@danielarnott1355]

I've noticed that I took this for granted. When I started my current job 23 years ago I stopped upgrading myself and just worked hard and did my job really well. My years of experience only means something where I'm at now. Anywhere else it means very little. I'm 52 and in good physical condition but I'm competing against engineers and technicians and generally people more qualified than me. So I feel stuck in the factory. Good luck with your search.

[@designhub360customapparel]

What do you do?

[@designhub360customapparel]

What do you do? I am 50 as well, but I am a woman. I will be starting my job search maybe in another month or two.,

[@DayrusBPB]

Same thing with dating apps, alot are facing this problem. all by design, it's not a bug, but a feature.

[@nameless7815]

Facts , ELO score / algorithm

[@DayrusBPB]

@@nameless7815 and social credit score? SEESEEPEE!

[@LaborGains]

Good analogy. You're right. Thank you for the comment.

[@ChristinaFrieburg]

Im starting to report these “recruiting” and “consulting” cos and apps to state regulators- AI is becoming a nightmare too

[@shanesprecher8290]

I admire your determination, however, businesses bought out the government long ago. I would seriously consider boycotting businesses, force a referendum on creating a third party, vote socialist or populist just to scare businesses into thinking there may be wealth distribution etc… The ultimate way to get back is to start forming communities similar to the Amish/Mennonites where you become minimally reliant on the “system”. I’m not saying you should become Amish/Mennonite but study how they operate as a community. You would be surprised how they can support themselves, working within their own community or selling to our communities. Either way, they know how to survive without relying on “Indeed” for employment.

[@ChristinaFrieburg]

@ good thoughts Glad I live in a tiny rural area and was taught how to live

[@NatS8445]

​@@shanesprecher8290This is awesome advice. Its unfortunate that even if I put in the work to get my own home and grow my own food, and buy as little as possible, it may be hard to get the country to that place as a whole where people can be less reliant on the "system". Consider how many rental units are being built and rented out in the US and how many people can even afford to make themselves self reliant in a meaningful amount of time without a good job. This is tough

[@Yasmine91646]

@@shanesprecher8290Exactly! The government is working with these corporations! In fact, government is just another corporation!

[@Yasmine91646]

@@shanesprecher8290Exactly! These mega corporations have ties with the government. The government is a corporation!

[@OGLizardKing]

20yr loan officer here. $190k total over 2021/2022. Laid off 11/5/22. So it was 2 years, just the other day. Ive been Uber'in since I ran out of cashola which was about a year ago. I feel ya. I just cant anymore. Too depressing. Same experiences here as well.

[@winniecash1654]

Me also. Covid did my business in, and I haven't recovered. Went from 6 figures to $18 an hour. At least I raised my kids, and they're all adults now. I don't need the large income, and I am grateful I have the job I do.

[@LaborGains]

Sorry to hear you have been going through that. Congrats on being resilient and finding a way to bring in an income after the layoff. Good luck out there.

[@uxerpusher]

How do you run out of cash making nearly 200K a year?

[@hashh2019]

@@winniecash1654but 18$ an hour cant help survive a month with all expenses. you may not have car payments or live in a dirt cheap apartment?. im trying to figure out how to downgrade to live on that kind of pay.

[@emmaleajackson5037]

Everything you said is on point. It’s stressful. These companies want you to take on more for SO much less. It’s insane.

[@brianhensien]

I hear ya and I’m right there, too. I’ve been laid off 3 times within the past 5 years with almost 2 decades worth of experience in my field. Applying to jobs is more than a full time job.

[@deadcell1]

Perhaps, maybe you should try a change of career. Perhaps in a field that's a staple in the American economy such as trucking or farming.

[@brianhensien]

@ agreed! Or Cybersecurity..

[@deadcell1]

@@brianhensien I do agree but I believe there is going to come a time where only the wealthy will be the only ones that will be able to afford any kind of security. If we ever go through hyper inflation only the fields that are absolutely essential to the economy will survive.

[@lang6626]

@@brianhensienI’m in cybersecurity and it sucks big time

[@brianhensien]

@@lang6626 what don’t you like about it any why does it suck?

[@Eyvls]

December marks a full year of being unemployed, and this job market has been incredibly challenging. I've had a few close calls, making it to the final rounds in several interviews, only to lose out to candidates making career jumps. Thankfully, I have a small side hustle that helps, though it doesn’t cover everything. Here’s hoping 2025 brings positive changes for all of us!

[@BurntOUTBunny-5y0]

My husband has been thru the same. It's now been 13 months since his layoff

[@Insideoutcest]

2025 will be when the real pain manifests

[@billjames3030]

​@@Insideoutcest After new president takes off the economy will crash 3-6 months later.

[@lovelydiva06]

Don’t bet on it with that orange guy coming to office

[@LaborGains]

Sorry to hear you have gone through that. Thank you for sharing. Having a side hustle is great because it will eventually grow and then maybe it can one day become the full time job. 2025 is going to be our year!

[@KennTollens]

I have a computer science degree and applied for jobs so long that I had to get a $16/hr job working in a factory. Been applying for over a year to get a $20+/hr job, and no dice. Hard times.

[@Jason-ot6jv]

This makes me terrified to lose my job

[@AlbatrossWhisper]

Go into supply chain management. Its what i did and its basically recession proof

[@KennTollens]

@@AlbatrossWhisper Thanks for the tip. I'll look into it.

[@minimalist_monk]

A year after covid they were hiring everywhere. People were sitting at home collecting free money talking about “quiet quitting” I don’t want to hear it. 😂

[@KennTollens]

@@minimalist_monk according to the rich, people were taking that $800 stimulus and living years off it and buying Lambos.

[@Mephistopheles99]

Tech industry is a bubble...too many cs degree holders graduating while Ai is pacman

[@sjmom5119]

that is a good analogy, but I do not think there are so many CS degrees the market is flooded.

[@Yasmine91646]

And companies outsourcing our tech jobs to your country India

[@HelloThere-xs8ss]

Or you are just bad?

[@arcsaber1127]

@@HelloThere-xs8ss 90% of the applicant pool is "bad" then

[@gt4361]

Bachelor is a scam apply with certs like cissp!

[@twalatka]

You are scaring me. I was let go 1 month ago. 30 yrs experience as a Financial Accountant. I am alone and my dog refuses to even look for a job. 😢

[@stephey808]

Become self employed immediately while seeking, and get gigs with smaller companies cuz they need accountants but not full time just to help with payroll and other accounting functions

[@The_peaceful_one]

The job market in Financial does not look good right now I think you are going to struggle not sugar coating anything

[@designhub360customapparel]

Your dog?

[@twalatka]

@@designhub360customapparel trying to find some humor in my situation. Fighting depression.

[@hashh2019]

you must have saved from 30yrs and accountants get paid well too. 1 month is nothing and with your experience and the kind of occupation you are going to find something relatively soon. if you are good at what you do then in 4-6 months u should find something

[@MagentaOtterTravels]

Take December off! Definitely the most challenging time of year to conduct a job search anyway. Turn the page and start afresh in January 🙌

[@djrickyb]

I agree. Late November into December is the worst time to get hired any where. All the companies hiring for seasonal have hired all their employees by November 10th. The same goes for temp agencies. At this point every company is also going to wait to hire people so their first pay check is in the following year for tax purposes too. January is a fair month since it's beginning of the year, but often hiring doesn't really pick up again until April/May for the summer. February/March is often a lousy time to get hired.

[@shaunpearce6846]

Weird hearing about these hiring practices. It seems like HR is making busy work. It's like meeting people who are so busy trying to appear smart, rather than actully being productive.

[@LaborGains]

Good plan!

[@Knightcraft42]

​@@LaborGains you gotta go blue collar homie

[@Knightcraft42]

The problem is people aren't applying for jobs where they are need. We are in a recession. You can't get fired from IT and think you are going to if another job in IT. That's stupid. In this environment you gotta go into an entirely new career field. You gotta apply for jobs the job markets is dictating, not what you think the job market should be. For instance, you know under Trump administration they will hiring for deportations, oil rigging, electricians, construction, welding, and etc. Sorry the age of white collar jobs are over. They are being replaced by AI and automation. If you need a job really badly join the military or merchant marines,

[@tippytoe1250]

My husband is self employed. Business slowed down to barely a crawl. We have savings but shit keeps coming up. I then went out and got a job in 2022 to help relieved some of my husband stress. Then I got laid off. Took another 7 months to find another job. I took the first one that gave me an offer. Luckily it turned out to be a good company and the pay isn’t too bad. If we’re careful we can get by without dipping into our reserves. Thank goodness my husbands business is starting to pick up again.

[@deadcell1]

You are a good woman and I assume you are from a older generation from which women believed in actually working together with their husband's instead of leaving them when things got rough.

[@yurbamate3969]

The army is hiring, they're so desperate that your odds of joining are good.

[@x88868]

They can hire all the illegals

[@picklerix6162]

Nobody wants to sit in a trench with Klinger.

[@yurbamate3969]

@@picklerix6162 there are many jobs like cook or mechanic.

[@wildvisuals4415]

My friend just joined

[@yurbamate3969]

@@wildvisuals4415 what job does he have?

[@SoCal9705]

I'm right there with you. Been looking for 8 months plus 4 months last year. I have experienced every single thing you said, including the scams (which sometimes arrive via whatsapp). And i DO every workday application. To make it worse I am over 60, which makes it 10x harder plus I have to pay my own health ins, which is like $900/mo and of course nobody gaf. Fortunately I should be fine even if I just retire, but that was not the plan. Just today was thinking I can't do this bs anymore and will wait until next year. Add to that recriminating myself for not having done better career planning. Self-esteem is in the s---house. You are not alone!!

[@ahappilydrunkpuppy8961]

There has to be cheaper health insurance.

[@SoCal9705]

@@ahappilydrunkpuppy8961 What people don't realize is if you are over 60 and make too much to be subsidized by others you are looking at about $900-$1000/mo for basic health insurance that doesn't pay hardly anything until you've hit the $6k deductible. If you get sick, you pay.

[@LaborGains]

Sorry to hear you are going through that. Thank you for sharing. Health insurance is so expensive and it doesn't even cover what it should for the costs. This job market is awful. Good luck out there!

[@sarahkorthas4690]

I’m sorry that you’re having a difficult time trying to find your next role. I’m in the same boat, and I come from the HR leadership world so I’ve been on the hiring side of the coin for many years. I’ve never seen anything like this job market. I’ve been fortunate and have had some interviews, and went all the way through all their hoops, games and interviews (several rounds)- only to be given assignments to do work for the company without pay. And one company had last minute budget cuts and paused the position until at least the end of the year and most likely longer. I’m also having a hard time finding part-time work because I’m “overqualified “. Hang in there, I wish you the best! Thank you for your video.

[@BurntOUTBunny-5y0]

My husband has been experiencing this for over a year as well. He got laid off in Oct 2023. He's applied to so many jobs - hundreds, if not closer to 1000 at this point. He has also gotten dozens of interviews and been brought back for some 2nd and 3rd interviews, yet just keeps getting rejected and basically ghosted by all of them. He is also overqualified and can't even get a position at a convenient store or as a dish washer, despite trying for those kind of jobs too. Recently he's been giving up. I don't think he's applied for anything for over 3 weeks now. I don't blame him. A human can only take so much rejection for so long before it makes them start to have a full mental breakdown.

[@terrell2269]

How do you all both get your bills pay I know it’s very hard to stay afloat without income coming in? I’m 18 years old getting ready to be on my own and secured employment with Landfill worker.

[@ishayaakov]

​@terrell2269 good luck will trying to be on you're own its a jungle out here and the cost of rent alone you need two or Moore incomes you can't pay it by you're self unless you're renting a room for 700 or 800 bucks

[@lovelydiva06]

Expecting someone to work for free is one of the most sinister things someone can do to someone in this day in age with how expensive life has become and how hard it is to survive out here with more than one job and they expect someone to work for free?! I swear it’s infuriating how they play on our faces smh

[@LaborGains]

Thank you for sharing your professional experience. Thanks for the support. Good luck out there!

[@TechXSoftware]

Gotta be applying at the companies official sites, not the jobs platform, only use the Jobs Platform as a discovery for the jobs. Don't waste your time on Cover Letters unless it asks for it. Reduce resume to be as simple as possible, and only have what you need for the role types your applying for. Don't worry about years of experience stuff, if you think you can do the job, apply anyway. Also, entry level jobs are harder to get into, than the mid, and senior level ones, due to saturation, so apply for higher levels too. Personal preference, but I stopped bothering applying at companies that don't don't show the salary, coz you say the number, they just drop you, coz you don't know the magic number to tell them to get to the interview stage. Don't bother with the recruitment agencies, they just waste your time. Thank you for listening to my TED talk.

[@LaborGains]

I agree, but a lot of times the jobs are gate kept by third parties and you don't know the name of the company until the recruiter reaches out to you. Thanks for the comment. I appreciate the insight.

[@josiah172]

After months of searching, I finally got a call from a tire warehouse. The most mundane and depressing work I have ever done but I’m at least making 18 now… Better than the mechanic work I have done. Breaking your back for literal scraps.

[@BuySmartChannel2700]

At least it's something.. most importantly invest in yourself.

[@josiah172]

@@VoidData I’m a mechanic. I’m in the labor force lol did someone delete a comment or something?

[@JohnDoe-ml8ru]

I've been a mechanic. Made $12 an hour and that was 3 years ago. It was OK in the early 00's, but it's a hell-hole of an occupation now.

[@josiah172]

@ it really is… I’m desperately trying to change career paths and I’m not having any luck at all.

[@yanasosnovskaya864]

I found part-time 3 month contract position. also happy to land at least smtg. It's crazy world out there.

[@WongWho]

Before u relocate to another state for a job, make sure you have a lot of savings in the bank. Moving is not cheap and very time consming. Far too often people will move into a new state, only to have their job offer rescinded or get laid off after a couple months. Now, they're stuck in a rut & have no way of going back home.

[@DrunkenUFOPilot]

Yup. Been through that more than once. One job was in Oregon, applied to while living in Escondido California. It would have all worked out fine, except during the hiring process a bigger company out east bought the small company in Portland. Change of management already my first day, and change of project direction in the few following months. The Portland office closed about a year or so later. Everyone there had moved on to other, better jobs.

[@LaborGains]

Thank you for the advice. Very wise points.

[@slkchao]

Hang in there buddy! We’ve all been there at some point and went through the rough cycles. Praying for a good outcome for you🙏

[@LaborGains]

Thank you so much!!!

[@Comicjennymadrigal]

I can’t even get a call back! Agism is a real thing and I’m feeling it!

[@elenarda-i2x]

Boomers benefit from ageism. Zoomers are discriminated against. "You need 10+ years of experience to apply for this role." (Zoomer is 22.)

[@elenarda-i2x]

@@VoidData The premise does not yield the conclusion.

[@minimalist_monk]

Should have been working the last 4 yrs. Everybody was chilling sitting around not saving money. No sympathy.

[@Comicjennymadrigal]

@@minimalist_monknot really expecting sympathy from someone named minimalist monk… sounds like you don’t have none and aren’t getting none 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

[@minimalist_monk]

@ This comment makes no sense. But sure whatever you say. 🤣

[@tlo0542]

I completely understand. Been 1 year and 8 months for me looking for work. It's been a brutal market

[@doginmylense]

In Toronto React Developers which prior to 2020 were making 110K-155K are now being hired at 60K-70K because of such an influx of engineers into the market.

[@954crystal]

I think it’s due to layoffs. If you know how to do react maybe try teaching people then you can make money

[@johndillinger1918]

Mostly immigrants

[@CC-br9qg]

2022 business grad, never found an entry level job with my degree. i did everything right - internships, high GPA, worked straight through college, avoided loans. this is the reward we get for following what's "right" and the rug was ripped out from under us. have never been able to afford moving out of my dad's house. social life has been really damaged by the unemployment issues too.

[@dominant7466]

Life is tough, but don't give up :D

[@zelloguy]

damn you did internships and still can't get anything? I'm beating myself up because I didn't do any internships at all. Got an econ degree and can't even get hired as a bank teller.

[@deadcell1]

You gotta get your foot in the door first, why not just start as the janitor and work your way up? The pay will suck but you're not there for the income, you're there for the contacts.

[@NatS8445]

What type of degree more specifically? Im doing a similar path

[@CC-br9qg]

@@deadcell1 it doesn’t work like that anymore

[@maverickcapitalist1]

Quick recommendation, look at jobs for the state or federal government. This is where a lot of the actual opportunities exist currently for most younger guys.

[@lak1294]

Bro, I feel for you. It's so tough out there. When the conditions are bad, it's not you, it's the conditions. It ain't personal because so many others are experiencing the same. Until times improve, find ways to get by like developing your YT channel, temping, odd jobs, etc. It's like back in Great Depression, when people had to do anything they could to get by. Sad. 😞 The employment problem might start looking worse in 2025 and hopefully get more recognition. Right now, mainstream economists and media are oblivious and saying the job situation is solid. They're WWAAYY behind the curve! 🙄

[@kumada84]

They aren't behind the curve, they're intentionally lying.

[@LaborGains]

Thank you for the support. That is good advice.

[@kennethc.2921]

Go into Healthcare like occupational therapy, speech pathologist, nursing, or Health informatics(I.T for health field). Another route is joining a union trade such as HVAC, plumbing, electrician.

[@DrunkenUFOPilot]

I wouldn't mind being an electrician. I like airplanes and boats. I imagine there's good work in the overlap. Probably all over the country - no "Silicon Valley" sort of thing. No hordes of young people in eastern Europe or India working remote to compete with. Just need official training, maybe some sort of certificate or license, and land a job.

[@johnmathieson6233]

Healthcare equals job security…. Worked at a hospital 25 years

[@curiouspenguin6887]

Yeah, but it takes time and $$$ to get credentials in healthcare fields. You need to eat while going to school and taking on student loans.

[@ppss.6302]

It is too late for older folks to embark on 5 years + indentured servitude route to get proper credentials in trades

[@sixteen.candles.4644]

​@@curiouspenguin6887 yup I'm going into nursing now

[@eXtremeFX2010]

It is tremendously hard right now. Not even back channeling is working ... its just NOT. This is the "GREAT NOT HIRING" period.

[@LaborGains]

Thank you for the comment. It is very hard right now.

[@Hobo_productions]

Ive been searching for years. Still nothing. But my boyfriend applied to a hundres jobs, got about twenty interviews, and 2 places accepted him. Its been brutal.

[@samus33529]

During the pandemic, tech was where everyone wanted to be. There was an abundance of jobs, the jobs pay very well, and they were all remote at the time. So the tech job market became flooded with new candidates. Some self taught, some boot camp grads and some traditional college degree grads. Because there were now so many candidates, companies changed the interview process and how they hire. There's a lot of AI prescreening that eliminates you before a human ever sees your resume. If you are fortunate enough to get an interview there's usually many rounds and coding assessments, and live coding at some point. The hope is that many people will get fed up and move on to other things.

[@LaborGains]

Great insights. Thank you for the comment.

[@DanielHeneghan-m9s]

It's getting scary out there.

[@LaborGains]

You're right.

[@YTDan]

I understand and feel your pain. The solution is to spend more time on building yourself. Start a project, this KZbin channel is a great start. I wrote a book and created AI, got back into yu-gi-oh and recalibrated my priorities. I matter, so I’ll spend my time building me, not a soulless, Bodiless corporation. It gets hard, but focus on you and don’t let this system squeeze you into madness. Good Luck!

[@SeaCrestInNOut]

... and then the money runs out.

[@YTDan]

@@SeaCrestInNOut but we not, given up!

[@BuySmartChannel2700]

@@YTDan it's all fine and dandy until you can't no longer pay for an Internet connection all because your wallet and bank runs dry . Building a KZbin channel and monetizing it takes time. Not that I'm against it.

[@LaborGains]

Great strategy. Thanks for sharing and the encouragement!

[@lambchomp1472]

It's 2008 all over again. Luckily, I knew how bad things can be and saved enough money to hold out.

[@hannahdargan6079]

Savings goes quicker in 2024 inflation. Be careful. Invest some of that.

[@metastract]

Few remember this job market recession. It also derailed my original career plans too. Went self-employed and into the digital industries instead of law. No regrets.

[@Cynthia-h5i]

I'm doing Doordarsh to have gas money etc. It's not enough to pay my bills but it keeps some cash in your pocket.

[@curiouspenguin6887]

Yep. You really have to expect this nowadays. Always treat each paycheck like it's your last.

[@quitscammingpeople9872]

You dont have bills? Rent? Most don’t have the luxury of saying no I don’t wanna search for a job anymore

[@rai4241]

Iast year I've experience the same thing as you -i've 18 years experience in technology 2 undergrade and countless certs...I literally applied for almost 6 months religiously and the same results as you did. Until I gave up and decided to study the market and learn how to daytrade -year later -here i am full time profitable trader working 1-2 hours day and spending more time with my family you should give a shot, isn't easy by any means but discipline can take you long way -which is very clear to me you have

[@954crystal]

My dream right now is to cut hair 🙏🏾. I am diligently working towards this goal

[@LaborGains]

@@954crystal thanks for sharing! Good luck with that dream. You got this!

[@TheMrmodernmonkey]

that is a great path to take be the best and fast a good barber will always have work and is a realistic small business to start that will work if you are good.

[@chrisruiz6004]

In the 59 years of living, I have learned that company's or corporate business doesn't guarantee a job to anyone. They will pic and choose whom they want or restructure as they see fit for the goal of profit maximization. If they can make huge profits without human work force and get higher efficiency from automated sources, that's the key to higher profits.

[@LaborGains]

Thanks for sharing. Good to hear from someone older than me.

[@chrisruiz6004]

@LaborGains you're not alone finding it difficult to find employment. It's going to get worse, less employment, higher prices. This is what concerns me the most of all the issues today.

[@HughAnthonyEdward]

thats wild. I got a stem degree(very theoretical), no internships. still found a job. Life is just a dice roll

[@josecanas838]

Trust me I'm having issues with just getting a job for 40000

[@myoutuber77]

Now is the time to apply for driver positions at UPS, Fedex and such. They have seasonal roles now, hiring ASAP. If they like you, in January they might offer a perm opportunity.

[@TheFracturedfuture]

​@@myoutuber77Yeah they are going to make you go through the whole process just to discard you when the holidays are over.

[@myoutuber77]

@@TheFracturedfuture The pay with UPS is on the order of $23 per hour, which is better than your 40000 job. Besides, if you don't get a perm role in January, next time around holidays you would not need to "go through the whole process" again. You will not be successful at many things in life if you maintain a pessimistic attitude.

[@dpayne5399]

@@TheFracturedfutureyou called it , I just read on news earlier FedEx layed off lotta ppl before holidays

[@LaborGains]

Oh wow, thank you for sharing. Good luck out there.

[@gimcrack555]

AI is looking through the resumes. If you don't have the correct keywords, your resume goes into the trash. There also to many ghost jobs out there. Look for a job the old fashion way. Hoof it, and you'll get better results. Don't worry if they are hiring or not. Go in and see if there are any job openings. If not, grab an application return that to the HR with your resume and good-luck. Repeat until you get the results that you're looking for.

[@LaborGains]

Thanks for the tips!

[@zelloguy]

Graduated last year with an econ degree. Can't even get hired as a bank teller. This is tough.

[@dominant7466]

You're over qualified do something else

[@zelloguy]

@@dominant7466 like what?

[@andra9694]

@@zelloguyaccounting for a small size business

[@designhub360customapparel]

Needs to be master's degree

[@hashh2019]

fast food, food delivery, freelance on upwork, go door to door mom n pop shops. schools are hiring, police and fire departments too. dont be choosy or limit yourself- now is not the time for career choices, its time to survive and no one will judge you

[@QmdVJ4KrCjUk888]

I've given up applying for full jobs since June. That's a complete waste of time and energy. Many of my friend did it too. We all agree this is the worst time to get a job over the past 20 yrs.

[@ilovemytribe]

I always hear people on the news say that, but don't understand how y'all make $ to survive? ( Food,gas, rent, car payment, car insurance, phone etc)

[@QmdVJ4KrCjUk888]

​@@ilovemytribe It depends. In my case, i decided to move to another place where my living expense would be lower. Then i started my side hustle and do some freelancer works. You get to try bro, understanding that the return on working a day job is decreasing every single year, cos employers see this as the best moment to screw their staff.

[@ilovemytribe]

@@QmdVJ4KrCjUk888 Okay thanks for the reply. I probably need to do something similar. I have two degrees but can't get anything but Warehouse work. Tired of it...

[@QmdVJ4KrCjUk888]

@@ilovemytribe Degrees don't matter at all right now. What really matters is supply and demand. There are tons of ppl flooding into the job market willing to accept anything just for a normal BS job. You really have to do something unconventional, but it takes courage. Good luck bro!

[@Cynthia-h5i]

2008-2009 were the worst yrs for job seekers. At least there are some retail jobs still available.

[@LP-bt4jk]

Apply at Walmart my dude they need people

[@FloridaInvestor]

Same here. I have applied close to 3k jobs. Basically, I got 1 interview.

[@designhub360customapparel]

😮

[@attory6225]

These days it's not enough to just fill out the application. There are too many people. To stand out It takes networking and nontraditional approaches like contacting the company, and information interviewing with the person who has the power to hire you.

[@A_Well_Traveled_Man]

🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@A_Well_Traveled_Man]

First person on here, that's not complaining that actually understands what's going on. You got to find ways to stand out the upping either half transportation, 2 year jobs, great internships or have a network that's behind you, you have to have something that makes you stand out in this world, it's like buying a car. On a dealership lot, there's just thousands and thousands of cars for someone to choose from...

[@lodersracing]

I hear you. I've been self employed for nearly 12 years now. And never applied for a job for over 20 years.

[@designhub360customapparel]

What were you doing the other eight years?

[@lodersracing]

@designhub360customapparel Working and then a period out of work to self reflect. I needed to go backwards and have a clear mind with no distractions to go forwards.

[@Thedude2.047]

I just got out of my 3rd interview today i think it went well but these ppl make u jump through hoops in order to get a basic assembly job its crazy i dont understand?

[@robertdahammer4850]

I've humbled myself from 100K to 50K. I was also in Tech. There comes a time when the money starts to run out and you need get whatever scrap is on the table. Work your way up again or wait until the market gets better.

[@marykutschke5158]

In the 90’s this happened to me. I finally had to abandon my profession. I was young and broke. I took a way different job. Not related to my training nor education. It was okay and fun. But, eventually the market turned. I have never been able to recoup those lost years. But, I am okay. It is life.

[@LaborGains]

Life works out that way some times. I appreciate you sharing your story with me. Thank you for the comment.

[@patrick_nilan]

After graduating with a computer engineering degree and an MBA I've applied to over 400 jobs. I'm so discouraged at this point :(

[@dominant7466]

Try manager jobs maybe good for you

[@patrick_nilan]

@ I’ve tried some. I feel like as a new grad from the spring of 24 they feel I don’t have that type of experience

[@deadcell1]

Well, you're going to have a start alot lower than you anticipated.. The CEO of Walmart started as a overnight stocker. Perhaps, maybe you can start as a janitor and work your way up. the pay is going to sucks but this opens the door for you to make contacts and demonstrate your abilities so you can move up.

[@Zalahblue]

Get your CDL? lots of companies will pay for your training if you sign a work contract. I'm just not sure if winter is the best time to train.

[@DrunkenUFOPilot]

Famous filmmaker James Cameron (Titanic, Avatar, etc) raised money to put himself in film school by driving a truck. If he can do it, anyone can do it! Of course he was a nobody before film school. I doubt he'd get far today applying for a truck driver job.

[@VoidData]

@DrunkenUFOPilot literally every comment you've left is condescending towards blue collar people.

[@LaborGains]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@bonita2420]

I applied and applies aswell.. I was a manager at a dog training/kennel facility. Though I was management companies see it as a "speciality job". I gave up ad accepted a overnight stocking job. It took me 4 months to get a darn retail job breaking my back. I continue applying while working here which has been about 6 months. Its been a year all together and nothing. Its the most frustrating feeling to go down almost $6 dollars a hour in pay and not only that we are so disrespected. It's hard out there everyone😢

[@LAQueja]

Post office, tsa, ups, fedex apply there for holiday work.

[@paulweaver5255]

I second this. Even a shit job as long as it’s hard work and pays something feels better than no job at all.

[@shockthetoast]

I worked for about a dozen years at my old company (I left to pursue other ventures a couple times and returned). Unfortunately I worked on older and proprietary systems, and didn't learn most of the libraries and stacks that are used these days. So I also don't meet the minimum requirements for most jobs. I don't mind taking a pay cut (it would all be better than the delivery driving I did for over a year) but it's hard to even find entry level tech jobs of any sort. It's no longer the good old days of being able to make up for a lack of qualifications by being a hard worker and a good culture fit. When guys with multiple degrees, masters, and all these certifications can't land anything, I feel like there's very little hope for someone like me.

[@LaborGains]

Sorry to hear you have been going through this. Thank you for sharing. It's tough to find work when you don't have the exact experience that companies are looking for (since they don't train anymore). Also they would much rather outsource work to pay less than minimum wage and not provide benefits. Good luck out there!

[@micpowers1136]

Theres alot of scam jobs out here

[@ishayaakov]

Dont feel bad im going through it to ive been turned down even by petty suppermarkets smh wholefoods smh its a mess out here i have a interview today at bloomindales im hoping some luck will come out of it even if its a seasonal position for the holidays

[@CommonSenseRob]

If you can afford to wait until next year why not take a low wage job in the meantime. Some money coming in is better than nothing.

[@LaborGains]

That's true. Thank you for the comment.

[@redlotuslove1]

Same here. Youre not alone.

[@LaborGains]

Thanks for the confirmation. Good luck out there!

[@Ten2More]

Apply in person and NOT online. Employers reward effort and an email doesn’t show effort. The effort they would want in an ideal employee. Make yourself stand out with social skills. In 2024, you stand out not applying online. If the company hires you online like a number you will be expendable like a number. Your choice to work in a place like that. I wouldn’t even look at a resume sent by email. If they called to ask about discussing work in my field, I would make extra time at the end of the day and hire if it worked. Social skills set you apart - one way or the other. If YOU want the job, YOU need to make the extra effort. Don’t expect this to be fair.

[@stilljocelyn_]

I’m an HR/ Talent Acquisition professional and I feel the same. As someone in HR I know allllll the things that could happen on the other side of the job search. I think I may take a break until the beginning of 2025. Also can we talk about alllll the required assessments when submitting your application. Just submitting the app before even talking to anyone. 🥴🥴

[@ericinla65]

SOFTWARE ENGINEER JOBS are going the way of the Buffalo. Very few left. You need to switch to hands on I.T. support like I did 25 years ago. I knew this was coming, even back then. I'm making $170k and that's enough for me.

[@designhub360customapparel]

Wow

[@hashh2019]

lol that is a lot- as if u can make a million in normal times.

[@MegaMerlin2011]

I can't even get on the job boards because everything requires more qualifications than what I have. I have a BA in International Studies (different from International Relations) and experience teaching in China for 3 years (managing class, creating curriculum from scratch, etc). Before China, I did the usual Walmart, grocery store, and local pizza delivery for years. Every time I check job boards, they want someone with Sales exp, Management degree, 2 years industrial exp, etc. I can't even get a management role because they require actual "management" exp not managing a classroom. Usually for management roles you need x years in whatever industry. I went to a local job recruitment agency and told them I'd like an office job and ready to learn whatever is necessary. She never called me back for a job. What sucks about my situation is I understand the best solution for me would be to start my own small business. Great! I don't have money nor do I have any niche skills. I don't see anyone biting at the bit to travel China and learn about the history/culture.

[@LaborGains]

That's really interesting that you spent 3 years in China. What an experience that must have been. Sorry to hear about your struggles. That's one of the reasons I started this KZbin channel, you make money without having to spend money on the normal business startup expenses. Thank you for the comment.

[@Jddoes3D]

It's starting to sound more appealing to get a low paying job abroad working near the beach or the mountains, and go off for a walk in nature after you end your shift, than doing the same thing in America, where the only place that awaits you outdside is a depressing city.

[@kennethc.2921]

Since you have credentials in business, try High End Sales. Sales is always hiring, but the downsides are that it’s mostly commission base and they have you working close to 40 to 60hrs. Also, have you thought off leaving off your MBA off your Resume, when applying for lower positions. A lot of companies see a Masters and think you’re overqualified and don’t hire you.

[@erbiumfiber]

Yes, he would be very good at sales I think, low key and personable. Although maybe things like software sales are oversaturated now due to all the people laid off and wouldn't be suprised if some firms might scam you. Pretty sad.

[@LaborGains]

Thanks for the suggestions! I will definitely consider sales going forward. May be a good idea to leave off the MBA from the resume, don't want to worsen my chances.

[@pinay1999]

Try Nursing. Never had a problem finding a job, recession or not. Good luck.

[@hannahdargan6079]

Go get a skilled trade. I recommend hvac or audio visual.

[@stee.bee69]

Gotta take a major paycut even if it’s just temporary. During the last recession my dad took a nearly 50% just to stay employed and be able to continue to support the family.

[@delaney_defoe1985]

Bahaha puzzle games, mind games ~ All your favorites from childhood! ^^ You are a smart man, your efforts will pay off. You’re attracting greatness.

[@picklerix6162]

I’ve applied to jobs that called me back almost a year later which means that they didn’t really have an opening at the time, they were just collecting resumes. My buddy filled out a 30+ page application for the CIA and they contacted him two years later. In fact, they hounded him to come in for an interview but he was happy in his current position.

[@PetersGameChannel]

I’m a electrical engineer and I am constantly getting offers

[@anomalyv3718]

love the honesty

[@LaborGains]

Thank you.

[@ryanossevorth3705]

Very few places are hiring. The first place that I could actually get a resume for I took. It payed nothing - I am actually paying to work there ( pay doesn’t cover bills but it stoped the heavy cash drain from not working) but hang in there. Someone is hiring. Take what you can while you can. Very few are hiring and nobody is paying anything significant. Companies that are hiring are looking for desperate people. Take those jobs for now.

[@Pandora234able]

I’m sorry you’re in this tough spot. I don’t want to give you advice that you may already be using but there may be a few things you could do that will help you stand out? The first definitely helped me. 1. Attending conferences as a day trip. Sometimes you need people to see your face. I know it feels like nepotism but at least they’ll remember you better that way. 2. Message a person in the position you want and ask for their resume for educational purposes. They’ll be flattered and you can also make a video to show what all it takes to get that position (if they’re spooked, just asked for a de-identified copy). Even if it’s not so simple to attain those accolades yourself and for others, the transparency will be more attractive. 3. You may already do this one but stress your familiarity with social media managing. These aren’t groundbreaking but I’m hoping they’ll help once you get a breather.

[@alphaomega1351]

If you are around 40 years of age, you may have to consider a career change. I know, that would absolutely suck, but you can't remain unemployed indefinitely. I almost made that decision. I think I'm done with IT for good if things don't work out at where I'm at now. I'm just so tired of the shenanigans. 🤓

[@LaborGains]

You're right. It is certainly time to figure out how to switch industries. I don't blame you for being tired of it.

[@deltanyc1]

I here you brother. Same thing going on with me. Keep the faith.

[@LaborGains]

Thanks for sharing. Good luck to you too.

[@JohnDoe-ml8ru]

Hardware/software and helpdesk support technician. We're talking 20+ years experience. I was let go in June of 2024 and haven't been able to find a job since, at least nothing worth a damn. I did find a job at a computer repair sweat shop(I should have checked Glassdoor first) and I lasted 2 days and 1 hour. Other than that, nothing. Even when I was employed earlier this year, I was only making $45,000. And for what they were asking me to do, I should have been paid double that. I've applied to thousands of jobs in the past few months and only had 3 interviews. There are NO jobs right now! I'm currently trying to find a job as a security monitor to hopefully get a clearance but I've been waiting for that for 6 weeks now and told the company has frozen all hiring for the moment. You're far from the only one. The Biden administration has been lying for the last few years, there is NOTHING!

[@LaborGains]

Sorry to hear you have gone through that. Thank you for sharing. Good luck out there!

[@andyanaoutdoors2487]

Same exact results here. Its been a year. Ive never been without work ever in my life. Feeling terrible about myself and the time wasted into finding work. I dont know where to go or what to do from this time forward. Im at a loss.

[@The_peaceful_one]

We have a global insidious 2008 scenario about to unfold

[@sasukesuite1]

Can you get a security clearance? I more than doubled my salary by working in a cleared space as a contractor and people are desperate to hire anybody with a clearance or that is eligible to get one.

[@Kaywonlee]

Me too. I’m just starting to think to switch to blue collar jobs. They will need you wherever

[@maple913]

You have to move to India if you want a tech job

[@Jddoes3D]

It's bizarre. I moved to a developed country in S.America which is a big software exporter, and I see tech bros doing pretty well for themselves. Lots of Indians moving here too. All those tech companies in the US are moving, or have moved abroad or are only hiring overseas. Google is opening up a sweat sh... I mean a tech super warehouse here. Now, they're paying better salaries compared to the local economy, so in a way it's a good deal for the locals. Cost of renting is cheaper compared to America. If Americans wants to find a job in tech, maybe they should look abroad now.

[@DavidB.Rockin]

I'm fed up with applying for jobs on indeed and answering those most likely agree/disagree questions! Nowadays,I never answer those questions.

[@LaborGains]

I forgot about the agree/disagree. There is also the ones where you have to pick the words that describe you from a list. Thank you for the comment.

[@shelleD87]

I can relate to you. I was laid off a year ago and did get unemployment but you have to apply to something every week. Of the 2 responses I got in six months 1. was only paying $12/hr and 2. was filled before they responded to my interview availability. There is nothing in my area that I can use public transportation which I have done for 30 years.

[@A_Well_Traveled_Man]

Seems like you're stuck in the chicken and the egg situation.... I know it well😢... But in america, you definitely need a car.... What I would do? If I were you, I would look up some temp agencies near you like express employment or robert, half or aerotech ... Take some small jobs that you really don't like to save up money to get a car.Once you have a vehicle, your job search will open up immensely.

[@johnbarnes7706]

I don't think you understand where we are at in America right now. You are supposed to get a low paying job and live under a bridge if possible. The American dream.

[@deadcell1]

You'll save a crap load of money by living under a bridge because you're not paying half of your income in rent.

[@watamatafoyu]

Let's just all admit they don't want to hire us and don't care how anyone's lives are. They're digging their own graves.

[@PtolemyPetrie]

Keep the faith, whatever you do, don't give up! Things are probably going to turn around because Trump is going to "drill baby drill" for that "liquid Gold" I have an in person interview today so wish me luck!

[@FriedAudio]

This is true. But so much damage has been done to our nation in the last four years, that it's hard to comprehend.

[@LaborGains]

How did the interview go?

[@natalscar]

Very rough. I wish you the best of luck that 2025 is your year. God bless.

[@Conyay_fresh]

I went through the job purgatory for 9 months. You might have said in a past video. Would you move for a job? If so how much of a lifestyle cut or career switch would you take for a job in a new state?

[@LaborGains]

I just put out a video today on this topic. In 2010 I had to move to a different area in order to find work. I would be open to that after the holidays if that is what it takes.

[@Conyay_fresh]

@LaborGains Thanks for your response. I'll for sure check it out. I really appreciate the videos your situation is very relatable. Your career path is what I was hoping to gear towards but have been having trouble up skilling and moving up. I hope things can even out soon as it's difficult having a job where you're uncertain of advancement even with the additional schooling or certification.

[@TheJetsons-v2w]

I'm one of those junior engineers who can't get a job because I don't have enough experience. Just hanging on by the skin of my teeth. Family and friends helping out with life essentials while I do some yard/house work for them.

[@canyael]

Another issue I’m seeing is that the people who are doing the first screen are very unprofessional I bet their companies are losing good candidates because of them

[@Ace1000ks19751982]

Spending all that time looking for jobs that don't exist is not a good use of your time. You need to find something productive to do.

[@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel]

Retail apparel and home decor corporate, what i get paid now years later is less than what i was paud before and new job posts are less than before

[@JacOnMac]

Just enjoy the holidays because no employer is gonna onboard a six figure employee right before holiday shutdowns. If so it’s the kind of job where there aren’t holiday closures and are 365/24/7 and in that case with an offer I would even defer my start to January. However I’m in the same boat. Like I worked hard to upskill and want to be paid for that but I have also dummied down my resume to take whatever. Still nothing. Terrible job market! Buckle up I think it might actually get worse before it gets better. Happy New Year 😅

[@Tobiasdaniel78]

Did you apply to join the reverses while you are on your job search ?

[@josephhuston7590]

Welcome to the year 2000.

[@gustavolatobias2813]

You may need to humble yourself down further than that. Maybe you need to get 2 full time jobs that make $40,000 each. In these times, you gotta put pride aside and grind it out.

[@insertmyidentityhere]

Idiot lol

[@StevenDurski]

Don't give up 💪

[@Sheepy19801]

This job market is bad, but the statistician's graphs say uNempL0yment is 4% but the data is false, the bls report overstated jobs by 800k a few months ago. They are still off, ghost jobs, cut hours, temp workers, people who have stopped looking after underemployed/unemployed. It's 2008. I went from great jobs, to window washer, at home care with people with disabilities on 3rd shift. AND even those jobs started to cut people. It was the worst 2 years of my life. I feel like that will be the end of this job market at Dec 2025. My only advice is do what ever is needed to make it, while building a new side gig/gigs. Couch surf , give blood, collect cans, volunteer, but build the side gig.

[@DrunkenUFOPilot]

I saw 2% unemployment recently. But whatever... you are right, they're not counting long-term unemployed, underemployed, all that. For those who had been in software development, web design, enterprise IT, anything computer sciencey, it's 100% when you're the one unemployed!

[@LaborGains]

Sorry to hear you went through that. Thank you for sharing. You're right. This is an awful job market. Good luck out there.

[@Wabu1]

small business self employment side hustles (maybe 4 or more?) is the new steady 'job'

[@bache72]

Did it for 12 years. Thought it would never end. Competition became too much to overcome, what little I made at the end of it was insufficient. Sadly must sell my truck.