Here is an explanation of what to look for if you don't think you have any nitrogen left in your shock Check us out at www.maultechatv.com
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@vulgarhyena96165 ай бұрын
Awesome video, thanks, I’m getting ready to repair my 1983 ATC 250R rear shock, and it has zero pressure in it, and I can hear the squishy noise from the rear shock. Thanks a bunch for sharing your knowledge
@MaulTechATV11 жыл бұрын
The only way to add oil is to open up the shock. To slow down the rebound of any shock there is a knob at the bottom of the shock (if you purchased the rebound option). To slow the rebound down you screw the knob clockwise looking from the bottom. To adjust the compression you do the same with the knob on the top of the shock, clockwise is slower. So in your case if they feel too stiff then you would want to turn the knob counter-clockwise. Your spring rate could be too stiff also though!
@timt1346 Жыл бұрын
Exactly the info I was looking for, thanks! Just need to hit up my welding buddy for the nitrogen and the manual for how much pressure.
@paulhatch74635 жыл бұрын
1st of all, great video, very informative. I suspect your response to my question (If I'm fortunate enough to receive one) will be in the negative, but I'm desperate so I'll ask anyway. I own a 1989 Nissan D-21 Hardbody 4x4. I bought it from a guy that was seriously into off road, and ran it over the Baha course 5 times. The front suspension has been radically modified. The original mounts and coil spring suspension were removed, and all custom mounting points were fabricated. It now has three shocks per side. Two gas/oil remote reservoir, and one shorter oil shock down lower. My problem is that the two reservoir shocks (Rancho 7230 -T8041) have finally failed. They are from the early 90s. Rush says that they no longer produce seals/rebuild kits for them (no real surprise there) To buy new shocks to replace these would cost more than the truck is worth, but it's an awesome truck, very clean, in good shape. I want to keep it on the road if I can, if it doesn't become cost prohibitive. Is there any chance that you might know of any after market rebuild kits or seals/O-rings that might work? I know it's a long shot, but thanks either way.
@ryderczarnecki74912 жыл бұрын
Whats the body tube size really only thing need to know. Bless
@MaulTechATV10 жыл бұрын
Nitrogen pressures vary depending on the piston design and histirisis. Most use 150-200
@maximusprime66714 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! Definitely need nitrogen in my rzr shocks
@furr6667 жыл бұрын
Excellent informative video, thank you!!
@Gearhart. Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@brandonfontaine2853 жыл бұрын
That clunking noise when my shock rebounds make sense now after discovering my oil leak.
@martinsemenov15715 жыл бұрын
Thx for this vid nice to see visual comparison
@imabeast08983 жыл бұрын
Finally an answer to my problem. Was taking apart my rear Showa shock for the first time and let the nitrogen out and was a few steps ahead. Then I watched another vid where the guy said to test the shock action rebound to see if the shock is good. I never thought it was going to be bad and not work so when I tried it and it didn’t work I was worried. I’m assuming it is because I had already let the nitrogen out though correct? Seemed low on oil too because not much came out when I got the other part off. Could be both? Is it possible to have a blown shock that can’t be repaired?
@333gew9 жыл бұрын
Thank you man..appriciate you share your kwoledge ..
@Dwolfson224 жыл бұрын
Awesome video thank you!
@oktayoktem2 жыл бұрын
Perfect ... thanks bro ✌👏👏
@jacknsally113 жыл бұрын
THANKS!!
@danknugz7605 Жыл бұрын
Hey man u are deadly and informative the most ive found so far. I cant find any info on Fox Zero Pro XC shocks front or back ....can u make a video
@dansemec33819 жыл бұрын
Probably just going to have to replace it.
@MikheilZhizhilashvili3 жыл бұрын
It was useful info but who do you know in what pressure you have in piston/bladder if you didn't check with the pressure gauge? or you have a gauge on the regulator side?
@Dive-Bar-Casanova10 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@aletheiablindfolded59684 жыл бұрын
thx, just the common n2 pressure would have been nice. thumbs up anyway.
@robbinwall33584 жыл бұрын
Wondering how much oil is necessary... and pressure. Is there a standard? Or a way to know with how much it cones from factory? Great info thanks for sharing.
@meniayeomans52807 жыл бұрын
can you just go to a air pump like the ones for your car tyres???
@ArcanePath3604 жыл бұрын
Nice demo and clear explanation. I'm thinking of getting a nitrogen performance shock. Do they need periodic refilling or do they just sometimes leak?
@MaulTechATV4 жыл бұрын
You should service your shocks annually to ensure proper lubrication and proper nitrogen pressure. Along with inspecting all your internal parts for wear
@battleminion9 жыл бұрын
Thanks just what i was looking for, One question if the screw in the nitro reservior does not make any change and the shock its to bouncy, its nitrogen problem? Thanks
@2002blaster111 жыл бұрын
thank you!! very helpful when i get Home ill try it out, thx - nate
@DavidWilliams-ol3vp2 жыл бұрын
What if you put air in the place of nitrogen?
@XD-wk4ny2 жыл бұрын
What hapens when you put regular sir grom compressor
@rufusrunsgsp46102 жыл бұрын
Where does one get a nitro charge? Amazon? Small cans?
@alexescobar39248 жыл бұрын
dose the shock have to be off of the dirtbike to fill it up
@704arturo3 жыл бұрын
Very good Video!! One question how about once i push shock down and only goes back up half ways? It does not extend all the way. Is that also a problem? They are fox 2.0 please advise thank you
@todds59563 жыл бұрын
I’ve done a lot of rear shocks on 90s Mx bikes. How do I fill monobody kyb shocks on rear snowmobile suspensions? There is no Schrader but just a small Phillips. The needle fill? Thanks.
@daveprototype60792 жыл бұрын
Great video New subscriber Cheers
@desertrider3257 жыл бұрын
My front forks on my 2008 WR450F feels very stiff. And as if the rebound setting adjuster and even the compression adjusters make no difference. Can you do this same style video for from dirt bike forks?
@hayden93735 жыл бұрын
Watch a vid on a youtube channel "mx factory" called suspension does and don'ts it should help you
@levistrnad29652 жыл бұрын
most front shocks have an air bleeder, unlike rear shocks you don't want pressure in the forks (when there fully extended, make sure when you open the bleeder screws the bike is on a stand). it sounds like you have pressure build up if the dampening screws aren't doing anything. also this is a very old comment so I'm sure you have a solution by now lol.
@josegomes93755 жыл бұрын
Ei , Nice imformative vídeo .. I have a question , i have been check my atv shocks , They are like thats you show , I disassembly Them , clean and and new oil.. al parts Seems ok. Put al on the place and now my my question . I charge them with nitrogen (160 psi) Its normal the rod dont come up in totality? I mean it stays a litle beat down of maximum (open) Did i put much oil? I put same amout , and a litle beat more . Any Help are apreciate Thnx
@mrsmit43812 жыл бұрын
can I put 150psi air in my rear shock?
@FrankLeferink8 жыл бұрын
💥💥PLEASE READ AND RESPOND!💥💥 If there isn't a way for me to get nitrogen, am I able to pump it up with an electric pump with normal "air"? If so what psi would you recommend after letting all the nitrogen out. And when I opened the front forks up, I smelled butane?? I'm not quite sure but I thought only fork oil was supposed to go inside? Please help💢💢💢💢💢💢💢💢💢💢💢💢
@ShawnLivesInItaly2 жыл бұрын
can u user regular air not nitrogen in shocks?
@jordand31008 жыл бұрын
Thank you this helped a lot I have a 2001 Honda 400ex what is the psi needed for nitrogen?
@crazybob1954mo2 жыл бұрын
OK... Just How do you plan on putting Nitrogen into the shock????
@LJK9575 жыл бұрын
Can we fill the type pressure gas on shock??
@VinTheTubanoS3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video with plenty of information! Thanks a lot sir! How you ever heard the RFY SHOCK ABSORBER? chinese absorber but if they any good i mean. Would like to buy a set of those but have sone second thoughts. Thanks for your reply!
@298CRE8 Жыл бұрын
They don't have reservoir etc that is just a casting the rfy are just basically a spring and minimal damping not much different to other Chinese shocks used on atvs and monkey bikes better than some but no good if wanted actual rebound and compression items
@rbljackson2 жыл бұрын
my sons xr 250 feels to have no dampening in the rear shock. you can just feel the spring and bounce it.....so im guessing that resembles the same problem in the latter part of this video....oil leaked out due to bad seal most likely correct? Is this something I can rebuild myself, or does it have to be sent to someone for repairs>
@JosiahNielsen2 ай бұрын
So on my 2003 Honda cr80rb I was out riding and towards the end of the ride the shocks got really really soft, so me being stupid I thought the valve stem was a bleeder valve but it felt like it was sucking in air once I had pushed the valve in it felt stiff again but the next time I took the bike out it felt like there was no dampening at all there is no negative or positive pressure in the nitrogen reservoir so I'm wondering if I have both a nitrogen and oil problem.
@maultechatv7492 ай бұрын
The purpose of the nitrogen is to create a pressure on the oil in the shock body. With out this as the shock travels through its up and down motion it will create a air pocket around the piston and valving resulting in a loss of dampening. Most offroad motorcycles need to have 150-175psi of nitrogen in the nitrogen chamber. If it feels like a pogo stick you have air trapped in with the oil. It needs pulled apart bleed properly and refilled with proper amount of nitrogen. Thanks
@ShortyzProductionz5 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference of running nitrogen compared to normal air?
@TRC913 жыл бұрын
Normal air contains 78% nitrogen. If that helps
@ShortyzProductionz3 жыл бұрын
@@TRC91 even more reason for my question if it’s 78% nitrogen already
@kshellrazor3 жыл бұрын
Moisture. Air in shock bodies is bad news.
@ryanmazey58088 жыл бұрын
So if my elka stage 4 rear shock is soft with a pogo stick rebound is it oil or nitrogen?
@anthonybaksh46498 жыл бұрын
what if the rear end is jus soft
@Dive-Bar-Casanova10 жыл бұрын
What pressure do you charge the nitrogen to?
@indioflechudo62216 жыл бұрын
can the gas be release out of a kyb shock?
@jackheathergervais76187 жыл бұрын
Hi, i have an issue with my Fox RC3 motocross shock.. in the morning before i use the suspension and ride it , the free sag is within spec, and the top of the range is nice and plush, and then once i ride it and come back in 2 hours , look at my free sag, it has increased dramatically to an inch or 2. the plushness in that upper range is gone as well and it squats a lot lower and the shock is much stiffer.. then next morning when i go to check again , when it has sat for a while, THE RANGE IS RESTORED ! plushness is back haha what do you suppose is the problem, ? thanks for the video btw , i was thinking the nitrogen might be low and might be some bubbles in the oil. .?
@paulacabbo4666 жыл бұрын
how can i tell if some or most of the gas leaked out with the spring still mounted on it, how would the ride feel on a bike with bad mono shock, do i really need to remove it and break it down to know for sure
@2002blaster111 жыл бұрын
how do you add more oil? my shocks (pep front and back) pb-1 in front and a pep-8 in the back dont adjust by the knob. the rear shock rebounds way to fast (how do i adjust rebound?) and the front shock has the right rebound just its to firm for me (how do i adjust stiffness if knob doesent work?) im srry for my manu questions just im like the needle in the hay stack im so confused on what could be the problems with them idk thank you so much, please respond !!! thx-nate ( love your vid!)
@ello-mz6om4 жыл бұрын
what could it be when my shock doesnt rebound fully and feels kinda springy and makes a hard knocking noise when reboounding?
@jasonwhitmore97038 жыл бұрын
How hard would it be to out new seals in a fox zero pro shock?for a 2010 sno pro 500.
@mrsmit43812 жыл бұрын
150psi ?
@dansemec33819 жыл бұрын
Hey do you think you can't tell me what the problem is in my rear ATV shock?I seem to have oil leaking but the suspension works just fine and the oil is not coming from the engine.
@MaulTechATV9 жыл бұрын
If it is a bladder style shock then there is more oil in the shock than what is needed. If the shock is leaking then you will eventually loose enough oil and then it will feel springy. Remove the shock from the bike, remove the spring, turn it upside down in a vise and push the shaft into the shock. If you feel air in the shock then it is blown :)
@dansemec33819 жыл бұрын
Its the 2003 Yamaha 350 Warrior rear shock.
@MaulTechATV9 жыл бұрын
daniil semenyuk I believe those shocks are non rebuildable
@Bumpyfn2503 жыл бұрын
My rm needs sum can i put air tho?
@mrsmit43812 жыл бұрын
how much nitrogen does the shock take?
@rhyancbp7610 жыл бұрын
whats the difference from a shock filled with nitrogen and a shock filled air ?
@MaulTechATV10 жыл бұрын
The difference is that air expand when it gets hot. The 2 will act the same until it gets hot! Also it's hard to find someone that has an air compressor that goes to 200 psi.
@rhyancbp7610 жыл бұрын
thanks
@1876unlocker10 жыл бұрын
MaulTechATV Does it mean that air cannot be use for the job?
@ModelKing10009 жыл бұрын
1876 UNLOCKER He just told you. It can but it gets hot even if someone has a compressor that goes up to 200 psi.
@73superglide627 жыл бұрын
so if pull hard pull hard just need gas nite
@SLP-eb1wp4 жыл бұрын
so u dont measure how much nitrogen u put in it?
@dustinlittle22145 жыл бұрын
Obviously I wouldn't be able to get up to 200 PSI but could I use regular air at say 50 psi to help troubleshoot the problem
@Nickk.amador5 жыл бұрын
If my shock has oil in it and on the resovor the screw is all the way tight would it need air to stiffen it up its not really soft i just want to stiffen it a lil pls respond
@bernswonger57 Жыл бұрын
@@Nickk.amador I love it when people use reasoning to overcome problems, that's how man evolves, trial and error
@carlosdiaz81015 жыл бұрын
How much air u put in them
@denihermawan63107 жыл бұрын
Hai m8, how to fill the oil ?
@johnathanmcgee5297 жыл бұрын
So if my shock is really bouncy I need oil?
@bendover59844 жыл бұрын
My shock does it to bad
@jcd914985 жыл бұрын
My front forks on my 2008 yz250f go down but dont come back up whats wrong
@Daschickenify Жыл бұрын
Old comment, but its possible the air bleed screws were opened while the forks were compressed, so now when it tries to go past that point it is drawing a vacuum, otherwise the rebound damping is too far closed.
@garycsfunlife5 жыл бұрын
Ask fox about not using air
@azadameen5798137 жыл бұрын
Hi dear can you tell me how or where I can go to fix my car shocker and how to add oil My car is passacc and is Electric shocker is I need help please Thanks
@craigoldenburg25847 жыл бұрын
hey dummies air is 80 percent nitrogen
@Barsabus6 жыл бұрын
No it's not. Nitrogen is flammable and explosive.
@xpeacemaster5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, my BC shit coils are dead
@plourenco39809 жыл бұрын
waths the Nitrogen pressure?
@MaulTechATV9 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the manufacturer and brand of shock you have?
@matthewwyatt429610 жыл бұрын
could you use air?
@MaulTechATV10 жыл бұрын
You could use air but the pressure will increase as the shocks heat up
@matthewwyatt429610 жыл бұрын
k, thanks
@Twostrokealec9 жыл бұрын
No way
@johnbrakingground7 жыл бұрын
I use air and have never seen a difference or had a problem.
@alexescobar39248 жыл бұрын
dose the shock have to be off of the dirtbike to fill it up