I Can’t Stop you from Buying Amazon’s New TV… but I’ll Try Anyway

[@BirdHouseProduction]

Don’t sleep on store mode! I bought one of the Fire TV models for a conference room at work. We set it up that way and it’s great. None of the apps to bother you. You just plug in a laptop and it immediately detects input. They should call it dumb TV mode - it’s great.

[@bifflowman2948]

Oh now that's good!

[@genericjosh96]

Can you still change settings and enable game mode on non detected inputs? I have been leaving android tvs without network connections for years now and just using hdmi, if I could get the discount because Amazon thinks they can steal my data they would be Amazing

[@malfaroangel3896]

@@genericjosh96what?

[@robertabugelis3962]

@@genericjosh96 I am sure that they have a back door. Just be data conscious.

[@TheOriginalFaxon]

@@malfaroangel3896 Amazon Fire TVs are subsidized by amazon stealing your data. They cost less because the data is worth more to Amazon than whatever money they could have actually charged you for the same TV, that's why they try to hide what actual model of TV it is, since they usually just take an off the shelf design and lightly modify it, put their own software on, and brand it as theirs. By not connecting the TV to a network you're in essence preventing them from extracting payment in the form of your data, getting a discount without any benefit to Amazon. I have absolutely no problem with this, your device should be your device for you to do what you want with, you shouldn't be forced to network it if you don't want to.

[@JoseQuirogaP]

"Do me a favor and buy it using the link in the description... and don't use honey"

[@revemb4653]

Thats why I use wiki buy instead

[@hamtaroyt]

For a good reason

[@ferrarim5p75]

@@JoseQuirogaP Ha ha... Don't but this TV... but I'm going to put a link in the description anyway.

[@Red-S-267]

@@ferrarim5p75well yeah. You shouldn’t buy it but I might as well put a link in so if you do I at least get a percentage. It makes sense honestly.

[@rekkisomo]

@@revemb4653 all "discount extensions" or any extensions that just searches for coupons are no different to honey. You're better off searching yourself.

[@nathantron]

That buffering WILL ALWAYS HAPPEN. It's not the wifi or ethernet. It's because the Fire OS only has like half a gig of RAM devoted to media, and most of it is already clogged up by all of the trailers and other background video that's still in the system. You have to download another app in order to force background shit out, and 4K/8K video, can sometimes not work at all depending on the encoding. It SUCKS.

[@wombat5252]

It's really annoying, Every brand now comes with advertising and bloatware on their TVs. Aggravating. Not to mention they all want and FORCE you to accept their terms and agreements so they can track you and whatever you do. I have the C2 OLED and for the first year i never needed to create a login and password for an account just to use the TV. Now I Do. Lol so intrusive.

[@TheBronxIceberg]

​​@@wombat5252 The best streambox is made by a company you either love or hate. It has NO ads on its user interface. Its called "Apple Tv".

[@Nyx-221]

@@nathantron what do you mean doenloadbanoghrt app you force background shit out? Can you explain that in more detail pls?

[@CF-ng8ft]

@@wombat5252 stop buying tvs and start buying monitors or projectors

[@OTVALSKY]

you should really just plug google thing into all these tv's and get overall ok experience.

[@broncodolphin]

Not usually one to comment, but I really liked and appreciated the reduction of jump cuts and experimentation with new editing styles! Love to see the improvements!

[@TheSuperJepphyKiller]

Same, it's pretty good!

[@Kris_00007]

They should accidentally leave more stuff in the lab.

[@Destroyer-4386]

I haven't finished the video yet, but I gotta say I love the drive to labs. Felt like me when I'm building something, and I gotta make a quick Home Depot run 😂

[@JosephM101]

Cue guitar lick 🙃

[@K-o-R]

I thought the labs were in the same industrial park.

[@reilandeubank]

@@K-o-R they are, just a bit of a walk away. Linus has talked before about possibly getting ebikes or scooters to go between the buildings

[@saul-s]

is it weird that they didn't blur the plates on his car and the car besides him when he parked ?

[@jkibble98]

*A* run? You're clearly a seasoned builder. For me it's usually 3-4 trips to pick up the stuff I forgot, especially "simple" plumbing

[@HOBOTw1tcH]

16:48 no…. The average family who just needs a watchable tv in the living room can get a massive Roku tv at Walmart for 200$ and be way better off.

[@WhoAmIWill]

Yeah anyone with any knowledge spending at this price point is gonna go Hisense U7 or U8 or go for the big brands like Samsung and LG

[@pprb123]

The crazy part in amazon fire tv pricing is the Omni line is $200 more than the 4 series and the only big difference is having Alexa. and both have voice control, just alexa

[@dino15309]

U7 is freaking amazing. I’d recommend it to anyone who wants something great for movies and console gaming. I also much prefer Google tv to amazons ui. The only gripe I have is that it’s a tad slow, but the voice searches and commands are extremely snappy for some reason

[@vikvc]

True. My partner is a perfectionist when it comes when filming and photographing for her content creation, but really doesn't care of superb quality when watching movies on the TV or on her phone. She cares more for the price, and I think that same though applies to probably 90% of TV consumers. Just get a big enough smart tv that comes with the easy to use stream app that is cheap and call it a day.

[@Turk_2023]

@@WhoAmIWill My friend has a Hisense and loves it.

[@timkeklinker]

I'd like to express some compliments to LMG I LOVE the structure of this video - it's a healthy mixture of "trying things out as we go" to take the viewer along for the ride, combined with the occasional hard facts and numbers from the labs sprinkled in at the right moments. Love it! It pleases the nerds with numbers while not losing the viewers who just maybe watch for the entertainment and maybe don't like graphs and numbers as much. Props!

[@cakeorrdeath]

I don’t want or need a new tv, it kept me watching. I didn’t even skip to the end.

[@Cosmicllama64]

I just wish they would put the numbers into perspective. Give the number/result, but explain why it's good or bad, what is the benchmark? Takes an extra 10 seconds and really helps contextualize things (at least for me who wants to learn more about the nerdy stuff to begin with)

[@fgbhrl4907]

@@Cosmicllama64 +1. Gimme a quick ranking of where it stands vs similar products. ("top 10% in its class"). I have no idea what 12.8 dTe or whatever means in absolute terms. But if you have a population of TVs and you can rank that metric against them, it makes comparison a lot easier. In the same way I might not play Battlefield 2199, but if GPU1 gets 100FPS and GPU2 gets 89FPS, I have a good relative metric.

[@steventouchton2508]

I agree with you 100 percent

[@shlomo3816]

Honestly I think the best way would be redirecting to a Techquickie video explaining all of these delta-e values and what they mean. That way you don’t get too repetitive over time and yet can onboard viewers to understand the new HDR measurements.

[@VihMelchior]

I liked very much the "adventire time" segment was a really nice idea, idk if it was on purpose or not but actually nice idea

[@ccibinel]

I was very confused by them censoring the cars infotainment screen but not the license plate number. Fun little side segment.

[@horizon7011]

@@ccibinel Likely private employee information on it. License plates are on a public database I assume. (Think it was mentioned on wan show a long while ago)

[@notstonks20]

@@ccibinel license plates in BC don't contain any identifiable information aside from the number itself.

[@Metal_Maxine]

@@horizon7011 Maybe there's a big arrow that says "home"

[@Swangbang]

@@notstonks20the issue is your address, name, and everything else is tied to your license plate number, you’re not supposed to be able to look them up but not everyone who works for the government has morals

[@Quizack]

Plouffe is killing it in these segments. You can tell he’s really done his research into the TV.

[@VinLAURiA]

Well he owns a monitor, after all.

[@AnHRTBus]

I may be too late for anyone to see this but: FireTVs generally allow you to set picture settings individually in each app. I actually like this, as some streaming services have different "artifacts" based on I'm guessing things like encoding and whatnot. I have my TVs Netflix app set up differently than my HBOMax app because of how different the pictures look in a "default" setting. I do like however that in this units software there was an option to "apply to all." Probably a nice thing for those that want to set it and forget it as it were.

[@OldIslayNick]

@@AnHRTBus Apart from that no TV I owned so far (LG-C9, Samsung S95c) lets you setup picture settings properly in the main menu as every HDMI port has its own settings, too. It‘s not a bug or bad UI, it‘s the way it should be.

[@SpellingBeeWiner]

The Alexa voice controls are actually so important. My brother is paralyzed from the neck down and no other TV allows him to operate it fully with voice like the fire TV does. It's been a massive improvement in his quality of life. Not needing to ask his dad/caretaker to come and raise or lower the volume every time he gets a call or change the program every time in episode ends or he wants to switch shows.

[@babajaiy8246]

There's a huge difference between Alexa voice and voice controls.

[@SpellingBeeWiner]

@@babajaiy8246 I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me haha. What I can tell you and anyone that cares about this feature is that the fire TV can fully function with voice, and Alexa-compatible TVs we tried could not.do things like select or move the selection up or down. The fire-TV is the best solution we found by far.

[@TekkitzMania]

Hey dude! Not entirely sure of the scope of functionalities needed to be represented by voice control, but I work for Sony and I've met a couple of customers that have needed voice control (without buttons pressed to initiate) for similar situations, and the Sony TV range has Google TV built in, compatible with Alexa! Just an add-on to what you're mentioning ^^

[@Voltaic_Fire]

That's great for your brother, I'm happy that voice control and AI assistants afford him some independence, but even as a fellow disabled person I find their inclusion and the inclusion of so much Amazon creeperware incredibly invasive. I do not want to allow any evil megacorp that kind of access to my home, to observe and record me so directly just to better exploit me.

[@yutt]

@@babajaiy8246 Must be great to have such a disconnect from reality that you think you understand any part of this better than someone who has to EXCLUSIVELY USE VOICE CONTROLS.

[@otomicans6580]

It's a TCL but it's more expensive, has no input button, and you're in Amazon's walled garden (which is probably worse than being in Google's or Apple's walled gardens). You could just get a TCL for cheaper. You can also get a 55' Sansui OLED for $200 less, that's an LG under the hood, and it also has an input button. You can see the stars in 2001 (I just checked) if you care about things like uh, detail. And there's the Hisense that was mentioned. So why would you ever want the Fire TV?

[@parold2022]

The “MILF 700” I’m dying

[@oogboog3878]

No you're not

[@Wolf36181]

@oogboog3878 well we all are tbf, just slowly

[@FrankDeMamp]

@Wolf36181 ahahhahahaha reddit moment ahahhahahaa

[@alpenliebe4]

​@Wolf36181 no shit ! Sherlock Holmes

[@jacobgames3412]

They know what to call the product to get more customers

[@RNG_Anarchist]

I love it when my physical mic disabling switch is implemented through software, making it practically useless

[@davidgoodnow269]

Yup. Using an icepick always works, but manufacturers say it voids warranty (it doesn't, it only voids warranty repair of _that)._

[@CarbonPanther]

An icepick? What?

[@davidgoodnow269]

@CarbonPanther If for some reason you can't disassemble something to neatly remove a microphone by desoldering it, it's usually easy to icepick it through the microphone port.

[@mbsfaridi]

@@davidgoodnow269You mean to break it or just disable it temporarily?

[@davidgoodnow269]

@mbsfaridi Break it, of couse! HTH are you going to "temporarily disable" _ANYTHING_ with a HARD, POINTY, METAL OBJECT? FFS, someone take this person's access to the internet away! They _DESPERATELY_ need contact with the physical world!

[@alex_cheeseboy]

I'm to believe the long press home to open settings is leftover from their older remotes (like mine) that lack an independent settings button.

[@smashed_penguin]

7:34 It might save picture settings per-app/per-input, that could explain why the home interface only had backlight control.

[@gingersmedia]

its definitely this. Especially because HDR and SDR have different control options as well, webOS on the LGs are like this too

[@hybrid9mm]

My Samsung does the same thing but it’s more than twice the price so I’m actually impressed as different apps often require a tweak here and there.

[@reilandeubank]

It does, hence the "apply to all inputs" button

[@seanthiar]

I have a Fire TV and it does this for sound and picture - not only per app, but per input, too. You all know the problem that not all have the same output when playing with different players and you change the input and the volume that was okay is suddenly extreme loud or quiet and it's not only the case for volume, but sound and picture colors etc. too. With my TV I can have the same experience for every input and app without changing the settings like volume etc. I have set it up for everything and just change the master in my soundbar.

[@ShimadaSharra]

maybe, but what about external input? i f***ing hate image distortion features. I do the optimization, and i dont want a dumb TV to interfere with my settings.

[@NyaSeiru]

Whether or not it was planned, I really liked the inclusion of the adventure

[@ferenc-x7p]

Yep, I want more of these, it makes it feel so much more authentic and like a reality show which actually has a topic that I am interested in.

[@LinusTechTips]

Not planned lol-LS

[@UnexpectedPlay]

@@LinusTechTips it's so cool seeing you reply to comments and i appreciate that you put "-LS" at the end so we know when it's you and when it's not

[@ThePCExpertAmateur]

6:24 Red light on: Alexa responds to your requests. Red light off: Alexa listens but doesn't respond. Spy mode.

[@mikecapozzoli4423]

Loved the Plouffe laughing edit. Need more of his laughter in my life.

[@jaybird0312]

He's a character for sure lol. Love the guy

[@poplepo3]

4:34, actually best buy has a contract with a amazon fire TV section. Saw them at a local store.

[@Montisaquadeis]

Yeah I was like "Store mode" would likely be for Best Buy

[@Namuautomatizmas]

I am really impressed with editing style and presentation! I hope you will keep this more "amateur" style of editing - with forwards, interesting jokes and this scene where you held the woof before the scene started to film

[@Licensedbeast]

Your Plex is buffering because of the TRUEHD audio stream. You can't pull that when you're trying to output it to a system that can't support it.

[@geoff5623]

Shouldn't it just be passing through the video stream and only converting the audio stream though, which the server should be able to handle in realtime? My plex is on a basic NAS, and I have to pre-convert video because my old TV can't direct play H265, but it handles audio stream conversion just fine when it needs to.

[@camjo_io]

I would suspect it’s just too high bitrate. Streaming a bluray remux (which I’m guessing is what he has on his plex) will cause a lot of embedded smart tv cpus to just choke. They only spec them to be able to reliably handle Netflix level bitrates so anything hitting above 50mbps is not a guarantee.

[@Vootie]

Plex is shite

[@JeskidoYT]

@@camjo_io granted how come every other TV they reviewed is able to play the movie no problem? So sounds like the soundbar is the issue; grabbing an audio format that can't really support it

[@twist3d537]

@@Vootie plex is fine

[@baronvonslambert]

That sound bar for $250 is literally criminal considering Vizio's offerings at half the price. Holy Jeebus.

[@Gohan1138]

save me jeebus! (simpsons ref)

[@general_GAS]

Tbh, hard to hear how it actually sounds through a video

[@Dac_DT_MKD]

@@Gohan1138 I thought it was a Family Guy reference, where in a scene priests from the Vatican noticed a misspell of Jesus to Jebus in the Bible.

[@brittb1696]

Ironic, considering what you see as a "reasonable" price point probably limits your options to products made using wages/workers/working conditions that would literally be illegal where you're buying them.

[@David-mt7tj]

@@brittb1696 Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[@flonou]

Damn I own a fireTV stick and i immediatly saw all I hate about it in this TV. I so much don't want a "smart tv" that's so slow to start, respond to any button press, so limited by design (I tried to change the launcher to remap soem button, at some point it was not possible anymore). Then there are the adds in the menus, the alexa everywhere that you cannot disable, while you pay a monthly subscription to amazon prime. No matter the price, no matter the specs, I hate the fireTV experience

[@travisholt92]

Just wanted to point out the input delay at 144hz being worse than at 120hz is because of display compression. This would likely improve if the resolution were lowered to 1440p or 1080p. 👍 I didn't catch this mentioned in the video, so I figured I'd share that info here. Hopefully color accuracy testing wasn't done in 144hz (compressed).

[@Brogboolius_Maximus]

I'm glad you threw a mention to the Hisense at the end there. I took a random chance on a U7N as a temporary living room TV and was so blown away for the price that I'm still using it and eyeing the U9N.

[@stephenfrancis303]

The u7 is awesome. I bought one for my mom it is kinda close to my lg oled

[@robertt9342]

@@stephenfrancis303. Great value but the gap is pretty big.

[@Brogboolius_Maximus]

@@stephenfrancis303 For real. I have a C1 in my office, and the amount of real-world times I've been able to see the downsides of Mini-LED have been just a handful. No worries about high-brightness game UI burn-in either.

[@presjar4016]

​@stephenfrancis303 It can't do direct stream on 4K HDR content on plex however.

[@langstonbelin]

Wait for the 2025 TVs

[@CriticalGamer1990]

You guys don't come across like employee and employer in any videos your just like a bunch of buddies having a good time and I love it

[@AndyAlert]

You must not have heard the drama about past employees...

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

@@AndyAlert There really isn't any

[@AndyAlert]

@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd there definitely is, whether it was justified or not is another question

[@isaacibbotson4632]

This video was structured really well. I didn't feel like I was being overly entertained, but still felt that I was experiencing this tv with you guys.

[@the-banana-man]

Hey! Love the video, but minor complaint: when your going over the Labs results at the end, can you give some context to the numbers that are being spewed out? Even just a little prompt on the screen like on your GPU graphs that say "lower is better". As someone who doesn't know too much about color accuracy, I feel like I'm just getting info dumped and having graphs thrown as me without knowing anything. I'm at 20:20 as of writing this comment and getting a strong desire to just skip forward or abandon the video because I feel dumb. Thanks for the video!

[@Leandur]

Yes, thank you for noting this. I was about to make a comment before seeing yours. I'm a pretty technical guy myself, but the numbers are very abstract without a frame of reference.

[@johnsherby9130]

I was thinking the same thing, I don’t have a damn clue what de itp or whatever is 😂

[@MalikenVonSonne]

I don't agree, you have all the time and ability to find these things out if you had even a passing interest in TV specs, but you don't, so the numbers are as meaningless as your complaints.

[@-eMpTy-]

Takes 5 seconds to Google what Delta E is.

[@TailoredReaction]

The word that decribes those that do that sort of thing is "pretentious". They know that 99.99% of the viewers will have no clue what they are talking about. But their goal is to leave you believing that they do know. Have you ever noticed that Linus is always the smartest guy in the room doing all the really cool stuff? < eye roll >

[@nope110]

This video felt amazing, it just felt so casual and cosy, like a proper chat between you and plouf, great stuff

[@sk8erdude12592]

14:14 I felt that “maybe it’s my server” deep within my soul. 😂

[@CunnazZ]

All Of US with plex servers know this pain... I felt it too...

[@vos08275]

That's why I always double check with the plex dash app.....

[@elbiggus]

In the UK Argos stock a lot of Amazon Fire products, so it's not impossible one of these might be on display in a store somewhere. (For those unfamiliar with Argos, it was Amazon before there was Amazon; it's basically a warehouse that sells everything, you rock up, pick your item from their catalogue (it used to be a big fat papery book, but sadly those days are gone), pay for it, hang around for a few minutes while it's picked, and it emerges on a conveyor belt ready for collection.) As for saving your wifi credentials to Amazon, it's actually not so bad - as far as I can tell you can't actually *access* them from anywhere, but it means if you order an Amazon device and pick the "add my account to this device" option when you order it it'll just work out of the box, and I'd be far more worried about people buying stuff if they hacked my account rather than being able to connect to my wifi!

[@Metal_Maxine]

I was looking for somebody to say this and you've said it better than I ever could.

[@markiangooley]

@@elbiggus in the USA there were stores like Service Merchandise that were similar. Almost all of them are long gone.

[@YesHumphreyAppleby]

I wonder if store mode could also be for restaurants and similar places that use TVs to show menus etc.

[@SengirIndustries]

The book of laminated dreams!

[@JakeyBaby6]

As a kid the Argos catalog had everything you could ever want! Argos was the place. It's a shadow of its former self now.

[@jennydaninja]

Duuude the adventure segment was smooth and cool! Please do more of those I loved it

[@Curt-0001]

My FireTV just died last Sunday, 58 inch insignia at about 5 years old. The backlight died because I didn't have it in eco mode for that time. The FireOS was TERRIBLE and only got worse with time. When I got it, FireOS had no ads on the home screen, but slowly Amazon filled it with more and more ads, yet, as you experienced at 13:00, the apps ran like shit. Ironically enough the Amazon Prime Video app was the worst offender, freezing up constantly. Maybe allocate your resources to media playback rather then listening me and serving me adverts, god damned trash.

[@Curt-0001]

Oh also Netflix, amazon prime video etc all playback media in 5.1 Surround, which being a lil brokey I used my TV speakers. Setting the audio to stereo in the TV does nothing, and the apps don't remember and set it as a global app setting, and the fireTV sounds like shit piping 5.1 audio through 2.1 channels, obviously. Fuck this fucking TV frustrates me

[@jeffreyeaton5214]

And just for complete clarity, this isn't exclusively a FireTV issue - it's all FireOS products. I have the newest Fire TV Cube 4k(2023) and it suffers all the same issues. If rumors are to be believed, SteamOS is likely to have built-in compatibility with Android TV(idk much about Linux, maybe this is something any other distro can do?) and so if that's true, I'll probably just build a small HTPC and run AndroidTV through that, so I can control the hardware and ads etc

[@snowe..]

You could switch to appletv. Zero ads, had ours for over five years and hasn’t slowed down at all. The TV is a decade old TCL Roku. Response time with voice control is instantaneous, unlike the FireOS in the video.

[@Curt-0001]

@snowe.. y'know, with the current smart TV offerings, I might actually consider it. But only if I don't have to install iTunes and connect my TV via USB to authenticate my device with the Apple net 😂

[@snowe..]

@ I know you’re making a joke, but just for people that aren’t aware, I haven’t had to use iTunes for anything in over a decade. And I do not think you have to have an account to use the Apple TV but I might be wrong about that. I trust Apple with my account more than Roku or Samsung or LG though. I bought a Roku to replace an older Roku a few years ago and it was the most expensive Roku cause I didn’t want ads. Well, it immediately started selling my information and showing me ads. Never again will I use a Roku product. They literally updated old products to show more ads, even though I’d already paid for them.

[@pwykersotz]

Someone give this editor a raise. They made me laugh several times with how this was put together.

[@Jonsu21XX]

That reaction at 4:16 was hilarious to me for some reason 😂😂😂

[@EmesiS]

00:16 Of course you matter....What game was he playing ?

[@tomemu1]

@@EmesiS Legends of Runeterra, my beloved

[@dylanfife5444]

@@tomemu1 specifically I think that was a Gwen deck in LoR?

[@chillibomb]

@@dylanfife5444 nah, it was clearly hearthstone

[@Mooseploosh]

Best card game

[@thevikaskandari]

Linus 😂

[@sploders1019]

1:30 someone in Amazon's PR department just screamed in horror

[@joshuacheung6518]

Or in pleasure

[@HOBOTw1tcH]

That was on purpose

[@stanner1551]

A really well done video, hit all the points and answered my questions that came in my head right as they came in. Well done to the writter, happy new years!

[@mathesar]

The Hisense 55U8N shown at 21:36 has 672 dimming zones in case anyone's wondering (vs 512 zones for the reviewed Amazon ML55F700).

[@DJ3thenew23]

They literally show a table with that information

[@prich0382]

Such a big difference 😱

[@Kalebh2007]

“Firing it up” at 4:20. Nice.

[@williamlewis1805]

WOW, the back shots to disguise voice over? If that's not what you did it's a good one and you should totally do it in the future.

[@sweetlows1]

Kind of an important note on top of the differences between the 55 and 65 of the U8N. the 55U8N, is essentially the 55U8K from last year with a few small tweaks. the 65U8N is an actual upgrade to the previous year's by quite a bit in terms of brightness (2500 vs 1400 in 2% window) and dimming zones (1600 vs 1008) the 55 has 672 dimming zones for each model and similar brightness. if you can spring for the 65, it's a much better value for what you get.

[@N7Robb]

The fact that you have to click the home button, click 3 times down and THEN hit inputs; is insane. Thank god there's an Amazon Music button though I guess

[@Nereosis16]

My samsung tv is just as bad. It's like 5 button presses to change input. TVs are soooooo shit these days

[@AlanSmithee-h6q]

My parents have a samsung and was I astounded how bad the input switching experience was. It felt so out of the way and clunky vs just one dedicated button ... That said get an second Samsung remote with a dedicated input button, made the experience less pathetic.

[@arnaudduplessier7481]

Ok you can ask alexa "switch to hdmi3" ... 0 click

[@artsbyff]

@@arnaudduplessier7481 Even shorter: "Alexa, HDMI #". There's also "Alexa, home/settings/volume #", "Alexa, TV on/off", etc. No clicks at all, and it can detect a very low voice tone when others are sleeping. Hands-free Alexa spoiled me, lol.

[@bitrot42]

Great review, and I love that KZbin's auto-captions know the word "cromulent".

[@NorthernPhoenix]

5:05 Samsungs new TVs do the same thing, you can still use the network functions but you can’t use apps (netflix, hulu, etc.) without signing into your “Samsung account” it also used to not allow you to stream from your phone or airplay into apps without signing in but I THINK that changed, I could be wrong though

[@IamBananas007]

Yuppp. Not signing into the account is a great way to force your tv to behave. I did that, so would stop updating automatically. But sadly, you're right.I couldn't use the youtube app anymore. So I just unplugged the network. Whomp whomp.

[@RascalCatify]

As a self proclaimed Plex expert the buffering looks to be a server transcoding issue. Even if you have it picked to play original quality the TV needs to support whatever container the file is in and codecs.

[@tiloalo]

Did his phone also play without transcoding? Before he didn't have issue there

[@yamanrawat1574]

@@tiloalo most likely because the tv might not have support for truehd audio especially on such highbitrate.

[@jaimepontes3236]

I love everytime LTT makes a video about Tvs or Home cinema. Those and the tech upgrades are my favorite.

[@N7Robb]

4:14 Plouffe's descent into madness is hysterical.

[@langstonbelin]

I'm betting this is a rebranded TCL R655 or QM7 with fire OS Flahsed to it.

[@langstonbelin]

I'd get the QM8 65 or the u8n 65 or the refurbished Samsung S90C

[@presjar4016]

That's why it can't direct play / stream 4K HDR content on plex without buffering. The hardware in the firestick 4K probably has a faster processor.

[@raafmaat]

I loved the adventure time segment, please do more and longer stuff like that in your videos! like actually looking around the warehouse etc, its interesting!

[@itskdog]

One thing I noticed that may explain why the Picture options weren't viewing something: there was an option for "Apply to All Inputs", so I guess the picture settings are input-specific, and you wont exactly be spending lots of time on the home screen, and usually viewing content instead.

[@travisholt92]

Yeaaa that adventure time of traveling from the set to the lab and back to the set was genuinely awesome. It's a minor thing, took up very little time in the video but showed a layer of the work that goes into making these videos that we the audience typically don't get to see from your channel. 👍 Thumbs up from me

[@xpavpushka]

"I guarantee it" all 10 of us understood the reference, thank you Linus

[@dominicradosta4781]

The driving there and getting the thing you need without cutting was nice. Love that.

[@sixteenthofjune]

Not sure if you guys care but you didn't blur the plates after getting the soundbar.

[@pressurewashingbcca]

In Canada it doesnt matter, only people that can get information are law enforcement with just cause.

[@KBorePC]

I believe Canada is like the UK where you can't get any personal details from the plate so it doesn't matter. The only way it matters is to stop people identifying the car in public, which considering Linus' wrap on the car - the plate is the least of his worries.

[@peanutismint]

I’m out of the loop on modern TVs but I’ve heard a lot of them now have annoying things like ads built in and other locked out features, so it’d be cool to see you do a video comparing which TV manufacturer has the best OSD/GUI/software features in 2025.

[@semperinumbra]

I appreciate whoever clipped out every use of the word Alexa, that individual is doing the lords work

[@PureMagma]

@@semperinumbra 💯😇🙌❤️‍🔥

[@mowcowbell]

Doesn't affect those of us who know how to change the wake word. I prefer 'echo' for mine.

[@Shepardofman]

​@@mowcowbell 90% of people don't bother changing the word. So the majority of people would be affected by them saying Alexa every few minutes.

[@anonymousidea9119]

Except one

[@wheniztheend]

​@@Shepardofman you're not taking into account that mowcowbell has changed the wakeup word. So infact there is certainly one person that doesn't have to deal with the Alexa thing.

[@amroallam9302]

Average "Hey son I need you for 5 minutes" task: ‏‪2:18‬‏

[@draven999]

Have to give praise to the Mystery Science Theater style through-head shots. Really enjoyed that.

[@FrugalShave]

I am just giving up on Smart TV's. I hate the interface, the intrusiveness, and the lack of control. I have always preferred a simple computer plugged in to control everything.

[@cheesetomatoes]

My Sony A80L has a dumb TV mode. It's fully offline, no ads, and I was able to uninstall the bundled apps. It just turns on and shows whatever HDMI input I last had it set to. As a TV should.

[@IamBananas007]

The sad part is, computer browsers on Linux cannot do netFlix at full quality. You get 720p still :(

[@ModItBetter]

about the inputs.. you should be able to say "Alexa, switch to hdmi3" or if remote has mic button .. "switch to hdmi3" ect.. i know not the same as button . my tlc does not have it as well..

[@jambosuss]

Thanks for showing the lab drive, really puts into context the effort required to 'just grab a thing' for a stream/video shoot

[@daniwalmsley611]

You can tell the editor is not alexa user. They only bleeped it when he said "hey alexa" and not 3 seconds earlier when he just said alexa

[@KyraTheFloof]

the editor only beeped alexa when linus said it

[@defeqel6537]

I'd guess it's to avoid turning on any watcher's devices

[@MrBigNicholas]

@@defeqel6537 can you read?

[@MIW_Renegade]

@defeqel6537 well yeah, but they completely missed the other "alexa" thst was aaid about 3 seconds earlier. It either went unnoticed, or the editor doesn't use Amazon products

[@savagememes873]

@@MIW_Renegade don't get how people even use Amazon products. the website is so poorly designed it alone is enough for me to not shop from them.

[@tavasoli]

At 5:34, why is saving wifi password on Amazon account bad? What could be the security implications?

[@INumerouno222]

@@tavasoli it can be used to access your entire network so everything in your home connected to wifi if your amazon account got hacked

[@martinwulf8253]

What kind of bad actor is going to hack your Amazon account, and then drive to your house to gain access to your network via your wifi?

[@tavasoli]

@ yes this is the part I don’t understand. Don’t they have to come to your house?

[@INumerouno222]

@@tavasoli no its remote

[@INumerouno222]

@@tavasoli things like electric automatic kettles are unsafe as they have no firewall so people have quick access to your network of devices. Its nothing to do with amazon specifally its just you dont want people to be able to access your wifi in anyway

[@onewitthecreed]

the tcl qm7 is usually on sale and basicly the same tv without Amazon baked into it

[@simoncarney9157]

22:58 No Linus, what's cooler than being cool is *Ice Cold* -- Hey ya! // Outcast

[@u3bertobt348]

I realy Like that adventure at the First 3 minutes, its Something i dont See often from ltt but it was pretty nice

[@Imjeezus]

I recently picked up a 65” LG Oled CX for $500usd on my local used market. It has zero issues and has 10x better image quality than this tv. No BS software like “fire os” and all inputs are HDMI 2.1. As always when buying used Oleds, just make sure you can test it before buying and check for burn-in. However, burn-in is barely a factor anymore on the newer TVs so as long as the TV is 5 years old or newer, I wouldn’t stress about it.

[@ryanthompson3737]

I can also buy a used Mercedes for cheaper than the cheapest new model car on the market. You can't compare used priced items with new items... your used item is ALWAYS going to be better than buying a different option new.

[@Imjeezus]

@ and that’s my point… thanks for reiterating it.

[@A1BASE]

I have 2 of the Omni QLED 55" TVs, just not the mini-LED version and they're perfectly fine for watching movies and streaming shows... For $420 they're even better than that. I'd absolutely recommend it to someone who just wants a cheap, perfectly functional TV.

[@nash......]

0:02 I think I may have the most liked review on those paper towels. 154 people found it helpful.

[@jaizo_827]

wow i've never met a celebrity before

[@0106johnny]

Bro is a star

[@OctagonalSquare]

The physical microphone switch is SUPER surprising, and a welcome surprise. It may not be a good product but I’m glad they did that

[@colin-halter]

22:42 can't wait to see if Honey can save me any money on that affiliate link!

[@DannyByWest]

My thought exactly!!😂

[@SamPhoenix_]

7:20 They lock down the Picture settings to when you're in the input/App - its like this on all Fire TV firmware. It seems janky at first, but its because its fully independent for each input which is quite nice (Also my fire TV is TCL branded so likely they use TCL for all their TVs) The lack of an input button is criminal but the realistically within a year the Fire TV firmware will be slow af (So you'll likely have a separate TV device) - plus CEC is very reliable on these TVs. My Fire TV remote has been sitting in a drawer for months and I either use my Apple TV remote or pickup my game controller and it always turns on and switches correctly.

[@martynjohns834]

loving the "3rd person" camera

[@MainUkraine]

I think I prefer OLED over mini-LED, I like the reduced brightness of OLED because the contrast looks better where bright colors don't overshadow the dark colors. Also OLED is better on my eyes.

[@cloudycolacorp]

mini-led is like cope tech to give some of the advantages of oled in a cheaper to produce panel

[@MainUkraine]

@cloudycolacorp growing up I had a Gameboy SP that I used to play at night in bed and I remember it being insanely bright. My vision deteriorated fast as a kid and now as an adult I am very wary about overly bright screens and eye strain.

[@lifehackertips]

4:40 I don’t like the wifi saying “very good” because 15 “very good” wifi doesn’t tell me anything, I want a two digit number so I can choose the best signal.

[@sol_in.victus]

I also feel like people will assume "very good" to mean the internet is very good, not just the signal

[@ShiftyRightNow]

I got this TV for my 9 year old, and another smaller one for my 5 year old and they work great and I can even turn the tv volume up or down or turn it off from my Alexa in our room. I would NEVER buy one for my self or our living room, but for the kids its great and even comes with 1 year of Amazon kids free as well.

[@Mr.coolguy_45]

Happy New Year!

[@TuxikCE]

they are still behind lol

[@ImARealHumanPerson]

​@TuxikCEthe sentiment stays the same..

[@the_undead]

Where in Asia do you live? It will have been 10:00 or 11:00 a.m. on December 31st for them when you wrote that comment

[@Mr.coolguy_45]

@the_undead I was thinking ahead (USA btw)

[@cburgess7]

Happy new beer

[@DjJay]

I was actually very impressed with the sub on the TV, on the video here it actually sounded better than the sound bar

[@EximiusNovo]

I was thinking the same thing, never heard a TV sound so good. The bar added nothing imo

[@Nostalgia_Realm]

Would really appreciate a deeper dive into how much dat TVs collect these days, especially cheap ones like these were you pay with your data. I feel like it gets too little attention, even in this video it was barely even glossed over. It should really be talked about way more. Evading data harvesting is possible if your willing to. But the ways to do it need more attention on larger channels like LTT.

[@hexzinggaming5040]

Linus would you consider looking at budget TVs or more low end ones. Honestly I think you should have a look at the Toshiba HD 4K tv as you don’t really think about them for TVs but so far I think it’s good and would like to see you do a video comparing the lower end HD 4K TVs to see if any live up to expectations and which you would recommend.

[@z0phi3l]

Based on this negative review of an already lower budget TV, I wouldn't hold my breath or be ready for way more negativity

[@markiemarkmar]

Seems like Linus thinks this is already a budget TV.

[@PlatypusVomit]

Linus considers $700 TV's to be 'poverty level'.

[@hexzinggaming5040]

@@PlatypusVomit fair point the Toshiba budget I got was less than half as much as this one in this video. Mine was around £250 to £210 and his tv literally cost £650 that is not a budget tv. Honestly it’s my secondary tv for my gaming room and might be a bit smaller but it’s big enough to be a main tv and big tv for living room is expensive it’s just under a £1000. Budget tv should be between £200-£400.

[@PlatypusVomit]

@@hexzinggaming5040 My 50in 4k TV was 270USD in 2019 and it's been plenty good enough.

[@notatypobrutha]

The reason why long pressing home opens settings is because the lack of a settings button on the default Fire remote for the other FireOS hardware. Neat feature that needs to be implemented on all of the small form factor remotes.

[@thearbiter302]

19:33 For the labs graphs, I think it would be nice to see an insert that shows how those numbers compare to the other tested TVs. For example, a "This TV was in the Xth percentile for SDR dE2000" plot.

[@schassis_eddi]

4:20 Amazon Books stores do exist. Also Amazon owns Whole Foods… also Amazon Go stores

[@EbikeAdventuresSD]

best buy

[@simons5484]

4:11 best bit

[@demonabis]

I think the TV lets you customize the image settings only when watching content because it wants you to have a live preview of what you're adjusting, otherwise you wuld set up the image settings while not watching a movie for example and they might be off

[@theaterlightman89]

Best bet for a tv and sound bar is probably open box deals at Best Buy, you can regularly find “$700” sound bars for like $250 where is comes with a solid sub, not the entry level card board box with a 10 watt sub

[@kennytheamazing]

Got my 4K LG at less than a year old for 20% of the cost from a cashies. Obviously it's banned from using the internet, but it was a good deal.

[@Arcidi225]

​@@kennytheamazing Honestly tv not being able to connect to internet is a feature worth paying extra for lol.

[@Wahba.]

​@@kennytheamazingif you don't mind me asking, why is it banned form connecting to the Internet?

[@kennytheamazing]

@@Wahba. I banned it myself by giving it a fixed IP on my router and then creating some routes making sure it can not go outside my LAN. It can access my local network so I can use jellyfin with it, but most smart TVs, LGs in particular are horrible at stealing your data and phoning home with it. There's a viral post about an LG WASHING MACHINE using multiple gigabytes of internet per month to phone home with user data. No random suggestions and advertisments on the homescreen is a bonus too.

[@kennytheamazing]

@@Wahba. I made sure of it myself, since smart TVs, LGs in particular are horrible about stealing any info it can find on you, your tv watching habits, or your network. I use it on my LAN, but I blocked it from going outside.

[@bendtondover]

0:37 how did he know 😳

[@White_Line_Warrior_350z]

The segue?

[@fernanditobfly]

To our sponsor

[@goobertnelius]

Cooler master

[@fr0nk3nst31n]

Ive had one of the original 65" TCL Fire TVs for 7 years now and besides the fact that I had to buy a Harmony remote to replace my old remote because I couldnt find a replacement that works with it; it just works and I have not had any major issues that could'nt be fixed with a quick unplug or device restart from the menu.

[@Atlasworkinprogress]

I'll give Amazon credit for putting eARC on a high speed port. So you can use it with basically any decent soundbar or AV receiver for pass through video.

[@lmperioz]

Oh that's why they did it? My TV has the same and I hate it. If I'm switching between Xbox, PS5 or PC I need to swap the cables over every time, since 1 is being used by my soundbar (which doesn't have pass through)

[@Atlasworkinprogress]

@@lmperioz Yes. It is generally the best configuration, as most soundbars worth buying and every AV receiver also works as an HDMI switch for all of your devices. Of course all ports being HDMI 2.1 would be the absolute best.

[@davidgoodnow269]

Better to leave it for connecting any devices that pass video _and_ sound, and use optical for the soundbar. Wasting the only ARC-capable port on a soundbar -- that's stupidity, or desperation!

[@acoupleofschoes]

​@@davidgoodnow269 ARC is Audio Return Channel. If you're not using it for your soundbar, what are you using it for?

[@Pyracantic]

How’d I get here so fast?

[@Jay_gaming_lol]

FR

[@Jay_gaming_lol]

at least we are one of the first

[@AayushNatarajan]

Notification probably

[@Jay_gaming_lol]

@@Pyracantic yea same

[@Dropz_RSA]

It's a 2025 thing, we've just started to cross over on the other side of the world

[@dronepicsbh]

LTT has been amazing from the start, but it's hard to believe how even more amazing this channel has become. It has very responsible and ethical advertising and has NOT SOLD ITS SOUL. It keeps telling the truth. Exceptional!

[@SycsFinest]

8:22 ALLM - Auto Low Latency Mode VRR - Variable Refresh Rate DLG - Dual Line Gate Helpful to explain the acronyms.

[@JoniEnginyer]

0:16 LOR mentioned

[@the_shadow_clasher]

that was definitely gwen

[@jsinp17]

17:30 Pro-tip: To make up for the lack of dedicated input selection button and reduce steps: you can ask Alexa on the remote to switch inputs

[@gmansplit]

Just an FYI that you forgot to add the affiliate link to the Hisense U8 in the video description

[@loz9324]

Honey has entered the chat

[@offswitch43]

“Hey bro what’s it like having a furry girlfriend?” 10:07

[@Yewtewba]

You got me on that one 😂

[@Mut4ntG4m3r]

Input Change is usually the First or Second Option in the Main Home Screen so Its rather easily available IMO. Probably why it has No Button in remote

[@BasedGodGotenks]

You should’ve stopped us from getting honey when you found out why it sucked.

[@Aashishkebab]

All they realized is that they weren't getting affiliate revenue. They didn't investigate.