I challenged a 78 year old to a build off

[@Lincolnstww]

If you want to see the follow up video where we trade tools check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2HLop5pi7VlatEsi=En9hiSUV6AYWxdom

[@smilingdog2219]

It's nearly impossible to vote on two different designs and materials. I like them both for different reasons. Older Johns made a nice serving table that accommodates more and the wood grains and finish we nice, but the small end table had a more refined finish. To test the actual craftsmanship, they'd have to be put to use and some abuse to see if they were stabilized to stand perfectly still and hold a tight frame.

[@wasjosh]

It's bizarre you think people are supporting this shit. "Haha boomers bad no?" What's it feel like having a video that's part of the zeitgeist driving folks to exclusively harm asian and white americans? You know like pushing them to their death on public transport? How do you expect anyone to stand with you and against little old asian ladies and this "boomer" youve made a target of? It's not cute, you're sick in the head.

[@JamesCaldwelll]

Both are nice i prefer the square but the other is nice too im going to build em both nice work guys

[@JamesCaldwelll]

I use pallet wood too but I want to warn you some pallet wood has dangerous chemicals on them so check it out be safe

[@scottmckenzie-hb1xj]

like the pallet

[@diego2112gaming]

Older John didn't need a shop full of toys to make his table, used reclaimed wood, overcame having limited tools, and still churned out a beautiful piece with like, 12 hours to spare. He gets my vote.

[@ryneagheilim9782]

That is why if only young John didnt complicate stuff, wouldve been so much better. Thats is why the millenials need the resources and the knowledge of the boomer. Please pass the baton good sirs.

[@gunderalex]

Also, curious if Young John would've plunked down the Jackery on his own table without a second thought like he did John the Elder's?

[@diego2112gaming]

@@gunderalex HA yeah, no. The Jackery 2000 wotsits weighs about 50lbs, I really don't see that table holding that up without tipping. Maybe if he set it down gently offcenter towards the back of it and prayed, REALLY HARD to the Omnissiah, but I don't even think the Machine Spirit would help with that.

[@jonc2914]

No one needs fancy tools, but it certainly saves a shit load of time... how valuable is your time?

[@diego2112gaming]

@@jonc2914 You'll note I pointed out Older John overcame his lack of tools and still had 12 hours to spare. I believe the phrase is "It's not what you've got it's how you use it."

[@stevedarilek5236]

I’m an older retired guy, so before watching the video, I had decided that older John would win. He used old pallets and created something great. A very good craftsman. Then watching young John creating a very good price of art that was beautiful and stunning I started wavering. I would be proud to own either piece. Hats off to both of you. Both are amazing. I built my own kitchen table in college and it is beautiful and will last for future generations, so I get it. Go to Golden Corral, then to the craft beer brewery and celebrate your unique friendship. It is a greater treasure than either table. As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. Stay sharp my friends!

[@wilsonholland4604]

Well stated sir. Agreed.

[@4mdt21]

Both. Both is good.

[@CaliWaliDoDaDay]

Well said! I have to say this video and the comments have been heart warming.

[@freefall9832]

Old guy wins hands down. Function before fashion every time.

[@alanwortham6413]

Totally agree.

[@1SCme]

*Tie - Golden Corral, beers afterwards* - the round table is awesome, higher level craftsmanship, and unique design, but I am jealous of how quickly and easily the old man put together an awesome table with salvage, leftovers, and a token amount of tools.

[@patientzero5685]

Beer first, get loaded, then late night alcohol absorbing meal lol.

[@benedictjohannes]

Hmm, I'd keep the top hexagon shaped instead of circle, it looks so much cooler.

[@bixon032]

I was wanting to see him set that generator on his table and see what would happen.😂

[@droneflyer5065]

I agree. Tie! Dinner at the Corral with beers afterward at the brewery. Both pieces were awesome! They’re both skilled and talented carpenters.

[@tommas2674]

salvage, leftovers and token amount of tools Gotta go w Matured John.

[@iangraham9050]

Older John gets my vote purely for his resourcefulness, using reclaimed wood, less time, simpler method, and more usable space on the table.

[@davidharris2315]

Older John needs to start his own KZbin channel! He's very natural in front of the camera with a wonderful dry wit and years of experience making useful items from found stuff. We could all learn so much from him. Hope you will pass this on!

[@Lincolnstww]

He is certainly all those things. But you won't ever see him with a YT channel. He hasn't even watched this video!

[@438samwill]

​@Lincolnstww he doesn't need to watch them!

[@KingGarnica]

If you get ideas for some episodes on your channel y’all be big 😊

[@thomasedwards4315]

Bob Ross of wood craft.

[@msrubyphoenix367]

@@Lincolnstwwoh I want to hug him he reminds me of my dad who passed away a year ago. Thank you for bringing him happiness every day with your kindness and friendship.

[@GaryT1952]

Probably the most entertaining content you have ever produced...both projects are spectacular, but the wobbly Ryobi won me over...off to the Golden Corral you go

[@Aretinvondragenfels]

Couldn't agree more. The pattern of the "millennial" looks great. But overall, given material, tools, and technic... off to the Golden Corral you go

[@bitrot937]

we banish ye to the stale bread lair of thy local golden corral

[@zatedford]

Love young John's channel, but old John wins the day!

[@hdwoodshop]

Without a doubt. Old john beats young john. Even in wit. “I won’t live long enough to worry about it!” Old john is a riot!

[@DeafMaker]

Old John wins for me

[@xXSjapXx]

The fact that John's table will hold the Jackery tells me he's the winner 🏆

[@wb8517]

Older John understood more than just the assignment. He not only made an amazing table, he did it with upcycled and sturdy materials and used basic tools. Thats a triple win. Quick and easy ( and only needed sanding). Lol. Both beautiful tables!

[@Staineless84]

Gotta vote for the pallet table. That was made by repurposing old wood into something beautiful and functional. It even held up the Jackery!

[@blu0x7d12]

I was scared he's gonna place the jackery on the little table and crush it lolll

[@senorfuego2148]

very true! there's no way a battery like that is light

[@captainhowdey4704]

@@senorfuego2148 70 lbs [edit = sorry 50lbs .. 70 is the bigger model]

[@gregdrivesdriver5104]

Yeah. Can't really throw the Jackery on that fancy table - no stability!

[@oz_jones]

He also had time to spare! But not sure if its due to the relative simplicity of the pattern (compared to the other) or what. Still though.

[@juleleleldilla3950]

the fact that you put the Jackery on John senior’s table makes the win for me. Its sturdy and solid and already proven to work. I wouldn’t trust the tiny new Johns table to hold that. Needless to say that was a wholesome video congrats to both of yall

[@FreshLeafyVegetables]

Same

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

Yeah, the design methology is very different. The other makes a multipurpose table, the other makes a fancy patio table. Both would be desirable in their respective environments.

[@StanfieldMacCue]

another vote for sturdy wins here.

[@teachoc9482]

I immediately thought the same thing when I watched it. Like "whew, he would break his little table putting that on it." But, the little table is great for the chairs. Both great for their use.

[@warwick0111]

The two of them understood the challenge, but only one understands the challenge. Using the pallet was genius, because you know you will leave the tables outside and that old pallet wood would last longer and is easier to fix

[@Nora-jt9zy]

Very good point 😊

[@joquitasullivan6353]

The older generation was recycling and Diy way before this younger generation was a twinkle in their daddies eyes.

[@DeeDee-y9n]

Both John's are Winners. As a carpenter myself, I can't fault either piece. So its a tie. Great attitudes, great respect, great friends.

[@ash3344]

Can we appreciate how good and healthy our 78 year old fella looks. Good job to the both of you.

[@neilsiebenthal9569]

How about how funny he is. 😂

[@carlotta4th]

It's all about staying active and limber. If you slow down and become sedentary in your old age your body will reflect that.

[@charlottesmom]

He lugs around those saws with the strength of someone 30 years younger! 😮

[@fabiana.4640]

Breathing all this sawdust through his life... his lungs are strong as hardwood

[@johnmaxwell7707]

The round table is lovely, however the Old Boy wins due to the simpleness applied, not spending a penny, recycling and providing a larger more rustic table. Great entertainment and well done to you both.

[@wrmartinez]

I 100% agree

[@JoopHbR]

Ik feel the same!

[@davidanderson_surrey_bc]

You spoke for me as well. I'd also add that Old John did his work with just a few well-known tools, while Young John seemed to have a special gadget for EVERYTHING.

[@gusmc2220]

Pretty much exactly what I was going to say as well. Young John's table is beautiful but older John's table is something I would actually use and have.

[@edwinmaywa]

Exactly so simple

[@_VelociDad]

Another vote for Older John - his outdoor table passes the most important test: when a child (or grandchild) jumps on top of it or falls into it, it won’t break, bludgeon or impale them. Glad he got the Jackery - it’s sweet!

[@sincerdagain6060]

Elder John gets my vote. But looked great but Elder Johns table was more functional and sturdy, with way more surface area.

[@shanen457]

Being an older "gentleman" myself who has been blessed with always having to do things the hard way, plus having a wife who really likes things made from pallet wood, I definitely have to give older John and his happy, positive attitude a thumbs up. Good job at stopping at perfection!

[@meistudiony]

Sr.'s simplicity and the re-use of existing materials is a clear winner for me. The round table is beautiful, but for something you're going to leave outside season after season, i can see those 64 bits of wood coming apart in short order. The older material will almost certainly outlast.

[@murasakirin8998]

Yeah I agree. Even if the round table is put somewhere it won't get rained on, the moisture in the air can easily warp it. John Sr's has already been weathered due to being palates, so I think his will last longer in more places. Both look great, but I also really like how Sr's has more surface area to put stuff on in the case of hosting a backyard party.

[@vals9986]

Loved Senior's use of reclaimed materials but just love the dynamic between these two unlikely buddies for life.

[@TimmyTheMagicMan]

It's time for Golden Corral!

[@meistudiony]

@@murasakirin8998 can put your feet up on it too. The round one… if one of those legs slightly warps whatevers on it will wind up on the ground.

[@Clark42EoC]

If this was meant to be an outdoor table then its absolutely no contest...Sr. John is the winner and Golden Corral for everyone.

[@mt2nv1]

Your wholesome relationship with your neighbor is the real reward here. The world needs more John and John…when you aren’t parenting and he isn’t camping of course. 😉

[@whyplaypiano2844]

My neighbors are all vulgar and suspicious people. I wish I lived in a neighborhood that focused on community instead of extreme privacy. Even knocking on their front door could end in a confrontation if they deem your visit unappealing.

[@Murasame]

@@whyplaypiano2844 what city?

[@whyplaypiano2844]

@@Murasame Suburbs south of Kansas City. Average home value is ~$432,800.

[@RetroSalesAustralia]

These older generation blokes are incredibly resourceful. Spend as much time with him as you can.

[@anonymouseniller6688]

Yup I agree. Soak the wealth of experience so that it's not lost to time.

[@spig3547]

John is basically every average woodworker out there, it's refreshing to see a video with someone doing work how most people do it. As an outdoor coffee table John wins hands down, as a fine piece of furniture you win.

[@jamesmulready4119]

I love the fact that even though they are neighbors they share not only in fun of building something but tools ,advice , and happiness. We need more people like those two

[@RespectMyAuthoritaah]

Yes we do.

[@caleblong3184]

Respect

[@DarkownerMinimalist]

in the past it was that way, now all looking their glass shards...

[@EternalChamp]

People like this exist in abundance dude. Not interested in why you think otherwise though. Certain it’s silly anyway 😂

[@RespectMyAuthoritaah]

@@EternalChamp Just gotta find a way to rain on someone's parade. I bet you are a blast to work with or live next to.

[@danieljamescrow]

I think the 2 million views in 10 days speaks to the quality of this content. Excellent video. Elder John is a gem and must be protected at all costs

[@TamJ320]

Boomer John has the win. Along with so many other comments, his thrifty use of materials & limited tools show his true skill. Great content!

[@Member3285]

Elder John, for sure! Table is sturdy, large useful surface area. I am a function before form kinda dude. Much praise to LSW for filming and arranging! You did great, but young and enthusiastic will never defeat old and crafty! Well done, Johns! A pleasure to watch your work.

[@rudetoy8264]

Same sentiment here😊

[@paul9532]

The fact that the jackery generator ended up being thrown with that much confident on john’s pallet table says enough. Don’t think the little circle would’ve coped with that kind of force 😊

[@MarkCreed007]

Exactly.

[@PedroDeAlvarado81]

I was thinking, oh this is his last attempt at sabotage.

[@tordjarv3802]

He did build that thing to outlive him so I guess he succeded

[@juliahalverson3]

​@@PedroDeAlvarado81tell me you missed the spirit of the video without telling me, you go first. This wasn't a competition about winning, it was a competition of friendship and fun. Nobody tried to sabotage anything, it's not that fucking deep.

[@PedroDeAlvarado81]

@@juliahalverson3 My comment was sarcastic but that went missing in your cerebral cortex somehow.

[@geanbechthold]

I'm going to give my vote to older John. Doing so much with the very basic tools is inspirational.

[@ceesvolkers866]

Myn also

[@Talatharas]

The fact he got such good stuffs... and apparently inspired john junior. John senior wins.

[@jerilyncibulka6162]

Cost effective, less is more ❤

[@bertonlee2459]

Old John for the win! Repurposed materials, tools most of us already have, his stability enhancement for the crosscut sled is genius, and the fact he called his table and heirloom piece.

[@bdm1000]

Well said!

[@woodworkingandepoxy643]

I agree. Old John ftw

[@DC9V]

Also, his table is much bigger. More space for more cans of beer!

[@thatHARVguy]

@@DC9V More space for leftovers from the Golden Corral.

[@DC9V]

@@thatHARVguy or both! 🍗🌽🍻🍺

[@carmenmarcinkiewicz7149]

Younger John's table is a gorgeous piece of art, truly beautiful!! Older John's ingenuity and sturdy build, which ALSO is beautiful. I would say they are BOTH WINNERS!!!

[@yoseflugashi9820]

John had some great commentary, while John overcame some interesting challenges, but in the end I have to say John edged out a win.

[@barstad-9591]

Lol!

[@jimh472]

the correct answer

[@steveevans4989]

Yep.

[@williamtaylor6252]

I love this comment. 😅

[@Lincolnstww]

And you win the comments section!

[@mikecgoff]

I think John’s creativity with the tools he uses earns him a win. Both of you did a great job!

[@cpeabody85]

Younger John is fun to watch, but older John is my spirit animal. Just a "Here's what I've got, let's get it done." mindset.

[@The_Last_Question]

At the drag strip I’ve heard this sentiment called “running what you brung”.

[@wmb5240]

I'd have to give it to Younger John. I'd rather have his piece in my House, but I'd rather have Older John over for dinner because he's not a weenie. Oh, by the way most of that electric is derived from Fossil Fuels and the LI Battery made from Child Slave Labor... Adios ..!! Nice Vid.

[@krishkrish08]

​@@wmb5240oh yeah! we love child labour and child slaves, don't we?

[@jackedlinks5924]

How do you figure? Especially considering he showed the giant solar setup for his battery on this same damn video... Weenie.

[@jackchandelier]

​ @wmb5240 Depends on where you live. In the northwest here most of our power comes from hydro. In California our vacation house is completely solar.. You can also use separate solar panels as shown in the video to charge it. Lithium battery contains cobalt, which is mined by hand for like a dollar a day in the Congo. Horrific conditions for sure. But do you have a better job for them to do? When UNICEF bans child labor, the children often turn to prostitution instead.

[@kimmorrison1345]

The difference in chill/stress levels along with the simplicity and utility of Old John’s table gives him the win. I enjoyed his parts of the video so much!

[@funo6581]

Seeing older John build a outdoor coffee table brings back very fond memories of watching my big Sister make an indoor coffee table out of pallets, while I played with my niece and nephew. Her only power tool was a circular saw that she’d gotten for Xmas and her woodworking attire consisted of a bikini, flip flops and safety glasses. Later that summer she was diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor. She passed away the following summer at the age of 25. In a couple of wks. it would’ve been her 70th birthday. Young John’s design and construction is beautiful and “doesn’t suck” at all.😆 But, I have to go with older John’s table. It’s definitely something my Sis would’ve made in her backyard ‘wood shop’ with the same “dust collection system.”

[@nosreuter]

Just wanted to say thank you for sharing that both sad and beautiful memory!

[@judyives1832]

Very sorry for your loss.

[@otpyrcralphpierre1742]

Damn. How can Anyone compete with that? My heart goes out to you.

[@kdc1153]

​@@otpyrcralphpierre1742Is it a competition? I thought they were just sharing...

[@ttannerf]

John's build really highlights the fact that with any hobby, whether it be woodworking, photography, or fishing. You don't need all the fancy gear to enjoy your hobby.

[@davewallace.8303]

I really liked “Old Johns” table better, it has many more uses and your not afraid to use it. Yours is a piece of art, no doubt, but it’s SO nice, I’d be afraid I’d damage it.

[@chrisviviano3271]

That is a great point. The fancy gear is fun, but it also blows up your ego. I have a problem with buying the best in any hobby I engage in, and honestly it has taken me years to understand that I don’t need to waist money until I am absolutely sure I will continue to love it. Starting out cheap and simple is always the best way.

[@formes2388]

@@chrisviviano3271 The "best" is rarely needed, and often is overpriced for what you are buying. The "Worst" as in the cheapest crap is also bad - liable to cause more headaches than fix. Finding those solid, middle of the line brands tends to be the way to go... usually. And then there are the exceptions - the best paints tend to be much higher pigmented, meaning you can get more coverage out of them, and tinker with them to get the consistency you are after. The best brushes tend to last longer. And we can go onwards with this in terms of reliability, and more, but again - a lot of this is niche, and is really getting into specific items. So no - do not start out cheap. If you are wood working - go find out what basic tools are generally deemed reliable in the industry and use that, or use a comparable offering understanding what trade offs you are making in order to save a buck.

[@TheFastgeek]

Never watched one of your videos before; just a random fluke of the algorithm. Younger John, your table is gorgeous, and as others have said, it easily belongs inside. Know nothing about you, but this was clearly outside of your comfort zone, due to the time crunch, but think you've clearly learned you're more than capable of doing great work without obsessing over every little detail. That said: John the Elder created am amazing, sturdy table that emphasized his versatility, frugalness and skill. Not to mention working with far simpler tools *and* creating his own solutions to address their shortcomings. You're both amazing craftsmen, but you owe that gent his Exact Change trip to the Golden Corral. Your neighbor is a treasure and he's worth it!

[@epicmonkeydrunk]

Well said.

[@WallStBully]

This comment wins!

[@hatedcritic8066]

Love it. My neighbor decided to replace her redwood fence with cheaper materials. I shamelessly collected all of the redwood planks on the curb, pulled all the nails, and built a nice Adirondak chair that will last for years. Plus, I had enough materials to build another chair, repair my own fence, and at least one more project.

[@waterbuck]

We need to see more of the old guy. He's great. He's making cool stuff and not using top tier single use tools. I vote for the boomer table. It's just cool.

[@RandoBogus]

This guy is a treasure. What an awesome neighbor!

[@woodworkingandepoxy643]

He would do amazing if he had his own channel or did more videos on this one

[@gothmoth1616]

I know the guy !!

[@danc2581]

Gotta give props to Old Man John for owning a workshop that fits in a shed. God Bless you guys!!! Teaching trade work is essential!!

[@martincollins6632]

Can't work outside on rainy days.

[@jameslawrence8734]

​@@martincollins6632 I'm 35 and if his arthritis at 78 is anything like mine, I doubt he does much on rainy days.

[@Madpup1uk]

@@martincollins6632 i know that feeling

[@TheIndianaGeoff]

Yeah, and at 18.49 he is literally using the Jackery to run the sander with it covered in dust. Explains the bad acting at the end.

[@Saknika]

Older John's humor and sarcasm is delightful. 💜

[@Akforgetmenot]

Both projects are awesome! I have to vote for older John’s pallet table. Using something that would otherwise be garbage, using tools that the every day wood worker can afford has my vote! Great challenge!

[@korbsen]

Exactly this! The round table sure looks more elaborate and would probably net a higher price in an auction, but given all the background, where the wood comes from, the setup and everything, I'm going with the pallet table too.

[@pollypocket2282]

My thoughts exactly… the KISS model!

[@jordancambridge4106]

Old John made a table the other guy made a toe smasher.

[@thestricklerfamily]

I love the fact that older John can get such amazing results with very basic tools and good ‘ole ingenuity. Also, I want to see you go to Golden Corral- for this reason - I vote the pallet table. But your mid century mid life crisis table is a true work of art.

[@chrisdzisiak7540]

Hey, Always remember “ it’s the poor craftsman that blames his tools “ !!

[@kaflor8005]

If you had both used the same wood and tools, the small table would win, but given the tools older John had to use and the fact that he recycled old pallets, I vote for his table. That being said, the small table is gorgeous.

[@jimmypatton4982]

Could you imagine trying to cut a circle on a chop saw or table saw? The younger John would have no chance of even finishing without his fancy tools.

[@honkerman74]

That's where I land as well. To produce something that amazing with only a few tools in a backyard in such a reasonably short amount of time is wonderful. Granted, the round table is Pier-1 imports level, but let's face it, elder John made something new out of something old, and there's few things more wonderful.

[@jjm152]

I have "upcycled" things from pallet wood before and that alone gets my vote, because it's a major PITA. Old John made it look easy, but it IS NOT. It's quite possibly the most annoying and time/cost inefficient thing you can think of.

[@karwashblark7499]

​@@jimmypatton4982 Just cut an octagon and go to town with the belt sander like the good ol' days 🤪

[@richardterry3000]

The small table is fantastic, but for me the other one win. It shows true craftsmanship because the round one seems like a cheat. Look at it this way.... in today's world anyone with a computer can produce beautiful artwork. Before computer's only true artist could do it. Both works are great but one feels less valuable in terms of skills. Don't get me wrong... the new tech is great but it's just should never be compared to older methods. I vote for the boomer.

[@jesserobledo3439]

Honestly, your table looks amazing, but the fact that he managed to make such a great table with recycled old wood, using fewer tools and half the time, is a winner in my book.

[@JimGrady67]

Your table is a work of art, but I have to give the win to older John, for banging out a table with recycled wood and a bare minimum setup that looked beautiful and dosent suck. Awesome video!!!!!

[@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing]

That wasn't a part of the qualifications for the competition

[@JimGrady67]

@@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing I didn't figure I would have to repeat the rules since they are in the video. But Older John meet the rules plus he "banged out a table with recycled wood and a bare minimum setup that looked beautiful and dosent suck." Thank you for keeping the contest honest, by pointing out the rules to multiple people that watched the video!

[@jobalisk6649]

Honestly, the pallet table might not look as nice as the round one, but the work mentality behind its creation and the usage of tools the way John did, its got my vote.

[@maddhatter3564]

i thought it looks fine and more practical

[@freedom24v86]

The pallet one is the on id likly want to be outside

[@ziguirayou]

I'm 100% percent sure the pallet table will outlast the round table for a few decades at least.

[@bunnyslippers191]

As someone with experience with three legged tables, I really prefer a four legged table. Three legged tables tip and whatever is on the table when it tips is going to at least spill and quite possibly break. Sure it looks fancy and impressive, but it's not practical. Neither are the chairs. With those points on the ends of the arms there are going to be bumps and bruises when people bang into those pointed arms.

[@user-kh2dg7it2nn]

The round table will tip over with one small wind gust. I had a heavier duty one than his and it constantly was tipping. The only thing I like better is the darker color. I definitely vote for the old guys table but if he used the darker color including on the legs and all wood that can be seen from the underside it would be perfect

[@darknessorc2484]

I vote for older John's table, I was surprised by how he just took some pallets and turned them into a neat little piece of furniture + the limitations

[@pamelamaynecorreia1688]

I think both theses tables are lovely, each with their own purpose. But what really stands out for me is the friendship, humour, and talent of both these guys. It demonstrates that there is room for all kinds of approaches depending on what we have access to.

[@BobutBrody]

Dunno how many pallet videos I've watched, and this guy has the best breakdown I've seen. All these dudes out there wrecking their backs wrenching the boards off, and my man just flips the pallet and hammers them off. Respect.

[@kiwiyogi2846]

I noticed that too.

[@skeltonpitts7121]

Used the 4x4 and gravity bro. That plus the champers on those legs. 😮

[@R4070]

That's what "Brains not brawn" means!😊

[@callak_9974]

Wait, people were not using their brains by trying to lever the boards off? I took apart a few things held with nails, and a hammer was the easiest way I could think of to take them apart...

[@joseph1150]

At work I just use a size 12 boot and some pent up frustration to breakdown pallets. Some minor breakage, but it's easy and therapeutic.

[@1Wolf2Love]

I like projects using reclaimed wood. It gives the item character and a story. And the fact that older John was able to build his coffee table with the minimum of tools is a big point in his favor. Both tables are stylish and will perform their functions, but I have to go with Old John as the winner.

[@iwishiunderstood159]

Boomer John for the win. His eye for potential and resourcefulness was great to see. I'd love to see what he could do with your shop

[@backwoodsk8er]

Next Episode idea, they switch shops!

[@Awesomewonder]

Righhhhttttt

[@jerrycopley9325]

The friendship you two have is the winner :) what a wonderful thing to have neighbors like you two !!

[@xCartoone]

John looks very damn great for 78 years old, I vote for his table because the quality he produced for the tools and wood he had is amazing

[@Celestial_Reach]

Ohhh, that's something I hadn't thought of. As a silver Smith I have the most ghetto bench used in the US lol. I like unique though. I really like how the younger John was taking time out of his build to go document the elder lol. That table top is pretty cool, though I like the unique desig you get John did. I like it.

[@dragonsuper6195]

I know right, reminds me of my granny, who looked like a 30 something 40yr old lady as an 80 yr old

[@MaxwellBenson80]

My vote is for older john. Both pieces are awesome! This is the first time I've checked out your channel and it was a great experience. I have a great respect for woodworkers and the works of art they create.

[@steffwhitney6504]

Y’all are amazing. I will never ever fuss about paying for that kind of quality. Are you for hire??? 😂

[@Sertifi]

I agree and same! First time viewer. Old John's stuff was brilliant thinking and the experience showed throughout.

[@NTJedi]

My vote is for older john... his table is larger and more likely to be used whereas young john created a tiny table limiting it's usage and if someone bumps the tiny table it's much more likely to fall over.

[@sophwitchproject]

I love that Elder John re-used wood that could have gone to a landfill otherwise, and still made a great piece. He's got my vote and I hope this becomes a series!

[@karencarriere8104]

I would totally watch this as a series. New challenges each time.

[@Dannyvirk]

True conservation

[@uncrunch398]

We all need to get back to that practice. We don't need to rip out and discard everything just because we'd rather the look of something else. If you really can't live with something that isn't rotting, invite people who reuse materials to come take it out. Then install what you want.

[@HansWick]

Yea a series would be cool

[@godbluffvdgg]

You both won. As a carpenter for over 35 years; creating something usable is a contribution to society...And Projects like these will outlive the makers quite often. Good health to you both!

[@tomg721]

After retirement, my Dad started making furniture out of pallet wood. Also inspired his grandson to become a carpenter. This episode brought back some fond memories.

[@spercwolf2985]

I do like millennial John's patern for the table top but if I had to vote between the two I would vote for boomer John's table because he took used wood and turned it into a wonderful looking design. He even took the time to arrange the wood colors properly so the design patern would be in sync when staining it. I applaud your skill.

[@shiralleehaggart72]

Held together by screws as well unlike the other table held together by glue.

[@spercwolf2985]

​@shiralleehaggart72 Nails, not screws but there was also wood glue used on both. I just like that he made a fantastic table out of used wood. Anyone with basic woodworking skills can make something out of wood and if you take your time in designing it you can even make a great pattern in it but to take used wood and make, not only a design pattern but also a pattern that matches with the wood colors and grain, now that takes alot of skill.

[@fredesman9019]

​@@shiralleehaggart72I voted boomer here, but hats off to the millennial for using real old school joinery and not using nails or screws, the true mark of a woodworker is making it stronger with joinery rather than screws or nails

[@vikinglife6316]

@@shiralleehaggart72 Wood glue becomes are hard as the wood itself. Plus it was on a foundation

[@toldyouso5588]

Boomer John's is something I'm impressed to make myself. While new M John's is what I would save up to buy.

[@aestice]

you need to make this competition a regular event. the contrast between your styles and methods was very entertaining.

[@btraylor1]

Yes!! !!!!!!!!! A regular event with different challenges!

[@mswetra2610]

As an old woman i really have so much respect for making things out of reclaimed wood. We waste so much and i love seeing my generation setting a good example. Beautiful table❤ Oh and you are both very witty😊

[@brianmcvicker829]

I’m voting pallet table for the win. Don’t get me wrong, the other is modern and beautiful. If the two were side by side and I had to set a sweaty cold beer on one, I’d choose the pallet table because if it got a sweat ring, it would add character, the other table would need a refinish. If I needed to quickly set down an alternator for a min, pallet table it is as it appears more stable and less likely to tip. You get the pict. Both are great for their own space. Really cool of you to give him the Jack! What a great gesture!

[@BrianReichert]

I gotta put my vote in for John Sr. Often people think it takes tons of fancy tools to make nice stuff but he shows you can do a whole heck of a lot with simple tools and a little ingenuity.

[@hdaline69]

I preferred Olde John's table, then when you put the genny on it at the end, I fell in love with it! His ability to make something useful, and beautiful, out of "junk", with lower budget tools, and not complain once, is refreshing, and awesome! His comfort working with the materials and tools, It's obvious he loves doing this and has been doing so for a long time.

[@juliamilford1979]

Best comment. Little John whines a lot!

[@kdc1153]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed all the whining by young John!😮😅

[@HeatherMyfanwyTylerGreey]

John and his reclaimed wood table speaks to me more. Initiative , saving and reusing with a good healthy dose of foraging for timber is global Boomer language. 'Mony a mickle maks a muckle' as my maternal family would say!

[@davidpolk1894]

Old John gets my vote. Using a minimal amount of tools and reclaimed wood makes him an easy pick for me! Both turned out great though!

[@Yzerbruh]

You got yourself a great neighbor. Seeing and hearing his woodworking philosophy I can definitely understand why he wouldn't be interested in using your fancy shop tools. The contrast between your approaches is a gem; you're going for a higher concept and finish, while he's going for a much more rustic product. You use quality product and apply many techniques, while he upcycles his product with minimal processing. Comparing your tables is an apples to oranges comparison, both tables look nice.

[@machintelligence]

Which one would you leave outside on your patio?

[@Zripas]

@@machintelligence I would take Johns table. That older John's table. For patio you don't need some fancy shmancy tables, that one made from scraps is allot more suitable and has more character in it.

[@joefebri3236]

Nah, Millennial tables looks Nice. But the boomer table is practical. I'll take the boomer table. Your point about comparing them like orange to apple is right tho.

[@zekecooper6055]

I agree both look amazing but I'd use John's for my outdoor experience the other I mite use inside for a flower pot or lamp

[@hdpowerwashing4802]

@@machintelligence rustic table would go best here i like the old looking stuff. great work on both. they both put the detail in there work it shows. guys like you two is a hard find now a days.

[@FlyenNun1]

I typically dont watch woodwork vids, but these two were so beautiful to watch together. You've both hit the holy grail in friendship.

[@moonlitegirl72]

Guys I think it's a tie I would put either one of those in my house and cherish them. I think both of you should go to each other's choice of entertainment 😄

[@connorrhunterUK]

This is your gateway video. Actually more like a black hole. There’s no going back

[@randommm-light]

I find this a great format.. love meeting other woodworkers, seeing two builds instead of one, adapting to the found materials, the challenge of "never made it before", and learning how different build strategies mean different sorts of work. So many themes going on. This would be a great way to partner with other woodworker channels and multiply exposure

[@bulujeegar9184]

The fact that you are neighbors and have this awesome relationship tied to the same passion makes both of you the winners.

[@paytonjohnson660]

“Sanders cover a lot of sins” is my new go to woodworking saying. Thanks John. Us Boomers rock!

[@JaredWyns]

This needs to be a woodworking t-shirt, hah

[@shamrock4500]

My carpenter Brother always said, "we aren't building a piano"

[@grantmcinnes1176]

Sander and paint makes me the woodworker I ain't :)

[@JohnSublette]

@@YoureUsingWordsIncorrectly Caulk makes the finish carpenter...

[@kassiog.6595]

its like " grinder and paint makes me the welder i ain't "

[@carboranadum]

"Are you at all worried about wood movement?...I' don't think I'll live long enough to worry about it" I'm rolling here. I love Old John! Excellent video!

[@Lincolnstww]

I’ve now watched that scene over 50 times because of the editing process. And I still laugh every time. That was a gem

[@carboranadum]

@@Lincolnstww As a new woodworker who is 57, it induces belly laughs and some cringe for me.

[@joeleonetti8976]

My dad said same thing about the detached garage roof when he reroofed it. Then a few years later, a wind storm blew down a big tree and crushed the garage. He then needed a new roof and a new garage. All is well now. Wasn't that funny when it happened.

[@jimskewes8337]

Very entertaining. As I am 75, I can relate to John the elder. Both projects are functional and will provide years of use. Congrats to both.

[@kn1ght_ch3f78]

Old man John gets my vote. Pallet tables are awesome. The patterns in that table are fantastic. Not overworked.

[@Corn_DOG]

As someone who is just starting woodwork without space or equipment for a shop I dig seeing what neighbor Jon was able to do with his limitations! Great video

[@kalrandom7387]

You don't have to go out and buy the most expensive stuff to do wood projects. Those plastic tables are 20-30 dollars oh, I do recommend better sawhorses Kobalt has some cheap metal ones that have worked fantastic for me, they recommend a stand for both your table saw and miter saw oh, that have them on Wheels where you can tote them around really easy. Have fun take your time with stuff just don't be a over perfection

[@saltycreole2673]

​@@kalrandom7387made my own sawhorses. Very sturdy. Thanks to my Contractor Uncle Leo!

[@johnscully1924]

Decent mid-size table saw, decent miter saw, decent band saw with tilting table, drill press with tilting table. Some good pocket screw jigs, hinge jigs etc. Add some Milwaukee M18 Fuel hand tools (router, finish saw, impact driver, palm sander, oscillating tool and few others) and you are pretty well set. Now watch a bunch of videos and make a bunch of jigs. You do not have to break the bank. As in most things, the quality difference from cheap tool to mid-range is huge (far greater than the difference in price), while the jump from mid-range to top-end is smaller (and the price difference HUGE). If you can easily afford a great table saw - get one. But great work can be done on a mid-range one. Table saw jigs are fantastic. The sliding bed with clamp channels is a lot of work to build, but allows you to do something in two minutes that might take 30 without it...and is accurate, versatile and safe. I built a similar one maybe twenty years ago.

[@Heffay139]

Nowadays, being able to afford all the "new fancy tools", is insane. Being able to use pallets in such a way, with limited amount of tools, is the genius we all need to learn!

[@N8Dulcimer]

Half of the fancy tools he used could be replaced by basic ingenuity. At one point younger John used some strange 'belt clamp' that could be mimicked by any basic winching knot, or even a belt. Woodworking has been done by simple means for thousands of years. The modern implements tend to sacrifice quality for convenience. That or they are extremely convenient due to using excessive tools. This youtuber could never make any money off furniture, since his equipment costs far more than anything he makes would ever be worth. KZbin has produced a fascinatingly useless type of woodworker who has ten thousands of dollars of equipment, and makes end tables worth about 50 dollars each, then earns 20 thousand dollars off ad revenue.

[@57thorns]

@@N8Dulcimer Definitely a good point. so many of these oversponsored channels are useless for anyone looking to learn a hobby to perhaps do something at home once in a while.

[@FunnyDougy]

@@N8DulcimerI agree whole heartedly. This video was like watching Dunning-Kruger vs Reality. The inability to adapt to the situation and the smugness compounds on the inability to move at a pace that wouldn't get you fired on a jobsite or a workshop. Without advertising revenue these "construction performers" would be working retail. What's worse is you get "do it yourselfers" watching guys like this. Creating more people who can't hack it that smugly look at a real professional's tools box as if they're superior. Superior at what you clowns?

[@HouseholdDog]

​​@@N8DulcimerActually anything that cuts time means more money. But having all this for the odd jobs around your home is a little crazy. Hell my dad did a ton of work with just a circular and jig saw. Not even a mitre saw.

[@N8Dulcimer]

@@HouseholdDog With modern mass manufacturing, custom work is the only thing that makes ANY money. Look at the end result. You could find similar from an overseas factory for under 150$. Hell, under 50 if you don't mind the top being a veneer. Two days of nose to the grindstone working round the clock to produce a table that could maybe be sold for a few hundred dollars. Subtract 50 for the materials and power supply, assume around 12 hours of work a day (since he implied he was working overtime to get it done) and he's not even making California minimum wage. That is *BEFORE* you take into account *ANY* of the expensive tools! xD The truth is anything you can make with fancy tools, a factory can crank out 1000 of, with pretty good precision in the same time. If you want to profit at woodworking you need math skills, carving skills, and restoration skills. That or learn how to use CNC. Point being, for tools to save you money, you have to breakeven on the cost of those tools before any money you make counts as profit. If I make 300$ tables on a $3,000 table saw, and the wood costs 50$ and I want to get paid 150$, I'd need to make 30 tables just to buy that table saw.

[@mep4488]

I really enjoyed the respectful relationship between the two gentlemen! Both tables were beautifully and creatively done. Thank you for a great video that made my day!

[@DaMoniable]

Older john gets my vote for sure. He shows effortless skill in his craft, literally took junk and turned it into something quite lovely, and probably has the years in experience to know just how far that little table will go in its new life. The midlife crisis table is lovely too, but theres just something lovely about something so simple and yet effortlessly made with so little tools.

[@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing]

Just because your Father left you doesn't mean you need to show the whole world online . . JK😂 have a nice day/night

[@Andy-t2q5i]

​@@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoinginteresting answer. you didnt have to, but you made the choice to do so anyways in the way you did. do you have an idea what that says about you (and your father)? ;)

[@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing]

@@Andy-t2q5i they left a comment before on a different video saying they never had a father. Try again bud 😂

[@Andy-t2q5i]

@@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing so what?

[@eilonhay4812]

honestly, you're living the dream, having a backyard for cool projects with a cool neighbor you can have a beer with is just something out of the movies. absolutely love this video

[@PRIYARANJAN285]

Awesome work guys! My vote goes to elder John given the sturdier table . To young John, your table is a work of art! Excellent design great aesthetics but not something I would buy. Probably you both should do a mix and build something together. A flavor of experience with a touch of new design.. Love the video overall❤❤

[@PRIYARANJAN285]

Awesome work guys! My vote goes to elder John given the sturdier table . To young John, your table is a work of art! Excellent design great aesthetics but not something I would buy. Probably you both should do a mix and build something together. A flavor of experience with a touch of new design.. Love the video overall❤❤

[@xzonia1]

Yeah, if I'd grown up next door to someone who could help me learn woodworking, it's probably what I'd be doing for a living these days. I love DIY and wood projects, but I'm a bit clueless on how to do any of it successfully. John the elder's table is something I'd probably choose to make myself - reclaimed wood, sturdy - but John the younger's table is something I'd probably choose to buy for the lovely design elements and because I wouldn't hope to be able to make it myself very well at my skill level. Both are great guys! Would love to see more dual projects, whether competitive or cooperative ventures. :)

[@exhibitdesign901]

Your friendship is the real winner. Both pieces have their own beauty. I love the idea of a total recycle that elder John was able to master with limited tools and also the geometric beauty that John The Lesser was able to craft on a short deadline. Bravo gentlemen!

[@Janet-e4h]

The older generation could teach you far more than you can imagine...with old salvage, hand tools, and ingenuity. Yrs of experience can teach the young so much.Never doubt or criticize.

[@michaelking9964]

The talent and humility of each woodworker is spectacular to see. Well done.

[@Mihomiti]

As my father once said to me, the craftsman only sees the flaws, while everyone else will never know.

[@sauleevava1915]

The real test is when, at the end, you plunked your heavy jackery unit on your old neighbour's table and it barely shook! Sincerely, you both did a great job and your audience, watching you both, are the winners. Well done.

[@Lincolnstww]

My mind was blown while reading this! So true. John’s table didn’t even flinch and that sucker is heavy

[@sprayitdown50]

​@Lincolnstww any chance your table can hold it too? The internet says domino's are basically diamonds (and priced like them too).

[@IQLion]

This comment thread may have started a test known as Jackery test. John, you at least own this to your sponsors. Let's see it happen.

[@g5flyr169]

Excellent point @sauleevava1915. I didn't notice until you mentioned.

[@Lincolnstww]

@@sprayitdown50 yeah it would hold it - those tripods are shockingly strong

[@johngrubbs9494]

While I'm a boomer myself, and VERY close in age to John Sr., my vote is for millennial John, based on the following. I am very impressed with the hard work the young John put into that top, and those innovative jigs that he built on the fly. And I totally appreciate his comment "Forget the angst, just get on with the build" (granted not verbatim), but something I need to practice. John Sr.'s offering was very nice too and kudos for cranking out a gorgeous table with minimal tools. The icing on the cake for me was the appreciation shown John Sr. by John the younger!

[@thewestendwoodworker]

Totally agree with comments on the younger Jon. What friendship between the two .

[@pipsplay]

And kudos for minimal material! Everything John Sr. used was pallets or scrap.

[@davidcatterton923]

Both tables are outstanding! Complements to both of you... Working with your hands and making something with passion and pride shows our country isn't at a total loss.... Yet!!

[@danachefchis4707]

John the Elder and John the Younger are the winners of the day. The tables are both outstanding in their own way, but the shining star of the video (in my opinion) is the friendship and true spirit of trust and good fellowship these two share. I serendipitously saw this video and found more than a neighborly competition. I'm going to enjoy the happy feeling I got from their camaraderie for a while

[@ryneagheilim9782]

Honestly thats something an anime character would say. But it's true, beautiful words!

[@danachefchis4707]

@@ryneagheilim9782 As a 78 year old retired RN, I barely have a nodding acquaintance with anime, much less an awareness of how it uses the English language. I don't understand what you imply about my writing. My vocabulary and writing style are both products of a late '50's education. I write from my heart and my own perspective, and that's the truth.

[@ramiroalvarez9968]

Man brother you found the key to life! Making friends and making memories. Props to you both and especially you for making this video!

[@Lincolnstww]

I appreciate that!

[@edamnaf9265]

He's trying to 'embarrass' the older generation. All he does is embarrass himself.

[@CrowdSurfingGeezer]

​@@edamnaf9265 oddly, I had the opposite reaction

[@arcticheroh]

​@@edamnaf9265i dont get where you see that lol it almost is like he is showing off the older generation and their skillset.

[@javieveloz4586]

I agree I see the beauty in both!! Me getting older I do appreciate smarter tools

[@skilledshots7200]

Old meets new, this collaboration between the two of you in a "build off" was excellent content to watch. It was very refreshing to see two people from two different age groups coming together to show two different ways to get a similar result. Being almost 50 myself I so appreciate the very old school way of taking everyday things i.e. pallet wood and making something beautiful with very minimal tools and all skill (and a lot of sanding) and at the same time watching your newer school techniques in using tools to create very beautiful and precise pieces. I believe you guys should hit the Golden Coral and then go out for Drinks after! both pieces hit the mark in skill and beauty and although it was a competition, I believe that the wonderful friendship you have built with your neighbor over the last 8yrs was and is the real reward. Would really like to see more of this "competition" style content LOL

[@PureNrGG]

I feel that! I'm only 32, but I have an obsession with working with junk wood to make stuff. I'm basically like the old John in terms of tools and outdoor shop except no tablesaw, though I finally finished making my own with a circular saw. I also just picked up a cheap router and am learning how to use it.... its finally time I start building with my years of stockpiled junky, falling apart lumber 😂

[@highgatehandyman6479]

Great channel mate. I learned from my retired neighbour. The principles and philosophy of old world building techniques. String lines and plumb bobs. Water levels and stone saws and levers. I use these principles every day but have plenty of gadgets like track saws and lasers. Those old hand tools i inherited have great sentimental value and still do a job

[@scpvrr]

I’m a few days late to the party. Just found your channel today. Older John FTW. His table not only rescued junk, but in the end it is far more practical and useful.

[@abbynormal4740]

This is one of those random YT recommendations I wasn't looking for and didn't know I needed, but was absolutely spot on! 😄👍 You both could easily pass for father and son who share a passion and talent for woodworking. Love both projects. The mid-century modern aesthetic of the Millenial built table is such a stylish complement to the side chairs. However the edge goes to the Boomer for resourcefulness and durability. Repurposing pallet wood to make a sturdy, visually appealing outdoor table that was already weathered and intended to outlast the builder - priceless 😄 Time for a Golden Corral run, but also a microbrewery trip, for gifting the Jackery! 😀

[@EGreeneConversations]

I feel you on this one. I didn't think I'd like it at all, but John and John won me over in the first 5 minutes. I'm all for this channel now.

[@kiwiwannabe9189]

The edge ALWAYS goes to the boomer for durability and resourcefulness. We drank out of the hose!!!

[@GoGracefully]

@@kiwiwannabe9189 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣SOOO True!

[@vlr78]

Same... random YT recommendations... and you wrote exactly what a i thinkink, but better! Great video! Amazing working (2 days!!!) Beautiful tables! Great comment! Thanks all

[@abbynormal4740]

Tbh, the elder John kinda had me at, "You know rabbets like to multiply... I started off with one rabbet and now I ended up with four." 😁

[@stanislavschaefer3233]

I split my vote for their friendship as neighbors and having a common hobby of spending time with each other. Both tables have a story to tell and a purpose to serve. Eat some food and drink some expensive beer. Well done, guys!!

[@theluth9046]

I totally agree with you!

[@sherishaw-wn7nr]

Thank you John and John for your healthy competition. Although John, the Younger’s table is GORGEOUS, John the Elder WINS!!!! John the Elder wins the competition bc he did “more with less”!❤ But overall, John and John are both winners for doing such great video for us!!! Thanks a million!!

[@peetywondr3256]

It warms my heart to see a skilled craftsman passing on his skills to the younger generation - so many older skills have been lost to todays generations. It's true that modern machinery has made the job/project easier and quicker to completion but remembering that in the old days, these fabulous projects were accomplished with hand tools and ingenuity. I love that these two guys are neighbors and friends and share a common hobby. I say hit both venues, Golden Corral AND the beer joint together.

[@toridwms]

Older John for the win. Practical and best use of tool wins for me. I need lots of space for my random crafts. The repurposing of the pallet is great and the friendship between you two is the greatest. 😊

[@BellaDiiva]

Big John gets my vote! Everyone loves the thought of repurposing old items- myself included. Haha! Is this part 1 of a series? 👀

[@5714sqd]

Wow, this eighty seven year old woodworker is impressed with both efforts. Both tables were awesome, and the use of scrap pallets was ingenuity itself. The table of younger John was also eye-opening. Great video. And amusing as well. It's a tie, by the way.

[@バナナお爺さん]

Old john has the spirit and the skills to let his albeit small but sufficient workshop to work magic into those random pallets and chunks of wood.

[@dumitavi1]

You and I both knew that, no matter how beautiful your table was going to be, old John had this win in his pocket. :) Great job!

[@Lincolnstww]

You got that right!

[@terry3252]

Golden Corral it is. With the limitations on available tools and the fact that he used wood he found I have to give to the 78 year young man. I really enjoyed this video. Great work from both of you