I Gave it a Chance - XTRFY MZ1 Review After 2 Months

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Thanks for the kind words and review, and for talking about the adjustment period! To elaborate ... I designed this mouse based on a lot of the best features from other mice that I thought helped aim (and comfort to a degree, but mainly aim). After testing over 150 mice, my hand has adapted to so many that I'm not really bothered by many shapes, I can usually find a grip and play well. So this gives me a bit of an "unbiased" mindset, in the sense I'm not locked into using one shape, I can use pretty much all of them. This meant I was free to just go with whatever features that could help aim on my own design. It took me 3 weeks to adjust to the Razer Diamondback before my hand stopped hurting, then it became one of my best mice for aim at the time. So that's the period I recommend using a new mouse for, 3 weeks. I understand if you need to return mice because you can't afford to keep them that long, but if you can, stick with the mice (especially the top recommendations) for at least 3 weeks. That goes for the MZ1 and all other mice we recommend too, Razer, Logitech, Zowie, etc. 3 weeks. That's the mark that I've found. Hope it helps! And amazing footage as always, you're the master, Dm!

[@eshay000]

you're the most biased for example on your review of the cooler master mm720. You keep mentioning competitive shape and all those sort crap just to please the demographic and most of the time ur reviews are full of bs

[@connostyper]

@@eshay000 one of you again. Excelent. Just SU!

[@eshay000]

@@connostyper am I wrong? He's always saying "competitive shape" forcing the industry to go with what he says. This leads to no innovation or preferences because people will be forced to agree to his "competitive shape" agenda.

[@connostyper]

@@eshay000 he has no say of what the industry is doing or going. He has an opinion and he created a career around it. For some it work for others it doesn't.

[@Mageoftheyear]

Thank you for picking a shape that suits palm grip! There are so few options for this out there that let the hand rest like this.

[@denisruskin348]

If they release a wireless version, man, day one buy.

[@barjuandavis]

with the fact that 3370 is already a thing, this is totally possible.

[@Kevin-vg5uw]

Yup it needs wireless

[@ol1mar]

I think Zy said he's working on it

[@Miggs12]

Me too

[@Sphierro]

almost a year later you got your wish! It'll be out in June

[@rossmpostpro]

Great to hear you like this MZ1 Dimitri. It's definitely an acquired taste but for me, it's my favourite mouse ever. I became a bit obsessed with ultralight mouse of lockdown and ended up trying all the usual suspects. The MZ1 came out and blew them all away. It has legitimately made my aim better and won't be getting swapped out any time soon.

[@Bryan-T]

I love that you don't need to download a junk program to customize it.

[@Girvo747]

Yeah; I adore my Orochi V2 but Razer Synapse is still 100% Grade A garbage 🗑

[@interestingcuber8591]

@@Girvo747 my computer can't even install it after reinstalling windows 10 lmfao.

[@GobblezTheGhost]

Not to sound like a cheapskate, but it's a tough sell for me at that price. The fact that it has any "quirks" at $80 would make me question why I'd choose it over some of the (extremely strong) competition at similar or vastly reduced prices.

[@normalguy7877]

I agree, you can get awesome wireless mice for the price like the Orochi V2 if you have smaller hands or the Model O Wireless if you have larger hands, or even the upcoming Model D Wireless if you prefer ergonomic mice

[@Wanted54321]

The point was to support rjn tho, it was never intended for value.

[@liiou4445]

@@Wanted54321 since rjn have such a broad range.of audience, I feel like he should've made a mouse shape that's more forgiving to many handshakes and different grip styles rather than make a mouse that's targeted to a small group of audience that both fingertip grips and have a similar hand shape/size as his hand

[@Wanted54321]

@@liiou4445 his intention was to make a mouse thats best for himself tho, again it was never intended to please his audience if you know what I mean.

[@superior96]

@@liiou4445 So he should've just made a mouse that's pretty much exactly the same as every other one, and don't really innovate or do anything new? lmao

[@ashberic]

"Discomfort from holding holes." Dmitry 2021

[@Girvo747]

Your profile pic just adds to that comment lol

[@option_n]

Finally, been waiting for this.

[@Jakob3xD]

Yeah a review of someone with no competitive background and lack of "good" reference "gaming" mice is always helpful. If thats how you form your opinion i hope you will never be able to vote.

[@josephjoestar77]

@@Jakob3xD Damn why are you so salty lmfao

[@MNB730]

@@Jakob3xD Look at mr.competitive here complaining about mouse reviews, its good to have more opinions about something that is birthday money to a lot of people.

[@escapenguin]

I've basically come to the same conclusion about mine. It's great when I whip it out for shooters, but definitely a 3/5 for daily driving. And unfortunately my fingers are longer so my pinky drags no matter what unless I twist it up like I have arthritis. But I guess this is similar to why I have a track car and the one I drive to work...

[@Amaronduk]

"Purchased the Xtrfy MZ1 Zy's Rail and loved almost all of it Apart, from the Kailh GM 8.0 Switches. "As I ended up with pain in my left finger due to the force required to click. So hopefully, the next iteration will allow for changeable switches and adjustable actuation force. "This would be the perfect mouse for me as I prefer the lightest double-tap. "Especially when playing FPS games because it can become very fatiguing for my fingers. Other than that, I liked the mouse's overall design "as with the mesmerising RGB and solid sensor performance. I would also personally love to see an MMO mouse with the same features I mentioned integrated and Ultra lightweight with nine evenly spaced buttons on the side.

[@ronniemillsap]

jw for mouse modding reasons. whats least pressure switches that're also on par with top switches for low latency etc? I have same problem with index finger

[@Amaronduk]

​@@ronniemillsap Not too sure about latency but, regarding my favourite Switches, I'm pretty comfortable using TTC Golden Micro Dustproof ones as they're light to press while gaming for long sessions. Thankfully I ended up settling with a HyperX Pulsefire Haste. 'As it has a great lightweight design at around 59 Grams and a reliable sensor along with the TTC Golden Micro Dustproof switches I mentioned above. 'But recently, I also have been big into Trackball mice as I have been using the Logitech MX Ergo Wireless for FPS games with surprisingly accurate results and, the switches are also very light to press. 'Not forgetting using a trackball mouse doesn't require the tiresome movement of a traditional mouse and can also be angled to a more comfortable position which reduces Carpal tunnel syndrome.

[@ronniemillsap]

@@Amaronduk your answer was awesome and through, thanks! 'using a trackball mouse doesn't require the tiresome movement of a traditional mouse and can also be angled to a more comfortable position which reduces Carpal tunnel syndrome' and this was the icing on the cake for me. Might have to try that for protecting wrist someday.

[@Amaronduk]

@@ronniemillsap Glad to help.

[@thenonadventure]

I've replaced all my Steelseries, Logitech, and Glorious mice with XTRFY mice and haven't looked back. Glorious was a step in the right direction(learning that we've been overpaying for mice for far too long) but I had an O and a D start to fall apart within the first year so I decided to look elsewhere. With XTRFY I paid a terrific price for stellar performance and they great feel. I don't have an MZ1 in my collection yet but maybe someday.

[@TheLocara]

Got this mice day 1, and it really makes me want to play more and improve, instead of just being happy with what I got. The MZ1 becomes a platform for improvement of skills. And although yes, every mouse is that (ofc), this made it easier and more fun somehow

[@S85B50Engine]

@@h3nry_t122 I come from the G305 and the MZ1 improved my tracking by a lot.

[@TheLocara]

@@h3nry_t122 very probably so. Can't say I've had as fun learning and developing with other mice, and having daily driven it like Dimitri has, I can really agree with most of what he says. It takes a little while to get used to a very different kind of shape, but after, it just feels fun. You may call it placebo, I'll call it fun lmao

[@S85B50Engine]

@@h3nry_t122 depends on your grip, the MZ1 is much more comfortable to hold than the G305 for 18x9 ftip grip.

[@barjuandavis]

@@h3nry_t122 as mentioned, it really depends on grip. I used to have a g102 (which is wired g304 basically) and switched to viper mini + grip tapes. Oh boy it feels so good. But I cannot generalize it to everyone since not everyone having the same hands as mine. My point is, just play with whatever you're comfortable with.

[@dlalleman3874]

I think the shape allows you to move it around more freely

[@connostyper]

Tried it loved it. Impressive quality, I am getting one!

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Nice!

[@phillusderpimmelpilz871]

@@RocketJumpNinja pls tell me there is a wireless one coming, i dont know why i need one, but i need one

[@Girvo747]

Dunno how you’d solve this one, but the Orochi V2 weight you listed is with an AA battery - if one is comparing weight as a spec (for the consumer that wants light weight as a factor), I’d think it’s weight with the AAA would be better, no? That’s 65g, much closer to this Xtrfy than it appears in your graphic

[@nickfosley2882]

Timestamp: 1:01 - Quick question, how is it "awesome" that they patented their design? Patents are bad for the culture, copycats only raise the bar further (i.e. better price points, better materials, better mods, better adjustments) Ohhhh, you meant awesome for Xtrfy's pockets, I agree with you then.

[@kurushimee]

I just got this mouse myself today and so far I like it! Definitely feel like it will take at least several days to get used to, but it's already working great for me. I've also modded it from the moment I got it, as the stock MZ1 is wayyy too heavy for it's small size, it feels way too dense. Can't really check the weight rn, but it should be around 50g now.

[@de-ment]

this mouse physically looks like something straight out of the flea market with it's shitty looking half transparent dark plastic, holes that look random cause of the ergo-focused placement, and the horrendous looking RGB LEDs. but under your fantastic lighting/recording style/studio, it somehow looks bearable.

[@10415645]

I was stoked to hear about this mouse when Zai announced it and I got it as a present for my birthday to replace my Model O-. I've always believed in Zai's reviews, regarding mice. When I got to game on it there's an unexplainable feeling when tracking, I main Apex Legends, and I've had really good games with it so far. My damage, kills and tracking has been a lot more consistent in Apex and Kovaaks. I'm not sure if the receded back has something to do with it but tracking has been a breeze. All in all, I'm really happy with this, so thanks a bunch Zai and Xtrfy! Poggers!

[@RocketJumpNinja]

So happy to see comments like these, thanks!

[@10415645]

@@RocketJumpNinja thanks as well! You're a legend and I can't wait to see your next collab with Xtrfy. :)

[@friskandario9247]

It's different and I like it, maybe I'll buy one in the near future.

[@sguzaki4545]

2:54 The mice on this shot is what you would actually see on IRL at a 24 inch 16:9 display. Now I know how this mouse would fit my hand

[@xl_cr]

MZ1 definitely took a while for me to get used to. took me two weeks to get really dialed in. But once i got used to it, it is as precise as it can get. However, i do wish the scroll wheel was a bit lighter. i find it a bit difficult to double click (pinging in Apex) Overall, a great mouse!

[@四as]

Hey, just my opinion, but clicking mmb to ping in Apex throws off my grip and subsequently aim. I put it back on the keyboard.

[@xl_cr]

@@四as what keybind do you use for that?

[@四as]

@@xl_cr I set it on F, for myself but the keyboard is your oyster!

[@ajaypartapsinghsekhon8145]

Is it good for a bigger hand size?

[@xl_cr]

@@ajaypartapsinghsekhon8145 I don't think so bc it is on the smaller side

[@thatdudeghosty6817]

mouse took a while for me to get used to coming from a cooler master mm710 and honestly really enjoyed it the touch points being solid where you touch the mouse was a really welcome edition. love the way it looks in white with my setup and I've had zero issues. I play mostly league and some fps games and it's been great for both and worked well with the fingertip grip style I already had.

[@Baker8933]

Polling rate has a dramatic effect on older games. Lower polling rate increases my accuracy big time on quake and xonotic, but causes a less than higher rate of visual smoothness.

[@bunsdarius9223]

Hello, would like to ask what game is this at 8:50? The balloon/ball shooting game. Thanks!

[@NotGoodAtYoutube]

Aim lab

[@bunsdarius9223]

@@NotGoodAtKZbin thanks bro!

[@NotGoodAtYoutube]

@@bunsdarius9223 np

[@Voidward]

I just resold a FInalmouse Starlight 12 because I liked the Orochi V2 so much more. Zy also poopoo'd on the Orochi due to it's shape, which fit me great due to my wider hands, so I figure the MZ1 is not going to be up my alley.

[@pseudzy]

This is why I don’t trust a negative mouse review if it’s based on shape. I have 12 cm wide hands and the g303 and orochi are both extremely comfortable to me

[@Jyllyfish]

Love this mouse, give it a chance, learning curve is certainly there and it took me more time to adjust because I was palm grip on glorious model o prior. Have not looked back, once you get there it's insanely comfortable and stupid responsive. Would highly recommend pairing with the 'zy's damage' mousepad for full effect.

[@eakmadashma]

bought an orochi to replace my 305 but i found i didnt like that shape. sold the orochi for a mz1 just to try the shape and i absolutely love it. aim feels super crispy too

[@SMHakimulIslam]

this mouse doesn't just have a shape that looks cool, it has a shape that is naturally comfortable to any user whose hand isn't too small neither too big. I always hated the mice with a lot of height and bad curves bcz they felt very uncomfy.

[@XxViciousxX]

I liked my first XTRFY MZ1 so much I bought a second one for my secondary PC.

[@ee1yd]

weird

[@XxViciousxX]

@@ee1yd What's so weird about that. It would be a pain in the ass to constantly move the other mouse back and forth.

[@reynaldo7371]

I've been using it for 2 months too, it's an endgame fps mice. I can land shots that I never had before. and I also ditched my steelseries aerox 3 wireless for this wired MZ1. the cable are not in the way, so I prefer MZ1 shape compared to wireless. shoutout to Zy Rocket Jump Ninja for designed this masterpiece

[@Gatechsq21]

Very fair review 👏. I use the MZ1 and love it for gaming but can't use it for productivity. Great shape but the mouse wheel & led lighting leave a lot to be desired. On the plus side, in the words of a legend, when I hold this mouse it automatically points to someone's head!

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Funnily enough I've been using it for productivity too, even video editing.

[@Gatechsq21]

@@RocketJumpNinja didn't expect a reply from The Rocket Jump Ninja! I wish you all the success in the world. Routing for you all the way! While I have your attention - please do address the very minor criticism- mouse wheel and led lighting. Otherwise, you have struck gold!

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Mouse wheel - just tension steps more? I really like the encoder, that's all I would change (already asked Xtrfy). And LED lighting ... I'm hoping it'll sell well enough to warrant a pro version at some stage, so we'll see. Thanks for the kind words, same to you!

[@TheYYellowmamba]

It instantly felt better for me, couldn't have found a mouse more made for me

[@smuludgn]

I dont get it. Xtrfy took the risk but logitech still has no plan for an updated G303

[@WARnTEA]

I mean they made the prototype g303 wireless and it leaked already because it got lost in the mail going to a beta tester.

[@mokongkoboyong]

I'm still using my g303 almost 7 years for now bro.. Still waiting for wireless version.. Hopefully its a real good news from logitech..

[@StygianAscot]

Wish your sponsor, Corsair, would actually ship their products. Been waiting for Virtuoso XT since it launched several months ago, for them to ship product to their Canadian retailers, but no products have been shipped to Canada, even though the US retailers received stock. Arrrrgh.

[@tylermac-fung9307]

Thank you for adding the Canadian price too! Can't tell you how much I use USD to CAD

[@baitboy3191]

I think Zy addressed the scroll wheel, stating that its like that since its not used in gaming, to my knowledge literally every single fps i have played the scroll wheel is used to switch weapons

[@Kaylas1821]

Seems like quake doesn't use scroll wheel XD

[@RocketJumpNinja]

I just like these wheels. They could probably tension the steps a bit more but other than that, feels good. But yeah I rarely use scroll in game. I have all my weapons bound to keys, much faster switching.

[@adambobroy7682]

editing is on point

[@S85B50Engine]

I'm not gonna lie, I am a fingertip gripper, and when I got this mouse it improved my tracking by a lot.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Hearing this a fair bit, awesome!

[@四as]

What would you gain from lying?

[@S85B50Engine]

@@四as many people who don't use true ftip grip or use claw say that anyone who likes the shape is a paid shill

[@四as]

@@S85B50Engine I understand. It's funny. When so many people are crying wolf, it's hard to take anyone who utters "paid shill" seriously :)

[@FalseF4CZ]

I think if you fingertip grip, it is very much an endgame worth mouse for you. I claw grip and it’s a bit uncomfortable, I’ll be sticking with my Ultralight 2.

[@quinnof4390]

Mine started random clicking and switching my weapons after about a month, liked it and then I threw it against the wall.

[@djoctorok1375]

Minecraft pvpers when they hear it had adjustable denounce time: I'll take your entire stock

[@-keiskx1774]

“PvPers”

[@Alexandra-Rex]

I've been using the Roccat Kone Pure Ultra, and now the Kone Pro, and love it. I tried the Razer Viper, but can't get used to the shape, and the side buttons are very annoying, extra so on the right side (I'm right handed), and I tried it for a couple of months, while going back to the Kone Pure Ultra, it felt like home again right away. I will get this one, cause I have to give it a try being Zy's design. Btw, have you tried the scroll wheel on the Roccat Kone Pure Ultra?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Roccat Kone Pure had the best wheel and as far as I know this uses the same encoder, I've been a fan of these for a long time. That said, I think they need a bit more tension on the steps to match the Kone Pure's.

[@Alexandra-Rex]

@@RocketJumpNinja I really like the Kone Pure Ultra's wheel. The Kone Pro's wheel is ok, but not on par I think.

[@C0BEX]

I think the shape of almost any mouse is just about getting used to it. When I changed my mouse shape I always had the feeling that my old mouse had better shape. But now I realize you just have to give it time. For me at least 2 weeks of getting used to the new shape. Then suddenly you try your old mouse again a this time this one will feel awkward again.

[@tv_Florimer]

In description it says G305 is your second main after mm720, but in video you use Orochi V2? Or am i missing something?

[@RitzyBusiness]

The creak on the right side can be fixed if you pull the shell apart and then squeeze the right side side while clicking it back together. I dont know how to feel, in some situations I feel I have more control with this mouse, unholy control with micro adjustments. But have kinda settled on the orochi v2 since I am more nimble with it.

[@robertlefeaux]

I'm surprised Zy put rgb in. Weight is paramount for him and he could have shaved a few more grams by leaving out the lighting.

[@HollowRick]

It wasn't Zys decision it was xtrfys same with the holes but apparently RGB and holes sell so if this sells well enough there will be a version without RGB and holes but also new shapes in the future

[@robertlefeaux]

@@HollowRick I get that. I also hate holes, they get dirty too easily.

[@HollowRick]

@@robertlefeaux agreed 👍

[@NamelessDemon_]

Would love to try this mouse tho. On the other hand, i love the static shots of the mouse in this video, damn that looks so good, gotta agree, you do know how to use a camera lol.

[@ClannerJake]

holding onto fancy LED lights is the adult equivalent of getting your parents keys.

[@michaelrobinson9643]

I wish more mice had a left and right click in the scroll wheel which was in the past a common capability

[@TheSharpZzHD]

Can't help but seeing you have a decent HDR monitor standing in the background. Any chance to see HDR videos on the future?

[@mmorales508]

A lot more peripherals should be driverless like this. Hate when u gotta download a million different junk programs especially when you mix and match brands.

[@manslaughter9746]

Felt great for a while on the first day, felt like I found a decent grip on it but it started making my hand tired. Did this go away? I have same size hands as yours

[@feeblemind]

nope i always had pain after using this mouse. Its deff not worth lmao

[@manslaughter9746]

@@feeblemind damn that’s a shame. My hands are 19.5 x 11.5 cm I think they’re too wide for this. Maybe the viper mini would be a better fit

[@feeblemind]

@@manslaughter9746 i have same hand size. this mouse sits in a box in storage because its too uncomfortable. I also did aim lab tests for a week with it and didn't notice any improvements so it wasn't worth the loss of comfort. Mice are Copium it really doesn't matter what you use as long as its not that heavy and the shape is comfortable.

[@manslaughter9746]

@@feeblemind yeah it sucks because I like everything about it except the size. What mouse have you been using?

[@ThomasAT86]

Interestingly enough, I am about to go through 7 of Zy's reviews but wanted to watch a review on his own mouse to maybe get an idea of where he is coming from. Personally a bit dissatisfied with mouse reviews though since almost all are for gamers and very little is talked about for office use. Stopped playing games, but the average "office mouse" doesn't do it's job. Missing my MX518. Already tested 5 mice but not satisfied yet. Definitely preferring a wider mouse myself.

[@2wcp]

i'm sold. getting one right now!

[@WhiteZet1]

As someone with small hands and fingertip grip, I honestly feel like this mouse could be what I'm looking for. I use the viper mini rn, but the grooves are so far in the front, that when I play my fingers aren't in any groove, and can sorta move around annoyingly. I also can't move my hand forward even slightly, because I instantly feel the viper mini's hump in my palm. Don't think it's worth trying out though. Honestly just hope we get these smaller mice wireless eventually as recently I've been annoyed with them.

[@deathrager2404]

small hands? you never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

[@thepenguin3493]

What was the map he played in the aim trainer, and was it Kovaak 2.0?

[@sauravupd8172]

its from aim labs and the map is gridshot ultimate

[@jayasaisurya819]

0:54 Where can I get that mousepad??

[@fluphybunny930]

My cats have chewed through so many mouse wires I had to go wireless. Would definitely consider this one if it offers a wireless version.

[@Richie016]

A fairly smaller mouse with deep grooves for a better grip.

[@jankowalski1501]

polling rate cycle is not useless, older games can have a lot of problems on 1000hz with stability and lags

[@dontpokethebear3893]

what is the aim trainer seen at 8:50?

[@g1zmo85]

I got the mouse about a month ago and used it for a day or two and couldn’t get comfy, just pulled it back out and going to give it some more time to get used to and see if it can become my main. My grip is just like Zy’s but my hands are on the smaller side.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Nice, 3 weeks is the time I set ... if your hand still hurts after that, then yeah stop. And if the pain gets too bad, also stop. I fought through the pain for a while using the Diamondback, 3 weeks later it came good for me.

[@WillFuI]

thiss mouse is small but doesnt feel that small in the hands its weird. i love it

[@MrVaepOr]

its the new G303 we have all been waiting for

[@utubeb14]

I like 1k dpi and remappable thumb buttons, so no optional software is disappointing.

[@normalguy7877]

I was considering buying this mouse but then I decided to get the Orochi V2 instead because I really wanted a wireless mouse

[@slycooper4946]

Bro called liftoff distance useless... literally makes a huge difference

[@toothy]

is there is a size comparison with G Pro wireless vs this mouse

[@lazargordic6120]

Man i thought i was the only one who used all mice at 700 PDI instead of 800 :D thumbs up!

[@SteashEdits]

After watching the csgo gameplay I could tell the footage didn’t speak for itself lol (no offense). I’m already completely in love with my Xtrfy M4, so I’ll just wait and see if many pro players adopt this mouse.

[@smachine3811]

you gonna wait along moment so ..... the pro players in csgo don't gamble on shape of their mice... it's not a safe shape.

[@angelaguilar4121]

Just ordered mine thanks to this review (spending responsible of course) Switching from FK2 and ducky feather, let’s see how it goes.

[@JH-xe7jp]

it's a great mouse!

[@raphaelchagas1676]

When is the G Pro Superlight review coming?

[@Bostari]

What’s the mouse at 7:31 ?

[@GuidoDePalma]

I'm looking for a replacement of my old MM520. The 720 doesnt looks like the perfect shape so I could give this (wireless version with lower hump) a try.

[@MrSilva208]

mz1 or mm720 for big hands Fingertip grip? Is the mz1 too small like the orochi was for me?

[@LordSoulSicarious]

Damn. Some nice features to that mouse for sure, shame I'll probably never get them in a mouse with my preferred grip/layout if they got a patent on stuff like "onboard drivers" somehow. (Symmetrical palm grip with buttons on both sides - basically the SteelSeries Sensei shape).

[@Alex.R.O.P]

If you click a lot with this mouse and model O, the index finger will start to hurt. Get the xtrfy m4 instead.

[@MeowTow]

wat

[@Alex.R.O.P]

@@MeowTow i had to switch form the model O because its best for claw grip and then i started using the M4 from xtrefy because its good for palm grip and helps to support my fingers. i dont remember the right term for, when the fingers hurt, after clicking for 4 hours etc.

[@picaseso]

I was wondering for a review after some time of use

[@Flying--T]

4:22 "more mice should allow remapping the top button" WHAT? Nearly every half-decent mice with software can do that. Only being able to map F11 or Page Down to it is a downside and flaw, not something positive. Honestly, you are way to positive about this mice.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

In context he's talking about mice that don't need software, obviously you can remap any button on the mice that have software. We prefer mice without software. Software just clogs up PCs. The less, the better.

[@Flying--T]

@@RocketJumpNinja Honestly, if you spend this amount on a mice, your PC is powerful enough to run some mini-software in the background. Look at the Sharkoon Light² 100, the fully features software only needs 17 Mb of RAM.

[@TurntableTV]

@@Flying--T What about people that don't use Windows as their main operating system? Most of the software that gaming mice have is Windows exclusive. Me, personally, I prefer mice that don't have software running in the background, as I use Linux, Windows and macOS.

[@Flying--T]

@@TurntableTV Gaming is still mostly Windows-based, so I dont see an issue. Or just set your settings once, save it to the mice and you are good to go using another OS

[@mikekonkola1231]

Just got this for Christmas. I love the comfort groves. I love the clicks and cable. However my pinky finger feels like it just lays on the side but offers me no control. I feel like I'm aiming with just my thumb and ring finger. I much rather prefer the m42 because it has a wider back and my pinky gets locked in for perfect control. The m42 has bad switches and a bad cable. I wish I can have a m42 with the comfort groves, mz1 cable and mz1 clicks. Also have the m42 with no holes on side would be great to

[@babyquakes]

the pagedown bind isnt for scrolling lol its because in valorant (and probably other games) you cant bind to f11 but you can bind to pagedown

[@CrimeMiz]

I can't try a mouse that's more expensive than my main mouse just to try to make it fit, I've already tried with the viper mini and it was too narrow to control, not to mention moving it down with claw configuration made my ring finger click the right button. Especially as a hybrid claw gripper, never been comfortable with palming a mouse that's small. The only mouse that I didn't even need to adapt to was MM711 it fit perfectly and I noticed performance within the first hour. I find it weird that you make a competitive shooters mouse, small sized, light weight and everything with no back support forcing claw grippers to palm. It's a risk I respect but it fulfilled RJN's needs and not the audience. I can't judge yet I haven't tried it but I can't personally call a single mouse to be the perfect shape for myself which is why I keep trying different shapes but still imagine calling a mouse perfect for others. That's risky and can make or break the products marketing. Very interesting would definitely try it if it's available in the Middle East. Xtrfy needs to work in wider markets just like HyperX are doing. Thanks for the review Dimitry!

[@Kaylas1821]

RJN is fingertip fanatic and hates other grips claiming that they are worse 🤡 at least he did in the past. This Mouse is designed specifically for fingertip. Mouse from Zy for Zy as i said when i saw mz1.

[@fullmetaflak]

Picked one up, gave it a shot, but I have very "square" hands, and MZ1 gave me hand cramps, so I sent it back. I can definitely see all the good in the mouse, but it's definitely not the mouse for me.

[@seymourbutts8739]

Would you recommend this for claw grip? Small hands

[@kendokaaa]

At this point I just want a mouse that doesn't develop a problem with double clicking or not detecting clicks half the time after a few years. I've heard Omron switches are the cause but so far it seems most mice have this problem

[@四as]

Why don't you learn some rudimentary soldering then?

[@kendokaaa]

@@四as What makes you think I don't know how to solder? How about I prefer products that don't die for no reason after a few years? What an odd way to approach what I said

[@四as]

@@kendokaaa how many years are enough years? If you have a problem that n one's fixing for you, you can either wait around or fix it yourself. Your call.

[@kkona3868]

Only downside of this mouse to me is that it ruined me on every other mouse shape ive tried, once i got used to the hump in the back it just feels so natural which makes the normal hump in middle shape mice do odd to go back to

[@z4nn1ch]

@Hardware Canucks, 0:37 flipping everyone looking and you mouse off while grabbing the mz1 is not the poilte way tbh

[@PoutouPtou11]

yeah the middel button is very sticky at the bottom

[@sEaNoYeAh]

Good for fingertip grip and smaller hands, not good for most claw grips and really horrible for large hands, and horrible for tilt grips. Also the year hump compromises range of motion for wrist aim and so is particularly impractical for games that require extended bursts of tracking like Apex and Overwatch. But I can only applaud Xtrfy for making this, and if there's one massive bit of praise I can give Zy and all his work it's that his reviews have taught me the ways in which my tastes differ from his and how his takes on different shapes will apply to my larger hands. M4 still the best Xtrfy model for a tilt grip, high sens big hands claw gripper like me.

[@everybodylieshm]

I've tried this mouse for a while but the issue for me is that it's not designed to be used outside of gaming. It can be ofcourse but other mice have a MUCH more comfortable shape so why bother? It has to be comfortable 100% of the time and a shape like this simply is not. Again this is just for me.

[@devlohia8035]

Please make a video on your setups

[@kazia.7341]

What is the name of the shooting game he was playing in the beginnning?

[@rhythimrt9970]

Got one and first apex match with it I pulled my first 4.5k damage game...

[@RocketJumpNinja]

For real? Epic

[@rhythimrt9970]

@@RocketJumpNinja 100%. I was wondering; However, if this mouse had parallels with minimalist footwear theory? The principle is that your foot and tendons are meant to move, and that regular shoes prevent such movement. Most peoples Achilles tendons (ankle) are infact shrivelled by 25%. Your mouse removes the hump (Like the heel toe drop in shoes) inhibiting motion on most mice, leaving your hand with a void that it's free to move in. I think this is what causes the long break in period.. your hand has to strengthen for it.

[@nyxaim909]

got one on day 1 but im unsure if its the one! i might try g pro superlight.

[@option_n]

The g pro x will feel incredibly large and high profile in comparison. Just to let you know. It's a great mouse nonetheless. I had plenty of mice over the past months and my top 5 are :mz1, hyperx pulsfire haste, np01-s, mm720, burst pro. In that order for some reference. Maybe it will help you decide.

[@nyxaim909]

@@option_n yeah my only concern and the reason iv delayed getting the g pro is due to size. Past 2 years I have used viper mini, model o- , g203, m42 and mz1.

[@MrVybson]

Ngl I'd rather use a shape I'm comfortable with than something that "on paper" "should" be "better" for competitive gaming. I tried a few "competitively shaped" ambi mice, but never played as well as I do with my Pwnage UC clone now. Still wanna try this mouse out to see if it's actually viable, but I'm poor.

[@normalguy7877]

1:02 I don't see why this is a good thing that he patented the mouse

[@S85B50Engine]

So HK Gaming doesn't copy it.

[@hxsjdbdjavs]

So the Chinese won't shamelessly copy it like they always do

[@jforce321]

@@hxsjdbdjavs if you think the Chinese have ever cared about copyright in any country that isn't theirs then you're sorely mistaken LOL

[@Djare915]

Does anyone had experience with the xtrfy m1?I struggle to find reviews and it's on sale now in my country...

[@felicosantosa8400]

I have one and i love it but after a couple of weeks mine started to disconnect frequently, i tried returning it to my retailer but they said the mouse was fine and there was nothing wrong with it. Is there a solution to this?

[@MehKore]

Could be a faulty cable, you could try plugging in one from another mouse with the same pin out, and if it turns out to be the cause, maybe get a paracord cable.

[@felicosantosa8400]

I tried and my other mouse worked fine.

[@MehKore]

@@felicosantosa8400 Well, then the only other thing that comes to mind would be the USB issues people have reported on recent AMD Chipsets, but I thought those were addressed by now. If you have the newest drivers or use Intel, and if the issue persists on other PCs aswell, I guess you'll have to buy a new one.

[@felicosantosa8400]

@@MehKore they're out of stock in my region and if i want another one i'd probably have to buy it at resell price

[@HollowRick]

Contact Xtrfy they have great customer service :)

[@VTJasmine69]

YES YOU PUT A TIMER FOR SOUND TESTING SEGMENTS!!! BEEN COMMENTING THIS ANYWHERE I SEE SOUND TESTS!! HELPS ME NOT BLOW OUT MY EARS TRYING TO HEAR THE ITEMS OF TOPIC

[@DangerGnom]

Caps lock....check your keyboard.

[@donottouch9110]

I am disappointed it ain't wireless cause this mouse is not a competition against the g703 from logitech

[@Kaylas1821]

Yeah competition to g703 will be overpriced mediocre mouse. Which mz1 is not. Overpriced, but not mediocre

[@Luis-wp3qt]

It's not supposed to compete with it tho

[@donottouch9110]

@@Kaylas1821 the g703 is cheaper than this mouse wtf are you talking about it's 69.99 on Amazon

[@donottouch9110]

@@Luis-wp3qt when you make a mouse of a certain price it competes against every mouse in that category if not then it's a useless product

[@Luis-wp3qt]

@@donottouch9110 Okay but it's a completely different mouse. One's ambi and one's ergo. One's lightweight and one's heavy. One's small and one's big. And people wouldn't even think that it's supposed to compete with the G703 because there are other mice out there that matches up with this one. For example the M42, Pulsefire Haste, or other lightweight wired mice. I'm surprised that you brought up the G703.

[@Akrinaful]

srsly i love this mouse shape, iam a hugh fan of Zy and his mouse reviews ... but within 3 months i have to buy 2 of the XTRFY mices because of cable break ... today i have the second cable break of this mice. Switch on my old Glorious Odin O back ... actually I don't want that but what should I do?

[@olsaaan]

do u have a mouse bungie? they should stop paracord cables getting damaged as much

[@Akrinaful]

yeah i got a bungie from zowie... btw got a new mouse - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with grip tape, new favorite!