I Did A NEW WORLD EXODUS As BYZANTIUM In EU4 Third Odyssey

[@TheRedHawk]

Let me know you want to see part 2! Check out more EU4 Mod Videos here: kzbin.info/aero/PLsO8A6cTBggufIlslDpUdsWukfIeAfp8k

[@hoi-polloi1863]

We NEED part 2! We just got past the Pillars of Hercules, and I already know this.

[@rejemcanal7337]

gimme

[@Jefffrrry]

Yes please!

[@Aleph3575]

Oh yeah, you definitely want to release part 2. You haven't gotten to the really fun part of the mod yet.

[@Lightclaw]

another!

[@Tinnitus1445]

If you take the Ottoman prince you get janisaries. If you take the venetians you get merchant republics mechanics like trade outpost and a merchant estate far quicker. Every thing you bring has all kinds of butterfly effects down the line throughout your campaign. It’s a really in depth mod, easily my favorite.

[@kebeqa5819]

And, if you take silk, you obtain "elysian silk" into Elysium, a New good. If you take knowledge, the renaissance progress into your capitale stats.

[@bigpigeon2384]

I usually take everything but the Greek fire.

[@FalkyRocket2222]

i love venice and its mechanics but honestly has anyone ever used trade outposts lol

[@edgarbm6407]

@@FalkyRocket2222 Yeah dude, I put one in every trade node. Why wouldn't you?

[@Aleph3575]

@@edgarbm6407 It's actually pretty important in this mod because money is pretty tough to come by early game even with the Frontier Pronoia privilege.

[@wirujacy_bagnet1229]

In over 500 years Donaldus Trumpopoulos will say "We're going to build a wall and Spartakon is going to pay".

[@free_boiling4502]

*Donaldos

[@tucoramirez988]

🤣

[@thetruecyrusplayz1256]

and later on during his debate with Kamalos Harrionus he will say "And they are eating the canines!!"

[@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944]

​@@thetruecyrusplayz1256After that debate Kamalus Harrionus will say: Actually building 2nd Hadrian's wall is good idea.

[@idontlikerome2744]

Looks like in this timeline Canad...i mean Vinland up north is gonna be the biggest problem, maybe a new Hadrian wall will be needed in the future to keep those savages in the northern wastes just like the pesky picts of old

[@henryglennon3864]

It'd be funny if the Ottomans declared war on December 11th, thus negating the mod entirely.

[@idontlikerome2744]

The AI polite enough

[@mrkripo6227]

Impossible I think, there is check which dissalows anyone to declare war until the next year in the eu4 if I remember correctly(Or at least till the next month). Paradox made this I think so AI would be able to make an alliances because everything in this game counts in the end of the month

[@porkey3360]

Really goes to show how dire the situation is in Greece when the Byzantines decided to take their chances in Delaware.

[@schad1738]

My favourite part was Albanian New Jersey

[@lavishx_]

truely trying times

[@georgeben3343]

That's why everyone loves Mr. Hawk. Instead of reading a-priori on the mod and making the optimal min-max choices, he makes the absolute madlad call to get Greek fire because it sounds cool. Gotta respect the man!

[@Oujouj426]

Is Greek fire bad now? I last played this mod like 6 years ago.

[@georgeben3343]

@Oujouj426 Yes. Realistically you get only 3 things in the journey with relatively minor suffering. And the others are too valuable to pass. Scrolls help balance out the problem with high mana costs and renaissance spread. Silk can be used to kickstart the economy, fund the war with the Turks and lategame can be the most valuable trade good in the game. The venetians give a faster, and better merchant estate, as well as a very nice monument (Elysian Arsenal) and arguably better naval stuff. In comparison, greek fire gives some nice naval stuff, which depletes until you get a province with Naphtha, some fort stuff, and a shady at best army doctrine with siege stuff, but heavy drawbacks.

[@illreidepagliacci3251]

If you we're to stay Orthodox you would have unlocked a unique type of Christianity callled Elysian Orthodox which you get an event for it, if I remember correctly a few months after the end of Religious Wars disaster

[@thehucklebillyfenn]

Almost every creator I have seen play Lost Odyssey has picked the hellenic path. It makes me disappointed by the lack of variety, but its their choice so it is what it is.

[@BigDelta5403]

@@thehucklebillyfenn i thought i was the only one disappointed by everyone going Hellenic lol its so boring by now

[@alatamore]

This truly is the best of the total conversion mods for EU4. The level of depth, tying choices made in the beginning to the longer campaign is amazing. There are a number of paths that are so different that you have a lot of replay options. The Spartan movement in Mexico and the Vikings in the north give really fun alternatives. All around, it’s amazing.

[@gabrielclark1425]

Eh, Anbennar is better. Certainly #2 though, even if the changes are quite focused.

[@Vracuon]

@@gabrielclark1425 I agree, I played both a lot. Nothing is better than Anbennar, this mod is second or third for sure though

[@Fengxain]

5:07 he’s not just an advisor, you also get janissaries for choosing Orhan. Skanderbeg doesn’t last too long and the natives aren’t that hard to beat without him.

[@tripleg9656]

Plus if you pick Orhan you don't have to worry about Turks mucking up your culture map with colonies like the Albanians do. Also when you get back to the Old World you get a special option to have the Turks that went with you rule the Turks in Anatolia for you. Which gives you some nice bonuses like lowered unrest.

[@unrelevanteireball4538]

I want to see a KZbinr do an exile byz run in vanilla. A couple patches ago that was my strat to escape the ottomans, I would escape to Ireland.

[@Predator20357]

How poetic that the lands where the last of the Romans would flee to, would be the lands they thought of as worse than Britain Or as the great and wise would say: “You could not live with your own failure, where did that bring you? Back to me”

[@SereglothIV]

That sounds sick. I'm gonna do it one day 😃

[@idontlikerome2744]

Isnt this used to be a common strategy for Theodoro runs? No CB East Frisia or someone back in Ireland

[@SereglothIV]

@@idontlikerome2744 Yeah, but it was mainly due to Theodoro's achievement to control all provinces in the German culture group. As Byzantium you're probably better off just fighting the Ottos.

[@idontlikerome2744]

@@SereglothIV always, what a heresy it is to abandon Greece

[@Aleph3575]

4:30 Aight so, what you pick here affects what you get in the New World. If you pick the Venetians, you get earlier access to the Elysian Arsenal a more powerful version of the Venetian Arsenal in addition to Merchant mechanics. If you pick Silk, you get a special version of silk as a trade good for your capital when you do a mission that can be upgraded as the game goes on and becomes more valuable than normal silk. If you pick the books, you get easier access to the New Library of Alexandria which is a very powerful monument that gives you a bunch of tech, idea, and institution bonuses. Taking Greek Fire....gives you a side quest where you have to find new sources of oil in the new world or you lose the buffs. There's a clear which one you should NOT pick lol. Also, the less supplies you have when you arrive at the New World, you will get debuffs to the buff you get that helps you colonize. You don't EVER want to take all 4 unless you have the Sub-Mod that lets you do it with no penalty. The ones I recommend are Silk and Books, with the Venetians as a third choice if you are willing to take on a debuff for having lower supplies. You don't ever want to take Greek Fire because the buff while substantial is periodically unusable and its navy. 8:37 You actually don't want to rival the Powhatan because you can get their land via decision if you have good enough relations with them.. 12:29 You get bonuses if you manage to make it through the disaster with both side still happy. Some more tips for this mod: 1 Lie to the Portugese. Unironically, you want the other colonizers to show up as late as possible to the New World and it will make them weaker when you try to retake the Old World should you choose that path. 2: Take Orhan Celebi. You get some Janissaries AND you don't have to release him as a rump state vassal like you do with Skanderbeg. Having a better general early on does practically nothing in this mod as you REALLY want to be friendly with the natives to start off. Similarly, reject the Vinlanders who want to re-form the Varangian Guard. They'll eventually demand you release them too. 3: Do whatever it takes to maintain Tribal Dev. Unless you want 90% of your provinces to be 2 dev provinces, you don't want to piss off the natives. If they leave rather than assimilate, you lose the majority of dev in any province that has tribal dev, aka everything outside of the first 5 provinces you colonize. There's some estate privileges you can give to the Barbaroi that will help with this, but it will eat away at your crownlands. If you take both that one and the one the Nobles get, you will find yourself low on Crownland pretty often. 4: Delay Spartakon as long as possible. As the name suggests, the Spartan/Aztec larpers have insanely military focused ideas and their religion also buffs their military as well. You on the other hand, have no military ideas or at least, comparable military ideas. And even if you are nice to them, they WILL eventually attack you. So the best thing to do is to race to the Caribbean and declare on them while they are still relatively weak to wipe them out. 5: You want to try and colonize the entire East Coast by the time that the Europeans show up. Once you can get colonial nations running in South America, you become VERY overpowered and can easily fight them off, but if they end up with your core territory in North America, it can be pretty tough to get rid of them. 6: Going Hellenic or remaining Orthodox is up to you but going Hellenic gives you some pretty nice God buffs to choose from. Orthodox eventually becomes Elysian Orthodox later in the game. 7: Don't play in IronMan. This mod has some stability issues later in the game, and it WILL crash, so being able to complete the missions that mess things up via the console is a big help.

[@haraldharaldson1563]

1. Think it's better to be true with Portuguese. You can then have treaty with them which you can't colonize South America, but they cannot colonize north and Carribean, and instantly get Colonization.

[@haraldharaldson1563]

2. You don't need release Albanians. You gave 4 options. If you let them colonize frontier you gain up to 5 provinces colonized by Albanians in event.

[@haraldharaldson1563]

3. I always pick the option which gain you full province as soon as possible in order to overtake other Europeans. I'm not interested in high dev when 90% of provinces are furs or tobacco. 6. Hellenic is better for Quick expansion, but reamaining orhodox allows you to PU some European nations and more easily return to Europe. Also remaining orthodox allows you to peacefully vassalize Spartakon, cause also they remain orthodox. If you pick hellenic then they always will rival you.

[@haraldharaldson1563]

But mod has so many options that i happily hear how others play. Maybe they are better.

[@Aleph3575]

@@haraldharaldson1563 I know its such a great mod. Gets even better if you use some of the Sub-mods too. I actually didn't know that Spartakon stays Orthodox if you do. I always thought they ended up that weird Nahuatl/Hellenic hybrid. Might need to fire up the mod for another playthrough.

[@immaterialthey]

I thought this was some kind of A-Z challenge where you were tasked with fleeing to the new world "like in the third Odyssey mod" and not a straight up showcase of the mod

[@idontlikerome2744]

Just read the title, thought of that as well lol "They got us in the first half not gonna lie"

[@AmirSatt]

It is dope that in roman mythology their ancestors fled from Troy to Italy, then reconquered their Anatolian homeland and became greco-roman, got expelled by turks to America. Let the cycle continue lol

[@marcelo90z]

Making a whole series for this mod would be very fun to watch. There are so many possible outcomes and choices A suggestion would be to try the Elysian Orthodox path. When there is the religious event, instead of becoming Hellenic you can choose to form a new branch of Orthodox faith, and if I remember from the last time I played, there is also a ton of content for them too

[@balintmolnar5153]

I like this kind of alternative mods videos :D SO i definetly wanna see a part 2 :D Keep going!

[@PatrickMetin]

Abandoning your religion was unacceptable. Alexios Komnenos disliked this one.

[@md_studios9819]

I'm sorta trying to make another sub-mod to this that adds another exile nation, wish me luck (I have no experience)

[@namonator7144]

Best of luck soldier 🫡

[@Jeff1999PB2]

King

[@I_want_White_Cheddar_Popcorn]

Who you gonna exhile? OOOOOH GRANADA SHOULD BE THE EXHILE. The last of the muslim Iberians

[@codymustafa5034]

Then you said this just for attention. You're not going to make anything.

[@md_studios9819]

@ not Granada

[@HammerMarc1895]

I would like to see how this plays out, not just part 2 but all parts until the endstate is achieved.

[@noahcopeland8470]

If any of yall are considering playing this mod, I’d recommend adding the Extra Sub-Mod (literally what it’s called), it adds extra special projects, new events, and some extra options that really spice up the gameplay in the New World while you’re slowly snowballing your way to being a threat to the ottomans

[@Win35578]

its way out of date though sadly

[@crimsonmaverick7]

This was awesome, I definitively want to see a second part of this story, i was pausing and reading and it is really captivating, whoever made the mod did a great job at it, man if i had the free time i would be already playing this mod as well

[@sebastianprimomija8375]

The premise of this mod would make a killer video game.

[@nukalegend]

5:50 If you tell the Portuguese where you're going, you get a event later to negotiate a treaty that prevent Portugal from colonizing all of North America. All already established colonies they may have would become uncolonized again

[@kvin96]

Gave this mod a shot after watching. amount of content those guys churn out is astonishing. It got upgraded so much over last time I played Third Odyssey its like a total remake (second one kek)

[@DonPedroman]

I don't know why the devs made the vinlandic guys norse, the people who went to Vinland IRL were catholic.

[@uzbekistanplaystaion4BIOScrek]

rule of cool

[@wotanvonedelsburg1610]

Not really the greenland colony was norse

[@Yes-qj4bi]

@@wotanvonedelsburg1610 did he say Vinland or Greenland?

[@Obloms]

Loved the video and this is a great mod. Definitely continue this one.

[@theoozemen3646]

I love this, this is honestly a really cool mod

[@TeiBeiTube]

this was pretty awesome, i hope you get to do a part 2 and maybe even to Anbennar one day! id love to watch you play that

[@karabunga8088]

can't wait for part 2, third odessey is one of my fav mods.

[@farhad_the_dreamer1619]

They need to make a mod where QQ colonists using the Nadir Tusi Theory going to the New World and converting everyone to Zoroastrian

[@cameronwalters1626]

This mod is cool for sure, but the coolest mod is definitely Anbennar.

[@dashii7431]

Loving the mod videos, keep it up :D

[@balintmolnar5153]

The madnam even more mad! Dont stop here now!

[@Rodq]

Why not to take a gazzilion loans in the start and pay for expedition using them? It's not like creditors are gonna come so far for the money for a long time.

[@kebeqa5819]

I think remember the quantity of gold after the fly is locked. I have try to depreciate Constantinople for gold but alfter the fly, i am get back to original value

[@gabrielclark1425]

@@kebeqa5819 yeah, just use the money for t5 advisors. That’s the only thing that doesn’t reset.

[@hellmad]

Imagine not bringing the silk, all my homies love to bring their silk. But its nice to showcase some other choices, i did not know you would end up with an such a southern expansion opportunity by letting the powhatans live.

[@maximewauters3157]

Part two? Yes please !

[@goldenuni8433]

"the coolest mod of all time" thats still anbennar

[@gabrielclark1425]

True, but a Damerian version of this would easily be considered the best nation ever.

[@Epic24123]

@@gabrielclark1425 that exists, but in Escann

[@gabrielclark1425]

@@Epic24123 yeah, but not with all the neat unique features that Elysium has. Typically Anbennar spreads those out to a bunch of great nations instead of pilling them all on to a singular awesome nation.

[@SCOPEDMADNESS22ScopedMadness22]

I loved this! Would love to see you try new mods!

[@3komma141592653]

Great story telling form this mod right here.

[@Kolsedy]

Going helenic is the most boring thing you can do in this mod.

[@KyZhak]

It's true, brother. Literally every KZbinr does this. And I turn off the video every time at this point. I was hoping that at least there would be Orthodoxy here, but no..

[@truenorth1997]

As soon as he clicked Hellenic I lost all interest in watching any more, it's just going to be the same thing I've seen half a dozen times already.

[@FancyJackKester]

>don’t worship the Hellenic gods for over 1000 years at that point >decide to abandon a millennium of Christianity once you leave the old world Yep, it’s LARPing time.

[@TheWilbaune]

Cant wait for part 2 ❤

[@themightypizzadevourer6018]

Damn this looks fun, i might have to get eu4 man

[@TeeHaa0032]

In the past I used to force religion / vassalize my neighbours. Seemed like the more profitable option at the time.

[@edgarbm6407]

If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled! For you are in Elysium... and you are already dead!

[@zebropl3973]

Just like Britannia in Code Geass.

[@twilighttricksterXXI]

But Roman + No C's World bs.

[@SRWG9001]

God it grinds my gears that people always take the hellenic path

[@donzapatero4808]

Are we doing a spartan run or roman run?

[@TheRedHawk]

Gotta be roman this time!

[@Kazat0pia]

Roman Virginia hah! I knew I was a long lost roman. Time to start speaking latin like my ancestors :)

[@TeeHaa0032]

"Our goal for this video..." : booooo "...For our SERIES of videos" yeah!!!!

[@daxie__3210]

Definitely top 3 mods IMO, if it wasnt for anbennar it would easily be the best no contest.

[@sergeantmajor_gross]

Part 2 please! Okay never mind you abandoned your faith…

[@bobthepro1234]

It's better to tell Portugal the Truth because you can afterwards make a trade agreement and get richer faster aswell as a colonization treaty where Portugal wont colonize North America or The Cariibean just incase you didn't know

[@tscchope]

I think the Albanians colonize the Caribbean if you send them off. You chose to keep them close. i feel you should have allied with one of the Norse nations. You chose not to. You've left the coastal provinces for the European colonisers to colonise. I think they will offer you the chance to become Catholic. Looking forward to Part 2.

[@thegrumpyraccoon]

Gotta love Baldurs Gate 3 spells as gods signs😆

[@losthope5348]

I love this Mod, please make a part 2!!!!!!

[@theseverablekey1928]

My record to click on Your video is set: 10 second

[@TheRedHawk]

I appreciate the support!

[@thomasjunker5415]

Still one of my favorite EU4 mods of all time!

[@maikoen4557]

definitv zweiter Part! Ich liebe diesen Mod seit JAHREN!

[@nurbeinacht268]

Rhomania or Romania, cool nation and national ideas, small mission tree. Maybe do something with them sometime?

[@onodera3964]

Thank you for not using the zoomer subtitles this time.

[@it-will-be-fine]

nice. part II please

[@sprites75]

nice mod. i'll have to try some day.

[@GatunoDeBotas]

when you are so early to the video that the max video quality available is 480p, what the heck lmao

[@revanreborn2548]

YES!!!!

[@luishenriquedelima4528]

Abandoning Orthodox felt insulting :(

[@Walht]

My favourite eu4 mod

[@imperify7671]

my fav eu4 mod

[@tylerharless5153]

Would love to see hawk play anbennar mod

[@vasiliypantsuchenko]

Greek fire is the worst pick. Silk+Books+Merchants is the best choice. Silk gives you a very expensive trading good in your future capital (and you also can spread it on Carribbeans), Books save you plenty of mana and you can build the Alexandrian Library with them much cheaper, Merchants make your Merchants estate stronger (you can take a cheaper loans what is op). Greek fire is useless, because in the New World there are no enemies you can use it on. Vikings suck so as locals. If you take all things, your expedition will appear starving, so I don't recommend to do it. You can develop tech of greek fire when you retake Constantinople, so...

[@notlucas6859]

my favorite mod ever ❤

[@azovianace]

If all the greeks flee to the new world, Who will swim in the aegean in 1920? :(

[@thecritic860]

How do I avoid bankruptcy?!? 😭

[@pitrpetrzelka53]

Take Turkish advisor is better you can get jannisary regiments :)

[@greg6821]

the rp is so fun!

[@datbo1]

I hope you're playing with the extra submod

[@JLAvey]

Shouldn't it be Vinland and Markland? Helluland is supposed to be stone slab land, probably referring to Baffin Island.

[@Epic24123]

Vinland forms after one of the two norse states wins a war between themselves

[@datbo1]

took you long enough!

[@XaleanderS]

PART 2 DADDY WHEN

[@abhinavnair7471]

If the flight to Elyria is the Third Odyssey, and Aeneas's voyage to Rome was the First, what would the Second Odyssey be in this context?

[@jackhallander6706]

The founding of New Rome by Constantine (Constantinople, that is).

[@octavXD]

Should have let the Albanians be semi-independent, they could have colonised for you

[@JohnSmith-pv2qc]

Dont they wind up colonizing areas you are required to hold for the mission tree?

[@octavXD]

@JohnSmith-pv2qc don't think so, I can't remember

[@losisansgaming2628]

huh, neat

[@fruits2013]

Is there any way you can play new world setting while in extended timeline?

[@Nitsirt28]

is it just Third Odyssey or any submods added to it?

[@Ares-rv5cl]

It' also fault of the genoveans!

[@BIGHSM]

Yes

[@AHappyCub]

Silks are way more useful tbh, since you gonna need a lot of money to expand

[@islandmaster5064]

I want ti see the USA formed from the empire 😂

[@Oujouj426]

Does anyone remember what Kauda used to be called in previous mod patches? I remember the name being a bit more cool.

[@Epic24123]

Kyklades? They switch to that once they start colonizing the Carribean

[@kekleon10]

oi oi , continue it please

[@bender42069]

Now do Anbennar lol

[@60tp92]

There is working version in Epic games? (launcher)

[@tylk2368]

The mod makers discord has a manual download for the mod

[@jendreg1935]

Bro converts to Hellenic *Clicks off the video*

[@estebancastellino3284]

👍

[@mainaccount4585]

0:36

[@kalacaptain4818]

"seltz"

[@mainaccount4585]

0:12

[@sirteaplease2331]

Bro fled to america to become pagan and restore the byzantine empire ???😭😭 BRO THAT’S MESSED UP

[@Kurthlin]

A Byzantium that's not Christian?? Ehhh

[@karansjet3823]

How the hell can you butcher famous names like Alexios Komnenos? xD

[@someonesilence3731]

He's an American ;P

[@jrolladarksine8551]

​@someonesilence3731 at least we still call soccer by it's real original name, if everyone else did there would be no confusion on football or the need to call it American football... Besides, it's not like Americans are the only ones who mispronounce shit. The brits can't even pronounce English words properly... Saw is pronounced like sore 😂

[@kaanrivis]

What type of fantasy of Ottomans haters is this mod?

[@Johnsout]

Disliked because you switched religion 💔