I Don't Have Ancestry ThruLines - WHY?!?!

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

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[@dgsmith9969]

Ancestry needs to make managing the trees to load onto ThruLines easier. I've forgotten to go to tree management, after I've already linked my tree to me, to release the tree. And, I have problems with someone hiding the famous people in one lines. They click that the person is "living" and you can't see it. Nobody. Like one descendant decided to keep this ancestor hidden from everyone.

[@themadmassrevolution2499]

So why are ancestry not letting people upload DNA from other DNA services? More than likely money and subscriptions.. But if they really want people to have this interest all sites should be able to upload from any DNA provider. As I said all about the money! Great videos BTW!

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

However, besides GEDmatch, there are fees now to transfer to MyHeritage and FamilyTree DNA. 23andMe doesn't allow for transfers either. I'm not entirely sure why Ancestry does not allow transfers in because they could charge for the transfer rate and reduce the overhead cost of processing the test. Yet, there in lies the trouble. Not every company tests the same segments of DNA and perhaps Ancestry doesn't want to deal with the headache that causes.

[@motstraumen]

I’m adopted and reunited with my bio family (and working on a question there) but my question for you is my adopted family. I’m the go to person in the family for info as I listened to grandma and then in the last forty years have done a lot of work. One relative in Norway was able to connect to my tree via thru lines (I thought) and I could help her a bit more with her questions. My trees are private for various reasons but she connected nevertheless. Is there anyway to use thrulines as an adopted person?

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

ThruLines are problematic because if you do not label your family tree for who is biological and who is genealogical (adoptive parents), then Ancestry will see that you share DNA with someone and look at your tree and find common names. That doesn't always mean that you're generically related to that person along that path. It's one of the flaws of ThruLines. Now, your relative may have connected to you by 'passing through' your tree and connecting to someone else who has a public tree. Thus, she noticed that you have a private tree (trees are marked private in the Ancestry Member database with the ability to contact the owner of the private tree.). But to some up... how do you use ThruLines as an adopted person? Mark your relationships in your trees according to biology and documentation (biological, step, foster, guardian, adopted, etc). Then, your ThruLines will typically show only the biological pedigree and connections. But be aware that some non-biological relationships may appear if others do not have the same distinctions in their trees. If you have follow-up questions, let me know in a new comment thread so KZbin will let me know you left a new comment.

[@AncestryNerd]

I have been using ThruLines for awhile. It's unfortunate that so many people don't have their DNA connected to their tree. I'm considering typing up a template to message to my matches with instructions on how to do so. Do you have any tips for making a cousin DNA tree that is not on Ancestry?

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

To make a cousin DNA tree that's not on Ancestry, I have a tree in RootsMagic. I can add additional relatives for a cousin Match from FamilySearch if they want me to. Then I share that GEDcom file to others who wish to upload the tree to their account.

[@Nordicnorn]

HELP! I have a public tree. Part of my tree does suffer from small family plague. However, I have a DNA match to a fellow also with a public tree and we are 5th - 8th Cousin< 1% shared DNA: 10 cM across 1 segments. Here is the issue: We have several shared people in our trees going back to 7th Great-Grandmother, yet he not show on thru lines. Why? We ARE a DNA match AND we share ancestors. I have many other thru lines for other branches and it works (more or less). But not this particular branch.

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

ThruLines stop at 5th Great-Grandparents. Autosomal DNA can't reliably predict past that generation. If your common ancestor is beyond the 5th Great-Grandparents, you won't have ThruLines.

[@jjbud3124]

My ThruLines on my mother's side are extensive with many matches. On my father's father's side, there are none going back all 5 generations. Weird. I guess they just haven't haven't tied it to their tree or don't have a tree. My father's mother's side has a handful. I have plenty of matches in my DNA matches to all of them.

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

I have a mix of many ThruLines on maternal and paternal depending on who our common ancestor is. Of course, the lines I want to know more about have very few other matches.

[@alanheadrick7997]

I am the admin for my daughter in law kit. I know she will never have any through lines so it doesn't really mean much. Pretty much all Ancestry did for her is provide 498 matches. Nothing works as far as tools, I think hide match is all there is. I use to be able to view unlinked trees, but after the upgrade that doesn't work any more. I watch all these video's scratching my head why nothing works. Do I have to pay to turn on the tools? I go to 23andme and everything works.

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

If you do not have a subscription to Ancestry, then you won't be able to access the tools.

[@sylvestermorgan]

Have to say Thrulines still confuses me. I have little blue circles on every one of my ancestors in the tree view, which I at first thought to be a good thing as it seemed to validate my tree. However, if I click on a good number of them, the icon might be blue but there are 0 matches. Is Ancestry telling me 1) The blue icon is always applied to what you say is your direct ancestry, regardless of anyone else's trees 2) Ancestry has had a look at this and has found some DNA matches out there that suggest you and an unspecified match are researching the same family, but Ancestry can't work out the common ancestor. Maybe they are just differently spelt names of have differing dates or something. I'm hoping it's (2) and not (1)!

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

Could you send me a screen capture of the blue dots? I'm not seeing these on mine tree. Ancestry rolls out different features to it's customers so you might have a version I don't have. Send me a message at info @ famillyhistoryfanatics . com.

[@jjbud3124]

The blue circles show the people who are in your ThruLines whether or not you have a DNA match. The ThruLines do not depend on DNA matches. They depend on who is in your tree.

[@staceycoates1418]

I am having a similar issue with my father-in-law's kit, which just came in last week. I have several matches on his mother's side (and a few I recognize the surname). But there is absolutely none on his dad's side. I have not done a lot of research on his side of the family but it is not a case of small family plague. (though not discounting not tested or childed out) But with none (always assuming that there are at least a few with no tree, unlinked tree, or private tree) I would have expected at least one thruline on that side. So now I am wondering if there is a NPE on that side and am curious to get one or more of his siblings tested while we still can.

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

Keep us posted. There are definitely red flags to investigate. Hopefully the outcome will be positive.

[@michaelwhalan9783]

Extra issue may be ThruLines having to deal with links on 2 or more branches, usually from the father's and mother's line as a form of double cousin relation.

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

Thanks Michael. That's something I hadn't incorporated into the the video.

[@honeymother]

Helping a friend. Her Thru Lines for Maternal side show up as 0 in the sort even though they had previously been there. Paternal shows up fine. What happened?

[@rlybadjuju]

It’s so odd as on one side of my family I have 5-6 generations back with hundreds of they lined matches, but my maternal side going straight up has absolutely nothing. I’m so confused and don’t understand what to do.

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

That's not uncommon. I have numerous lines with this problem. Several reasons are at play: 1. The maternal line doesn't have many people who have tested. 2. The maternal line doesn't have many people who could test (a problem of small families, which I have). 3. The maternal line has people who have tested but they haven't built or don't know their family tree. DNA is a record of relationships and ThruLines helps piece the relationships together, but there is still a lot of genealogical research (and genetic genealogy research) that we have to do if the lines don't show up that we had hoped for.

[@sexydudeuk2172]

im confused one one certain part of my family. I have had a DNA test done and i have spoken to some people on my grandfathers fathers side who all claim to be descended from that certain ancestor and seen a picture of one ancestor 6 generations back who looks like my father and they claim to have been linked yet i have no dna matches to any of them yet all the records have led me to believe that person is my ancestor so i am confused.

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

IF the they are close matches (meaning between siblings and 2nd cousins) and you have no shared DNA with them (not meaning a lack of ThruLines but a lack of DNA matches), then they are biological relatives even if the paper trial says so. If the relatives are more distant, then it's possible that you and your cousins either didn't inherit the same DNA from the same common ancestor or your not related genetically at all.

[@BrownEyedGirl620]

I'm at a total impasse with my maternal 2nd GGrandfather. I'm 98% sure there is a secret and Great Grandma Virgie has unknown paternity. I have no cousins at this level that I don't know where they fit in my tree. So, I'm left with 2 options, the one being that simply no descendants of mystery grandpa's parents have registered DNA, or... Mystery grandpa's DNA is already in my tree. I am just not good enough with DNA to do the trianglulating. I've started a million times to teach myself how to go about it and I don't get very far before my eyes glaze over and my brain checks out Lol! It's so stinking frustrating!

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

Have you considered getting a DNA consultation? At this point, sometimes you need another set of eyes to say, "Look here for this thing" and then you can know what you don't know and what you need to learn to get to the next step.

[@Mike_Spor]

i cant even find my own name in ancestry.com i was in the military also. i got all my siblings, parents, uncles, aunts, grandmas etc.

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

Okay. I'm not entirely sure how to help.

[@Mike_Spor]

@@FamilyHistoryFanatics finaly got some hints. building slowly but surely. :)

[@geraldbrefka1145]

The only question I have about DNA 4th cousins matches. Both sides of my family came to America during the Revolutionary War on opposite sides. Bot ended up at Fort Detroit very early on. So I understand all these cousins that i,I, connected to here in Michigan. But how can I have so many 4th cousins in Europe mainly in Ireland. No English or Scottish. On the Polish side the only 4th cousin matches they say we are not connect no earlier than 10 generation. It's the 4th cousins i,m confused about because people know about all my 3rd cousins

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

This isn't necessarily a ThruLine question. 4th cousin is a 'relative' term that can have a variety of meanings. The question really becomes how many centimorgans (cMs) do you share and what would the nature of that relationship be. Type in your the amount of shared cMs into this website and then discover all the possible relationships you could share with that amount of shared DNA. dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4

[@geraldbrefka1145]

@@FamilyHistoryFanatics thx I get if we share the same segment or segments pop up then they show connection. I wrote the complete history of my ancient tribe, so really the segments you clarified are actually within my closest clan of my tribe. The Roman's have busts of the Sarmatian knights faces 3000 years ago and my family look like twins of these guys still today. Which also means the Amazons are my grandmothers who were the daughters of these faces on the ancient busts.

[@anna-karins1176]

good video first I thought that small family plague meant that many of ones ancestors had died from a epidemic !!! ofcause that could happen too. 3 of my great grandmothers younger siblings died of diptheria 1879-1880

[@FamilyHistoryFanatics]

That's so tragic but common. The number of children who survived into adulthood greatly impacts your potential genetic matches and tells your more about your family legacy.