I Finally Experienced BEASTLY

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[@AmandaTheJedi]

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[@lollabunyxxx]

😅lol

[@AngelJuliet]

Did you change the title because it doesn’t seem that bad to me? 😅

[@angellittle1571]

​@@AngelJulietI can't see any of the bad comments, but I'm guessing people were reading it as "beastiality" ._.

[@lnt305]

@@angellittle1571 yeah just stumbled across someone saying in the comments that happened to them

[@gyllenspetzfamily7993]

It grew with me. I liked it more when I was younger.

[@quinnaddison420]

I honestly applaud the filmmakers and cast for pretending this wasn’t an extremely blatant post-Twilight cast grab

[@bethanychatman9531]

*cash grab

[@bigbearkat2010]

There were a lot of them at that time, maybe they were used to it

[@bigbearkat2010]

NPH though seemed to be pretty aware of what movie he was in and seemed to have the most fun with it. Kind of like how Alan Rickman chewed the scenery in that Robin Hood movie or when Christopher Walken is in a bad movie in general.

[@dianesaccomano2671]

Matt Smith in Morbius. 😂

[@weebten23]

Yes the movie was a crash grab but the book and Alex Flinn herself has a totally better and honestly more entertaining way of writing about redone ideas like Grimm fairytales. He wasn’t a supernatural creature, he got supernatural consequences for his actions as a surface level person. Her other books were amazing and well done too I recommend checking her out! They explore a lot more politic topics within these tropes as a results of the modernity of the stories.

[@TheNumnutRandomness]

11:11 Lindy: I'm not like other YA protagonists. I fall for the rich, popular asshole before his character development.

[@LunaWitcherArt]

If I had a drug addict for a dad and had to provide for my entire household before being 18yo I would also delude myself into thinking the rich jerk from school "is kinda nice, actually"

[@bigbearkat2010]

Right isn't that just one of the most basic things you can do?

[@minirth.maggie]

CHOKING ON MY WEED LAUGHING, dying now, send help...

[@suburbantimewaster9620]

It would make more sense if she started to fall for him after he gave her the flower. That way it could be justified by saying that she's so starved for affection she saw it as an act of kindness.

[@suis1822]

ngl, the concept of a man being cursed into being a fursona is a 100 times funnier

[@thecavalieryouth]

This is the first time you've ever experienced the highs and lows of Beastly?? Alex Pettyfer's excellent acting? Vanessa Hudgens' incredible capacity to overlook a multitude of sins and admire a bully? "EMBRACE THE SUCK"?!?!?! C'mon now Amanda!

[@TheNumnutRandomness]

Kyle: _is rude, sexist, and racist_ Lindy: Personally, I respected that he called things out as he saw them.

[@mundanepants]

@@TheNumnutRandomness They both sound like they voted Trump and would do it again too

[@SailorMya]

Yeah! It is a classic!!!/S

[@Alexagrigorieff]

@@TheNumnutRandomness is rude, sexist, and racist (also a rapist) ~50% of voters: Personally, I respected that he called things out as he saw them.

[@TheNumnutRandomness]

​@@mundanepants For their 10th anniversary, Kyle and Lindy took a very romantic trip to Washington DC in January.

[@abbey5899]

With adult hindsight I will always find it a bit funny that one of the reasons people bullied me in high school was because I was a goth and they believed I could do actual witchcraft. Like, if that was true, wouldn't it have resulted in the plot of this movie?

[@benzaiten933]

yeah exactly! if you truly believed someone was capable of magic and might do you harm, you'd either simply stay away from them or be extra nice.

[@alexroy5854]

Like (in the 80's especially) parents thinking their kids are learning real dark magics and evil summoning spells from D&D. So those parents.. burn their kid's shit?! My dude if you truly have reason to be upset than your child truly can just fireball your ass! XD

[@LuisSoto-fw3if]

​@@alexroy5854it's like people in the middle ages burning witches. If they were actually witches and consorting with the devil, then the plot of Castelvania would have happened lmao

[@LittleMaitea]

@@alexroy5854I GM a game for teens … how many of them wished to have eldrich blast we have one warlock and she is cheered on by her crew every fight And she also read the rules aka learned that she could flavour it … it’s a blast of thousands small purple butterflies with sharp teeth

[@mgntstr]

people burn women for being witches TODAY. Not in the west, but other parts of the world.@@LuisSoto-fw3if

[@trinaq]

In the book, Kyle transforms into a literal hairy beast. In the movie, he has a shaved head and tattoos, which actually suits Alex Pettyfer more than his clean cut look, and negates the point that he's supposed to be "ugly."

[@thomasraines1396]

My sister had the book at one point, literally the first page shows how different they are as Kyle claws into the witch’s skin and she simply heals herself.

[@audreym3908]

It's funny how guys with shaved heads and tattoos are actually hot lol.

[@noamasaf2668]

@@audreym3908tbh when i was like 14 the dude looked unnerving af. a bunch of face tats, deep incision scars and metal embedded into someone’s forehead is probably worse than bald with tattoos lmao

[@audreym3908]

@@noamasaf2668 true, but I meant without the face tats and other body modifications.

[@Zephyr_star_reads]

Yea…..he looks better as Hunter lolllll😂😂😂

[@otter.mayhem]

My coworker got a haircut and I saw him from across the sales floor and thought we had hired a new person. I'd definitely not recognize Kyle after he went bald and alt 🤣

[@queencleopatra007]

Lol same. If a person that I'm not very close to changes their hair, I'm not going to recognize them. Shoot, I've even been surprised that people can recognize *me* when I cut my own hair off 😂

[@Tollkirschenkind]

For me it's twins. If one has a slightly different haircut they don't look alike at all to me 😂

[@mariaskabardonis8353]

I was the same when a kid I was subbing got a haircut I almost didn’t recognize him and marked him absent and I told his mom that and she laughed and said she had trouble recognizing him to lol haircuts can make a difference

[@alannahd.7417]

The tutor’s response to “just the lake cottage” had me scream, I had the same reaction

[@kelseypeavyhouse9584]

I just remember having such an issue with the casting. 1. Kendra, who is explicitly written as being fat…played by Mary-Kate Olsen, who had an infamously public battle with anorexia. 2. Book Lindy’s a ginger with crooked teeth, and not noticeably attractive…yes, Gabriella from HSM, Vanessa being the actress every little girl idolized at the time, is ugly and unpopular enough to fit the bill. And then there’s NPH, and I approve.

[@kakyointhemilfhunter4273]

It's funny how all these shows and movies (especially in the 2000s-2010s) have ugly or generally unattractive characters played by literal models lol

[@funkyfranx]

She was only specified to be fat in the book. The movie moves away from that and her weight isn't mentioned (unless I am misremembering something).

[@carpevinum8645]

NPH improves everything, always

[@brookejones5085]

"awe cute now she doesn't have to date an uggo" is such a funny line

[@johnracine4589]

Which is why Shrek is superior art.

[@tmntaddict]

The intensity of your intermittent researching adds so much, and Kyle's tattoos are still better than Jared Leto's Joker.

[@minirth.maggie]

Omg hot take but PREACH IT

[@MissManicMellie]

Okay we need a High School Musical series (including Sharpey’s Adventure) retrospective. Please Amanda, as one Canadian to another, embrace the wildcats

[@elenabe4718]

UP

[@originaozz]

Yassss especially the second one! It's a must.

[@SoftFocusPerspectives]

What team?

[@lawsonrg01]

WILDCATS!!!

[@martemdn]

I unironically cried when rewatching the three movies as a teenager (when she gotta go her own way, when they graduate, ...)

[@alisfromwonderland5723]

regarding alex pettyfer - their attempt to make him into a "thing" was actually working back in the day but he blew it up himself because apparently he's a nightmare to work with according to what i read. channing apparently hated him during filming of magic mike because he was a total diva. i also read that he had to have a handler on set while filming beastly because they just couldn't deal with him. so that's probably why he went from up and coming leading man heart throb to wannabe gangster side character in a justin timberlake sci-fi romance.

[@ghinanaeem5723]

There was also his abuse of Dianna Agron. She got a restraining order against him, had to legitimately hide in different hotels for a while because he wouldn’t leave her alone

[@LaFlor718]

I had to reread the last sentence a few times because it just sounds batshit crazy 😂.

[@TKZells16]

I remember briefly how he confirmed himself to be a diva when he told everyone he was done with YA movies because he was too good for them. But hen Divergent was casting and it was revealed he auditioned. Oh the irony

[@justwonder1404]

It's been years and years and YEARS since I saw that movie and I still think Kendra was the coolest and wish the movie was about her walking around and teaching jerks lessons instead of whatever this was.

[@FrozenRoxas]

same! that would've been a lot of fun lol

[@minirth.maggie]

This all the way

[@ck5611]

Yeah were we supposed to love Kendra so much? 😂😂

[@toto.dreamer]

okay but shaving alex pettyfer and giving him tattoos in an attempt to make him "ugly" while accidentally making him even hotter is really funny to me

[@wooof.]

What happened to Alex Pettyfer is he is a known physical and emotional abuser and difficult to work with so he was blacklisted.

[@MagisterialVoyager]

he is??? 😱

[@simplerainbou]

I remember reading about him wanting a crazy amount of money to star in the City of Bones movie as if he was some super A lister actor :D

[@MagisterialVoyager]

@@simplerainbou that's honestly kind of weird, tbh, because at least to me his acting is... not great. but that's just my opinion. if he showed up with, like, Cate Blanchett's level of acting, then i kind of get why he wants to be paid a lot, lol.

[@bluessbelles]

@@MagisterialVoyagerhe and Diana Argon dated and throughout their relationship, he was very controlling over her. She had to hide from him at one point when they broke up

[@MagisterialVoyager]

@@bluessbelles poor diana. i had a rather unhinged ex myself and i still carry the trauma of being stalked because of the whole thing. if you felt like you had to hide from your ex, it just cemented that the breakup HAS to happen. i hope she's well and he... grows into a healthier person, i suppose.

[@danieltobin4498]

I actually met the author while I was in high school. She talked a bit about her book and asked us if we had any questions. I asked her "What makes a book young adult?" and her answer was along the lines of "The main character is a young adult" and she asked me what kind of book I wanted to write. I wanted to write a military history young adult book. She liked my answer and gave me a copy of the book. I never read it XD

[@LunaWitcherArt]

Where's the military history YA book, OP It is time Go write it, even if you think it would be terrible

[@danieltobin4498]

@@LunaWitcherArt You’re right. I’ll try and make something.

[@nellapuddin2434]

@@danieltobin4498do it do it do it!

[@danieltobin4498]

@@LunaWitcherArt Update. I'm going to try and make fanfics before moving on to making book books.

[@LunaWitcherArt]

@@danieltobin4498 Good strategy. I'm writing my own fanfic as well, drop the name and website when you publish yours!

[@Chikadulce10]

When I tell you this movie BROKE ME. I loved the book so much but the movie was an atrocity. They dare to use my favorite song in the trailer and I can’t believe the audacity 😂

[@DylanRomanov]

I read the book too and it was pretty good the movie was trash in every way

[@msjkramey]

What song is that?

[@sandythemaster6898]

@@msjkramey Transatlanticism - Death Cab For Cutie

[@hada__02]

Jenny Nicholson’s video on Beastly is still an absolute classic

[@SkwithOv]

TRUE

[@BlindZubat]

She is a treasure and a legend!

[@trinaq]

Preach, that's how I found her channel in the first place!

[@wildwesley9328]

I love that video

[@damnrapunzel8130]

Not me thinking Amanda had already done a video on this and then realising I was thinking of jenny's video 😭

[@Axel.Villasenor]

Jenny Nicholson's video was funny but she never dare to read the Books, so I do appreciate Amanda's effort and willingness to torture herself in the name of the noble goal of guiding us in what NOT to tune in, no matter how boring Friday night is 😁. And also for our entertainment. Definitely some Maximus level of commitment (Are you Not Entratained!?)

[@edenmyers5909]

fun fact: there is an alternate ending they filmed for this movie where he does "die" trying to save her and she confesses her love, last rose petal style.

[@lnt305]

If you don’t know about the third ending, I recommend doing a double feature with Jenny‘s video 😉

[@hugsfromdad]

I was looking for this comment

[@notshawnorsean]

Kendra and Wanda really pulling together the cinematic universe of Olsen sisters playing witches 🧙‍♀

[@kateworkman921]

I remember reading an interview the author did, (maybe it was in the back of my copy of Beastly?) where she talks about why Lindy's homelife was the way it was. If I remember right, she said that she wanted a believable reason for a daughter to *want* to get away from home. The father being an addict and someone who cared more about drugs than his own kid, and a coward willing to offer up his own child to save his skin was what the author landed on.

[@strawberry_silk3364]

HELP, I ACCIDENTALLY READ IT AS "BEASTIALITY" IM ROTATING IN HEAVEN-

[@swatisaini6447]

😂😂😂

[@petrosinella]

So, were you relieved or disappointed? 😂

[@faemonae]

A bit of context on the chatroom thing you mentioned in the beginning: the author exclusively writes "modern takes on fairytales" Beastly was just her biggest hit. She did sleeping beauty, the shoemaker, snow white, etc. I think the chatroom was a nod to that.

[@AmandaTheJedi]

yeah I meant to mention that I assumed that's what it was linking to!

[@alexiswatts649]

Regarding Alex Pettyfer, I think I remember something about Dianna Agron slapping a restraining order against him and that she hid from him in hotels while they were dating and he tried to seduce a director for a role and it didn’t go well for him. He got Magic Mike and then was blacklisted for a while. He seemed like a jackass and it caught up to him. Idk if he ever fully recovered 😅

[@graceterry8804]

I don't remember loving Beastly, and I haven't read all of the Kendra Chronicles, but I actually really enjoy Bewitching. It's an anthology of Kendra engaging with different fairytales throughout time, with the main throughline being a modern take on Cinderella but from the perspective of the stepsister. It's not amazing, but it's a fun YA read imo

[@aWildJellieAppeared]

I always feel like I would have been a bit disappointed if I was Lindy, having fallen in love with a brooding goth-y bad boy only for him to turn into a typical blond jock 💀

[@FootlessJo]

That surfshark integration transition was perfection 😆💜

[@AmandaTheJedi]

THANK YOU!

[@LunaBlackwing]

"Let me know if you have any interest in th--" YES! Please! I need all of the Kendra Khronicles!

[@dorothygale9648]

As someone who read the prequel, I can assure you that her real name is indeed Kendra.

[@AmandaTheJedi]

aha oh yeah, I realize that once I get to the books

[@thefinalfrontear]

“what’s with the mask??” “i didn’t want to freak you out!” is actually REALLY funny

[@elsie8757]

...So basically, instead of being Beauty and the Beast, this is the story of Gaston (if he had been turned into a beast) and one of the non-Belle village girls that swoon over him

[@Azura-wo8fm]

well that's right

[@kodychesire]

Jenny Nicholson is fucking hilarious and her video on Beastly (as well as pretty much her entire channel) is absolutely hysterical and very much worth checking out. One of the most effortlessly funny people I've come across on this platform

[@kairi99roxas]

Ive watched this movie multiple times and I would not recognize Hunter as Kyle, they look so different!

[@SkwithOv]

i'm faceblind so same lol but if someone wears their hair different or puts on/takes off glasses i also can't recognize them sooo

[@msjkramey]

​@SkwithOv so the superman disguise would actually work on you?

[@LunaWitcherArt]

The only thing that might give him away would be his voice. The scars make his bone structure look just different enough for me to doubt it is the same person

[@alpyki2588]

Funny story. I was one time rewatching a movie I'd seen about 5 times already (confort movie). There was a minor character that looked so familiar, but I couldn't place who he was played by. 6th viewing I realized it was the main actor, recast again as the main character's dad. I felt very silly.

[@msjkramey]

@alpyki2588 what movie/character was that? I'm bad with faces (plua I never wear my glasses), so I'm curious if I could tell

[@crazycookie4645]

One thing I kinda like is the little eye/flower tattoo that remains even after the curse is broken to serve as a reminder of the consequences of Kyle’s assholery so that he (hopefully) doesn’t repeat it. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a version of Beauty and the Beast do this before; have a small amount of the curse remain permanent, even after it’s broken, to remind the Prince/Beast of what being a cruel dickhead got him.

[@MyssBlewm]

I was going to go to bed but I need to hear what happened once Amanda embraced The Suck

[@tonieartemis]

I think you kind of glossed over how consistently awful Kyle was in the book. He was spying on everyone with that mirror, including watching people when they were naked without their consent. When he redoes those rooms for Lindy, he includes a bunch of clothes that are her size because he has looked for that information about her. He also goes into her room while she is sleeping at one point, and the book frames it as a sweet moment. It’s really messed up.

[@PerpetualJoy]

My highschool book club read this before the movie came out and then we went to the theater to watch together. I looooooved the book, and then i saw the movie and thought it was good. I saw movie for the first time again last year and was floored by how bad it was. I was like dang, was the book also this bad?? Re-read the book, its still pretty good! Kyle is way more sympathetic in the book and Lindy doesnt seem like such a sap, relationship is more fleshed out, it is a big darker with the abuse and kyles monster fantasies. The tone IS weird like she mentioned though. Heavy on the Y with the YA voice but some more A themes.

[@catnumber6967]

If you read Alex Flinn’s other YA novels, you’ll see Beastly was actually her first turn for the lighter. All her previous non-fairytale YA books are a lot heavier in what they deal with. Her debut novel, ‘Breathing Underwater’, is an absolutely incredible & important book that would be valuable to read in schools but it probably goes darker than most teachers want to risk touching. It’s about a high school boy who has to complete court-ordered anger management classes after his abusive relationship with his girlfriend becomes severe enough for her to get a restraining order, and the narrative alternates between chapters so you see him learning & improving while also seeing his former relationship get worse and worse, and some scenes get incredibly difficult to read

[@kriscynical]

Oh Amanda that book released the year I graduated from COLLEGE. 2007/2011 are, like, yesterday to me and any baby born after 2000 is still in elementary school.😂

[@bmljenny]

Same reaction, LOL. In 2007 I had been working 15 years in my post-Masters career. Time, how does it work.

[@kriscynical]

@@bmljenny As my younger sister (who is quickly approaching 30) says, "Time isn't real." lol

[@KingsandGenerals]

"Mostly ok" is such a vibe

[@restingsadface]

oh my god idk if anyone was expecting you to watch this but thank you. I’ve only ever heard about the book in passing so thanks

[@CorgiMomSarah]

"It's New York, so many other explanations would come up first" as a New Yorker, can confirm.

[@kittycheshire5099]

I was obsessed with the Kendra Chronicles in middle school. There were lots of interesting stories, like Cinderella but the Stepsister was the good guy, Princess and the Pea that results in Kendra being banished from France, an Ugly Duckling story about high school popularity, or The Little Mermaid on the Titanic, Eros and Phsyche story during WW1 (or maybe WW2, can't really remember). Also the Salem Witch Trials for reasons. I think that was supposed to be little red riding hood.

[@bluessbelles]

Wait, the eros and phsyche one actually sounds interesting. I need to look that one up now

[@CaulkMongler]

You couldn’t BELIEVE the amount of people who have said they were forced to watch this movie when struggling with body dysmorphia 💀

[@67Kalem]

I went to the pre-screening focus group for Beastly and a fun little trivia nugget is that the movie had a completely different ending. In the pre-release they end up at a school dance making out in a giant empty fish tank along the wall. It made absolutely no sense and I’d like to think they changed it because everybody ragged on it sooo hard 😂😂😂

[@happytofu5]

Stories like this are so hurtful to young people, because they imply that "you can fix the abuser with unconditional love". Especially bad when the family relationship also already was abusive.

[@alpyki2588]

There's a difference between people who want to "be fixed," and people who do not/will not/cannot be fixed. I'd argue that Kyle is already working on "being fixed" long before Lindy appeared on the scene. He's interacting with his tutor and his maid, and understanding that what he does is or behaves is not cool. He does a lot of introspection. He overhears how other people talk about himself, and realizes no one misses him. So he changes in response, because he is disgusted by what he was. To the point he changes his name to reflect that. He initializes his change, and just needs a little bit of help. I'd argue that even if Lindy did not happen, he still would've been striving for better. Lindy's father on the other hand, is a perfect example of someone no one can fix. He has multiple chances to turn around, multiple opportunities, but even after he *gave* *his* *daughter* *away* *to* *a* *monster* (that's one heckofa wakeup call), he still doesn't change. Even after she comes back for him, a net detriment to her. And in the supplement material? He still abandons her, possibly the only person who actually cared one iota for him. Lindy's father is at best a deadbeat with 0 redeeming qualities. The book, and especially the supplementary material, make it clear that Lindy should cut her loses and run.

[@Frank_D]

Another pretty cool take on the Beauty and the Beast story is the 1987 Beauty and the Beast tv series. It's a police procedural, starring Linda Hamilton and Ron Perlman. I don't remember much about it because I was still young at the time, and the beast scared the crap out of me, but the more I read up on it, the more I want to track it down and watch it.

[@minirth.maggie]

Written by George R R Martin, it was my EVERYTHING

[@Frank_D]

@@minirth.maggie I didn't know that! That's pretty cool!

[@k.a._135]

9:05 I never noticed the eye brow thing. They actually used cursive arabic letters to spell " embrace / suck " on each eyebrow. Pretty funny to me 😂👍🏼

[@elenacosta1040]

Is her real name "Linda," which means pretty/beautiful in Spanish? I guess that tracks with the original, her being called Belle and everything.

[@jiminssi1014]

This movie was IT for teen me at the time when i had a huge crush on Alex Pettyfer lol ESPECIALLY when they had the Beastly merch!! i remember going to Borders Bookstore & Toys R Us where they had a small section of many Beastly-themed items (blanket, pillow, bookmark, diary, calendar, pen, etc)...i got the blanket and i loved it so much...i don't even know where it is anymore or if i still have it lol

[@RANima71498]

I read the original book. It’s a pretty good read. It was one of my go-tos in my high school years, to the point that I was probably the one person in high school who had both the physical book and the audio book checked out at my school library at the same time. I haven’t yet seen the movie but I mostly avoid it because of the major changes it implements of both making Kyle’s “beast form” just a heavily scarred and tattooed human and also making Lindy a generic pretty girl instead of the intially homely girl we first meet her as. Lindy’s casting especially disappointed me as it was the first time I saw a Beauty in a Beauty and the Beast who wasn’t the most beautiful girl but instead was someone closer to my appearance (I’m not a red head like book Lindy but I am pretty mousey in appearance). It really showcased the message the best, and casting Vanessa Hudgens was such a let down. Also Kyle’s Beast form being an actual beast had a significant plot point that Jenny Nicholson pointed out: because it takes place in modern day, Kyle’s life was more significantly screwed up because he literally couldn’t go out or else he’d be either thrown in a zoo or killed, especially with how the internet would’ve made it impossible for him to hide again, unlike the original tale which takes place in 1700’s France where all the Prince had to do to hide his curse was…hide in his castle, something he already would be doing as a royal. And even more? The reason I gave for why Kyle’s curse was much worse in the book is actually used against Kendra because she’s part of a coven who are trying to hide in modern day, so what she did put them in actual danger of being discovered by the modern world, so she actually gets in serious trouble for what she did, as it was stupid and reckless. I’m just saying, this book is much better than it had any right to be, and it even influenced me as an aspiring writer.

[@Evelyn-pl3we]

God, I forgot about this film ENTIRELY but saw it in theaters with my sister. We LOVED it haha. Happy timesn

[@aliasfakename3159]

In the book, Kyle has 2 years and spent the 1st year getting used to being a beast and grows roses for therapy. The next year, Linda's dad breaks into his greenhouse and her dad gives Kyle his daughter to keep him from telling the cops.

[@jessicalukram74]

I'd love to see your take on the Fallen book series. They only make the first movie

[@PequenoGiant]

No Amanda. You don't understand the disruption that this movie caused for anyone who liked the book. Middle school me defended this ish with my life and recommended it to many. But then was ready to fight after seeing the movie 😂 Honestly, this book, the fallen series, and beautiful creatures (books and movie) feel like a twilight fever dream. But then I remember they're real, and I read them 💀

[@ladypool1404]

In the original; Belle learns to accept the Beast and help him learn to read; it was cute and when they dance together it was adorable. Their chemistry was real! In this movie: Beauty is more important than anything else. If you have tattoos and scars, your ugly. Weird message 🤨

[@benzaiten933]

in such stories the girls always have to do the heavy lifting. being beautiful and unreasonably good and kind (a goody-two-shoes) and accepting the horrid male character as he is. it's not like that guy has to work all that hard to get her to like him, and he doesn't have to court a 'ugly' girl either.

[@bigbearkat2010]

I don't know in Hunger Games at least, it seemed like Peeta was the one doing the heavy lifting emotionally

[@catnumber6967]

In the book at least, Kyle spends an entire year cursed before Lindy even shows up and actually does grow a lot as a person. He also tries perhaps *too* hard to get her to like him, they spend time becoming friends before there’s romance, & Lindy is described as being “plain” rather than beautiful

[@Lazysupermutant]

I feel like the beauty and the beast series back in the 90s did this a lot better, then again Ron Pearman at his peak playing a soleful outcast didnt hurt...

[@tabathaalshalhoub1653]

Yeah. I think Not Another Teen Movie did a great job pointing out that “glasses and a ponytail” makeover. The girls in these stories and movies are always beautiful, but this story is literally called *Beauty* and the beast. I personally would like an alternative version where the Beauty isn’t a beauty but that’s just me 🤷‍♀️

[@catnumber6967]

@@tabathaalshalhoub1653 the novel Beastly by Alex Flinn, Beauty by Robin McKinley, and Belle by Cameron Dokey are all batb adaptations that do exactly that. Heck, Curses by Lish McBride is gender-reversed batb, although it does wuss out by having her beast form something she can temporarily transform out of even before the spell is broken

[@metamaus5701]

I saw it randomly on TV while visiting my sibling a few years after the movie came out, never thought of it again, then people on KZbin made videos about it... thus acknowledging this movie existed.

[@RoseBraam]

Amanda going of in a HSM tangent and how she could really sing the song well if it wasn't 10pm is such a mood 😭

[@WishfulThinkingArt]

Honestly, the book is a time capsule of my adolescence. The book was one of the first young adult fairy tale retellings to capture my imagination and it was just cozy and cheesy and romantic and pretty much cemented my adoration of “Beauty and the Beast” retellings.

[@elle1107]

LOVED the book as a teen. It was how well he "knew her", with the library and the name on the door...I thought it was the most romantic thing ever 🙃 I think it was just that it was from the "pursuer" perspective. You usually saw the story from the heroine's point of view, especially in the books I was reading at the time. It was cool to see the male lead notice what was special about her

[@doublep1980]

Cursed Kyle looks like "We have the Pinhead Cenobite from Hellraiser at home..".

[@kikiimikii]

Okay am i the only one who didnt know it was based on a book and freaking ate this movie up as a teen. Like i loooved it and watched it countless times...

[@allisontaylor729]

I wasn’t alive when this movie came out but I read the book in 5th grade and loved it and swore to never watch the movie but last year I did and it was hysterical

[@trinaq]

Yep, I've never seen the movie, but I've seen plenty of clips online, and it doesn't do the book justice.

[@Scatscar1985]

In "High School Musical" Vanessa's character Gabriella was a math wiz who was nervous about singing.

[@MurderMePeacefully]

Kendra's sadly an actual witch, you find out more about her backstory/past failures with curses in Bewitching. Duel POV with a Cinderella sideplot [main character is the stepsister], and then interspersed through it is Kendra's backstory and her past attempts to help, such as with the Little Mermaid [Though she admits she regrets the voice price, and that it was just the first thing she thought of].

[@maka8746]

Also you learn that Kendra teaches someone else witchcraft in mirrored. Her character is so interesting in every fairytale

[@thomasraines1396]

Oh that’s really interesting.

[@audreym3908]

Ok why didn't they just go with Kendra spinoffs instead?

[@MurderMePeacefully]

@@maka8746 Oooo, I haven't had a chance to read Mirrored just yet! Library hasn't had it, but very much excited about it

[@MurderMePeacefully]

@@audreym3908 I think they wanted to test the waters a bit to see how readers liked Kendra, as she's a side character/the friend of the stepsister in Bewitching in addition to her backstory/past antics sections. I personally love her humor and how she responds to things, and the fact she watches 'trash' TV to find the next person to help is just. Top tier.

[@TheMonarchofMonarchs933]

I've played the Wii game for this. The game was lackluster. Felt cashgraby but I didn't know it was based on anything. But it makes more sense with the knowledge of your video.

[@AmandaTheJedi]

fuck i forgot to mention the game I think it's HILARIOUS that it got one

[@lnt305]

Jenny Nicholson‘s video goes into the video game and is absolutely hilarious! Definitely recommend watching these two videos as a double feature!

[@thomasraines1396]

There was fucking game?

[@TheMonarchofMonarchs933]

@@thomasraines1396 Yes, for at least the Wii. Not sure about any other devices. Look it up if you're curious.

[@kyleeandwaffles]

This movie reminds me of that CW show ‘beauty and the beast’. Does anyone remember that one??

[@thomasraines1396]

I remember bits and pieces of it, I remember how the main chick’s dad was involved in the super soldier program or whatever it was.

[@creepydude94]

8:50 HOLY FUCK I never realized his eyebrows say "embrace suck" LMAO

[@Croakersilent]

To explain why Lyndi didn’t recognize Kyle: aside from the fact the movie didn’t make him a literal beast, was that in the book in his time of self discovery he lost every bit of his confidence and actually became a quiet hearted poet. So in a sort of “Superman/Clark Kent” sort of style he became so drastically different than his old self to the point he’s unrecognizable. I remember the movie pissing me off when they made it feel rushed…. Course I may also be misremembering in favor of the book cause this was one of my favorites.

[@katemacdonald3765]

Attempting to read this book in my teens is one of the many, maaaaany reasons my debut novel was a Beauty and the Beast retelling: I wanted a version involving no kidnapping or bargaining, where Beauty is not imprisoned by the Beast. Forced proximity = great. Imprisoning your love interest = not that.

[@impposter560]

I borrowed this movie from the library and watched it on my crummy, paving stone of a laptop. Literally all I remember of the experience is thinking "Well, I'm definitely not reading that book", and watching a Tony Jaa movie immediately after 😂Which also had a tragic elephant story too, now that I think about it

[@minirth.maggie]

What, ANOTHER sad elephant story no why God help us

[@oliviarogers2808]

The book is awesome. I also highly recommend Alex Flinn's other books, especially A Kiss in Time which SHOULD have been a movie.

[@DesMuttYS]

According to KZbinr Abitfrank, the part about the girl dreaming about the beast is canon to the fairytale. There's a point where every night, the fairy that had cursed the prince made Belle have very vivid ADULT dreams about the beast. So, that is not something the author added, but brought back from the early versions of the story.

[@Azura-wo8fm]

I don't know this abitfrank, but in the 2014 version of beauty and the beast (la belle et la betê) belle had dreams not with the beast but with her human form as a prince, beauty basically saw the memories of the prince's late wife , which he killed in an accident caused by his stubbornness in wanting to hunt defenseless animals, and I knew that in the original tale the fairy/sorceress made the belle have dreams about the prince every night, but I don't know if they were adult dreams, depends on the version of this fairytale

[@DesMuttYS]

@@Azura-wo8fm She's a youtuber who makes animated videos. Often they are deep-dives into fairytales and mythology. Some times she will even do comparisons of the same or similar stories, and explore their origins.

[@RetroDanceMonsterxX]

I haven't forgotten your promise to cover the mortal instruments / shadow hunters. IT HAS BEEN YEARS AMANDA

[@AmandaTheJedi]

IT'S COMING IT TAKES SO LONG I'VE HAD TO WATCH THE SHOW MULTIPLE TIMES

[@michelcomenta]

that movie is my guilty pleasure, I can't help but love it

[@MaraMara89]

I am not even surprise that book from that time suggest that housekeeper is Polish... Magda is Polish name and Poles was mostly shown as housekeepers during that period (like in Gossip Girl). But you saying Magda the witch sounds better was funny - it is really popular name, I would say it sounds soooo mundane (it is almost as popular in Poland as our versions of Anne and Kate)

[@KapowskiReads]

I saw this at the cinema when it came out, and have it on dvd (I haven’t owned a dvd player in about 10 years) I feel so old now😸 I loved MK Olsen in this, she stole the show and I think about her outfits a lot

[@marissadaily619]

When I was a middle schooler this movie was my favorite I thought it was so edgy and cool but now I watch it to remember the cringe and how much of I’ve grown as both a reader and movie watcher … we all have our fan fiction moments 😂

[@Embroideredjune]

I’m surprised you didn’t talk about how Mary Kate Olsen was clearly green screened into the high school scene!!!

[@ricobuttonpusher7061]

As a Mormon missionary in Argentina this played on one of the buses we were traveling on. At this point I hadn’t even hugged a woman in 10 months so my hormones were at an all time high watching Vanessa. Few years later I got to meet her 😂 anyways this movie is ass but my guilty pleasure

[@LoonyTunes]

I was staring at this man going "I recognise him and the feeling is positive so where tf do I know him from" and the second I hit enter on the google search for his name it hit me: he's the love interest in Wild Child, which is one of my absolute favourite movies

[@catwmn2345]

Oh yes, my Sunday night is about to be epic!! There was a book? Guess I know what I'm reading later. So long since I watched the movie, but I remember blind NPH and a witchy Olsen twin. And from what I've read, seems Pettyfer was basically playing himself at the start of the movie.

[@r.maciel2544]

I am so glad you have now experienced the brilliance of Beastly

[@chazjohannsen]

The core memory I associate with this movie is the SNL parody where Andy Sanberg’s Kyle is transformed into Decklin and says, “Oh no! I’m BEASTLY! AAAAAAHHHH”

[@marielaberge8236]

Erik Knudsen (Scream 4 guy) was also in the canadian sci-fi series Continuum and I freakin love him in it

[@carlyhope]

I enjoyed the book a lot. Her takes on fairytales are really interesting. Cloaked was really good. And I liked her take on Sleeping beauty as well. Never saw the movie though I do own the DVD. Kendra is actually a really intriguing character in the books. Bewitching gives more background on Kendra, it's sort of a mix of different fairy tale stories with the main one being Cinderella with a twist. Mirrored does as well but this one is really good take on Snow White. I'm still reading the fourth one.

[@larkspurjane]

I watched the movie before I ever knew there was a book. When I found the book I was so surprised at how different it was.

[@lelalu101]

I read them when/before the books released because my mum was in book club with Flinn. I was in middle school and reading them, they were great at the time. But the movie was weird, and I didn't end up reading most of the companion books.

[@kiimdahyun]

i’ve just seen your tweet so i feel like i have to clarify that i was indeed alive (age in multiple digits) when this movie came out

[@Antigone1Evenstar]

I worked in a bookstore for five years. We had those books. I’ve watched people talk about the movie before. I NEVER put two and two together until now. Cursed knowledge.

[@nallainductions]

So, I have a unique history with this movie. I have worked at my local movie theatre for an embarrassingly long amount of time. Back when this movie was coming out, the theatre was running a contest between the other theatres in the area over who can do the best advertising, or spirit display, or something, for a movie. I don't know if it was picked for us or if it was assigned, but for some reason the movie we had for this was, as you can guess, BEASTLY. The windows were painted with BEASTLY themed drawings, an elaborate picture taking area was created, purple and green streamers, and tinsel were everywhere, because I guess that was the colours we decided were BEASTLY colours(?), and we were encouraged to dress up (which I didn't) which featured the gung-ho manager coming in on opening night dressed like Kyle, fake tattoos, bald cap and all. This was all for a movie that came and went from theatres with no impact. When I saw Jenny Nicolson's video titled "Nobody on the Planet Remembers Beastly" I said to myself "No, Jenny, I do remember. I remember very well!" I should ask if we have any pictures of this lying around somewhere. I still remember it well, but since we never did this kind of promotion for any other film again, I always view this campaign as some kind of weird fevered dream.

[@daralic2255]

I need the Kindra Chronicles! She just sounds like a magical troll just screwing with ppl! I must know more

[@YSO992]

The cast in this movie is insane. Faces that were not that recognizable back the but are now, like seriously, the dad is Captain Nash from 911. How did he go from this to acting with Angela Bassett playing her husband? Lol

[@thishandleisntalreadytaken]

I just realised that the author also wrote a book that I read about the frog prince (called cloaked)? I read it like 8 years ago, but remember liking it, curious to see what beastly was like.

[@AmandaTheJedi]

yeah i come to the realization that there's an entire 'kendra chronicles' series

[@weebten23]

Ok but Alex Flinn and all her other fairytale young adult books literally saved me in school. A Kiss in Time (sleeping beauty) and Towering (rapunzel) were my favorites please check them out if reading!!

[@clarisselarue151]

Omg yes please on the Kendra chronicles

[@TRPY_PPS]

I want to see Amanda handle the rest of the Kendra chronicles so badly. It’s been so long since this video.