Timestamps Baseline tests: 1:32 Steel wire installation and tests: 5:45 Steel BB’s installation and tests: 12:31 Water tests: 19:48 Final results: 25:34
@benistingray60978 ай бұрын
Great comparisson, we need more of these fundamental test, maybe get a FlubRC Slimeballz insert next for the same wheel/tyre combo on that car to have a direct comparisson.
@DuDieselDude8 ай бұрын
comparison
@wingnutbert96858 ай бұрын
Given how the BB's stay at the bottom of the tire, I really like the idea. Probably need a few less. Too many can make them bunch up and get stuck. Small funnel would help putting them in.
@jimbo42038 ай бұрын
The water was surprising , I use copper wire and foams and it definitely crawls better than stock setup😊
@ICanDoItMyself8 ай бұрын
I used 12 gauge copper wire on 3 different builds. A Tarantula with 1.3 wheels, a Micro Capra/Injora Rock Buggy with 1.3's and an AX24 with 1.0's. The wire adds ~3 grams per coil and am able to fit 7 coils. Only doing it to the front adds 21 grams per wheel. Drilling a hole in the PVC helps with getting a tight wind on the wire. Like you, I left the foam in. If you use a PVC size just smaller than the ring it will also help keeping it tight. I should probably do a video on how I do it. But the RC videos aren't getting many views or traffic to my channel.
@Matt-my7pz8 ай бұрын
This is spooky because literally I was just talking about some of these techniques yesterday and I believe I have never heard of it seen anyone do this. But like they say if you thought of it, you're already too late. I'm very new to the rc scene and was gifted an accent 18. I have 2 very intense crawler and FPV drone buddies that have done a lot of printed crawler bodies, adjusted suspension tensions, tire inserts but I mentioned water and ball bearings (not bbs) yesterday for super low center of gravity. You can't get much lower than the bottom half of a tire. Many people don't know that large equipment tires are filled with a mixed water to give them mega traction. Super flukey timing with your video. Really appreciate your videos and indepth no drama. I was wondering if you "immersed" the tire in bbs of the amount would give the tire more structure (and weight obviously) and not roll so much.
@TheAngel07unicorn8 ай бұрын
I think some bbs along with water filled would be the overall winner, extra weight and the comformity of the water would be a winner!
@JamesMcNamara-j1g6 ай бұрын
I have been thinking about using the bbs. Seems you could weigh it “dry” then add as needed to dial weight bias.
@chrisanders20528 ай бұрын
I run BBs on my deadbolt. They need to be counted, I’ve got 45 up front and 20 in the rear. The deadbolt is pretty much stock ( aluminum links, steel rims and upgraded servo).
@tonymunoz74008 ай бұрын
Dang it wish I would’ve known this 2 days ago. I just got done building my 3 piece wheels for my SXC24 and man was it a headache lol don’t want to take them apart again 😂😂
@mattb.23598 ай бұрын
But do they look cool? Yes. Just buy a set of cheaper wheels to do this with. And keep the cool wheels for lighter wheeling.
@carrrebuilds54258 ай бұрын
When using the BBs I usually add 20-25 in the fronts and 15-20 in the rear (bigger tire = more BBs. One thing I also do when using BBs is I cut my foams in half so they still fit snug around the ring but they don’t fill the tires so the BBs can always flow to the contact point of the tire.
@tmink1288 ай бұрын
I would love to see what you do with a power wagon. I've spent so much time getting mine to perform. I think if could do mini moab now. You can see how terrible it is stock on any sort of incline, it just rolls right over.
@CapeCrawlers8 ай бұрын
I'm on a mission to see what it can do now!
@tmink1288 ай бұрын
@@CapeCrawlers if you do your usual work I think you'll be impressed with how well it improves with some attention
@davidconaway28308 ай бұрын
Thanks for all of the effort, it was very entertaining. I'm gonna stick with Injora Silicone and brass;-)
@CK4RC7 ай бұрын
Well done. Cool experiment & comparison.
@jakeshaffer75728 ай бұрын
Have you ever ran the 64mm injora rock terran just installed them on my build and I am very impressed . I was wondering what is your best tire for a crawler and how to comp pins work
@wingnutbert96858 ай бұрын
Just watched the soap paint vid and then you sneak in another vid! Laying in bed, Cardi B snoring next to me with her head taking most of the pillow, coffee and another Cape vid. That's a good Sunday morning!
@annaharpley16738 ай бұрын
Hey Adam great video would love to see you try putting water in the front tires of some of your comp builds 🤙
@wingnutbert96858 ай бұрын
FYI: Solder coils would be much easier to do and more grams/inch. And if you can and want to go all out, hit a Stained Glass supply shop. They'll have solder that's thick like you're steel wire. Thicker gets you max weight with a single row of coils. If you try to do layers on top of each other, it gets messy and difficult to get even.
@wingnutbert96858 ай бұрын
I think you're getting close to needing a new indoor course pal. :D Maybe go 'Reactive Terrain' build method. Much better method than foam for sure. Great vid Adam! Thanks!!!
@pauldrulik24108 ай бұрын
you can get thick lead soldering wir to wrap around the spacer
@troypostie12528 ай бұрын
When using bb. Weigh em up for balance.👍
@calvinwolf71078 ай бұрын
I'm sure it's been said but for the BBS my general rule was if they don't roll freely without the rim then you need to take some out, and same general idea for the water, Don't fill it all the way try only fill the tire to 1/4 or 1/2 full that way the weight stays down low in the bottom half of the tire you'll notice your sidewall will improve tremendously, if you take a peek at 1/10 comp chassis they generally have a brass mount by the hubs to attach brass weights but with how its designed it's able to sit on the bottom, left or right side of the axle or all 3 and just make it really heavy on all 3 sides
@Footballbrockton8 ай бұрын
With the bb’s had it on my old ridgerock and we got a kitchen scale and a I little cup and put the bb’s in the cup so we could have the same grams in each wheel
@BahbahKaduche8 ай бұрын
or you could just count them
@RCCrawlerz2098 ай бұрын
I think Lite Brite did something similar with their 1:1 rigs...was very interesting to full tires with water. 🤔
@wingnutbert96858 ай бұрын
Boy, water tires were a surprise! Nice out of the box thinking! Love these kind of tests! I wonder how a thick oil like fluid would work? Or Non-Newtonian fluid?
@smeefbeef3678 ай бұрын
I’ve had a few people make fun of me for putting BBs in my crawler tires, just being total supremacist tools, and then I completely out-crawl them when they’ve spent $100+ on brass inserts. With the right tires, BBs make impossible lines just plausible enough.
@luluburch75008 ай бұрын
fyi i have seen hair scrunchies and hair buns used in RC tires, so may be worth a try
@greggrube29488 ай бұрын
Awesome video Adam 😁 Love the content
@Ryder6268 ай бұрын
Cool comparison What if you try less BB's ... Measure , weigh, or count out the BB's so that they weigh the same in each tire and also the same as the water did. Then try it again. Logically, if you put too many BB's in each tire, and it's too heavy, it can't go up a hill. So it makes me think if you do the same weight with water vs BB's what would crawl better. What is cool about the BB's is you can control the weight to fit your obstacle corse. Thanks for the video.
@extremex3canam7698 ай бұрын
I did the bb's to my smasher v2 a couple of weeks ago , only adding 24 grams to the front tires as I didn't know how much would be too much. It made a big difference. I have 2 smasher v2's , one for the wife. I also put the spools in , that's all I've done. Looking at getting a set of injora 70mm cling on 1.3 tires and there brass wheels. Looking for a suggestion on these tires or something better. Trying to make the smasher a crawler even though it's not. Thx for the comparison test. I guess I'm not the only one doing the bb trick.
@urdonercjeremyburris75418 ай бұрын
People use to do this stuff back at the start of rc crawling when they had to make crawlers by scratch
@brettfoulds26118 ай бұрын
I have found the bbs work better with stock tires where the rubber is alittle harder. Like trx4m tires. I used 45 to 50 bbs for front tires and 35 bbs on the rear
@CapeCrawlers8 ай бұрын
Makes good sense. The LGRP tires are so thin the BB's just loosely flop around. Stiffer tires would help a lot
@brettfoulds26118 ай бұрын
@CapeCrawlers maybe if you could cut and glue stiffer foams to the inner ring and have the bbs lay underneath the foam. But stock trx4m tires and the fcx24 blazer tires work better with the bbs. Great reviews really enjoy your videos.
@troypostie12528 ай бұрын
😅tripod action! I'm steeling that line Adam👍🤠👍
@johnnyhotshoe12928 ай бұрын
Man water looks pretty cool. I decided I would try it on a rig. Embarrassed to say I got the first one done before I realized ALL my tires I have at moment I have vented! Facepalm! *Does make for a neat 3 way shooting water gun when you bring it out of water and squeeze 😂
@tj_garage8 ай бұрын
I use bbs in my c10 that is a very light aluminum truck and that helps a ton. I tried bbs in my gladiator that is mostly brass with RCAWD portals and it didn’t like it very much with that. The bbs work better on lighter trucks
@DasE30Cuz8 ай бұрын
It's funny you make this video because just the other day my buddy (who works with binding jet printers and isn't into RCs) and I were pondering about putting tungsten powder into the tires. It would be a nightmare to attempt I imagine. Since you tried water, now you gotta try beet juice. Not seriously of course but it is an actual thing strangely. It's put in agriculture equipment tires as an alternative to water I think mainly because it has lower freezing point and is a little heavier than water.
@therealcletusrc8 ай бұрын
It’s Sunday funday! What’s on the bench?
@CapeCrawlers8 ай бұрын
I should bring that back
@petejones68278 ай бұрын
try soaking the foam inserts through a "water puddle" i hear you do that then go first in the comp and get the track all wet for your homies behind you :P all the while getting better grip than some stock foams
@petejones68278 ай бұрын
i think the tires with wire would of worked with a foam that is smaller to give more tire flex
@dukecarew8 ай бұрын
Hope to meet you one day at rc madness to show you my build you help inspire
@CapeCrawlers8 ай бұрын
I’ll be there for some events this summer. Definitely come find me 👍🏻
@SLatz188 ай бұрын
Now I gotta try some water in my rigs
@vpn_VR8 ай бұрын
😂
@Cbam8718 ай бұрын
What made you think of doing this?
@CapeCrawlers8 ай бұрын
I saw someone in a Facebook group mention the water idea. That was months and months ago and it's been on my mind ever since. My son and I were at tractor supply and I saw the wire and BB's and decided it was time to try them all at once!
@Cbam8718 ай бұрын
@CapeCrawlers very interesting for sure, that's neat. Be on the look out on social media I got 828rc making me a sick wt micro build 👀
@Cbam8718 ай бұрын
I've only heard of water in the tires with farm tractors. Otherwise this is quite interesting
@davidm.37728 ай бұрын
What flex blades do you use for your black betty trx4m? Could you please pin a link? Thanks!
@Matt-it8jh8 ай бұрын
Pool noodles are good.
@Sparroh8 ай бұрын
What tires are these again?
@HEAMTB8 ай бұрын
Lgrp grippers
@Sparroh8 ай бұрын
@@HEAMTB gotta get these, they look great.
@johnlujan87068 ай бұрын
I wonder if the water will eventually leak. 🤔
@wraptgrafix63388 ай бұрын
maybe weigh for each tyre so all are the same.
@dmanou8 ай бұрын
Why did you do the test by filling all four tires? Only the front should have been filled with the materials you chose! Instead of steel wire, you could use lead stripes. Anyway thanks for doing this testing for us!
@snörre238 ай бұрын
I wonder why manufacturers can't just figure out some insert that works best and make that standard for all tires. I am tired of tinkering around too much for the most basic things.
@wazeFPS8 ай бұрын
dont use steel, its fairly light and hard to work with, if you want a lot of weight use lead free soldering wire, i use the thich ones and they add a lot of weight, making it as heavy as a brass wheel
@boiledtea4797 ай бұрын
the last one was propably really AQUArd to install......
@CapeCrawlers7 ай бұрын
I see what you did there lol
@thatoneguyyouthought8 ай бұрын
Not me thinking about this for a 10th scale.
@Toodles778 ай бұрын
How bout some weight hangers? I know this is a budget thing but….
@Gibsonlife5738 ай бұрын
I don't get how this channel has blue passed all these dudes have been doing it way longer I'm not trying to be mean to you it just it's very very odd I know I had FB asked me to pay to get my stuff bumped up and get my view count up and I wasn't doing it you know and also after I become monetized My Views went way downhill but before I was monetized I was hitting a quarter of a million views in a month none of this seems right I'm not coming on here to Nag on you Adam at all I just like seems very very odd that I think anybody would say that right
@CapeCrawlers8 ай бұрын
I'll do a video on how I grew my channel. The topic is coming up a lot lately
@HEAMTB8 ай бұрын
Raise your hand if you watched every cape crawlers video 🙋🏻♂️