I Debate Prakhar Gupta on "Self Help"

[@Zaumya619]

0:38 " "you are not a colleague, you a fucking coloniser" -Not like us, Kendrick " -gandu shikari

[@ifinditinteresting.8709]

Prakhar actually makes good arguments.

[@dr.arthurgreen7198]

This has a translate to english option lmaooooooooooooo

[@Sury363]

Nice matured discussion, convenience religion, convenience faith, true, only the one who really understands self, "who are you?" treats god as self, everyone is god ultimately because we are created by that one god, call him anyname , anyform

[@exerjiexerji289]

24:27 Not all are like that and not all are so for their lifetime, Kushal bhai. Personalised equation with a deity (be it Ram, Muruga, Durga, Shiva..) may start off in a transactional way but it matures over years into something else. I think it will be unfair to caricature it so as either the main way or the predominant way.

[@shadabm9543]

21:53-24:23 - India is religious in a very convenient way (yes and no answer to god ) 24:47-25:50 - Negatives of indic way of dealing with god (karma) 38:17-40:53 - How one should actually percieve Self help? 45:10-46:33 - why tarrot reading and astrology works in favour? 49:25-50:20 - we all are selectively rational 56:00-59:40 - i don't know

[@saikatbiswas127]

Brilliant Brilliant pod cast. I would really love to see both of you discussing on certain books. Like Crime and punishment

[@mokshit7620]

I personally think that most problems in India are either unheard of or not discussed. If discussion happens it usually is Between two groups/individuals who are already very militant in their approach to anhilate the other's view which often leads to nothing. If we really think , most of our problems can be solved by healthy discussions with intellectual honestly. These kinds of discussions should be encouraged in India . The usual masses don't like to think about these issues because they get easy Ready made world views from " self claimed intellectuals or saviours" and then as a byproduct "mob - mentality" emerges which will hardly discuss anything, keep aside a healthy discussion ( echo- chambers). Thankyou for the wonderful podcast🙏🙏

[@vinaySingh-ny7un]

Logo ko bas goody goody bate chayie aur kuch nhi bhaut hi zyada escapist mindset hai !!

[@abhinabaroy3858]

Agree. Also, when somebody actually tries to do actually something good for himself and his audience, people label him all sorts of things. "Gyan mat ch*d", "Jaa na. Sada bakarchodi mat kar", ".......from naaptol" etc etx

[@mokshit7620]

@@abhinabaroy3858 the " Gyan mat ch*d" is always from the " I know everything, I am the only right , the opposite side is demonic" people or groups. Like litteraly people are against knowledge 😂😂.

[@control_the_narrative]

​@@mokshit7620thats bcz these people are worthless creatures who have achieved nothing but a trolling mindset

[@abhinabaroy3858]

​@@mokshit7620 yes people hate those who read and think or question the norm.

[@bnaiyappa]

I think Abjijith Chavda is pretty intellectually honest

[@ElN246]

Kind of.. But he tries to be politically correct at times.

[@shiftenter10]

​@@ElN246Perhaps he is looking at business benefits from all sides

[@ElN246]

@@shiftenter10 no thats beer biceps. Abhijit sir is trying hard not to offend anyone

[@PrinceJha-fz4cv]

He doesn't emphasize enough on how many of the things he says about History is something that we are not certain about but we can try to contemplate what might have happened. He says alot of it as if it is proven or certain that some things happened . But the evidence for the certainity is not there.

[@sageofsixpaths98]

​@@PrinceJha-fz4cvat least we have started talking about such topics and narratives, cuz back in the days before jio. There was hardly anyone who publically had talks like that. People used to learn these things from their elders or some viral audio clips of the likes of Rajiv Dixit, even that only to a certain extent. So I'm happy that at least it has become a part of daily conversation.

[@sher69420]

hearing prakhar talk about philisophy after a long time ..

[@natashajairaj8611]

Thanks for an honest conversation

[@ParthPatel-wc1iw]

This debate proves that reading more books teaches you word formation, not thought formation. For the latter, the most important input is observation with a quiet mind. A real intellectual doesn't depend on credible data reports to take right decisions. Unfortunately, the statistics has become numerical verbosity. For example, Veer Savarkar believed in Aryan Invasion theory but his thinking is so beneficial for the masses.

[@gargoyle2187]

Actually I was thinking on the same line. Why people focuses on the grandiose words rather than making thoughts succinct and simple to understand

[@gautamnegi8803]

what do you propose? that we should not rely on facts and depend upon false information ? statistics is the only way to calculate and evaluate data thus moving further creating right decisions . what you just wrote is just utter bullshit because you are only promoting illiteracy that's it pal.

[@jishnu9551]

​@AjjutheConquerorCan't really blame him at that time. Nazi "Aryanism" was accepted at that time even among scientists.

[@gautamnegi8803]

statistics helps to improve the situation . what do you propose ? are you promoting illiteracy in the first line?

[@ParthPatel-wc1iw]

​​@@gautamnegi8803 What I mean to say is that rationalism is only one half of thinking. It is incomplete without empiricism. Western institutions presuppose that their model for evaluation is the default. This may be unintentional. They have already made our history syllabus murky. That was not unintentional. Creating possibilities requires a very novel set of actions than just playing with probabilities. Optimization is THE biggest problem of modernity.

[@siddharthaghimire2415]

12:44 self help relationship with religion and atheism 13:32 self help for efficiency and its history 15:35 self help 9 bil market 18:25 to be homeless is to fall social Current and be addicted and fear as a currency and risks 20:53 religion provides core anchor and about god 25:42 view on neg of indic philosophy 43:14 self help and their teacher 45:27 logics base is belief and assumptions 55:28 ethical self help for questions

[@ElN246]

Pichle janam ke karm is an argument i find the most sensible. No person would like to believe that they got a bad deal in life simply as a result of coincidence. This way atleast I can have some solace and believe that maybe I did something bad in my previous life so I was born blind

[@karanaswani4064]

Believing in karma in the sense that someone has some disability is as bad as believing it was a coincidence. There are scientific studies that you can use to determine the cause of disability.

[@chetanpatil4502]

I feel it's the worst argument ever.

[@amiteshsingh4165]

​​@@chetanpatil4502 why are people born below poverty line or handicapped? Why do some people go to jail for crimes they never committed? Pichhle janam ke karm is a belief system to answer these questions and hence lead to solace.

[@kumarshivam1234]

I believe its the worst arguement because it leads to lack of empathy amongst individuals towards the people who get the shorter end of stick. Like a person could very well stop donating for cancer hospitals , saying the people who got cancer deserve their fate because of karma and by helping them we are interfering the cycle of Karma

[@ElN246]

@@kumarshivam1234 literally no one believes in that. Meeting the doctor or a benefactor at a right time is also the result of karma. Therefore there's no reason for the benefactor to feel any sort of hesitation/guilt

[@gemsofmysticwood]

The every step that you take, if you're becoming more happy, joyful, fulfillment and ecstatic than yesterday that's call Self-Help.

[@Noname-oq9mk]

I don't think anybody take ankit Shah seriously....in BJP... I don't know why Jaipur dialogue entertain him.... They had many good speakers....

[@rakeshbarman3486]

bro he is climbing up social ladder , believe he exaggerates the heck of everything, if a guy knows everything then he must be a fraud

[@swapnildeshmukh7113]

Sir wo Strauman and another level kya hai?

[@aksharparmar9048]

straw man and steel man

[@ME-14Anuragdarvatkar-og9xr]

Is there any full version of starting intro song its pretty soothing while listening ??

[@vickeykooper2674]

Kushal Mehra, actually Prakhar, by mentioning that religion in India is largely for convenience, showed your blindspot, beech mey thoda bhoklaa gaye aur phir aap uske course aur books ke taraf divert kar diye.

[@AxatNarigara]

Self help is hard to explain. What my issue is, at what point does data and facts take over the consciousness? Like, i did an offline surveys at work, college, university, most of the agnostics and atheist, engineers, STEM field, mathematicians, critical thinkers, etc which requires patterns were neurodivergents. Or have different brain chemistry from a neurotypicals. And this can vary from person to person interaction and set and settings**. Is it the missing information and data that makes your consciousness locked or lack of self introspection? Or people are on survival instinct and they become conscious only when shit is about to hit the fan?

[@pratapvalsangkar4511]

Kushal gave fringe element examples of self help videos and says he’s scared. He peddled doomsday scenario by saying if it goes in this direction, then government is going to legislate laws. When Prakhar flipped the table and said that in Kushal’s area also people say illogical things like he gave example of a podcast he did with someone, then Kushal dodges it. Prakhar’s energy was down when his point was not heard and Kushal kept clinging to his point of view. Prakhar said indirectly perhaps that he doesn’t want to offend Kushal because he is elder and his fans might abuse him. I want to counter Kushal about him being scared of the fringe Baba’s giving tona totka advice and clubbing it with self help: look at Dhinchak Pooja, she is cringe content creator, she calls herself “singer” but do people not know that it’s cringe? Who really admires her for her singing skills? People make fun of such content.

[@VikashKumar-kw5ck]

Jai maa Durga 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@devshah6694]

Glad to see Steve Carell with Prakhar.

[@ShivS-xl4hv]

I thought I was the only one who noticed

[@adityaoza8562]

the audio on this one isn't loud enough.

[@rakeshbarman3486]

kushal objection to self is quite right

[@vickeykooper2674]

kaash kisi din Kushal Mehra Acharya Prashant ka bhi interview lenge. bahut mazaa aayega

[@crisnadevaraya7671]

Idea: Kushal Abhijit Ranganathan tour ASI site guided by Praveen Mohan as they judge him

[@rutvikrs]

No chance. Praveen Mohan will say aliens and all the three will go ham.

[@globaldesikan]

Kushal and AIM troll Praveen Mohan. This will never happen

[@NishantShyamGoutam]

😂

[@rakeshbarman3486]

bruhh praveen is also a fraud in my view , yes I m proud of our hindu architecture but he always brings some king alien technology 😂 into everything

[@globaldesikan]

@@rakeshbarman3486 may be fraud is too harsh. He has his theories and he’s not forcing anyone to believe him. You are free to reject his theories. But he is doing great service by showing us things that we never knew about our own heritage. As for the alien bit, you are free to interpret it your way

[@divyanshuramoul]

this is good stuff

[@challenger539]

Does anyone think Dhruv Rathee's videos will have any effect in voting? Will his master skills of logical fallacies & gaslighting leave any affect? Especially on 18-35 yr old as he's almost a cult leader who earns 20M views per video using Modi's name...

[@aspirant4478]

If you think that's the case, BJP has provided MUDRA Loans to 50cr people. , 10cr Ujjwala gas connection for the very poor 13 cr household got tap water connections in villages. 12cr toilets build to eliminate ODF. 80cr people got free ration. + Add expressways , industrial development etc..... Do you think they care about so called narrative of dictorship.... 20millions is 2cr. Even if you add 6cr. It won't have that of a ground impact.... secondly the views he gets because the left is consolidated....so basically congress and AAP supporters both view his channel. BJP has got numbers for their welfare schemes.

[@AmarBongo123]

​@@aspirant4478 yes if they do hard ground level campaigning through mobilization of local cadres on this issues/schemes and enforce the masses to go out and caste vote from every strata of society then grassroot work (offline) will defeat online propaganda.

[@suprememystic]

maybe 1% or 2% in voting. But his bank account surely have 1000% effect

[@Financeforyou118]

Dude 80℅ of his audience was anyway not a voter base for BJP in my belief Yes 20℅ votes are gone and it's gonna get worse Well what's the solution The intellectual right wing gotta be at the forefront.

[@LavenderAshford1]

It will have a massive influence, considering how I was also manipulated by his videos in the past. After you watch Dhruv Rathee, you'll enter the vicious circle of the 'delusional' left wing. You'll often watch more videos related to how India is nothing in front of Western countries, and you'll sooner get the inferiority complex. The reason why I say this is because I experienced all of these things. If I had not gotten out of that vicious cycle, then I would've voted for Congress and would've encouraged others to do the same.

[@swapnildeshmukh7113]

1:07:20 1:15:06

[@amolaksingh_]

30:47 "Obvious are the most forgotten things"

[@satiready]

I don’t necessarily think that theory of Karma Is for people to be Complacent. As much as I have observed and experienced, it’s basically for you to take responsibility of your own actions. Its a mechanism for any individual to find problems with in themselves instead blaming externel tnings.

[@kumarshivam1234]

But then the things that truly are external, it can pave a way for lack of sympathy in society , considering that the sufferring of handicapped people is justified and any aid provided to them is interfering in the cycle of karma

[@RJD-vm6pz]

​@@kumarshivam1234Nice 👍

[@eternally.skeptical]

Indian society has been very insensitive to lower caste people, lepers because of its obsession with past life and karma ....

[@swapnildeshmukh7113]

1:24:00

[@AmarBongo123]

Can we make the Congress party extinct like what happened to Janata Dal? Like by splitting or other & some other party becomes main opposition? The best way as of now is to reduce them before 40 seats. And the best nail in the coffin would come when they will neither be in power as a single majority party in any state nor the main opposition. Some other parties shall take up the highest no. of seats from opposition like say DMK😂( just saying coz TN has 39 seats). Seeing Tripura, I would even prefer CPIM as main opposition.

[@ReligioCritic]

BJP is more likely to split than Congress. I think the Congress will become insignificant and BJP will break into a Hindutva and a centre right party.

[@ElN246]

Communism destroys a country... Even as an opposition it's too risky

[@Burner__]

You want to end democracy?

[@ReligioCritic]

@@Burner__ Congress has lived his life, now it shall rest. Newer parties, better alternatives need to come up.

[@globaldesikan]

If all players of team B join team A, does team B still exist?

[@deveshmishra3830]

They dont know about chomsky then.

[@asmit4847]

25:00

[@srimanipandey92]

At 00:25 min, it hits me that I, too, justify physical disabilities with children

[@thothininda9084]

Self help consumer are like patients of ED they need help but when they get cured they do not admit that they have it

[@inshivank]

56:39 bro has reached the pinnacle.

[@shiftenter10]

I think Prakhar has potential but he has a lot of prejudiced and stereotyped ways of looking at things

[@rutvikrs]

True. He should reduce his intellect and critical thinking.

[@boss50726]

45:26

[@abhinavkumar3411]

Nice

[@shivammodanwal9411]

44:58

[@bnaiyappa]

I gave this 15 mins. So many sweeping assumptions from the get go. No one checks the other chaps wrong assumption in an attempt to be nice. I mean priests = self help gurus is such huge assumption to make. The Vedas describe priests and their Brahmanas in detail. Maybe over millennia the priestly classes might have become set in their ways but to equate them to self help without defining either self help or the priestly class is baloney. In addition straw man steel man analogies were quite quickly thrown in. Not listening to this lot again.

[@sup9023]

The point went over your head. He is not equating the two but rather drawing a parallel, but go off I guess :)

[@ankitdurgapal2256]

Ye debate kaha se thu

[@harshprajapati5468]

32:18 apj Abdul Kalam

[@harshit73]

❤

[@Boredaf1]

The best criticism of Peterson was done by Hasan Piker

[@sca8217]

Both Peterson and Piker are narrow minded fools on opposite ends of the political spectrum. They have no idea of the world outside of their little American political cocoon.

[@sahilgupta20-t9e]

We need an onlyfans for kushal and prakhar.... lets gooo

[@ElN246]

Only if abhijit gets a cameo😂😂

[@rajivlochan862]

Thank you for justifying your name.

[@deepakpandey2185]

❤‍🔥

[@VikashKumar-kw5ck]

Bharat mata ki jai ♥️♥️♥️🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@kesardogra5529]

Yeee= yemm siii squared

[@FiscalFrontNet]

I 💯 support vashikaran genre. And we are not waiting for an atheist to decide which rituals has to be followed in temples if at all they don't align with science.

[@ज्ञानयज्ञ-श2झ]

"पाप और पुण्य क्या है और इसका फल" पाप हो या पुण्य इसका निर्धारक-तत्त्व मनुष्य या तो स्वयं होता है, या कोई एक अन्य पुरुष। अगर आप अपने लिये स्वयं पाप का निर्धारण करते हैं, तब आप स्वयं उसका फल भोगते हैं। जैसे मानिये कि कोई स्त्री किन्हीं दो पुरुषों से संभोग करके ये मान बैठती है कि उसने पाप किया है, तब वो इसे जीवन भर भोगती है। वहीं कोई दूसरी स्त्री कई पुरुषों से संभोग को न तो स्वयं पाप और पुण्य की श्रेणी में रखती है, न किसी दूसरे को रखने देती है, तब देखिये वह स्वच्छंद स्त्री जीवन आनंद से जीते हुए बुद्धिमत्ता को प्राप्त होती है। अरविंद कुमार जैन गीता सफाई अभियान 11-05-2024

[@kisamehoshigake4201]

Mujhe yakeen hai ki Teri maa bhi aise hi buddhimta ko prapt Hui hogi 😂😂😂

[@sca8217]

Very good point. कर्म के तत्व के बारे में अक्सर यह गलतफहमी होती है कि कर्म के फल कर्ता को भुगतने पडते हैं। यह पूर्ण सत्य नहीं है।

[@awaking_]

kash mein inn uncle jaisa hota

[@theadvancelearning]

these people needs to learn how to frame a debate for naysayers. first explain what "self help" is? then goes on criticize or defend it. pathetic

[@thothininda9084]

Charvaka pravachan😂😂😂

[@nothing21797]

Who is this guy, feel like he fakes things

[@suryasen7]

He is a fraud

[@sca8217]

"psychology is the homeopathy of psychoanalysis." Abbe kya bak raha hai ye?

[@RJD-vm6pz]

Dumb ppl won't get it

[@AMITKUMAR_Hindu]

Prakhar has not understood d meaning of Umma or faced it in real life

[@chrispbacon5027]

Prakhar chhod, Kushal, Abhijit, or Sham ko bhi actual Islamic concepts ka experience nahi hai. They think they have studied Islam. Believe me, they don't understand Islam

[@shaangaming350]

Literally I didn't understand anything , it just felt like two people are showing off their vocabulary or new words made by leftish and using it to show that's its an intellectual debate . See as an iit roorkee student who is a actually a intelligent guy having hold on geopolitics , inversely and blah blah I didn't understand the thought . It felt like prakhar has learned some definitions from books and just uttering in front of him. I can't really expect a normal guy to understand anything out of it . If I am unable to understand than I am sorry 99.999 percent people can't. I am funking learning aeronautical engineering in iit roorkee I didn't find that thing harder than this show off debate . Kushal your monologues are best that's all

[@ArthurLeywin-l6i]

Well quite the narcissism I must say! I would disagree here. I say this is not your cup of tea. The idea's they talk about here are much more personal and target people who have gone through a kind of self improvement or atheistic or kind of self analysis stage in a sense of doubting quite a lot of stuff. I find this episode quite easy to follow and for sure disagree I think Prakhar has some great points to make, his ability to articulate so precisely is admirable. Though I do see his vocabulary might through people off but well he stayed in US for quite a lot of time so of-course his English would be somewhat unique. You being in IIT or aeronautics is of no point here, sure you try to overshadow your insecurity by saying these things but it's like saying well behavioral biology has lots of jargon's and points out of my realm which are really hard to interpret and seem showoff does not undermine the field in anyway. Though I'm pretty sure a lot of people can and will find this content interesting just not you but the right people will.

[@abhay3016]

Well, I agree with the fact that he uses fancy words and intricate sentences to voice his opinions and he might be doing that on purpose or it's just his way of articulating either way, it doesn't 'matter how he wishes to say it's his choice and you being in IIT or pursuing so and so the course doesn't connote that you will necessarily get things that common people don't at least be rational and not be so narcissistic

[@shaangaming350]

@@ArthurLeywin-l6i ok , tell me what you have learned from this debate ?

[@control_the_narrative]

"actually intelligent iit roorkee student" bro is a top narcissist 🤣

[@shaangaming350]

@@ArthurLeywin-l6i from saying I am from iit i wanted to show you that atleast I am not dumb to understand things . ANY PERSON WHO BELONGS TO IIT CANT BE DUMB TO UNDERSTAND THINGS FOR SURE . 2ND) I HAVE FOLLOWED AMERICAN PODCAST TOO , JOE ROGAN AND ALL . AND HELL IT IS AS EASY AS HUMANITIES IN IIT . I HAD NO PROBLEM WATCHING AMERICAN AND EUROPEAN PODCAST , MY VOCABULARY IS GOOD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND LOTS OF THINGS . 3) DIDNT U SEE THAT HE LOOKS LIKE HE MUGGED UP THINGS AND JUST UTTERED IT IN FRONT OF KUSHAL . HE DELIBERATELY WANTED TO LOOK LIKE A INTELLECTUAL , YOU ACCEPT IT OR NOT . 4) OK YOU LOVED THIS DEBATE . SO WHAT THOUGHT YOU UNDERSTAND AND HOW YOU CAN APPLY IT TO LIFE . 5) I RESEARCHED THIA GUY AND I GOT TO KNOW ABOUT HIS CONTROVERSY WITH SOME GUY , AND HERE HE WAS ACTING LIKE A BULLY , SPOILED SON OF RICH DAD WHO JUST. HAVE EGO FOR NO REASON , HE HAS DONE NOTHING IN HIS LIFE BUT STILL WAS ACTING LIKE HE IS ACHEIVER . WHERE IN THAT FIGHT HIS THOUGHT GONE , HIS UNDERSTANDING OF LIFE WENT . WHERE HIS SELF HELP THINGS HELPED

[@globaldesikan]

Prakhar Gupta word salad. You should sell this to make money

[@sup9023]

You don’t know what a word salad is.

[@globaldesikan]

@@sup9023 you don’t know what I know and don’t. Cheers

[@divyasharma9078]

Prakhar has pretty negative views about India and our society. It’s like that NRI guy who demean and disgust his own country.

[@Nonamam]

My bro there are plenty of Bhaarathiyas who shit on Bhaaratha & plenty of NRIs who love Bhaaratha. Entire congress hates Bhaaratha. Why single NRIs out?

[@KabirSoni78]

He’s not demeaning India,every culture has some negative points,he’s just pointing them out constructively.He shits on American culture and way of life a lot as well.

[@NTIS-DHARMIK]

Why r u so insecure

[@adityanavgire]

@@KabirSoni78spot on

[@ElN246]

I don't think he's worked on ground level here. The reality of India differs according state, development level, income level, caste, religion, occupation and many other criteria

[@Lawliet182]

🥱🥱🥱🥱

[@thepalebluedot4171]

Charavakas were worshippers of lord siva.. Its a lie that there were atheists.. A big lie !!!!

[@challenger539]

Study Charvaka Darshan. When Charvaka was there idolatry didn't came. Vedartha distortion happened or started to post-Mahabharat & thinking the distorted one to be true Charvaka condemned it. But he condemned radically good points too but is debunked by Swami Dayanand.

[@thepalebluedot4171]

​@@challenger539 All nonsense there were absolutely no atheists in ancient India, it is all a fabricated lie, everybody worshipped god in some form or the other.. India was a pure vedic theistic country Charavaka atheism is a british fabricated lie.

[@thepalebluedot4171]

​@@challenger539 All nonsense there were absolutely no atheists in ancient India, it is all a fabricated lie, everybody worshipped god in some form or the other.. India was a pure vedic theistic country Charavaka atheism is a british fabricated lie.

[@thepalebluedot4171]

​@@challenger539 Stop lying ! Charavakas were ancient devotees of lord shiva. Its a british fabrication that Charavakas were anti-vedic atheists. There were absolutely no atheists or disbelievers in ancient India, everyone worshipped hindu gods in one form or the other! Stop this nastika atheism lie 😡

[@OmKumar-xd3vk]

​@@thepalebluedot4171proof kya hai , what is the proof?

[@h.k48]

Ye us maulvi k sath jisne ladke ka r@pe kiya nityanand to usk samne kuch bi nahi h.

[@PrinceJha-fz4cv]

Bhai Tere ko pta h na Nityanand India mai kyu nhi aa sakta? He is literally convicted for multiple sexual assualts.

[@h.k48]

@@PrinceJha-fz4cv yes I hate him too. But people generalise all sadhus with him that's what I hare.