I Found Another SCRIPTER in Solo Q...

[@CrossBreedTacoHD]

Gets called out, and then pays the guy that calls him out? Stonks

[@LlibertarianGalt]

Mundo crushes heads and banks

[@HelloFromTokyo]

The ezreal game was clear as day, and yes you can toggle each spell depending on danger level. Didn't dodge soraka Q because you're 80% not going to

[@HelloFromTokyo]

14:42 he q's then right clicks to left of screen and launches R pin point onto low HP jinx. NA's prodigy if not scripting

[@nawe_13]

@@HelloFromTokyo Yeah, you can also see he's scripting 13:26. The champion always faces where you click, you can see as soon as he flashes it turns away and then back, same just before the Q. If you see someone doing that in game it's because they are scripting. This could be a spectator bug too, but most likely it's not.

[@FluffyUsagii]

First time i noticed something was off (cuz i was aware of the script because of the video's title) was on literally first Soraka's Q, Jinx immediately dodged it, while being in the center of it and soraka was also hidden in the bush. It's not easy to walk away from a well centered soraka Q.

[@stupidestduck]

@@HelloFromTokyo I think 14:50 looks even worse. Yes he gets hit but teh way his character spazzes out to try to dodge the q just looks so stupid.

[@drakyr]

if u slow down at 15:41 he's dodging xerath stun like the moment the ball appears in the fog of war

[@v3xerAVA]

Raka the real one for immediately standing by his adc’s accusations

[@rllmgr6117]

Best support in-game and in chats

[@myutwocar]

Enemy team diana exposd him as well, can't be more ashamed

[@judgedbytime]

@@Jeehaun hating someone better than you because your hero does? waaaaaaaaaaaaaaack

[@helloneighbour2408]

@@judgedbytime better than you? hes scripting lmao youre a goofy kiddo

[@Fabled.-]

Editor, you are amazing. I love that you show the patch notes and tier list rn for those of us out of the loop. Thank you!

[@fortynine]

fr thats the only reason i watch sneaky youtube

[@bernardkuiper1496]

Also want to highlight the use of the replay minimap, so we can see what's going on

[@PaddyRoon7]

What tier list is being used in this video?

[@Natibe_]

Wasn’t super convinced by this lucian game, luck happens but it was definitely sus. Then you showed the ezreal game and that shit was not subtle anymore lmaoo good addition editor 👍👍

[@uberaccount9610]

theres no way u can consitently dodge lucian q at melee range that many times

[@ryswick1064]

The Jinx game was 100% sus. You don't spam W's as Jinx, it makes no sense. Those traps made no sense. The biggest thing that made the games sus is that Ezreal/Jinx only dodged when they needed to. If a skillshot was coming your way and you were predicting it, you'd dodge regardless if it was going to hit or not, because you can't anticipate their aim you just know Xerath/Lucian want to Q. His scripts ONLY dodge when necessary. We would see him always make weird movements in anticipation for Lucian Q or Xerath spells, but he doesn't, he only dodges when necessary like a robot knowing exactly when a spell was going to hit or not. Look at the Ezreal game when he goes under tower and doesn't flinch at the missed Xerath stun. Why would he know that was going to miss? Why no flinching/dodge? Scripts knew it missed and didn't bother to react.

[@Darkstormsun9865]

@@ryswick1064 no one walks in a straight line like that to dodge something lmao.

[@dnatortnator]

@@ryswick1064 You ESPECIALLY don't do it in GM/chall elo. Man if Sneaky ever calls out a scripter, I'm believing him. His experience with the game and game knowledge are too insane to doubt it when he is confident enough to firmly make the accusation. He sniffed it out in his lucian game, but that ezreal game was just like 20 nails in the coffin of absolute SUS. If sneaky accuses me of scripting, I'm believing him lol

[@LightningMcMurphy]

@@ryswick1064 the very first W he throws out is troll as hell. In sneaky elo there’s no way someone’s just throwing away mana like that

[@DelgaDude]

Bug catcher evolved into the Scripter catcher

[@saadmj5283]

he actually caught scripters before

[@NguyenNguyen-ve4gg]

@@saadmj5283 What is the last evolve stage of him ?

[@fiveguys2820]

15:30 how does this guy not know how to cs under turret lmao

[@virno69420]

The orb (which literally automatically CS's for you) likely isn't programmed to predict damage on minions from tower shots. The circle he moves in between autos when farming the wave makes it pretty obvious he isn't issuing 99% of his autos.

[@AgentDGW]

what’s your rank ?

[@SeisoYabai]

@@AgentDGW Bruh Im Gold 4 and I would've gotten all of those. Two tower shots on melee, auto attack. Auto attack, tower shot, auto attack for ranged. It's not that hard, anyone in Diamond+ should be able to handle that flawlessly.

[@NotedEcho]

@@AgentDGW Me and my brother's unranked and he still would've gotten those, helll even as a support player like myself would've gotten those and this is from Unranked (Not as a support champ I mean if I played my secondary role which is top).

[@astral9022]

@@SeisoYabai ye as a diamond I can say that everyone in this elo could last hit those minions, he’s obviously scripting

[@Sulhouse]

I play on 8ms and have only dodged Lucian's Q one time in my life; also watching that ezreal play... 100% scripting

[@TheStraightflow]

His farming under tower is all I need to see😂

[@dejakiller69]

Did you consider going pro?

[@BunPrince]

I play on 60-80 I've dodged lucian qs but probably just in the single digits and completely on accident

[@Efficiient]

@@BunPrince that’s the whole point sneaky smaking you can get lucky and walk at the perfect time to dodge the Q but to react to the Q while being pressured is a whole different thing lol. He’s reacting to the Q on input.

[@BunPrince]

@@Efficiient uh im not going against what sneaky said

[@dracoknight9066]

The script is visible much earlier actually. Dude micro-sidesteps Senna heals so many times because he's holding the dodge. That soraka QE dodge before Zed came was also very sus, since a proper diamond/master adc wouldn't dodge the Q that way since it's easy to get boxed into E and instagibbed. He only lived because Soraka assumed the person dodging is a human being.

[@iRickNLx]

I knew that was a thing! I also noticed those Senna q movements. The Ezreal clips are way too obvious too. Can’t cs for shit but dodges every Xerath ability.

[@OfficialHases]

the way he defends himself just shows how truly insecure he is in his own gameplay, to the point where he has to script. like a scripter who only does it to piss off other or to have fun winning easy games would definitely not have that much of an angry reaction to an accusation when it's that blatant. this guy wants to be good so bad, but doesn't wanna take the right steps towards it

[@5x385]

Main thing that makes them a scripter is how hard they're defending themselves. Going far out of their way to chat and donate to you because they are scared, they'll lose the acc they bought. A normal player with years on an acc doesn't care and takes it as a compliment if anything at all. When someone is insulting a former pro-player and calling them silver when they just got shit stomped, they are actively unaware of the situation they're in and just being super defensive out of fear like a moron. Dodging Lucian Q with your eyeballs is only possible on a champ like riven where you can dependably move at "no delay". By the time your brain comprehends a Lucian Q animation, you're getting hit by it. If you comprehend it and then, rather than inputting a movement command where you still have to wait until your champion moves, use an ability that instantly moves you out of the way, then yes, it's totally doable if you get really good at both predicting and visually recognizing a Lucian Q. Later in the game as the delay gets lower, I'd say it becomes impossible again. Scripts normally dodge specific things, they dodge hitboxes/they have an indication of where they will be hit (the scripts/scripter). It is entirely possible to play the game with scripts as an overlay showing you where the hitboxes are, and only have it automatically dodged when you want it to. It's code, it's customizable and that's the point. The fact this guy lost to Lucian only makes it more obvious, I'm sure that in games where it comes down to "skill" shots he displays a whole lot of "skill" like with that Ezreal clip. In that clip you can actively see that his champion is moving frantically, that's because his inputs don't line up with where the script wants him to be. Guess what, I've never used a script in my life (I'm sure it's only become more random and harder to discover), there was a guy who used to stream his ENTIRE setup. Didn't get banned for literal months either. There was even another guy that used to talk about it, played Xerath, pretty famous for saying something along the lines of (I'm heavily paraphrasing) "I want to be good at the game because I think the game is only fun when you're good at it, so I use scripts", scripters usually think that because they play a game, they deserve to be good at it and enjoy their time playing it. They don't want to put in the effort of being good at it but they want to reap all the rewards. That guy in your chat is probably the guy by the way, the naming scheme feels like it lines up (MReapM and reapermicheal or whatever).

[@azseo69]

Tldr...

[@davidkim301]

spacing between your paragraphs goes a loooong way

[@mrballenworship7067]

Bro wrote a whole novel

[@azseo69]

@@Wewdyy thanks! was serious about the tldr. literally too long

[@NomSauce]

Ok I'll be honest, dodging Lucian Q is definitely a thing, but there's no world you can do it on anything above 15ms without a dash/blink or huge movement speed burst. Like this is something I've seen plenty of times from pros on the KR server, but that's just it, it's the KR server, they're playing on 8-11ms. To top that off, it's not consistent, but it definitley isn't accidental and it is more often than not a read rather than pure reaction. They're just reading Lucian's combo and time their movement to it, but again, it's not consistent and it sure as hell doesn't look like the Jinx lmao. The most obvious part about being a script is how perfect the movement is, when a cracked out of their skull LPL adc dodges a Lucian Q, they still "overstep", like their movement isn't theoretically perfect. This Jinx literally does not waste even a pixel of movement when dodging the Q, that just isn't a thing you do intentionally lmao and it sure as fuck doesn't happend accidentally, multiple times a game.

[@Abolesco]

After a touch of research, this scripter was never ranked before this season. They climbed from bronze to grandmaster as a Quinn 1 trick, and have since fallen to Master as a support main, never again playing Quinn.

[@lorcster6694]

Suss

[@Night_Hawk_475]

Yeah, the account was boosted by a quinn player, then bought by this player who began using cheats on it.

[@SlasnerSb]

another thing I find that's really telling is he doesn't even flinch on the xerath q's that he's just barely outside. I feel like a normal person would still adjust their position slightly to be safe, but since the script knows he's out of the hit box it doesn't interfere.

[@Night_Hawk_475]

That's a good point, yeah. I think this alone wouldn't mean much, and in these circumstances it's not even necessary because of how blatant the rest of the evidence is (especially some of the weird dodges the comments section here is highlighting), but it's definitely a neat way to further confirm things.

[@CursedYo]

That Ezreal was so blatant. Dude is dodging things from fog before indication.

[@EclipsaMyrtenaster]

The only time I see someone dodging my Lucian Qs is when Singed is running at me, full speed like I just stole his daughter or something then circling me like he's a vulture

[@lazylas7502]

i laughed mate

[@woeloen]

The real question in here is: WHY are you stealing singed's daughter? Dont do that!! :D

[@__Hanasei__Levinus__]

And why are you a leftover corpse? Are zombies really a thing now? Woah 😳

[@zzxxccvv01]

I was scripting back in season 4 so for me easy to see a scripter by one thing. There is a key that is bound by default to V that makes ur champ kite everything(there is one for champs only) as you can see in this game when there are NO minions she is doing perfect circles with her champion. This is literally impossible to turn ur champ around that fast and clean because of slight input lag on everyone's side. Not sure if i explained it correctly but if she is turning the champ really smoothly you can already tell it's a script.

[@Calley07]

holy shit this deserves to be a top comment. It never dawned on me that even the smoothness of the idle movements are impossible to recreate, but sure enough, I tried to do a smooth circle move like the jinx was doing in the clip, and it's literally impossible. If you hold down the move key and try to draw a circle, it's like 3 times as stuttered, and if you try to spam click move in a circle it gets even weirder. you literally just confirmed a 100% telltale sign that somebody is scripting that can be detected before even seeing a person dodge even one skillshot. really nice insight, somebody should give this info to all high elo streamers.

[@yournemesis192]

You can do that without a script. I do that a lot because it irritates people and they think I’m scripting You can’t dodge every Lucian q without a script though

[@Calley07]

@@yournemesis192 um, no it is literally impossible. If you have a technique that replicates this weaving then you better have video proof.

[@micahcook2408]

Yeah looking back at other League Scripter-Exposed videos or just plain KZbin channels that endorse scripting, you are 100% correct. Some of the scripts are little bit more “human” when trying to emulate the circle, but then have one or two random occurrences when they do a full 360 rotation. Thank you for the giveaway and for our future games if we ever feel like we’ve encountered one!

[@blindfire3167]

That's usually the best way to find out if someone is scripting: Call them out on it. For some reason, scripters/cheaters (most of them at least) blow their fucking heads off and get REALLY pissed at being called out for being a cheater, but in reality, if they weren't cheating, they have nothing to fear/get mad over so all this drama/crying just makes him look more guilty. With scripts, you can absolutely choose which ability you want to dodge and hotkey it to toggle on/off. He's able to get hit by Lucian's W since it does less overall damage and would make it more obvious to always dodge 2 spells compared to 1 (even though it's more obvious to dodge Q consistently since its cast time is so short it would have to be an accidental click or prediction to do so).

[@FrazierHarcrow]

Not sure why people have the notion that people who get mad while defending themselves are automatically guilty. In fact in criminal cases, it's well documented that often when innocent people are under interrogation, they become irritated and upset, much more so than the guilty by quite the margin. It feels unfair, unjust, why wouldn't you be upset under accusal? On the other side, if you say nothing then the person accusing can shout aloud your supposed misdeeds and create any narrative they like while garnering allies. Guilty people often try to concoct a story that favors them, or manipulate people or the replaying of events in a way that shines a goodlight on themselves or their likeness.

[@blindfire3167]

@@FrazierHarcrow People interrogated for crimes have a right to be angry, their lives could be ruined and they're frustrated.... cheaters on the other hand have NOTHING to worry about if they're not cheating (even if suspended/banned, you can appeal and show you're not cheating).

[@hi-i-am-atan]

@@blindfire3167 have you not once felt pride in your accomplishments, even minor ones

[@blindfire3167]

@@hi-i-am-atan I do, I'm especially proud when I get called a cheater knowing that I'm not and someone thinks I'm good enough to be on level with a cheat....I don't, however, blow a gasket and harass someone because they called me a cheater, and then go and donate money to try extra hard to prove my Innocence and continue to harass said person....I'd walk away knowing I wasn't cheating. You ever cheat in your life? You seem to be annoyed at my post calling out cheaters who get angry when called out...

[@Darkstormsun9865]

@@FrazierHarcrow depends on the accusations. there have been insane pros and popular players accused of cheating across all games but they don't rage like this.

[@RomnysGonzalez]

I have watched so much League of Legends since S2(?) i don't even know at this point and i never saw someone dodging a Lucian Q. I saw people casting it on the wrong direction or just straight up missing the target or just keep moving on a continues directions regardless because they were looking elsewhere on the map, but never saw someone fighting moving to AA and then sidestep the Q. That's literally impossible so never saw someone who actually do it on cast time. Only by flashing out.

[@jakemurray4346]

It's somebody attempting to make their cheats humanized. For people lacking knowledge, they would think this is raw mechanical skill. For people who know what the top 0.1% look like, and the fact this guy is just some random name they have never seen before, but somehow is better at dodging Lucian Q than somebody like Viper or Uzi, it's obvious they are cheating.

[@pandaeateh890]

Not even gumagod would dodge those lol

[@stespin]

He's clearly scripting. Look at how the script recognizes the Q input, starts moving one way even before the animation starts, and then the instant the animation ends it starts moving the opposite way, both times at the perfect millisecond. It's that double movement that always gives it away for me, scripts rarely ever dodge in one swift movement, they either do "a double" to trick the skillshot like in this video or an inhumanly fast Move-Stop or Stop-Move, depending on what they need to dodge. I mean, Luc Q's animation is like 0.3, moving twice, in 2 different direction, with millisecond-perfect timing in 1/3 of a second, while under pressure. If that's not scripting Faker definitely wants to know his location.

[@RedAstrals]

also saying someone is scripting should be a compliment (to how their skill is) and if they actually are scripting it'll be obvious if they get mad about it right lololol

[@ChiLlerLeMon]

The way you can instantly tell it is a scripter is at 6:00, have a close look at his character movement and the way he does a full 360° on the spot. This is not possible without a script. Thank me later.

[@MaxedEntropy]

i'm pretty sure that happens pretty often by just walking back after every hit, i do that all the time. Walking in circles does not show someone is 100% scripting ;P

[@ChiLlerLeMon]

@@MaxedEntropy the way jinx does it is impossible. You can try it in practice tool, try replicating a perfectly rounded 360° on one spot. You will always move around and the circle will be much more angular.

[@ChiLlerLeMon]

and to add on that: she does this WHILE farming minions :)

[@__mob99]

This is true actually. You cant do that while cs-ing (the perfrct circle thing)

[@bigbananae]

@@MaxedEntropy you can make crappy polygons but not 360 degree circles

[@CockroachMunchingKrabbyPatty]

this dude can't even last hit minions under the tower as Ez, and yet he's somehow GM? yea ur definitely there by ur own merit kekw

[@AgentDGW]

it’s possible he got filled and ez is usually a safe pick

[@cardonchristensen5614]

@@AgentDGW for reals like when I’m autofilled on a champ I’m not super comfortable on I also never miss skill shots.

[@williamthacker4749]

@@AgentDGW Editor showed the last 10 games though and it was pretty sus he played 100+ games on quinn then decided to role swap to supp/ad

[@Darkstormsun9865]

@@AgentDGW no GM player would not know how to farm under tower. even if you one trick support or jungle. you will have to farm under tower sometime and you will have learn it being autofilled sometimes.

[@CockroachMunchingKrabbyPatty]

@@AgentDGW bro it's hitting minions under a tower, even silvers can do that lmfao. ez makes it even easier to last hit with his Q too. dude is just bad and bought a boosted acc and is using scripts too, true no lifer.

[@hunterbrhs0772]

Both times watching these scripting vids I’ve seen that the scripter always seem to walk in that weird circular swinging pattern almost perfectly, while most actual players I’ve seen tend to just juke left and right in instant 180s. It’s as if they’re constantly already moving in the most efficient way possible to pre-dodge any lead skill shots. About 1:26 is what I mean.

[@Bostan1997]

The scripts are used by holding certain keys down, eg. space bar to target champs, c for creep last hit, v for hard pushing. When your holding any key down it makes your champ follow the cursor with no delay.

[@iansalazar4017]

Idk, maybe I'm just weird but I tend to move a bit like that, and tried changin my focus from the abilities to the cast animations instead. I've had a couple of games where my dodging looked sus, still got hit a couple of times tho, nobody is that good lmaoat dodging lmao

[@PointlessDrummer]

i mean, you perfectly see the difference in sneaky - jerking left and right abruptly vs jinx - turning in circles very smoothly

[@Bostan1997]

@@PointlessDrummer you can hold a key down and hold the mouse on one spot almost and do 360s in a second with scripts It’s pretty obvious

[@Night_Hawk_475]

@@Bostan1997 Just to be clear, you know that you can hold down right-click in League of legends and your character will also continually follow your mouse, right? Nobody does it, this guy is absolutely scripting, it's clear as daylight. But anyone can get the "follow mouse cursor" effect. Though I do think the built-in version in LoL is slightly less smooth.

[@Jacob-yv9kq]

Popular opinion: Sneaky's editor is top tier

[@Ye4gerz]

lmao the funny part is the guy was contradicting himself, in post lobby, he openly admitted that he "sometimes" scripts but then goes into sneaky's chat all salty saying he's not scripting and when he ran out of arguments, he insults sneaky. Really sad individual

[@StarkPierrot]

Just looking at his CS'ing, his movements, it's kinda obvious. He doesn't know when or where to click, but because of scripting it helps carry him through all mechanics, but once you're too high of elo, it doesn't save you anymore.

[@AdrianPothead]

The Ez game is just lol, dodging perfectly without any vision is typically a really good indicator.

[@corbinwheeler8078]

I honestly didn’t know you could sidestep Lucian Q…I thought it always hits the target regardless

[@ryu_lidu]

with instant dashes or super high movespeed it's not that hard, but he's dodging at base ms dude, one time is ok, 3 times is just 100% scripting

[@unkeyboardonated350]

I've done it 4 times since season 5, 3 of them were complete accidents and the other one was intended on my part but I just got super lucky I clicked at the right time to move.

[@ogieogie5953]

You could if you know its coming but the chances are maybe around 1 out of 10. Just rough numbers since I actually dodged a lucian q once with side step, that other times i dodge it with a movement type skill or flash.

[@Golgito]

love the investigation segments on these type of videos

[@rllmgr6117]

So proud of snackers, that MreapM showed absolutely horrendous behaviour while scripting and sneaky just stayed like the coolest most chill dude on Earth. I would've fuxkin flipped f that guy for twisting the truth.

[@yuki-tan]

anyone notice that jinx send message about sneaky hitting his q on them early game not even knowing what sneaky was talking about when he mention scripts?. sneaky message came through first but there is no way jinx would read that and reply that fast in the same time. check in 17:37 i think jinx just toogle script on and off, and turned if off in early game because he wanted to have some proof in case someone called him, and later on jinx turned on scripts where its harder to notice outside of laning face. scripters arent npc's they know how to manage their script so its difficult to know if they are really scripting

[@NotedEcho]

This is a really good point. Jinx instantly went to a moment in the early game and that is even more weird

[@IronGiant2790]

Was Sneaky streaming the game? Could've been ghosting, too.

[@zchannel007]

I can dodge every Lucian Q….. when flash is up

[@swordyshield]

yea same. I can dodge every lucian q when my dash ability/flash is up aswell.

[@WStringblade]

That Ez gameplay absolutely confirms it.

[@virno69420]

Ye currently for some reason there's been an explosion of cheap UD scripting platforms out for sale. Not sure why now and I personally haven't seen any but seems like scripting definitely on rise as of late.

[@full-timepog6844]

Its a weird thing man because they play like they 100 % know they'll dodge your abilities.

[@LevelForge]

Ye but idk I’m not even mad about scripters it’s just normal now days no one of us will go pro anyways so the game is just for fun and when they have more fun with scripts well w.e

[@full-timepog6844]

@@LevelForge how is it more fun to play against?

[@LevelForge]

@@full-timepog6844 no I mean the scripters are probably having more fun playing with scripts

[@viperstrike0]

i was convinced with the lucian game personally, you can be lucky or bad to dodge 1 q but not 3 in the span of 1 game.

[@Brawler1216]

Hey sneakers content, can’t wait to watch it all :)

[@FDT222]

The wild part is not only was he called out but you get shown on youtube with your account name and last 10 games played for a video that gets nearly tens of thousands of views. I hope it was worth it.

[@adampike328]

Would be really cool to interview a former scripter or someone who knows how these scripts work. Could help people spot them and recognized them. Plus I'm just curious.

[@SnuggleLabes]

They are extremely boring and interviewing someone who uses them wouldn’t be only infinitely more boring lol go get some free Minecraft hacks and you’ll get the jist

[@adampike328]

@@SnuggleLabes Thanks for the feedback

[@noobgoestrapping5084]

There have been some. I've watched videos on them. You can get like a full hud of ranges and toggle different things on/off and all kinds of weird shit. Easy toggle on/off with hot keys. All that kind of thing. But game knowledge is a lot. You would have to still know how to play the game well to get very far, and you'd have to even learn how to play the game with scripts differently than you play without. Still a MASSIVE advantage, but thankfully they're beatable when not piloted by someone already really good.

[@yournemesis192]

I tried out scripts many years ago back in season 5 because back then almost every game had a scripter I haven’t seen an actual scripter in my games since season 9

[@Diggydogsp]

12:48 this part makes it clear as day, no-one when fighting while trying to auto-space, clicks in two different directions, instantly one after another. If they were genuinely trying to dodge the Lucian q, we would see them do it multiple times in other fights, but they only did it here, bcs their script made them instantly change direction.

[@xXNerogamerXx]

Also if you watch his walking how he walks perfect circle s all the time in laning, he is holding spacebar what replaces right click (script feature only) You can't walk perfect circle s in league if you don't click 100x per second ^^

[@michaelmaxfield6557]

15:40 tells you everything you need to know

[@Grawlithe]

the way the jinx walks in lane in the first game is super weird also. lots of small circles instead of the rapid back-and-forth while cs'ing, very odd

[@richbander7154]

that phenomenon happened during minecraft days too often the argument "why would they suddenly turn off their cheats it doesn't make sense" is so stupid because everyone back then did it to appear "legit" or had the argument of being legit because they didn't dodge that one lucian Q in the first 5 minutes of the game

[@unrealpr0d16y3]

at least you werent playing ez this time

[@Skyace13]

The Chompers are so sus too. I think it’s because in a situation where 2 characters are in range the script either doesn’t know which to target or tries to target both. For example in the clip where the scripter dodged the Lucian q, he also throws chompers into the wall. This location doesn’t help in anyway, but it’s casted when it could hit both Karma and Lucian because they’re both in range. More than likely, the scripter wants them to trap Lucian, but he’s standing at a poor angle for the traps cast so there isn’t a good way to hit the chompers.. Now normally you’d still throw your traps that direction, but put them behind Lucian. But the script realizes it can cast so one of the chompers is directly on Karma, making it as hard as possible for karma to dodge.

[@TurkeyMeat]

He also did e+w on the same frame which is classic jinx script

[@shikikankillzone4239]

@@TurkeyMeat Check the guy's video, he had a ward there

[@stupidestduck]

I love the attempted dodge of the xerath q at 14:50. Yep def not scripting!

[@Sennakools]

0.3s cast time so that means you have 0.3-0.2(average reaction speed) to do a mouse imput perpendicular to the lucian q and even then it will probably still hit you.

[@yaboiaxl1216]

Well its not just that but the main part of lucian q thats visible starts during those 0.3 seconds so its more like 0.15-0.2 seconds a human would react to, unless you instantly identify lucians animation as a q instead of an auto attack or ult. And that is frame 1 of the animation. No way youd be able to recognize that and then have time to move out of it

[@jacobw5434]

don't forget to factor in ping, that cuts it down another 25% in terms of how much time you have to react

[@Rave.-]

The "watch the 1st 5 minutes" part cracks me up because ALL that says to me is "ok so you didn't turn the scripts on til the 5m mark. Thanks for the heads up." It's a classic tactic. "You think I'm cheating? Bro look at this spot I was intentionally not cheating so I could fall back on it later as 'proof'." I used to do it as a dumb little kid with map hacks in sc1. I'd keep it turned off for a bit for plausible deniability, and then toggle it on and off to make sure I made some mistakes. Looking back now, it was the most transparent and dumb shit I've ever done in a game. Special shoutout to GameShark too for letting me ruin games for myself to the point where cheating was just boring. Integrity MVP right there.

[@iGoValkyrie]

Really fked how he's trying to gaslight sneaky, but then again because a liar isn't far off from a cheater.

[@TexasRedOutlaw]

Yo popping in as a OTP lucian with 5 mil on the champ over 8 years. There is only one way to semi-consistantly dodge lucian q and that fully depends on predicting the lucian. Most lucian's will E forward, auto, then q. When they E forward you have to start spamming and I mean absolutely spamming your right click to wriggle on the spot. If you're lucky the lucian Q will try to predict you going 1 of the 2 directions and miss by a mile. YOU ALSO NEED TIER 2 BOOTS so that the lucian q predicts your movement to go far enough away that it goes wide if you stay in the same spot wriggling. This works best on less than 10 ping also so your inputs are crisp. But overall, the way jinx was moving did not follow this method at all, with the method I described you can dodge on average 1 out of 3 q's and it might save you in a clutch situation. She had absolutely garbage movement and her clicks were so far apart you can tell shes not clicking even remotely close to her champion model. Dodging 3 out of 3 q's is less than 0.0001% and even that is generous, its extremely unlikely to even miss 3 q's as lucian across 20 games and I think I miss about 1 every 100 games (people can obviously dash/flash out but we're counting pure right clicks only) missing 3, and more importantly dodging 3 in a row, absolute an obvious scripts, him coming into your chat afterwards just shows the immaturity on this kid. The other thing scripters seem to forget is you can tell how bad their playing, I went against a scripting vayne a couple of weeks ago, she inted into me level 1 because she assumed she could just dodge me playing ezreal and lux support level 1 and she died to the minion wave and my passive autos, these players have absolutely no skill and that's why they use scripts. God forbid the day we see someone who's actually decent at the game use scripts properly.

[@lLustfulness]

The quality of this video is so good, good job editor! : D

[@richkid8835]

Imagine you're so bad that even scripting can't save you.

[@connorbozynski1006]

I literally thought it was impossible to dodge Lucian q. The fact he was able to dodge it 3 times in one game is insane

[@Casiv]

I love how cheaters always try to defend themselves and get super toxic when they are called out

[@davidnymann5423]

This video could have just been the clip of him as ezreal walking up on tri with no vision and pixel perfect dodging everything xerath threw at him

[@NeAInfinity]

Honestly, that Clip isn't the greatest evidence he's scripting. Moving away from that brush is okay, because he knows people are in there and he shouldn't even be up that far. Legitimate players do the exact same thing all the time at this location. They walk up, realize they went too far and turn back, sometimes accidentally dodging random abilities. What it does show is how fucking bad this person as a player is. He's 100% scripting and the most convincing parts are him as ezreal dodging xerath skillshots while moving forward into a dive. That's some psycho shit. Also, dodging Lucian q in a perfect perpendicular manner 3 times in a row is obviously up there too.

[@davidnymann5423]

@@NeAInfinity the key term in my post was pixel perfect. No one dodges that smooth without giving up spacing he dodged everything and stayed in range to fire back with q like nobodies micro is that good especially in NA when good ping is 50+

[@TheFoxStalksHisPrey]

WHAT?! Champion skills cast time scales with your champion level???? I've been playing a decade and I had no idea.. Honestly shocked by this information.

[@xinxinliu1106]

Lets say the guy's reaction time is 200ms, including ping and all that, they would need to realize lucian q is coming and then move out of it before it lands. You would need some insane reactions. Going frame by frame, Jinx is starting to dodge lucian q when lucian extends out his gun, which is even before the visual part of the q comes out. There is just no way other than luck you could do that.

[@tzc9309]

He just playin with sneaky as hes too big brained

[@marcocassone5996]

Whoever edited this or went back and watched the other game and analyzed it. You da real MVP.

[@TheFoxStalksHisPrey]

The Ezreal play was so incriminating. Also, quality job from the editor.

[@TVRust]

just by the fact on how she spins you can tell immediately she is scripting, she literally spins like if she was playing wild rift.

[@TheAngeltsubasa]

tbh i think it's clear when sneaky says it's "impossible" to dodge lucian q he is saying it as an exaggeration; obviously you can dodge it using dashes or high move speed or even side-stepping it. he even says you can lucky dodge lucian q in the vid, so don't know why people are trying to hyper-focus on him saying it's "impossible". sneaky even has doubts about the first q that didn't hit. at first, he thought it was a weird bug or unlucky interaction that sometimes happens. once in a while, you can miss lucian q. of course, this is not taking into account when lucian tries to q through a minion and hit another target behind it; those are, of course, easier to dodge and far from impossible (but still tricky). what's impossible is successfully side-stepping lucian q 3 times in a row in 1 game without a dash or incredibly high move speed in the fashion jinx did when lucian q is targeting jinx. normally high-elo players will try to wiggle back and forth and HOPE the q doesn't clip them in a high-pressure fight, but this jinx's movement was far too smooth and confident as soon as it was cast. you will note from the third instance of q missing at 9:52 that jinx was not wiggling AT ALL. regular players would never try to attempt this because they KNOW how fast lucian q comes out and that they cannot reaction dodge it 99% of the time. even if players reactively move to the side to dodge when they see the lucian q come out, in the overwhelming majority of times, they will at the very least be clipped by the edge of its hitbox (which is tbh decently wide and you can see the actual size of it at 8:35) even if they've successfully dodged the middle part of the hitbox. in fact, in my experience, people will simply flash to the side of it if they see it come out -- again, because they KNOW sidestepping is simply out of the question in the moment. a real player would never count on themselves to consistently dodge lucian q in a fight (much less 3 times in a row). if they don't have flash or a dash available, they usually just forgo attempting to dodge the lucian q altogether, eat the damage, and try to fight BECAUSE they generally accept the lucian q WILL hit. the ezreal game is the nail in the coffin but tbh the lucian game was enough, especially if you've played against lucian a lot in lane where he's spamming q most often

[@dylan-nguyen]

The fact that he didn’t know how to cs kinda helped prove it He used jinx rocket to clear a wave to 10hp then used mini gun and missed all the casters

[@SadSinStory]

nah fam your editor is cracked.

[@mockcongler7784]

the fastest human reaction times are around 15ms. if this person lives in chicago then they would be playing on around 8ms ping. 15ms + 8ms = 23ms. at lvl1, lucian's Q cast time is 40ms. so in this scenario with the best possible ping, and world class reaction time, against a lvl1 lucian with the longest possible Q cast time, a player under pressure would have about 17ms to input movement in the correct direction to dodge a lucian Q (we also have to subtract the time it takes for jinx to actually move X amount of units to leave the AOE based on her movement speed). and this person does it 3 times in one game. and immediately resorts to personal insults towards sneaky when getting called out. cheating, shit talking and still gets clapped. class act.

[@JuanDeuca]

The third one was actually really obvious, not to mention the ezreal game, hope that numnuts gets banned

[@IZzAngelZz]

The jinx was getting hit by Lucian q in the beginning because the jinx was not the target of the q, rather it was the minions so the script wouldn’t dodge those cause it doesn’t count it as a spell targeted toward the champion itself since it is a targeted spell on the minions in concept, while when sneaky was targeting jinx when using the q, the script would dodge since now she is being targeted by the spell

[@Spades2233]

Last 10 games.... Literally shows 12 KEK

[@MrEcae]

13:25 you can see the conflict between where he's clicking and where the script is aiming if you watch in slow mo after he flashes

[@danielonley7684]

Hello Mr Editor, is there anyway you can blow up post game lobby chat in the future? Trying to read what it says on my phone with my old man eyes is kind of impossible 💛

[@Kevin_I]

He sounds so desperate trying to defend himself after getting caught lol

[@SquintyGears]

Gj editor for correcting what he says when he's wrong Edit: i mean specifically about the mechanics, that dude is 100% scripting

[@Solounin]

The third q dodge definitely sold me on them scripting

[@heyiamjustin2301]

ok but really the mjsuic goes so hard in the beginning any song help?? :D

[@95DreadLord]

I like how editor keeps bringing up the fact that piecing light can be dodged

[@cranberrysauce61]

its the really the 3rd q dodge by reaper that is really sus. he was running to a tower after spotting sneaky with the ward, and only does a single sidestep in that gank, which was perfectly timed to dodge the lucian q.

[@vidiveniviciDCLXVI]

There's a pandemic of scripters in Bronze, silver and gold right now.

[@ChildCelebrity]

The level of delusion to go into a man's chat who played professionally for like 8 years and tell him "see you in silver" 💀

[@PaddyRoon7]

Question: do scripts only try to dodge when it's possible? Or do they have to be toggled off to avoid dodging? (Like Sneaky I'm assuming they can be toggled mid-game)

[@Kuid4or3]

Those Movements are not possible, straight up. Turning 180° this instant, no Sir.

[@benw.3157]

It’s really impressive sneaky could get suspicious so quickly and be right. Good on him

[@BEEJI59]

Omg are those d2 sounds i hear in the begging what a man of culture the editor is

[@TheJerbol]

Editor coming in with the forensic reporting

[@Madafaca6969]

can't explain it but if sneaky was actually a sentient ai, he would make these yt vids. awesome stuff editor

[@ceeth100]

It was a bit weird his game, MAYBE he did get really lucky the Jinx game albeit dodging 3+ Lucian Qs is insane. But nahh watching that Ez replay of his account was insane. He dodged Xerath abilities that weren't even on screen. Also the random switch from 90% Quinn games to now no Quinn :o

[@Darkstormsun9865]

dodging 3 lucian Qs in the fashion he did is literally impossible. even if you accidently dodged, it wouldn't look like that.

[@envisionedgames]

I know a little bit about scripts. He basically has 2 buttons he holds and the bot automates the entire process. The first button is the farm button, it farms the wave for him. He probably has some sort of poke option as well which is why he keeps throwing out W at random intervals. The second button is the fight button, this attempts to orbwalk/kite in the direction of his mouse while also throwing out abilities. The E is probably tied to this and why he keeps throwing it on top of you every time you go in on him. He definitely has a dodge script though. As soon as you cast Q he's reacting within milliseconds. He might not have it set to dodge certain abilities that are not a big deal, like soraka Q. -edit- I wrote this before the video hit the Ezreal part. Holy shit watching Xerath throw abilities made that look so obvious. Yeah, dodge script hardcore.

[@xrevitalizex]

The funny part about this scripter, is after that ezreal game he stopped playing Ez because I'm sure the enemy team mass reported him/her. They pulled Wukong from top to lane with Xearth, and sent jinx top lane just because it's impossible for jinx to even lane at that point. If you go back and watch the Ez vod, at one point Xearth throws out his Q, and zyra throws her Q on top of it, and the script not only dodges the Xearth Q, it also tries to dodge the Zyras ability as well, because the Script can't tell the abilities apart. On top of that, this gamer comes in and starts flaming an LCS former pro whose played professionally for well over 6 years, and has been to Worlds multiple times, and plays SoloQ every fucking day, and you have the audacity to accuse him of gaslighting you for being a scripter, because you choose to walk into Sorakka Q's and dodge lucian Q's. I can't wait for the day, Riot starts PC banning people for cheating.

[@tylercmorley]

That ward + Senna Q is priceless

[@elsienova4269]

Lucian Q itself can be dodged. That's why its even specified in the spell wiki because there's such a bgi fight over whether or not it can be dodged. The amount of mental training you need to dodge it consistantly is probably so strict its not even worth learning compared to just learning positioning to not get overwhelmed by stuff in the first place. Yeah probably someone can learn it to a point where they can dodge the Q like 3 times per game but not every engagement.

[@Gaunerchen]

When you are just running perpendicular to the lucian Q while he casts it, you often dodge it if you have enough move speed.

[@willianteixeira4424]

funny thing: he didn't even denied sneaky accusations. only got mad and tried to find excuses, such a bad liar

[@Masikinias]

its more sus how jinx immediately went full defensive when you started accusing and not laughing for being accused of scripting

[@davidnymann5423]

Does the editor add the Diablo 2 sounds when he shops?

[@whydidyoutubeaddthis]

I guess it is weird that he'd defend that way. If you are not cheating and someone says you are that's a compliment

[@LycanRavin]

It IS possible, as once the cast animation plays, there's a sub-second period without damage. What's sus is the consistency of the dodging paired with the sub-par choices in regards to other things. But it IS possible to dodge a Lucian q via game mechanics. It's not like dodging a veigar ult or something. Think of it coding wise as a targeted xerath q, where the casting is targeted, but the animation that plays allows reaction.

[@joshgxng]

Isn't it just immediately obvious by the perfect robotic circular turn that he does after every single auto attack? That's the easiest way for a computer to maximize its chances of dodging a skill shot even before you factor in perpendicular movement after a skill shot is registered.

[@brycedaugherty9211]

The best thing here is lucian is hella hard to take advantage of by scripts. Unlike that ezreal vs xerath game showcased. It's hard to make it obvious with lucian. It appeared the jinx only dodged lucian q and that's it. Keep the script very light in order to not stand out so much. That's my theory

[@4tee23e]

this editor is sentient AI, showed pic of ward for those of us who thought jinx trapped the bush even tho everything was pinked. without a single world said.

[@celsonjunior9376]

id say the 1st Q was pure luck, but slow mo next ones where absolutely script, he runs a straight 90 degrees w minions nearby

[@Darkstormsun9865]

nah even the first one is impossible no one would dodge it like that even on accident. they will most likely walk in a straight line to attempt to dodge it, but he perfect framed tried to juke the hit box which is impossible to humanely do.

[@Coogi999]

Love how is argument is "I sucked the first 5 min bro"