I FINALLY listened to Lorna Shore’s “Masterpiece”

[@DrewFortune97]

Fight me

[@Lilith_Reaver]

i never would.

[@roryasrorri701]

no

[@TEXAS_SKOLDIER]

I’ll fight WITH you, got your back bro! 👊🏻

[@airsicklowlandr]

Bring it

[@metal4life270]

Bet

[@airsicklowlandr]

*But within the expanse, I finally see A world without you isn't meant for me* Gets me every damn time 😭😭😭

[@DrewFortune97]

My favourite lyric is “RAWRRRRRRRRRRRAHHHHHHHHH”

[@jctheii]

SAME DUDE FUCKKK😭😭

[@airsicklowlandr]

@@DrewFortune97 true deathcore connoisseur

[@alexkincaid-beal5129]

Love your username btw 😄The fantasy book enjoyer to heavy metal enjoyer pipeline is real to me

[@airsicklowlandr]

@@alexkincaid-beal5129 thanks bro. Rock is definitely my favourite character in the book. Ya I just recently got into metal within the last year, but I can see the connection for sure

[@OdinPG]

Bro sat down for a 20-minute trilogy and then got mad that it was 20 minutes...

[@RDB93]

Wouldn’t you be mad too if it sucked? Lol

[@ozymandias_times9663]

@@RDB93 Good thing it doesnt suck, that'd be bad

[@Nightwalk444]

Doesn't suck but the 2 other songs are too similar to 1 imo.

[@seantimmons5900]

​@@Nightwalk444So you're saying the trilogy sounded like one song in three parts.... Um.

[@seantimmons5900]

​@@RDB93Huh. A Floyd fan talking shit. Go listen to Several Species on repeat.

[@alessandromalvasi7768]

"Streamer put himself in a situation and then complains about it"

[@DrewFortune97]

lol, someone requested the song

[@vripidiskiparissis511]

TOTAL RESPECT, you are a real reactor I knew you were, but that was a clarification that you trully are. You didnt hold back to indeed a masterpiece and voiced your opinion which is based on your different taste. I personally like this trilogy a lot, but I really get why you dont because you explain it very well here. Hope to see more honesty from reactors like you do drew. With love

[@jctheii]

Oh god Drew💀💀

[@353darkesthour]

Just saw them play this start to finish in Coney Island. Man, that was fucking majestic.

[@DarrenHeywood]

The sensory overload thing is so true. I actually love these 3 songs and I think they may be the band's best composition to date. However, listening to the full album is exhausting. It's just breakdown after breakdown. The album's opening track (maybe my least favourite song on the album) has 3 breakdowns on it. Sun // Eater is a perfectly executed Lorna Shore song if you ask me. Sincerely, a Lorna Shore fan.

[@Joose]

Welcome Back, O' Sleeping Dreamer is the shiiiiiit. Favorite on the album.

[@ThaBeatConductor]

@@Joose Same, fucking love that chorus.

[@typofan]

This was painfull to watch...and i didn't mean the trilogy

[@yasaldesilva]

right?

[@alexkincaid-beal5129]

This is a great reaction because I usually prefer to watch reactions where people like the music, but this critique I actually don't mind at all hearing. Glad you tried it! Fun to get a reminder every now and then that not every metal enjoyer is into this sound. That said, I just saw this performed live last week and it was amazing!

[@tracyraines1059]

I don't even like death core music and those kinds of screams but this just gets me and i can listen to it over and over and i get chills every time

[@johanhansson6517]

I start my mornings nowadays with this trilogy 😆🤘🏻

[@uniservicemann3186]

Never thought id see the day, drew listening to the 20 min blast beat symphony. Personally i like Lorna a lot, but im pretty easy to musically please, so i 100% get where your coming from. Love your channel man. Keep it up with the most honest reactions :)

[@Skyzeeve]

This trilogy is MASTERPIECE

[@thewretch4081]

* starts the song uninterested * Impossible to enjoy something acting like that isn't it?

[@DrewFortune97]

Well yeah, I knew I didn’t like their sound going into this and the 3 tracks did absolutely nothing to change my mind 😂

[@thewretch4081]

@@DrewFortune97 to each their own I guess

[@HeavyReign12]

Soulless Existence was the only song on this album I really liked because of that one mid-tempo riff. The album was definitely fine though, Sun//Eater was great too. I was really into the first EP with Will, but the album just didn't click with me as much as I wanted it to.

[@Brav0Nine]

i honestly think they thought about how much it pounds you for 20 minutes straight is why they released them weeks apart at a time, i listened to them as they came out, i struggle to listen to deathcore because its so f*cking much going on at once, but i do like these tracks, especially the second one because the solo gives you the experience of being all over the place sonically and fits into what the lyrics are. but to sit through all of them on a first listen, i could only imagine was tough. kudos

[@nyctophilex7]

I love this so much, disappointed you couldn't get into it, but respect your opinion.

[@MaynardsSpaceship]

I feel like that about Sleep Token.

[@Tomatokillz]

Based

[@MaynardsSpaceship]

@@Tomatokillz Cope

[@optie5]

@@MaynardsSpaceship he literally complimented ur taste bro 💀

[@Justin-nq6kf]

If you want Lorna Shore's masterpiece in my opinion its Immortal. Its still their best song imo its better than all three of these songs combined.

[@DeeDee-eb6fe]

Absolutely not the reaction i expected, but it's your honest opinion and that's OK! Nevertheless the slighly agitated way was a bit unusual for a Drew reaction ...😉😮 Maybe it would've been more digestable to do one part after the other.

[@missinbrain]

One thing I find so amazing about this trilogy is actually the guitar solos. They are so emotional and expressive.

[@morbid_999]

this dude chirping, tryna be different

[@DrewFortune97]

What about the possibility that someone doesn’t share the same music taste as you?🤯😱🥵‼️🔥

[@morbid_999]

😜🤓☝😩😩🥱🔥

[@MadailinBurnhope]

Drew, do you like (Celtic) Folk Metal? I'd love to see you react to Eluveitie, maybe Ategnatos, their most recent (and best imo) album. They're Swiss, often sing and tell stories in old Gaulish, and have plenty of Irish influence, as well as Melo Death; I love them.

[@margidda]

hahaha ok bro, i didn't get the reaction i thought i was going to get, but it was funny asf

[@jaymzOG]

I'm with you on blast beats. They can add some spice when used veeerrryyy conservatively, but I just can't get into music where blast beats are front and center. I just appreciate it from afar.

[@redday3520]

HOW CAN YOU NOT FEEL THE GRAND FINISH? IDK HOW YOU DONT LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ITS PURE ENTERTAINMENT

[@FLmetalhead]

It does get a lil repetitive. My gripe for them is every song is basically the same. They are great live though.

[@seppdaniel_]

Amazing Lorna Shore's song

[@brianjj6667]

I honestly really love your honesty and you arent over the top pretending like most reacters,

[@mustbewasabi]

their masterpiece is the album "flesh coffin"

[@ghosttonesg]

Flesh Coffin is amazing

[@decay5972]

Easily their worst record

[@corey_clip]

Flesh Coffin is leagues better than Pain Remains

[@BlaZe-pl4ym]

Hey Drew, if you want a good Deathcore band who I think is not only better but very underrated is DeadVectors. They have Thall elements and I think you’d dig them a lot.

[@cocoacrimson]

I listen to the full 20 minute version almost everyday, it’s damn good music so it’s time well spent😌

[@ubiquinoxxrosiles2766]

I guess ... Pain Remains... Right? 😅

[@shkerns4009]

Their show at the Academy in Dublin this summer was insane

[@kieronallsop8855]

As was the Limelight up the road in Belfast. Awesome. Place went nuts.

[@MrElnino724]

Bro just say you've never been through some serious shit in your life.

[@manuelvelasco2396]

Masterpiece 🙏🏻

[@martyfrancis1011]

Someone should reimagine Lorna Shore songs in reference to the drumming. Change the drumming and you will get some completely different. It's the constant in your face blast beats that makes their music exhausting.

[@monkvsiron]

The Wise Man’s Fear shoutout tho 🎉

[@seditious1627]

Honestly, I respect you for being willing to be harsh in the critique.

[@AisakiBarokko]

thanks for the reaction!! I have a question, what did you drink?

[@spencertrainer8488]

I can never shame someone for their opinion, but i can't agree. I think there is an obvious emotional there for people who click with it that i feel like, in my opinion, even if it doesnt hit you personally, is easily identifiable and masterful.

[@muhammadosama4383]

lmao this whole video was funny af , you're getting into comedy now xDDDD , i agree with u tho , i fall asleep 30 seconds listening to them , the whole album sounds like white noise , literally static

[@realmboy9086]

That's why the opening track is called Welcome Back O' Sleeping Dreamer

[@VoidHxnter]

It takes a long time to build up the mental fortitude to be able to listen to entire albums of this stuff, so it's completely understandable that you wouldn't like it. Once you do eventually build up that fortitude though, it's awesome. But you might not ever build up that fortitude and that's alright. It would help trying to turn volume down more than other songs with stuff like this, it'll help with your ear's stamina and you'll be able to enjoy it a lot more. Don't know if you did that or not but that's what I did getting into extreme vocal genres.

[@MadailinBurnhope]

"obviously I don't mean 1/10, alright, 1/10 is pretty harsh" 😂

[@Anton_Glz]

More like Borena Snore, amirite? Hehe. Like I’ve said before, this band live: very entertaining and fun to see them displaying their talent. Studio: meh.

[@omalleycc1921]

You really messed up the end part. The song (and the video) wasn't finished.

[@AtomicBear18]

BRO FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And never apologize for not liking something. Music is all subjective anyways. ✌🏻

[@Insidious1420]

I mean, can we talk about the drummer??? Dude is Soooo sick!!!!!

[@ernonikkola1084]

I like the trilogy and LS in general, but honesty gets the video a like. You like what tou like, and that's a like.

[@SamMakesTrouble]

Drew going on the warpath today I’m here for it 🫡

[@hellrider224]

Ja.... that's what I said when I heard the trilogy for fist time. And now... I've heard it about like 100 times...🤷‍♂ That's how it works. Slowly getting stuck in your head and feelings.

[@mistasugafree]

Crown magnetar.-everything bleeds. Please

[@corey_clip]

Hop in a stream and request a song! We have a lot of fun in there

[@TheJoeyBones]

You: I need like a week in between each part to process what is going on Pawn Stars guys: Best we can do is several well placed solos and musical breaks

[@flowermoon...]

People overestimate it too much🤪 The reaction is very restrained😅

[@pavelcristi9589]

honestly best way to express yourself is being honest about it

[@ckokomo808]

I’ve tried to listen to this a few times but it never made it through, until now. Mind you, I was typing my comment the entire last song, so I wasn’t really listening. To me, the formula is very “same-y” so although it’s a wall of sound, it’s the same wall of sound. Nothing really stands out to me. Their formula, is epic intro, fast riffage with some melodic noodling, chorus, breakdown, verse, chorus, solo, heavy breakdown, final key change. It works but it’s repetitive and makes the entire piece (and album) drag. I can appreciate what LS (and love what they’ve done for the metal genre in general!) do but my critique would be to alter their formula to have a bit more subtlety which, might, add a bit more punch to their wall of sound. I also think a bit of restraint would allow for them to shine in a different way. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Drew and being honest.

[@Hoserzzz]

It gives "needs subway surfers overlayed on youtube shorts to retain attention"

[@DarkShadow1953]

Do you like Darko US?

[@codybeinert1109]

I have such mixed feelings about this trilogy personally. I get why people love it, and it's totally valid, and each of the three individual songs in this trilogy are really enjoyable, but the piece as a whole, especially in context with the whole album, just feels like three more Lorna Shore songs that just so happen to be relatively connected to each other but are still structured really similarly. Ultimately, this was my biggest disappointment with Pain Remains. Seeing a 3-part 20+ minute epic with a 9-minute song as the closer got me super hyped, and convinced me that Lorna were going to do something relatively progressive and varied with that, kind of like what bands like Wilderun, Persefone, and Shadow of Intent did earlier last year. But the way they made a 3-part 20+ minute piece is by......just making 3 more pretty typical Lorna Shore songs. Again, REALLY GOOD Lorna Shore songs, but still. How the hell do you make a 9 minute song that just sounds like every other song from the album??? LOL

[@ngaugeblading9690]

All the blast beats and double kicks just make it sound like an exercise than music to me. I need music with more dynamic natures and groove. To me that has more sense of feel

[@calebs7723]

Idk, I have hella trouble getting into other deathcore bands because of lack of melody, emotion, and meaning, lorna just does it all right for me idk

[@L0rd0fChaos]

..... and i took that personally.

[@lorenzvo5284]

If you ever feel any doubt about doing honest reactions like this. Lemme tell you this: Stahp

[@seanofarrell8896]

Just shows a band as brutal aa Lorna shore can help promote mental health

[@ForeverBloom]

I’ve been listening to deathcore since 06, but I’m not even that huge of a fan of Lorna. Of the Abyss, And I Return to Nothingness, oh Sleeping Dreamer and Pain Remains I are the only songs I go back to regularly.

[@airsicklowlandr]

And those riffs during the blasts....my god

[@DrewFortune97]

Midna Shore

[@DrewFortune97]

God that feels good to get you back with

[@airsicklowlandr]

@@DrewFortune97 unsubbed

[@DrewFortune97]

@@airsicklowlandr😂😂😂

[@airsicklowlandr]

@@DrewFortune97 now for you not to hate my album today 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Joose]

Certainly get where you're coming from, sir. Thankfully, I listen to this kind of stuff every day and have for many years... so, to my ears, these songs sound wildly different from each other. To me, they are beautiful works of art. But I mean hey, it's kind of like when I see a bunch of reactors drooling over these modern metalcore bands like Erra, Silent Planet etc... like, I get it, it's good music, but to me it's just so basic, predictable and all structured the same. Music taste is funny that way.

[@thegamescholarz6326]

I mean, individually maybe it wouldn't be so overwhelming, but of course it's a trilogy. Plus, it's not your cup-o-tea. Which is fine, whatever, you don't HAVE to like it. But, you appreciate the work, and that's the point. I dislike a lot of music, but I can appreciate it for what it is/does. Hope you don't get too much hate for not worshipping the series.

[@CthulhuTheGAWD]

What da heck? This monster didn’t even shed a single tear at the end of Pain I.

[@DrewFortune97]

😂😂😂 not even trolling I couldn’t tell you one lyric bro….how am I supposed to get emotional to something when I have no idea what’s being said?🫤

[@OdinPG]

@@DrewFortune97 dont you normally have the lyrics up?

[@DrewFortune97]

@@OdinPGfor albums yeah, this was just on stream😢

[@OdinPG]

@@DrewFortune97 I can understand not listening to the songs again if its not your cup of tea (deathcore isnt for everyone) but I would highly recommend at least giving the lyrics a skim online to see what the hype is about. This trilogy is masterfully written.

[@trevzy91]

I've always felt that this edit of the three songs together ruins the experience, especially of a first listen. Like Drew said, he needed a week between to process. And yeah, first time through its really intense on the ears.

[@TimeNeverWaits95]

Honest review from an honest guy. I still don't like deathcore, but this trilogy made me more empathic to the deathcore fans. I love this 3 track and will always listen with joy but Invent Animate is Invent Animate 😅❤️

[@The_KlaVra]

Totally off the topic, but jesus christ that mug that you were drinking smoothie is fucking MASSIVE... And I knew you were going to hate it, but I still love that you are honest.

[@ihteshamkhan4696]

the best song on the album is without a doubt Soulless Existence. it sounds the most different, the most unlike Lorna Shore, and frankly I find it to be many times more emotional than the Pain Remains trilogy. It actually became my favourite song of all time and actually made me cry several times (once you understand the lyrics). if you’re up for it, i recommend checking that out. the guitars sound like they’re crying in the solos. and there is no blast beat overload either.

[@CummyPancakes]

Gpt tickets to see the live in Stockholm at the end of the year. Looking forward to it all.

[@andrebrodbeck3883]

Perfect for a funeral!

[@wintdah7778]

Ngl, Part 1 is the only one I actually like. It just has a good balance between insanity and space + it doesn´t go to the obviuous places that part 2 and 3 go. When it comes to those parts, it just falls flat for me. Instead of building emotion through understandable lyrics and nice melodies they just go higher and faster over and over again. by the end of part 2 and 3 you basically have pure noise coming from everywhere as soposed to the clear yet emotional catharsis in part one.

[@joshuarobbins9592]

You cant force yourself to like a genre that you dont like. Especially when you go in to it with a contrarian point of view.

[@Finkele1]

Thx talking exactly when pt 2 guitar solo beautiful part started...well done. It's like middle finger to ppl who have spend their life to learn instrument exceptionally well...but yea, it's your reaction so yoiu can do what ever you like.

[@daetros1626]

It wouldn't be fringe music if it was for everyone 😜

[@MrDoBaKflips]

Lol I definitely get it

[@jctheii]

Full Lorna Shore album reaction when?

[@MaynardsSpaceship]

💀

[@airsicklowlandr]

Next

[@lakabaka]

I respect you so much for this. I thought i was going crazy for having the exact same response. seeing reactors breaking down crying from this.. Like wtf ? Every song is the same formula, same melodies, same drumpatterns. I get bored after half a song Subbed !

[@Joose]

"Same formula, same melodies, same drum patterns" All that means is that it isn't a style you listen to much of, because what you said isn't even remotely true. There's opinion, and then there's just being flatout wrong.

[@somabul4]

@@Joose you could say all that if you knew laka but idk bruh. I also wish the 3 songs had more distinction and progression throughout then, but they maintained a lot of the same energy which can be quite fatiguing and monotonous.

[@Joose]

@@somabul4 Is that not most bands though? Bands have a sound, unless they're "prog" bands... which are super hit or miss for me, because they usually feel like they don't have an identity. I think it's just that bands who fall into the "sensory overload" categories have so much going on that it can be difficult for a lot of people to distinguish between songs, which I totally get. But, to my ears, all 3 parts of this trilogy are very different from one another. The literal "energy" may be similar throughout, but the vibes are so different, even without the videos. But, I say this as someone who has been listening to music full of blast beats and fast riffs for a very long time, and it's really all that I listen to on most days.

[@Joose]

@@somabul4 To be honest, I kind of rely on reaction channels these days to find music that isn't just destroying my senses lol. What I find interesting is that someone like Drew feels the way he does about Lorna, while being all about someone like Humanity's Last Breath. "Ashen" is my AOTY at the moment, but that album is the same kind of thing, just slow. You know what you're getting with every song, every vocal part, every beat, every riff, every atmospheric layer... they have an identity.

[@EnergeticxCheese]

@@Joosethese songs definitely all have a different feel to them. Personally I’ve never understood the “constant blast beats” criticism. Yeah there’s blasts going on but Austin has crazy fills all over the place. Combine that with the insane guitar riffs and Will’s vocal delivery and all of their songs make me feel something vastly different

[@RedCap-vz1dw]

This whole trilogy made me cry my fucking eyes out

[@im7ip]

ngl i feel like this about the new Humanity's Last Breath album. It's just so loud

[@CamilaSilva-ld1or]

I get it but the tempo hits totally different.

[@im7ip]

@@CamilaSilva-ld1or yeah i meant it in the overload way. Ashen is just so much sound and really loud. my head aches after 4 songs. it's just too much for me

[@matidfk5171]

@@im7ip this is what all of thall has been building up to all those years i feel like. buster has been finding interesting ways to spice up the mixes and ashen is the pinnacle of it right now. it also helps if you listened to the singles as they released them, theyre nicely spread out through the album but theres still chunks of completely new music. i feel like the very heavy mixing adds to the atmosphere element which i havent found in any other band

[@im7ip]

@@matidfk5171 yeah i listened to all the singles and i like all songs on the album tbf. but to listen to all those songs back to back is just too much for me. i don't mind them if they come on on my playlist tho. i think i just prefer the Thall Vildhjarta does

[@airsicklowlandr]

That album is legit just noise with no emotion

[@doctajuice]

I personally have a really love/hate relationship with Austin's drumming. As a drummer, I'm completely blown away by what he's capable of. But also a lot of the time I'm like bro just chill out you don't have to play every drum at once. But also I know that without that, Lorna's music would be much more generic and not nearly as exciting. He's kinda what sets them apart from the rest of the symphonic deathcore that's going on these days. I just don't know how to feel about it

[@lights0ut20]

Yeah I thought about it too, Lorna is like 75% blast beats but that is what sets the energy of the songs and the level of intensity. I hated blast beats when I started listening to deathcore but I'm so used to them now.

[@Eccentricjuices]

If there were less blast beats, the music still doesn’t have to be generic. There are multiple drumming styles you can mix in metal drumming. It’s refreshing and it adds a unique factor. I’m a Lorna fan and it took me a minute to get used to Austin’s style. Since deathcore I’m used to it being more groove ladened; (with extreme elements too). Austin serves the song, but you can really tell that’s all he can do. He’s fast, but that’s about it.

[@NUMBgirl021]

It's amazing and you're wrong

[@thomasmann4536]

I completely agree with you. Don't get me wrong, the song is good, the musicianship is fantastic, but I feel the word "masterpiece" gets thrown around very liberally nowadays. If that was the goal then I feel the style Lorna Shore operates in sets this quest up to fail from the beginning. Allow me to explain: This song wants to capture a variety of different emotions, the different stages of grief, but also pain, anger and even joy. But the toolkit of the musicians is just too narrow for this. You can convey different kinds of anger with screaming and growling. But joy? Are blastbeats really going to be the best method to show sadness? I would contend that no. You need a much bigger stylistic variety to convey these emotions *well*. And this is why I feel that Lorna Shore falls short in this regard because throughout all of it, they stick to the Deathcore soundscape, while bands like Slice the Cake succeeded in a very similar project. (if you recall for example, Castles in the Sky, Destiny's Fool being much different from what you'd expect out of Deathcore, and the vocal performance much more varied)

[@AyyFuji]

Nah fair enough mate, music is ultimately subjective, and if you don't like it, you don't like it. I will say, as someone similar to you, not really into deathcore (outside of Lorna), listening to just the songs does hit as hard as the videos did, not because of the songs, but relating it to the videos (replaying the videos in my head). But hey, I'd rather brutal honesty than cookie cutter fake praise.

[@atomictoaster8013]

this is a weird one, I’m truly with drew on disliking blastbeat-driven-deathcore - there’s no groove, little structure, very little appeal beyond ‘hurr durr angry man go brrr’ so I get it… but I also really like lorna shore, I think beyond their spectacle and excess they’re actually very good songwriters. they know how to structure a blast-driven song without it getting boring to me (which is strange considering their songs usually border on being a bit too long) and manage to squeeze tasteful (sometimes cheesy) melodic hooks into every track. they’re also pretty solid live, I think seeing them on their first UK tour with will made me a bit more partial to liking them, I only went to see to the hellfire and I left having genuinely enjoyed their set. but yeah, I’m not gonna fight drew on this because I get it - yakno I listen to a ton of metal with my cousin and he had the exact same reaction when this came on - it’s not for everyone! for me, these guys are the exception to the rule, but that’s just me ay?

[@highfallentv8445]

L Chat L Streamer

[@DoNotLookDown]

Just saw them live with Gojira and Mastodon Saturday and I don't get it. It's too much. Constant blast beats and the super fast pace just don't do it for me. Gojira and Mastodon fucking killed it though and we're insane live. Lorna Shore performed flawlessly but I feel nothing when they play.

[@airsicklowlandr]

The blast beats are what make this song amazing, channels the emotion of the song so well.

[@DoNotLookDown]

@@airsicklowlandr The music just isn't dynamic enough. It's very static to me. I hear the blast beats and that's cool but it's not very creative to me. The songwriting when it comes to blast beats is what I don't like. Just kinda a one note band for me.

[@airsicklowlandr]

@@DoNotLookDown to each their own. Sometimes I just want my ears blasted with pure emotion

[@EnergeticxCheese]

@@DoNotLookDownwatch some of Austin Archey’s drum playthroughs. There’s a lot more than just blast beats happening

[@jameskoren1266]

They are starting to sound super repetitive I wish they would branch out and experiment with different sounds.

[@riotfallen69]

I mean doing all 3 in one sitting I think was the issue but I do get what you mean 😂

[@Tomatokillz]

😂

[@corey_clip]

I can't get into new Lorna either. Will's vocals are good but I'm just so ridiculously bored listening to the instrumentals. Put Will on tracks with more interesting instrumental parts and he'd be amazing. They do the same four chords through the whole song, the solos are just fast and not melodic enough to be memorable, the breakdowns all sound the same, I could go on. I wish more bands would go the way of Enterprise Earth or Fit for an Autopsy with their songwriting

[@_Forza]

Deathcore be like

[@MadailinBurnhope]

I think the thing that bothers me most about Lorna Shore -- a band that plays in a wheelhouse that I generally enjoy -- is that their Death Metal-esc element is fine, but the melodic / symphonic element behind it is too cliché; I've heard these string melodies and chord structures too many times trying to elicit emotions in me, and those lyrics are about profound subjects but more emo than metal; they're not *bad* but they are familiar and repetitive, like... idk, symphonic Euro pop? totally fine but a sort of gateway "classical", rather than the real stuff but don't mind me, I've just been listening to Fleshgod Apocalypse all day ❤

[@Need4Needle]

i agree with your point, the band is solid and the symphonic elements have a place in deathcore (for example shadow of intent which are pretty similar to shore), i just think their way of writing that stuff doesn't end up making the songs more emotionally intense, i guess they might serve other purposes. I feel this trilogy had success mainly because many people were first exposed to this kind of songs with this one, and i think it's fine, there are surely worse bands to be "the hot ones" and it's surely good that many people get exposed to different contaminations and different ways of playing music. by the way, my personal go-to "feels" band is insomnium :D

[@ThcBanaman]

Personally, and I have never been an elitist or anything, LS have just become too mainstream for me. While for Drew it's too much for now, for me it's too little and too poppy.

[@causewhynot284]

I get your reaction channel that if you don’t like this type of music, please just stop coming back to it, the past couple videos where you listen to music like this you sound like two compliments and then giving an eight minute explanation of everything that you don’t like and why it just doesn’t musically work for you, I’m not saying that you’re not allowed to have your opinions and things like that but if you don’t enjoy this type of music, stop forcing yourself to sit through it

[@8JFJK8]

I love deathcore, but i just cant get into Lorna shore. The Pain Remains part 1 is the only song of theirs i like. All their songs sound the same to me. Just blast beat drums and some orchestra sounds thrown in. Just not my type of deathcore

[@matidfk5171]

thats what this album definitely felt like to me. immortal is probably their peak, althought even then the blastbeats were a bit over the top. if you can go back to older stuff flesh coffin and psalms are still pretty good though