I Didn't Know a Laser Could Do This!

[@makeorbreakshop]

Check out it here! Creality Falcon2 Pro 60W - geni.us/creality_falcon2pro_60 Creality Store Link - geni.us/creality_falcon2pro2

[@quintesse]

A comparison between a 60W CO2 and a Diode laser would be awesome!

[@1-Nice-Guy]

Of course on material they can both work with.

[@masco26]

I agree with you

[@makeorbreakshop]

@@1-Nice-Guy yep, I won't do clear acrylic but a side by side on wood/colored acrylic would be a good starting point I think.

[@nickisajev9281]

The comparison should be to a 90w co2 tube, because that would be limited to approx. 70% from the rated tube power, so at about 60-70w. Quite comparable raw power. 60w co2 will be a bit faster, even though it really will be 40-45w power. A 90w cuts 3mm ply at about 50 mm/s at 25 mAh. Quite underwhelming cutting results for a "60w" diode. But it is only the raw cutting speed which can be increased by having a normal compressor. Different variety of lenses will be able to give better results at different material thicknesses.

[@zeroease]

It's great that these companies are getting more and more serious about security and protection, Acmer P3, xtool s1 are very good!

[@makeorbreakshop]

Yeh safety has always been the biggest draw back, love that they are taking it serious now.

[@Sky-Soldier]

I have an Atomstack 48w. It cuts and engraved great. With lasers the real issue is speed- how fast can you cut and move to the next. I believe the continuous improvement on diode lasers will push time lasers down in price. I’m just impressed I live in a time where you can have a laser in your workshop!

[@tlgrimmy]

I've been watching your stuff for years and really appreciate your videos! I always stop here first when trying to learn about new and innovative lasers on the market. I have an ambitious project idea I was hoping to get your opinion on. I'm thinking about building a really large work area diode setup for cutting thin fabrics. These will likely be polyester, nylon, and dyneema fabrics for cutting tent patterns. I will need it to have a 72" usable width for the work area and probably at least 140" length or the ability to easily and accurately index the next section of the cut (floor panels will commonly be 108" long and need straight edge cuts). Due to the crazy size, i'm trying to find a way to make it collapsible, something i could put up and take down easily. Another idea might be to rig it to hang from the garage ceiling and drop down as needed. Hoping to go lightweight and establish rigidity with whatever i set it on for cutting (possibly concrete driveway or lightweight ply base if mounting to ceiling). Lastly, it wouldn't hurt to prioritize speed over accuracy as a cut line within an 1/8" of the intended cut is plenty accurate (no engraving needed with this setup) Any thoughts on how achievable this would be? Not sure how the belt drive accuracy would be at that scale. Also, if you're aware of a smaller machine designed to index quickly/accurately for large prints that you think could work well in this use case, I'd love to hear about it:). Thanks again and care!

[@ksbs5438]

Yes please can you do a comparison of a ~60W CO2 machine to 60W diode. I'm torn between getting the P2 with all the bells and whistles and the Falcon2 Pro 60W.

[@makeorbreakshop]

you got it.

[@ksbs5438]

Also if you do that comparison can you talk about maintenance costs and what typically lasts longer co2 tubes or diodes.

[@scottrelstyle3647]

love to see a 60W side by side, speed and materials please...

[@1-Nice-Guy]

Roly Automation is at least 1-year behind these guys, their 40W MK3 is not scheduled till 1-Qtr. 2025. Nice job Creality!

[@makeorbreakshop]

The Mk2 is still a great machine if you don't need the extra power though.

[@pebbleschan6085]

Is it a good idea to insert a sacrificial black metal liner into the lower tray to protect the tray from being burnt?

[@steventaylor4740]

I would like to see it cut metal

[@aggieaquarist8470]

Yes, please do a comarison with a 60W CO2.

[@makeorbreakshop]

Will do!

[@jmack423]

What watt c02 would you need to cut thicker material?

[@johnjones5676]

I suspect the limiting factor in how many laser LEDs they can cram in these things is thermal. If they can dissipate the heat there's no reason they can't put 20 of them in there.

[@makeorbreakshop]

It feels like we will find out soon.

[@ChaosKuma13]

has anyone used/cut kydex ?

[@janblaauw6345]

Compared to the 60W Lasertree one?

[@makeorbreakshop]

Haven't personally check that one out.

[@mastermaker666]

Should probably finish watching the video before asking this but.... Given that the tray can be removed, does the Z have enough adjustment to make it possible to have a long piece of material inserted in it's place, with the cutting capacity of this larger(stronger more functional) multi-piece projects can be done and you will get a LOT of waste if you have to cut pieces short enough to fit in the machine rather than just feeding in and positioning/flipping(if necessary) a longer piece to maximize material usage and minimize waste? Basically every 'tool made from plywood' vid on youtube with parts small enough........................

[@DoresoomReviews]

If you slide material in through the tray, you can fit a full 24" long piece of plywood into the work volume. The Falcon 2 Pro has sensors that know if the tray is open, so you'd have to spoof it being closed in order to fit larger sheets of material in and cut with half of it hanging out.

[@tahustvedt]

This machine looks l ike something I could use.

[@makeorbreakshop]

It's pretty great!

[@mojado44]

I think manufacturers aren’t going to stop until they hit at least 100W.

[@Ricks2Cents]

*Have you been Under a Rock?!?* 😂

[@makeorbreakshop]

Yep

[@vanessawang77]

From the parameter test values, I feel that the engraving function of this machine is average, and I can't see a suitable engraving parameter. And the wood board has traces of yellowing.

[@makeorbreakshop]

I'll say I didn't fully dial it in BUT the performance with the 1.6W module is really nice, just slow. Also I need to show engraving tests on better material, the normal birch ply is pretty grainy and it's hard to get a good shot of it on camera.

[@billcedarheath387]

That’s a lot of money to spend on something that can’t cut clear acrylic. I’d rather spend that sort of cash on a CO2 laser that gives me the ability to cut materials outside the scope of a diode laser. I own a diode laser. So, this comment isn’t to beat up on them. They have their place in my maker space. You can’t ignore their limitations.

[@zakspop]

$2700.... Nah. I'll pass.

[@RYTHMICRIOT]

Agreed. This is getting close to decent CNC router prices.

[@krisknowlton5935]

Yea, for $3200, I bought a 55 watt CO2 laser with a 20" x 28" bed. Those laser modules must be super expensive to manufacture because the rest of the machine looks like it should come in under $150.00. I think if they put a better collimator lens on the laser module, they could get the spot size down significantly making the beam intensity super high. Then I would think you would be able to cut through ¾" walnut in a single pass with no problem.

[@makeorbreakshop]

@@krisknowlton5935 Planning on testing a 60W in the same price point (ish) to see.

[@krisknowlton5935]

@@makeorbreakshop I will be watching for that video!