I Disagree with Doctors about Posture

[@pochopmartin]

"Doctors say a lot of things but that doesn't mean they've done the research to back up their claims" as a Doctor I can confirm this is 100% true.

[@truthseeker7815]

xD

[@poleve5409]

lmao

[@Kissiehyudo]

Idk why r people surprised about this, it is especially true nowadays when people can just "cancel" you or result in you being fired from your job for choosing not to pretend that a baby for example can come out of a man's pee hole, is it any wonder that you shouldn't jst blindly believe "experts" ?.

[@AimiYossa]

Got any research for that?

[@ralek592]

​@@AimiYossajesus christ

[@ranrhy7196]

Gonna put this in loop while sitting in bad posture because of the smart individual I am.

[@hrodwulf172]

Sick algorithm bro. Your algae is gonna be so rythmic

[@heraldnite]

How's this comment 5 days old when the video is only 2 days old? Like what the heck?

[@ralek592]

​@@heraldnitehe puts his vids on private and people pay him to comment before he puts it on public so they can have more likes

[@unacuentadeyoutube13]

​​@@ralek592no, no ones pays for likes if they don't profit from youtube. They are simply a member of the channel, helping him out finantially and in return they get some little benefits (new videos earlier, exclusive videos, etc.)

[@Saidotricepsu]

@@ralek592lmao why doing that unless you are a youtuber to get more people on your channel ? It’s such a waste of money who cares about you getting more likes on your KZbin comment 😂

[@premedguy2378]

"doctors say" doesn't mean doctors said it. It means people are saying they did.

[@Sentient_Blob]

Yeah social media and traditional media loves to misinterpret doctors and scientists. Even this guy has done it before when trying to sell supplements

[@willguggn2]

But they do. I.e. tell their patients that squats are bad for your knees and one should lift from their backs, instead. There are a lot of myths commonly circulating among doctors.

[@xGotDemFragzJRx]

On the same thought process though, it also doesn’t mean they didn’t say it. It means it’s up to you to really decide if they have or Haven’t. And it’s not really far fetched to say a lot of general health physicians do still believe bad posture is the cause of anything and everything spinally related. Particularly older doctors. My own personal anecdotes obviously don’t mean a whole lot in the grand scheme of this discussion but I had two previous primary care physicians and in my opinion they’re both atleast 5-10 years behind on the current literature surrounding exercise science and in particular injury prevention/rehab. It’s not a myth that a fair portion of general health physicians don’t really know a whole lot about exercise or nutrition. You can find some that do but I would put money they’re younger and more humble about their knowledge and willingness to learn.

[@Idrinklight44]

They are still very uninformed, id say kinda stupid actually. Blinded by money maybe

[@premedguy2378]

@@xGotDemFragzJRx Extremely good points. Thanks for sharing your personal experience. Unfortunately I totally agree with you, and doctors (especially primary care) need to be taught more about exercise and nutrition. I have a hunch that D.O.'s might be better off in this regard than M.D.'s.

[@mateomoreno331]

Those "Wall Slides" forever fixed my back pains 2 years ago. Do it for at least a week, 1 set of 15 on the morning, and 1 on the night

[@lonestarr1490]

Never before did I sweat so much from something done without any additional weight and that wasn't cardio either. Those wall angels are brutal and I can't really fathom why.

[@MyoYoneda]

@@lonestarr1490i am absolutely devastated how bad I am at them wall Angels and how much I feel something’s wrong with my left shoulder doing them. But unlike anything else it feels this exercise could actually fix it?? Because it’s so damn basic and simple and gentle. Please someone ask me in a month for progress… 🥺

[@mateomoreno331]

@@MyoYoneda Cant belive I forgot to mention how humbled I got the first time I tried. I'll remind you in a month

[@Heuwzen]

@@MyoYoneda I actually have been doing it for some time now and even though im not really doing it constantly, it increased the time that i can stay in good posture greatly. Also it created a habit of staying in good posture so i started to get into good posture without really being aware of it. It sure is a great exercise and commonly told to do if you want to fix rounded shoulders.

[@MusclesAreMagic]

@@MyoYoneda The thing David really doesn't go into is that it's the diaphragm that is the main cause of all these problems.

[@WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybody]

It's amazing how clean transition edits brought you this far on youtube. Great work David!

[@Piko5552]

And the unreal flexibility skills that he trained for countless of hours. Yeah they probably had some kind of influence too.

[@carina-nonbinary]

​@@Piko5552 lol fr

[@vanhdesu]

My parents and other adults had always mention me slouching. Ironically, when many of them suffer from back pain, I did not. Many also mentioned that they have stiffness in their shoulders and back, while I feel completely relaxed at all times. My mom specifically said to me my sleeping posture is horrible (when we would still sleep in the same room) because she would wake up and see me "curled up like a shrimp" (that's exactly what she said cuz I can't know when I'm sleeping lol). But on hindsight, maybe the "bad" posture was actually thanks to my back flexibility. From then on, I never cared what anyone says about my posture anymore, as long as I feel good and train sufficiently, nothing else matters.

[@maxwellsterling]

I used to feel weird about bad posture when sleeping because I'd pretty much be extra-slouching and "slouch = bad", so if I curve up even more than I naturally do, that would obviously mean I should be ashamed. Except... shrimping on the bed is comfortable as fuck and it feels like I'm doing an exercise that unrestricts my movement a bit from sitting at home to play games and sitting at work to deliver food on a motorcycle. As it turns out, the solution isn't to stick to the one right posture, but to ensure your body is capable of doing most to all of them. My back hurts because I'm a lazy cunt and don't stretch my arms and barely turn at all, so I'm on the same position for hours a day without changing and, unsurprisingly, being stiff as fuck is not comfortable.

[@akalion213]

Yeah no shit they have more pain than you - they're like twice your age

[@vanhdesu]

@@akalion213 my younger sister and cousins have "good" posture but has back pain as well

[@windws7137]

Same, u was told I'm slouching but I've never experienced back pain

[@turtleanton6539]

Indeed. Gow Metallica of yoy😊

[@AntCrazyy]

Hmmmm intelligence 9999 or an inch or two of added height to my Kevin Hart sized stature…

[@MovementbyDavid]

OOF honestly I respect the choice

[@Cellyestial]

It wasn't actually stated that you gain 9999 Intelligence with bad posture, rather that having so much intelligence or having -2 both don't correlate to the posture that is being used

[@shaydesofblue2281]

​@@MovementbyDavidBro, can you create a workout flex program.

[@EgzoDiuse]

L Lawliet approves

[@Ken_neThT]

​@@Cellyestial ironic, you're explaining the subtext of that bit of video while completely missing the subtext of the comment you're replying to LMAO

[@inclra]

I really love this longer but still "bite-sized" video. It gives more details on the exercise and the scientific explanation behind it. Hope to see more of this kind of content instead of short videos!

[@dawiddulian2403]

The L from 'Death Note' was doing it right all along 📓🖋️

[@prolepsis-hx8om]

LOL literally me

[@user-gg8tl5yt7d]

*collective autistic sigh of relief*

[@ruckaf6310]

LOL "The"

[@MayBlake_Channel]

Lol! I love that man

[@spiraldj]

LOL! lol

[@daddyerwin5097]

Hi David I just wanted to thank you for making your videos. I've had back pain in the past and I've always attributed it to the fact that I was hunching my back frequently due to studying. But since I've watched your videos, movement and stretching has become a daily habit for me (not even in the form of training sessions but rather movement throughout the day) and I've never felt any back pain since then! We often say poor posture is due to hunching but it's really just because our bodies are stiff from the lack of movement! Thank you so much! Stay flexy sir :-)

[@MovementbyDavid]

Sounds like you don’t even need to watch the video! I appreciate you and I’m so glad you’ve had success with your back!

[@rijorajan9657]

​@@MovementbyDavid Pun intended or... 😅

[@Dead25m]

It's almost like with bad posture, people mean keeping your body in a strained position for extended periods of time. Proper posture alleviates the strain meaning you can hold that posture for longer without issues. Literally no doctor will go "just sit correctly", they'll always point to an agile lifestyle in some way.

[@nevin8604]

Dude bad posture is from bad posture. Sure movement is necessary but bad posture has nothing to do with movement. You can be the world's best athlete and still have bad posture. Posture is about consciously determining how to sit/stand, so that all the weight load goes directly to the bone without putting tension in the muscles. If you think bad posture is benign, then you need to think again, all haw problems and orthodontic problems have posture as one of the root cause

[@nevin8604]

​@@MovementbyDaviddude you are so off with this video, because bad posture is very bad for our health. You should research about how posture influences oral posture and how the jaw moves. If you don't have perfect posture, that's a recipe for orthodontic problems. Sorry to say this, but you yourself has a recessed face, exactly from bad posture.

[@ByeBaybe]

sit in an office for ~10 hours a day, has unexplained back pain, doctor uses least offensive explaination. when in reality our bodies need movement throughout the day. didn't own a car for 3 years and walk 6 miles a day, zero back pain. almost like my body got stronger.

[@jansteyaert1]

My herniated disks disagree tho. But I don't think any "real" doctors and PT's suggest to focus on posture all the time. Take me, I have back issues, my physical therapists said: "focus on good posture every half hour." Doing this just makes you aware of having a decent posture, but you take on a more natural posture after 5 minutes. For people who have a job that requires them to be sitting the majority of the time, this matters a lot (especially if you don't work out/exercise at all). Actually, the best thing to do, if your boss allows it, is to get up and walk around every 30 minutes. It's more the sitting than certain postures that is the issue.

[@batatanna]

Changing your posture every time also helps. It's actually worse to be in the "correct posture" for too long.

[@chadkayser]

In my experience, sitting at a a desk seems to lead to stiffness (as he said at 2:35). When I sit at a desk for a long time I usually I need to shift in some significant way, like putting my leg under me and leaning forward. Eventually that no longer works, and nor do its variations until I've squirmed to a point of needing to get up. Or maybe try to sit on the floor or lay down somewhere to allow even more release. I avoid using a conscious effort to control my spinal muscles, as it only causes me discomfort. I think if my mind is telling my spinal muscles to hold a position, then they can't adapt to the slight shifts in my body weight, and in relation to how I'm sitting. I think those tiny problems add up, imposing unnatural strain on certain muscles because I'm telling them "straighten up" when all they want to do is adapt. I've, consequently, never had back pain (except for a few days once because I was really overeating--dunno exactly why). In my experience, if changing to what you believe to be "good posture" doesn't immediately relieve the discomfort, then it's not worth doing. But I'm glad he's making these claims because, like it or not, most people use TV as their doctor, meaning it's accurate enough to say the doctors are doing 'em wrong, even if it's more the media is. And I think what I just told you puts an end to the need for many chiropractic practices.

[@georgewinchester6403]

"if your boss allows it"

[@batatanna]

@@georgewinchester6403 which translates to never or I'm the boss' family

[@ReneeB-mz9cx]

Surprisingly, herniated disks also arent the cause of pain.

[@swigswag1639]

As PT its honestly frustrating how many physicians in orthopedics (unfortunately also younger docs) refer patients with the task to "improve posture" even tho there isnt any real evidence for the whole "posture thing" like you pointed out- thanks for the video!

[@jarofbees7259]

My posture "corrected itself" when I got PT for my hips. It just came naturally once those muscles weren't locked down anymore. Coming at it from the angle of fixing posture is, apparently, shallow, but if you have a hard time maintaining proper posture it could be a symptom of something more, something worth addressing for all the other aspects it impacts.

[@swigswag1639]

@@jarofbees7259 definitely! But making a problem out of something that isnt is something that should be avoided

[@frostedflakes55]

You should get a refund on your degree because all you need to look at are people who have great mobility to see they almost always have great posture. Look at any flexibility/mobility based sport or activity and you will find people with great posture that they WORKED for not that they were born with. Dance, ballet, gymnastics, yoga, tai chi, taekwondo, karate, and many others are all proof of this. The TRUTH is people don't want to do what it takes to get where they want to be from where they are.

[@swigswag1639]

@@jarofbees7259 definitely, but making a problem out of something which isnt („bad posture“ especially when the people with it dont have any symptoms) is really frustrating

[@swigswag1639]

@@frostedflakes55 nah im good + what you said doesnt really have anything to do with what ive written, but yeah might try to get my money back wouldnt hurt BTW mobility isnt always the answer, can help some people, might worsen other peoples symptoms, performance (and yeah i know that this is a mobility biased community)

[@joostdegoede1519]

The most wholesome way to bring evidence based practice to posture, also as a physical therapist genuinely disappointed in the widespread nocebo claims regarding posture from so many medical professionals. Keep this content up!

[@Volkbrecht]

I think they mix up cause and effect. Strong, muscular people do look like that, because that is how muscles settle around our skeleton, even in resting state. But unless one has those thick muscles, posturing to pretend they are there just produces another kind of tension that over time leads to shortened tendons and all the bad things that come with those.

[@LARISSA.KAY.]

Do you have any articles or studies that are legitimate enough to show doctors why I don’t care to “fix” my posture? My posture looks bad but if I force myself to have attractive looking posture it gives me more neck and upper back pain

[@joostdegoede1519]

​@@LARISSA.KAY. They are already mentioned in the video :)

[@totally_not_a_bot]

​@@VolkbrechtI do calisthenics and occasionally lift, and strong posture very quickly becomes mandatory to prevent injury. You need the spinal structure so you don't tweak stuff and wind up in serious pain and/or the hospital. I happen to also have basically perfect standing posture.

[@nevin8604]

If you think those are nocebo claims from medical professionals, then you are the medical professional who don't know anything about posture. Posture is relevant obv as our spine is designed to bear load in one way and one way only. Not slouched, not with kyphosis, not with lordosis, no but with the natural curve of the spine. The way how you deadlift is how you should sit or stand or do anything. Posture is also important in all body functions, from promoting good blood flow, to cranial pressure to jaw misalignment to maxilla recession etc etc. This guy did the video without knowing it himself and you are no better.

[@RedFenceAnime]

Wow this video is crazy good. The transitions, the information, the added effects to make directions clearer, how your voice doesn't get muffled while you move so much. Thanks for making it.

[@light2677]

I love the greenery in your videos💚. you motivated me to start streching again and i am now way more flexible than i was before

[@TurdBoi-tf5lf]

What people dont understand is that the problem isn't "bad posture", it's the lack of movement. If you stay in the same posture for hours and hours even if it's "good posture", you'd experience back pain. Being physically active is important. Great video David

[@tekeyia9279]

Yes, the spine should naturally have those curves. The "bad posture" creates muscle weakness, and it hurts when you suddenly try to change up your posture because now you're using muscles that are used to being in their shortened or lengthened form and these muscles are pulling on the bones. There's upper cross syndrome and lower cross syndrome; you can have both. Easy to fix with stretching and exercise, unless you've spent most of your life like this and the issue is now the bones and not just muscle. How easy it is to fix depends on if it is functional or structural.

[@dienudelpfanne600]

"posture doesn't make you that much more attractive" It definitely does. You can't tell me a person with hyper kyphosis is as attractive as a person with a normal spine.

[@bangtansadorablemc]

💯

[@frostedflakes55]

Facts 💯

[@pyropulseIXXI]

And for girls, having lordosis looks way better than a girl with a straight back

[@gargoyled_drake]

Now let's just for the fun of the experiement say that the person with the "normal" spine is a person who clearly lacks empathy, they are very into them selves and has an amazing gift of not noticing other people, as they are hyper focused on them selves and what they them selves do. And the person with hyper kyphosis is a person who's characteristics are almost build around their extreme empathy. They work as a nurse for elderly and do vulanteer jobs for the hospitals. Who is the most attractive now ? Do you see what he means now ? the posture dosn't actually change how attractive you are, because that is all based on WHO you are, not HOW you are holding your self or your posture.

[@buddybrick]

Let assume they are the same person same quality but one has a good posture. The good posture will look more attractive anyday to anyone anywhere ​@@gargoyled_drake

[@anitachamberlain3391]

You're one of the most unique KZbinrs I've come across. Not only are your videos helpful, but the layout of them is inspring. Thanks for doing what you do. Also, if you're not doing circus/acrobatic performing art on the side, you absolutely could. Your coordination is Insane.

[@jarlsparkley]

To me, “improving your posture” is really just a fancy way to say “strengthen your transverse abdominis, your glutes, and your quads while opening up your shoulders, hamstrings, and hip flexors”, and I feel like the exercises you’re recommending prove this. And I guess it seems weird to suggest that doing these things can’t help you resolve back pain.

[@nevin8604]

No dude,improving posture is about the way you stand/ sit. It has nothing to do with strengthening muscles ( maybe a little bit). Your posture determines your face, your blood flow to the brain etc.

[@jarlsparkley]

@@nevin8604 go to your physical therapist and ask them to help you improve your posture and they will literally have you do exercises that do all of the things I just said on a regular basis

[@jarlsparkley]

@@nevin8604 in order to maintain good posture you need to make sure that all of the muscles I just named are sufficiently strong and opened up. and the more time you spend with bad posture, the weaker and tighter these muscles become. and in order to regain good posture, you have to take the time to strengthen and stretch out these muscles.

[@HappilyAnonymousGirl]

This stuff really works!! I had kyphosis from when I was unemployed, and extremely sedentary due to depression. This exercise fixed it, and now I’m working on stretching the front of my hips and strengthening my glutes and hip flexors to get rid of my severe anterior pelvic tilt. It’s made a HUGE difference in how my body looks and feels! I’m so glad to see you sharing this stuff with us. It’ll help a lot of people ❤ Also, I have lordosis and that back stretch feels amazing. Thank you

[@rubenirrelevante1817]

Have you found anything for anterior pelvic tilt you would recommend others?

[@mrashford122]

I want to see this. Hopefully I won’t have forgotten about it in two days.

[@MovementbyDavid]

I’ll comment so you remember! 😂

[@mrashford122]

@@MovementbyDavid what a hero, guaranteed il be back now.

[@MovementbyDavid]

@@mrashford122 I’ll reply one more time for good luck. 😂

[@JohnMkrv]

Hey man

[@DecisiveHard]

Save it to a playlist!

[@NoleJoker]

I will wait here for 2 days

[@MovementbyDavid]

I will too

[@Seeyouspaceluna]

Samesies

[@lonestarr1490]

This is your reminder that 2 days have passed.

[@zLeSshuhn]

did the same

[@marg7845]

So, mule parking?

[@shaestarkyy]

I *never* comment, but I just gotta say I love your videos & your energy. I'm in a rut & feeling blue & for some reason, regardless of content, your videos make me feel better. So thank you for sharing your knowledge & self with the world. 💓

[@jamesgraham3789]

there is so much intentionality in the editing, cuts, and script of this video and it’s incredibly impressive

[@MacRoss44]

I have to wonder if any pain one might feel that is usually attributed to bad posture has more to do with simply being in one position too long, regardless of what that position might be. It could also be strain due to lack of stabilization in general.

[@nvmffs]

It matters what the position is actually. Lying on your bed isn't likely to cause you any pain until your skin starts literally rotting, of course, but that has little to do with movement/lack thereof. Lack of stabilization comes from lack of stabilizing muscles and since bad posture is usually the result of weak muscles + lack of kinesthetic sense, it's fair to say there is a correlation here.

[@MacRoss44]

@@nvmffs I wish lying in bed without moving wasn't painful. I think you have very different back and hip concerns than I do. 😅

[@nevin8604]

No it doesn't matter if you sit in one position too long as long as you sit in the perfect posture. Because apart from what David might have said in the video from his ignorance, posture is really important. He just doesn't know much about posture, that's it. Our spine has a natural way to bear load. Only one way.

[@nevin8604]

​@@MacRoss44lying in bed isn't supposed to cause you pain, like not a bit. You are either lying in bed like a shrimp, or your mattress is too much cushion and not sturdy enough, or your head pillow doesn't have much height or your joints are just bad to begin with. You are supposed to sleep in one posture, the perfect posture for your entire sleep.

[@MacRoss44]

@nevin8604 I was struck by a car going 45mph while I walked in a crosswalk when I was 18. It caused chronic pain that is improved with consistent physical therapy and specific exercises, but I am never not in pain. Pregnancy and age exacerbated the pain, too. It is made much worse by being still for any long period of time, regardless of the position.

[@channelnummer5493]

Health Professor h.c. David, you are absolutely great! I`ve just tried the first exercise (elbows on the wall) and I feel improvement in posture after just two minutes! Incredibly sane!

[@FoxGhost7]

I belong to the "that's just not true" camp. Ask any weightlifter if posture doesn't matter. It's a great way to quickly ruin your back. Plus when you are still young, it really doesn't matter in terms of pain. And pain comes more from stiffness. But herniated discs? Plus also hanging neck when you get older becomes really stressful on the muscles which are in a constantly stretched position. And they tire out and stiffen up and boom, neckpain. Trust me on that.

[@TallicaMan1986]

Yeah with a lot of these fitness guys, I tend to ignore most of what they say if they aren't 40 and over. Got recommended some guy getting his protein with Dino nuggets, pepperoni and cheese. Of course dude wasn't over 35 yet to not know how bad sodium feels for a lot of older folks. Basically they're young and don't even realize it yet. I'm only 31, but I know better.

Oh you should look into superior cervical instability and vagal nerve compression even in the absence of pain

[@zLeSshuhn]

And after this video I couldn't love you more..Don't get me wrong I'm exercising and actually making progress..but this is really comforting to hear

[@Mogz-hd]

the way this video is choreographed is honestly so incredibly inspiring as a fellow youtuber. Such a beautifully constructed piece of content well done David

[@charli4815]

me having Lordosis with very bad pain, went to hosptial, didnt find anything, went to the gym, fixed my posture, pain gone :D

[@ghostofakina8747]

It was probably your lack of movement

[@user-he4ef9br7z]

Strengthening and enlarging muscles gives support to surrounding structures.

[@TheShizzlemop]

increasing ur range of motion and strengthening your stabilizing muscles is really important. i had crippling chronic had back pain for over a year until i decided to try exercises for my lower back, it greatly improved the issue within a month. i would be cautious to attribute your pain reduction to fixing your posture. getting stronger ALLOWS you to hold a posture for an extended period of time, which reduces strain on your joints. the root cause is typically just weak stabilizing muscles causing fatigue which causes the joints to turn into the weight bearer, which over time causes damage/pain. i cant say for sure that your posture was related or not, but i do know that it would have to be extraordinarily terrible for it to have made a comparable impact to fixing a lack of joint stability. it is most likely that your posture "got fixed" simply because your muscles became strong enough to hold yourself upright for longer periods of time, without shifting weight onto your joints, and that the postural change isnt why your pain is gone, but the stability you gained that allows you to hold said position.

[@coolbeans5911]

​@TheShizzlemop may i ask you which lower back exercises you did? I'm having a lot of lower back pain recently and would love to know which exercises are nice for stiff newbies lol

[@pyropulseIXXI]

Lordosis doesn’t cause any pain. This girl had crazy lordosis but she was very active and mobile and flexible and never had any pain She was also an amazing dancer

[@Stratocaster42]

Youre such a wonderful, positive force in the world, David. Im so grateful that you share all of this with us :)

[@R3LAPZE]

I've never been in more pain then when I was attempting to create "good" posture

[@MusclesAreMagic]

That's because when you're compensating using other muscles to try to "fix" the posture to look "normal" you're not relaxed. You should be able to be relaxed in all and any position and focusing on diaphragmatic breathing is the key.

[@mildredgh1791]

For real, was a week in bed cause everything hurted, and also the nerves of my arms gave me weird sensations, cause they didnt slide properly in the new neck to hand distance. Did some exercises for that and i recovered. Then i was able to move forward. Took around a month to feel better and just focus on the exercises. But it will take years to correct it. The trapezius was too thick and short. Been doing 90 degrees shoulders workout.

[@VillainViran]

Hurt ​@@mildredgh1791

[@ohhmann9045]

Bro that means you did the right thing

[@R3LAPZE]

Nah cuz I was forcing myself into extension unnecessarily

[@klank3760]

Hey David, I just wanted to tell you I appreciate you putting up all this information you’ve gathered as well as a multi-week program for free on your website. I’ve just downloaded it and I’m gonna begin working on my flexibility this week, when I was a kid I used to be able to grab the bottom of my feet with my palms, these days I can’t even poke the floor with the tip of my fingers and im 19…

[@elordyy]

I agree that back pain can definitely be attributed more to stiffness than posture. My back hurts when I've been hunched over a desk all day not because I'm hunched over, but because I've been sat at a desk all day. I find my back also hurting after I've been stood upright for a whole day. It's all about keeping your body moving and avoiding being sedentary. (That being said, I do think poor posture is unattractive as it is possibly associated with said sedentary lifestyle)

[@frostedflakes55]

But the stiffness comes from poor posture or inactivity as you mentioned

[@elordyy]

@@frostedflakes55 I feel it's more a result of remaining in a certain posture for a long amount of time, not the posture itself

[@tacitozetticci9308]

@chrisallmaras1463 yeah there's a reason why there's a "default posture" in humans: that's where your spine is the most stable. That's where kids will naturally go before life starts weighing on their shoulders lol. Even if it isn't directly related to back pain, it's gotta be related with risks of injury.

[@anomaly3215]

so something that is entirely subconscious most of the time is unattractive to you? wow that's selfish, try thinking a little deeper

[@elordyy]

@@anomaly3215 picking your boogers and eating them is mostly subconscious yet kids do it all the time, are you attracted to them?

[@ohhmann9045]

This is the first video ever I've seen from you and five seconds into it, I fell in love with your character

[@jschwaitz]

2:34 This resonates with me so much. Took way too long to realize that hyperfixating on good posture was causing discomfort

[@daddyerwin5097]

For those of you who haven't watched his other videos make sure you are comfortabld with deep squats and hang on a bar for a few minutes daily cuz your shoulders ankles and hips also play a role in how good or tight you feel with your body! Thanks for the video sir!

[@meganthearchitectbrown6912]

You are one of the best people I sub to. You are helping me so much more than words convey. DAVID, THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOURSELF WITH US!

[@SantiagoDoroSanti]

Thank you, your channel is great. I went to many doctors for back pain as a teenager, as well as physiotherapy. None of them worked. After searching a lot on the internet, I found 'Global Postural Re-education' (GPR), which is based on stretching. 'Stretching' is what no doctor or physiotherapist told me about for many years... It's definitely what ended my back pain... even if my back hurts: running and stretching... goodbye pain...

[@SigmaXcelsior]

Watched it live!! Amazing!!!

[@VioletBlackKey]

I love your energy and knowledge! It also so clear that you really want to help people get better and healthier.

[@frostedflakes55]

Not sure how it's possible for bad posture to not be correlated with pain. In my experience it most certainly and obviously is. Its just math really, staying out of alignment for extended periods of time literally just puts more pressure on your joints and muscles which can lead to chronic discomfort, pain, and a million other bad things. That's why your videos are so helpful to so many people. No shade on your well done video sir ;)

[@TurdBoi-tf5lf]

Again, bad posture was not the reason for pain, but staying in the same posture was. If you stay in good posture for extended periods of time, it will cause pain too

[@maximkuryachiy6082]

Insane quality on this video! Informative, short and a good amount of motion on the screen to keep attention ;)

[@kaidomaru3766]

2:48 The chest mimic seconds before reducing my hp to zero

[@Kudagraz]

man this dude blew up. good for u man. inspiring

[@Frozen_Death_Knight]

Posture does matter if you want to reduce fatigue and stiffness for muscle groups and reduce joint issues. As a digital artist I have had multiple tablets, one with a screen and others that don't have it, and I can tell you that sitting with my head leaning over my Cintiq screen gave me nasty neck pains that disappeared completely the moment I stopped using the screen portion and looked straight by looking at my PC monitors with a balanced head on my neck. Certain poses and movement habits hurt a lot more than others for prolonged work sessions over the course of years, so being mindful of how you use your body will reduce those issues as you grow older. That being said, switching between different postures and stretching help reduce those issues. Moving around a bunch like when exercising helps a lot with making you less prone for injury, but you can still hurt yourself if you aren't careful like with your workload. I've hurt my shoulder that took a few years to fully heal because I was using too much strength when I was working as a cleaner at a gym and needed to use a vacuum cleaner on very dirty floors, which didn't help as I was doing upper body exercises in my spare time as well. My dad got massive joint issues while working with transferring cargo at the airport, which have had really bad consequences for his physical health after his retirement. To conclude, posture does very much matter if you want to have a healthy body. You don't have to be stiff as a board to have a healthy posture, but certain postures help more than others, whether it's sitting at a desk, doing exercises, or physical labour. Having variety, exercising, and stretching are important for achieving it. As for your outward appearance, posture does very much matter for how you are being perceived. We are all built to read body language and dismissing it would be to your own detriment.

[@nevin8604]

Dude the guy in video doesn't know anything about posture. Posture is important from development of face to function of the brain to teeth etc etc.

[@dressyfiddle3946]

Neck pain and back pain are not coming from posture but from staying in same position for a long time. That makes your disks in the spine adjust to your "usual" position and it will twist your spine to support the new position your in. That is what will cause the pain, to counter you just need to change position from time to time.

[@crazzykai]

1:25 Dudes back is *crunchy*

[@6781spirit]

As a person actually working with real people - I can definetly say that smartphone and notebook usage correlates with back and neck pain. People working infront of a PC not only have worse "posture", but struggle through pain more often. Also, people laying on bed with phone - have the worst pain. Same thing I can tell about those driving a car alot. Also a tall posture positively correlates with serotonin baselines and that is not only a quality of life improvement, but also a way to reduce nociception

[@B33Ys]

You put so much effort in this video talking about scientific evidence, yet you don't show that your conclusion is derived from all the quality data. Going from "doctors say" to "influencer says". Not a trustworthy claim.

[@eternaldreamerofsleep]

I really agree with this. Kinda made me realize how gullible one can get…

[@sherylmarshall1444]

Yes I do believe you but please post your sources thanks for all your videos

[@catoninetails789]

For example, there was no evidence presented for "posture doesn't matter too much for attractiveness".

[@bebbyj]

i have personally heard doctors say this (to me). he doesnt need to provide "quality data". hes not in the same position as a doctor where you pay for help from an official

[@hyperkun]

yes as per usual, typical youtuber bs where they cant do proper research they should watch Think Before You Sleep

[@kushendarmopratomo]

I see balance as the key to everything. Not less and not excessive, but in the middle. Fair, Putting things in place.

[@andrewsmyth1652]

Always watch. Always take notes. Always positive impact on my life. I'm a 45 year old active skateboarder that broke my back in my early 20s and I know all about not trusting doctors.

[@licensetochill4992]

David could you mayhaps do a little short on some stretches one could do that are most important for people who work sitting down all day? I've checked a lot of your vids but it'd really help out if you had a lil' comprehensive package for back and hips together. Thank you for all the work you put in to make all of your content! 🙌

[@3D1ofakind]

So it's not about forcing yourself to have "good posture" which can cause stiffness and more pain, but instead it's getting off your ass and moving around in all your motions 😮

[@spoopyidk]

true

[@pyropulseIXXI]

Having good posture is better because it looks better. Being stiff means you have bad posture and are doing it wrong Good posture doesn’t cause stiffness. Being stiff causes stiffness

[@fortnight5677]

@@pyropulseIXXI People forcing their "good posture," causes stiffness, or you look stiff. That's the point. The video literally tells you healthy / unhealthy posture doesn't exist and "good" posture simply comes naturally if you are doing sports, exercises, work out etc.

[@fortnight5677]

​@@pyropulseIXXI And good posture depends on the person as other people pointed out, lordosis is the "good posture," for women while it's the "bad posture," for men.

[@pyropulseIXXI]

@@fortnight5677 healthy posture is what looks aesthetically pleasing

[@YevhenRawrs]

David Thank you This is the greatest educational short film I've possibly ever seen This feels appropriate for high-schools, perhaps in a sports med course ?

[@juancena1259]

My head being forward puts my hips out of alignment, makes my shoulders tight, and just hurtts so yeah i do posture exercises on the regular. Also I'm a short king so anything helps.

[@delianhdz3616]

i had this problem almost all my life but recently i finally fixed it and i can tell you what he says in the video its partially true, those exercises will help you but just for a short time and you will come back to your bad posture if you have weak back muscles. that is why you should focus in exercising your back and neck in the gym using weights in order to make the muscles stronger and being able to hold your back straight without even thinking about your posture.

[@heroprotagonist007]

Someone with perfect posture gaslighting you that you don’t need to fix your pain inducing bad posture

[@GhibChib]

David I’ve been dealing with a genetic condition that causes hyperkyphosis, and the information you’ve provided in this video is not only super helpful, but motivating as well!! Thank you so very much 😄

[@LovelySharkHero]

2:20 jumpscared me

[@john99bg]

Hello David, Thank you for the presenting such educational information in such a simple and easy to understand manner! Truly helping a ton of people out there. I hope to one day be able to shapeshift like you

[@DrBreyn]

3:36 looks like I'll dislocate my shoulders

[@fulicious2991]

As someone extremely conscious about my curvature... Thank you

[@lucasalviani3756]

3:51 i think this man can do some intresting things when he is alone 🤔🤔

[@nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo2795]

NAWWWW

[@TurdBoi-tf5lf]

Uh oh

[@Spyro-kt8gy]

JESUS WEPT!

[@councilmandoug305]

Really appreciate this..much better advice and cues than I had gotten from thousands spend at multiple physical therapists

[@glorytoarstotzka330]

to be fair, you don't disagree with all doctors. if you look up E3 rehab, the doctors from there, they agree with what you're saying in terms of good posture

[@hefeibao]

Well, the production quality has certainly gone up over the years, but one that that hasn't changed is how good the content is. Just do what the man says. The hardest part? Starting!

[@kamalverma4641]

We'd have still watched without waiting

[@MovementbyDavid]

I’ve never tried the premiere feature before! If you prefer I just uploaded it maybe I’ll do that 😂

[@1BubblePop]

@@MovementbyDavidI believe the premiere feature pushes the video out more?

[@MovementbyDavid]

@@1BubblePop we shall see I guess

[@1BubblePop]

@@MovementbyDavid yeah

[@transformationtimenow3321]

Your audio is bangin', Sir! This is truly a brilliantly produced channel! Commendable! Enjoyable!

[@thelastonequesqueca8982]

I was a fan of this channel, but titles like this really get to me, and just for click bait. I know most reading this won't care, but where I am, doctors are at a breaking point. We get punched at work, verbally abused constantly amidst dealing with high stress environments, and the general culture of 'doctors are one homogeneous thing that it's trendy to say are wrong about everything' when that's clearly not the case just eggs people on to treat doctors like absolute shit. I know in the US they get paid a lot, much less where I am, but I don't think the public knows a tenth of the kind of abuse we have to deal with, the suicide rates, and how much the media has egged up the idea that literally every doctor is gaslighting all patients, is out to get them, is lying to them. What they don't see is how individual each doctor is, how many literally break themselves working to be able to provide life saving care and often do successfully, but nowadays are only met with a torrent of abuse that is just perpetuated by this trend of 'all doctors are wrong, I am right'. Please, before perpetuating this, think what you actually know about what this homogeneous entity called doctors do and consider the amount of abuse they face at work often riled up in social media by thoughtless titles like this

[@AB-dz7lo]

What kind of doctor are you?

[@maciejgrabowski2228]

I used to slouch and I had back pain. When I forced myself to fix my posture it felt bad and unnatural. But then I got used to it and now I don't have back pain. I don't even exercise that much. So yes posture does matter, and I'm speaking out of personal experience.

[@ReneeB-mz9cx]

4:14 not the booty shot 😂

[@snowscape]

Man it's unbelievable how cool a content creator you are. You consistently surprise me with how inspired or educated I end up after seeing you in queue. You occupy a niche that I don't have much creativity in, so it's astounding to see you keep creating cooler and cooler stuff!

[@cheeseheadwizard]

The grabbler posture vs chad's posture

[@MovementbyDavid]

Boxers too 😂

[@ybabts]

It's very fun to listen and watch you, keep it up!

[@EpherosAldor]

This is some surprising information, if accurate. I'm not familiar with the peer literature but I understood that the "text neck" is a thing you get from books, tv, and using "that damn phone". When you are letting your head dangle forward to read a book or phone then you forcing neck muscles that are extended and trying to keep an 8lb head in a strained position for a long period of time. So whether you sit for long periods of time and you collapse your posture, let your head hang over your chest instead of on your shoulders, and remain in postures that are constantly curved, like sitting on a couch, butt forward, spine rounded, head up, then you cause the muscles in your neck and spine to change and adapt negatively to those compromised positions. These are some great exercises though, and there are a few others to add, especially weighted ones to build up stabilizer strength and good posture support, such as pushups and face pulls. I'm definitely gonna start adding these to my routine.

[@SikGamer70]

As he says in the video, doctors like to say a lot of things. The especially bad ones *love* to make up hypotheses about medical conditions but not actually test those hypotheses. The whole "looking down too much causes text neck" is one of these untested hypotheses (well, it has been tested - by actual scientists - and results are: no, smartphone use has no correlation with chronic neck pain.)

[@devanarayananvinu3944]

Thank you for this video !! I agree on the fact that good posture doesn't make you that much attractive. But people tend to notice it and call you out on it which makes you feel insecure as hell. I'll be trying this out

[@link_x2979]

Bad posture when i was kid earned me a scoliosis in my spine (i would sit leaning to one side, now my spine bends where it shouldnt). If i dont do my excersises i get lower back pain and it can hurt to stand for long periods of time. Depending on how well ive been managing it, i may or may not have a hunchback when im older. While Mr Flexy is talking about different changes to your back's curvature, please dont just assume ANY posture, keep it symmetrical.

[@scottk1525]

Wall angels are pointless. My chiropractor had me doing wall angels for months. It didn't help with anything, not even my ability to do wall angels. It wasn't until I started doing strengthening exercises that specifically target serratus, lower trap, and rhomboids that things started to improve. After getting a stronger back and shoulders, I was able to do wall angels easily for the first time ever, despite not having done them in months.

[@lorainisrael]

I absolutely love how you move, subscribed right away.

[@WYKLO]

So basically.... ADHD has been saving my body

[@TheDominionOfElites]

what a great communicator

[@MeanBeanComedy]

So wait, the smart guy is luckier than the strong guy, but they're equally as dextrous?

[@odrowsybox5175]

It aint dnd

[@HAMGoesSam]

Thanks for making your ebooks free. I’d had leg operations years ago and neglected to do a stretching or physio. I will work on your flexibility routines until I can move how I wish too 👍🏻

[@PizzzaMozarella]

I disagree with you. my parents ignored my bad posture, now I'm 24 with back & neck pain and my life is f*cked

[@simintoo1]

Haha I love this video! It's useful and yet funny and light 😂 I normally choose long videos (even over 1hour ones), so it's not a challenge for me to watch it ❤

[@blueandgreenslacks]

I disagree wholeheartedly about posture not making you look more attractive.

[@MovementbyDavid]

Valid!

[@lonestarr1490]

Well, that's because you haven't seen me!

[@CWYoutube]

Thank you for your education David !

[@privtprofile24]

People are always looking to blame their pain on some small magic thing. When it is almost always just a general lack of movement.

[@frostedflakes55]

The problem is those two things are not the same. You can be very active and still have very bad mobility and posture.

[@fortnight5677]

@@frostedflakes55 Just because you are moving around much doesn't mean you are "active." You are just walking around, not doing exercises, work out etc. Or it's the opposite and you are not getting enough rest, or forcing your body too much.

[@frostedflakes55]

@fortnight5677 you seem to think I'm talking about myself lol my mobility is pretty high and I play sports and I have no major chronic aches and pains. I used to when I was chronically out of alignment.

[@invertexyz]

The main cause or contributor to a back pain issue that isn't caused by another medical issue is generally going to be poor core strength. Posture can help, but that core strength is the bread and butter of a healthy spine. By building up your core muscles you reduce the amount of forces your spine has to handle on its own and also help keeps it more stable. I tried fixing my back pain in my 20s with better posture and getting fit. It helped a bit, but I still had problems just sitting or standing in one position for long. Much later, after taking up strength training, and especially deadlifts and planks, I completely eliminated the backpain I'd experience often since my late teens. This is also an important thing to note for any women who feel they may need breast reduction surgery to get rid of the pain. I would highly recommend a core strength training regiment with weight progression first, as often the back pain is more to do with a weak core than the weight of the chest itself. We should always strive for surgery to be a last resort when it comes to fixing issues with our bodies if we can, that is one of many aspects of trying to live healthily.

[@NiliMoto]

good posture doesn't make you more attractive, but it makes you seem more confident and i personally become more confident and thats what people find attractive.

[@redblue5140]

"good posture doesn't make you more attractive, but it makes you more attractive" bro you are unhinged and deranged why are your words like this

[@pyropulseIXXI]

It literally does make you more attractive. Having a hunch back is not attractive. Girls with curved lower backs are more attractive. Girls with straight backs are less attractive. Girls with hunched backs are the least attractive

[@valaya.3]

This explains why my brother twists his back and body into weird positions and sits at a computer for hours at a time and yet doesn't have back pain, unlike the rest of us in the family 😅 he has always been naturally quite flexible. I always had back pain (and I still do deal with it) as well as awful posture, but yoga has helped tremendously. The biggest thing was that I didn't have the core muscles or gluteus muscles to support my back and my movements. Having good posture, I've found, helps me to feel more confident and I really do feel it helps alleviate pain now that I have the core strength to support it. But this video makes me realize that the times when I feel like slouching or moving around after having good posture may really be my body communicating to me to move so I don't get so tense. Very interesting stuff.

[@scottk1525]

Doctors, physical therapists, and chiropractors are wrong. Trust me, bro. I read the abstract of one study.

[@abdulazizalbakri2099]

Short and clear. I efin love you man.

[@gurabirierosanopara620]

For everyone who is complaining about the wait: good news! No need to worry about your posture! Seriously! What you should do first is simple: GET A LIFE.

[@MovementbyDavid]

Same

[@tomaszsotysik9438]

These exercises might be a gamechanger for me, as I get really nauseous when I exercise in a lying down position, like I did during physiotheraphy and later doing their exercises at home. Thanks!

[@Yago-yago66]

2:00 DAAANGGGG 🥵🥵🥵🥵😈👀👀👀👀👀👀👀