I Explored An Aeroplane Crash Site - Korean Air Cargo Flight 8509

I found the last remains of the tragic plane crash of 1999 in Hatfield forest. There is still quite a bit of debris scattered around the forest floor. Its quite haunting to visit.. The four passengers of the Boeing 474-2B5F all lost their lives due to a instrumental malfunction.
/ mrwhitmore

[@Bobman84]

The exact spot the plane hit was the south west edge of the lake (pretty much a straight line from TheGateHouse on The Street. They drained the lake in 2000 to search for missing depleted uranium and found a wheel. Nice video, seeing what the site looks like now.

[@jaffcat]

I was the first Paramedic on scene that night. Best described as chaos!

[@firedragon-cute-13-nice13]

That sony piece you found at 8:23 is part of a cordless headphone system (think of bluetooth but really really old) so anything that seemed releated could've either been some of the cargo or it's whatever is left of the pilot's headsets

[@paulr75]

The hard drives wpuld not have been going to korea,they would have been flown into stansted,but remained on the plane to be dropped off in europe,on the return journey. The flight was en route to milan from stansted,when the crash happened.

[@alf8579]

The captain was a bully who belittled & effectively silenced his first officer from the moment of take off & also ignored the flight engineer. Amazing how pilots can be so far banked over within 56 seconds of T/O without realising. Perhaps they should wear an independent body vest with spirit level & prods in their ribs to realign their situational awareness. Enjoyable video thanks.

[@enoz.j3506]

That was really interesting to watch,i wonder how long you werent allowed onto the site,after the crash?,the mobile phone memory could of been read way back then,strange that all the debris wasnt collected a few days after the crash,guess they dont clean up. Mentour Pilot you tube channel explains in great detail what happened.Cheers for upload.

[@CaptainSiCo]

Holding that mobile phone must have been emotive. Of course it mag have just been cargo, but imagine if it belonged to one of the crew.

[@Tedster0]

By the way the crash used in the thumbnail is Korean Air Flight 801.

[@tiadaid]

6:30 I suspect this could be part of the cargo roller system on the aircraft used to position the loaded cargo pallets in the cargo hold.

[@X_BILSON]

It went down as there was incorrect readings on the Captains ADI instrument. The Captain was banking left following the departure route but the ADI stayed level, so he banked even more causing nose dive into the ground which they did not know about. The captain thought there was a problem with the ailerons, turns out they were working fine.

[@geekmechanic1473]

The first officer knew this as he wouldve seen it on his adi but didn't say anything. Not to mention when it wasn't working a warning sound came on for the faulty ADI.

[@X_BILSON]

@@geekmechanic1473 Apparently at the time of exceeding max operation bank angle, the first officer was tuning the frequency on radio so wasn't looking at his ADI. Not sure about the alarm.

[@geekmechanic1473]

@@X_BILSON he did look up afterward and yes there is an alarm that goes off if the adi is more than 4 degrees off for a second. He didn't say anything because before take off the captain scalded him not to mention in the investigation korean culture was found to be also an issue

[@medved7153]

Who asked

[@X_BILSON]

@@medved7153 You just did.

[@StephenLuke]

RIP Park Duk-kyu (1942-1999) Yoon Ki-sik (1966-1999) Park Hoon-kyu (1961-1999) and Kim Il-suk (1954-1999)

[@electronicsNmore]

Very interesting video!

[@jonmortermusic]

I was on a private return flight to Zurich on Bonfire Night 1999, we stopped off at Paris and remember seeing a Korean Air Cargo 747 taxiing. When this crash happened a month later not a million miles from where I live I always wondered if it was the same plane

[@WerdanLeather]

Any reason you don’t pick any of the junk up and dispose of it properly. I know it’s not yours but whilst your there..... don’t you think?

[@MRWhitmore]

I have removed a fair bit of plastic and toxic materials i.e computer parts.

[@ac9110]

Well then there'd be nothing to look at. Presumably why you watched is it not?

[@cecilyanng]

That bone! Glurg.

[@Ninetieschannel]

What kinda camera did you use to record this? Great video! Haunting.

[@idolhanz9842]

This was caused by failure to fix an ADI problem caused by an IMU wiring problem to the instrument...?

[@Jensonaviation166]

Hey mate were did you park up?

[@MRWhitmore]

I parked on the back enterance... but i later realised its only parking for the fishers who use the lakes. If you search the fishing lakes, you are close by.

[@JS-gp1hl]

Did you watched the episode from Air Crash Investigation? Just knowing.

[@MRWhitmore]

Hahaha that actually made me laugh

[@georgegeorgegeorge4539]

the air crash investigation is FAKE my grandfather owns lots of land next to the crash area and he witnessed the plans crashing the air crash investigation is VERY FAKE

[@titan9259]

You sure about that?

[@georgegeorgegeorge4539]

@@titan9259 very sure

[@georgegeorgegeorge4539]

@IKHWAN RAYYAN HAFIZ BIN HUSNI HAFIZ Moe it is not real no one could hear the plane from london if it departed from london stansted airport it crashed in a forest around an hour away from london

[@Nikhef]

OMG, plane crash???? 😱😱😱😱😱😱✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️😱😱😱😱😱

[@titan9259]

747-200F crash 1999

[@robertwilliamson6121]

Did you give the bone a proper burial and say a prayer?

[@mutantthegreat7963]

Compare this to US Airlines Flight 93. What a joke.

[@bjoe385]

I’d have thought a vast majority of the aircraft debris was recovered, and all the debris you found was likely put there after the crash.

[@tedstar22]

No because if you think about it they blocked it all off and it also is very hard to clear up a cargo planes size of debris

[@evehosgood]

And Samsung is a Korean company, most likely from the aircraft it would have had tons of cargo on board, literally

[@bjoe385]

@@tedstar22 the environmentalists wouldn’t let them leave a spec of debris these days, all the visible stuff would be picked up and properly disposed of.

[@spigeo2345]

@@bjoe385 Yes but it was in 1999, things were different

[@muffs55mercury61]

Any crash site there is probably no way all the thousands of pieces can be cleared. The earth yields new things every year.

[@franzenbandayril2877]

Boeing 474? It was 747 sir😁

[@jasongoulden2938]

Can remember hearing this plane crash from the town of ware and seeing a big orange glow in the sky behind the hill didn’t realise what had happened until the following day when I got to work where colleagues were talking about it

[@hi-zh9wd]

i know this video was uploaded a while back but i wanna say i really appreciate the way you film! sometimes youtube can be too "professional" and the way you film really made me feel like i was with you walking and exploring together! great video : )

[@oh_no_no_no]

Those phones really held together besides the battery after such an impact.

[@thefivepoints]

Thats when phones were really made of tougher stuff compared to the smart phones of today.

[@galaxion62]

Wow... what a truly fascinating video.... am in awe seeing this. That piece of metal found with all the rivet holes in, is a piece of the engine cowling, as we can see the round formation of this. This plane must have been carrying an IT supplies cargo, but is very airy seeing this. I too wonder exactly where the main impact happened, but is most likely the fenced off area you describe. Thanks for sharing & making this most amazing piece of footage.

[@lorraineward5579]

Hi, whereabouts did you park to access this please.

[@MRWhitmore]

Hi! I Accidently parked in a spot destinated for people fishing. However there are lots of car parking areas near the forest!

[@lorraineward5579]

@@MRWhitmore did you go in through the main Woodland Trust carpark. They wouldn't let us in today as we hadn't pre-booked.

[@MRWhitmore]

@@lorraineward5579 nooo.. if you go to the otherside of the forest by continuing around the road, there are parking spots on the side of the road and you can just walk in. I go nearly everyday 😊

[@lorraineward5579]

@@MRWhitmore ok thank you

[@handyman683]

I was driving a lorry on the M11 that day, and I see the glow when the plane hit the ground.

[@Stichting_NoFa-p]

I cant believe all of that is from a crash that happened in the 80's, and the relatively good condition of the plastic.

[@tiadaid]

The crash happened in 1999, not the 1980s.

[@riccardoz2953]

as long i see there is someone dumping electronic waste in that forest. no way that a crash can remove memory chip from a pcb board. plus all those HDD if were shipped they had to be packaged. all the debries u show werent packaged at all. Due the incident happened 20 years ago, it's more realistic that those electronic parts were picked up, scanvenged and dumped back by some scumbags. Yes, u find some obvious airplane parts ( green paint is the biggest indicator of structural parts, and more than rivets, the wheight of the materials). It should be way more good to see that u pickup those electronic waste and dump at a recycling center instead to toss em on the ground. Btw, a couple of gloves could prevent any issue to hurt yourself... about DNA .... lol. eventually fingerprints.

[@alexgrfan97therevenge76]

I checked for myself by looking up the serial number (SV0842D), the hard drive at 5:50 is an 8GB Samsung SpinPoint V9100. That drive entered production in November 1999. The plane crash occurred a month later. If not from the plane crash, has likely been there just as long.

[@thefivepoints]

The hard drives are from the plane crash surely, the memory chips and pcb board are obviously cargo not parts from the plane itself.

[@Bobman84]

These aren't "dumped". Very clearly part of the wreckage from the plane crash. No-one's going to be dumping 1999 built South Korean hard drives and phones in a forest where a plane crashed in 1999. Crashes can easily remove memory chips from PCB boards and plastic packaging can burn off or wear off over time. 100% part of Korean Air Cargo 8509.

[@andrewmcnicoll2299]

i wonder if them hard drives are actually what flew the plane.. ie the info for the auto pilot might be stored on it.

[@tommytfaa]

Nope cargo

[@Trekker_UK]

Continuing the investigation! Awesome video there mate!

[@MRWhitmore]

Thanks dude!

[@ac9110]

I presume the small piece of video at the beginning is the actual crash caught on film. That's very eerie. That piece at 11:00 could possibly be a bit of the roller track that the cargo went on? I would have thought those Samsung phones were in the cargo with the other Samsung stuff and nothing to do with the crew. This is very interesting. Many thanks for filming.

[@justforfun110]

👍

[@james9958]

Very interesting video - suprised so much debris is still in the forest all these years on.

[@SteveMHN]

Why were they flying computer parts out of the UK, shouldn't it be the other way around?

[@tiadaid]

The flight was flying Seoul-Tashkent-London-Milan. So the computer parts may have been heading to Milan from Korea.

[@Optima109]

Its hard to believe that this crash site was not cleared properly

[@tiadaid]

It’s often the norm that crash sites aren’t cleaned properly.

[@BigHumz155]

I'll never understand why new Samsung devices were going TO Korea, aren't they manufactured there?

[@jackhinson4743]

The inbound flight to Stansted had come from Korea, the outbound crash flight was going to Milan.

[@paulr75]

They had come in from korea to be dropped off in europe on the way back. THe flight was going to Milan from stansted

[@BritishBeachcomber]

Flight 8509 crashed in the forest *close to a good friend's house.* It scared the sh!t out of her. *I also lived close to the crash site of BEA flight 548* which came down after takeoff from Heathrow in 1972, narrowly missing the large town of Staines and not far from Windsor Castle. A paramedic first responder friend was so traumatized that he had to quit the job. *I don't live near an airport now.* *But I do live just 8 miles from Hinckley Point Nuclear Power Station,* with a big range of hills in between. *Should I move?*

[@charlesdehavilland2437]

It's not worth scavenging - apparently this plane carried depleted uranium in the tail, and it's not worth being exposed to it (you don't know what you are picking up).

[@tommytfaa]

Depleted uranium isn’t dangerous

[@MavAuto-Pete]

Great stuff. Just a pitty the captain was making his co workers look small and not listen to them. Hope you didn't take too much if anything as per what happened... as it is banned from national trust from you going there.

[@thefivepoints]

I thought you knew it was the site of the Korean Air Cargo 8509 crash thats why you were going there? The flight was carrying lots of different stuff including computers/computer parts and printer cartridges according to Air Crash Investigation.