I Found a Faster Way to Build Next.js APIs

[@TheIpicon]

nice job Josh😁. 1 thing i want to highlight for the general info (since there's a lot of juniors in guides like this), is that your requirements for a fast api are mostly targeted for serverless environments, hence you want small dependencies and a lightweight environment to spin up your serverless function/worker as fast as possible. if people want to deploy to a server"full"(I guess) environment (EC2, EKS, OpenShift, VPS), they probably should focus still on the region but not on the startup of the pod rollout bot how fast it can serve requests once it's up ( would probably choose fastify instead of hono in this scenario since fastify is more mature with greater support and Hono is build by "edge first" ideology).

[@harshitpant07]

so which is faster in cloudflare hono or fastify I am considering to create a be server in a turbo repo which is better I want to deploy it on cloudflare

[@TheIpicon]

@ it’s very dependable on the runtime your going to use for your fastify project. For a new project I would consider next-on-pages which is a next.js port for cloudflare on the edge with a crazy free tier

[@joshtriedcoding]

can vouch for fastify, used it at a previous job and I was so positively surprised by it. Cheers man

[@harshitpant07]

@@TheIpicon so i am mocking this server as a bank server (project) and so I want this to be always up (or up and running as fast as possible) which is why I was thinking of hono on cloudflare but from what I can understand from your comment do you mean to say next-on-pages would be a better option here as a new project I did used hono before though. (I have never used fastify ) ... thanks

[@TheIpicon]

@ next-on-pages uses the edge environment of cloudflare which is its own thing based on web standards (it’s the same as Vercel’s edge), I would use cuz it’s hella fast, cheap and easy to use (very similar to Hono)

[@mohitcodeswell]

staying honest is the only thing a youtuber should do The rest is content

[@twitchizle]

i dont think josh is honest

[@jitxhere]

Any specific reason?​@@twitchizle

[@childe2001]

@@twitchizle why?

[@slinco65]

@@twitchizle Care to give your reason for saying that?

[@joshtriedcoding]

appreciate you man

[@AnalyticsRank]

Hello josh, I love your tutorials! They’re always so informative and inspiring. I have an idea for a complete app you could create: a highly practical finance management app with features like category management, expense and income tracking, detailed reports, and even savings goals. I’m sure many people would be interested in such a useful and modern project. What do you think?

[@eriknyk2k]

It's awesome! thanks for sharing dude!

[@kanasva]

Can’t wait to see the speed test of Workers connected to DB as it reflects more like the real world: D1, Turso, Neon.

[@joshtriedcoding]

did my tests with neon & drizzle, its fun coming back around to it

[@eriknyk2k]

I just get why the vercel founder was too worried talking negative things about cloudfare

[@joshtriedcoding]

i was surprised to see the negative comments about cloudflare when that happened, cloudflare is pretty good when it comes to recognizing good new tech imo

[@alejandroechavarria539]

Amazing work josh

[@thePradiptalks]

@joshtriedcoding Why did you choose Prisma instead of Drizzle if you want it to be lightweight?

[@denizdeno]

For better test results, you can try sending all requests simultaneously in a multi-threaded way and then loop it 3-5 times. Or you can easily perform this test using one of the testing tools - I would recommend Apache JMeter. If you run the tests with settings like 1000 users and 10-15 loops, we can see clear results

[@amirfarooq1516]

But is it not the same case with vercel function deployment that if a user make request to an api, only the dependencies of that single api will be loaded and not all other apis? Ehy emphasizing over the other router dependencies not being loaded when a request is made to some other router deployed on cloudflare? Any response is highly appreciated.

[@VincePolston]

Hey Josh. What app are you using for creating those text/workflows as you're describing the topic?

[@luckysolanki9440]

Hey Josh, can you please help me... Vercel being serverless causes mongodb to exceed connection limit so often, already issue is raised about it but if you have some solution? I use a connectToDb() function in each api made with mongoose, can you make a video on how to make the vercel friendly mongoose middleware

[@paw565]

You can hey for testing api performance with ease from the terminal. It's awesome.

[@fumblingthroughjavascript]

Where is the 'mergeRouters' function coming from?

[@fumblingthroughjavascript]

trpc?

[@codewithmoses]

This is really worth it! Just a short info, there is a scammer running around discord trying to impersonate as “Josh”

[@XIIOSRS]

Thanks Moses

[@Gohealt]

Josh in 2025. I was so wrong about my stack. I will go with laravel now ;)

[@ChichaGad]

Schizo Josh moment

[@joshtriedcoding]

laravel looks dope ngl

[@carlosricardoziegler2650]

Nice content, it is possible some alternative approach in vps ?

[@sohamnandi7526]

can you please share the hono-rpc code, if possible ?

[@matthewhammond5902]

What about containerization? And sharing data between containers?

[@matthewhammond5902]

Or query optimization.

[@CoryTheSimmons]

It's wild AWS doesn't have an answer for CF Workers yet. It's definitely in the pipeline though.

[@jsvrs]

using rpc is cool, but the only downside is that you lose control of the caching from the vercel `fetch`

[@PreetimanMisra]

Ah, classic programming. "My code works! Hmmm..., why does it work? The hell??"

[@FranciscoMarcosMilhomemAbreu]

What is jstack? I don't get it.

[@filipniklas]

Why not server actions?

[@sympijs]

well imo database queries are what is slow in many apps. or calling 3rd party services. But it’s usually querying your database / redis

[@reze_dev]

Especially when the backend sever and the database are in different region.

[@Deus-lo-Vuilt]

More Hono with Cloudflare ❤

[@bloodylupin]

first hi Josh keep up your awesome job 😎

[@mikoo1991]

josh, are you being lazy?

[@clazzy0]

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