I GET HEATED OVER "GROWING THE GAME" // RANTING & PLAYING COURSE VLOG

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Paige Spiranac

Paige Spiranac

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@PaigeSpiranac
@PaigeSpiranac 5 жыл бұрын
How do you think we can grow the game? What ways have you felt excluded from golf or uncomfortable on the course? I want to know!
@markbucek4879
@markbucek4879 5 жыл бұрын
Paige Spiranac , well Paige first the cost of many courses is way too high. And golf equipment is way too expensive too. Somehow we have to lower the prices, I like you 3 hole idea maybe for $5. Also he play is way too slow, probably like you said from watching too much tv. People who can't hit the ball 100 yards are waiting for someone 300 yards in front of them and not hitting. Maybe in putting we can give each other more short puts to hurry the game or like you said pick up on a bad hole... Will try and think of more ways.. When we play with more beginner golfers we play scrambles and best ball which really helps the game along
@SaneAsylum
@SaneAsylum 5 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest impediment is cost. The only way to address cost is to halve the course with shorter holes (and maybe less holes). I honestly think that the game should diverge into a shorter course requiring more finesse (say 12 par 3's with more hazards because they require less maintenance) and longer traditional courses requiring strength and agility. Un-Tiger proof courses and tiger proof courses. You can make a chip and putt 12 hole par 3 course for half (or less) the acreage of an elite course and with less upkeep and maintenance costs. That could make it affordable. If you want to increase pace, have multiple cups per green or multiple greens per fairway with a row of trees between.
@MADLITS1K
@MADLITS1K 5 жыл бұрын
Why does it always sound like you’re out of breath?
@vladislawr1594
@vladislawr1594 5 жыл бұрын
simple practice fields for young kids .. get them on the grass young ... add them to regular parks..
@jacobr4558
@jacobr4558 5 жыл бұрын
The first place to start is the pro shop. I have been made uncomfortable many times by the person behind the counter. Generally they are a former/wannabe player who should not be in CUSTOMER service! They should have truly friendly, warm people that are all about making you feel welcomed and appreciated. Instead it's usually some dude bro sizing people up and making you feel judged(it's like when you have a food server who judges you and asks-"bottled or TAP water...that person should not be a food server imo). Same with the "starter" Generally some older man who is more concerned about killing time and getting free golf. Lastly they should not send groups out so close to each other. It's all money driven. Growing the game is a bunch of nonsense. It's about business and not the game. Golf isnt for everyone. It's hard and time consuming. No amount of gadgets, tips, tricks or equipment can fix people.
@kevingreenwald3217
@kevingreenwald3217 5 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, growing up in golf since the mid-80s, times have definitely changed and I feel you are spot on with the issues you bring up. You are awesome Paige and I am glad you brought all of this up because it's not just you who feels this way, its really a lot of people out there too. I would say the number one factor is how expensive golf is. Golf only appeals to the people who can afford it. The equipment today cost a fortune and the green fees are very expensive. Back in the day, I remember it used to cost 18 dollars for a round of golf 18 holes.
@mattbagot1236
@mattbagot1236 5 жыл бұрын
Maltby and Snell are doing wonderful things to make golf more available to more people. I got a set of irons with premium shafts and grips built to my specs for under $350.00 and they are AMAZING. Snell makes one of the best balls out there for < $30 a dozen. I am so happy with both of these companies and what they are doing for golf! So glad I found them.
@markjpad
@markjpad 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad I watched this particular video. You made some really amazing points about how some golf "elitists" make others feel bad for trying to join and learn the game. I especially appreciated your discussion on posting videos without others consent. I think it's great that along with this you are part of the cybersmile organization. Really amazing work and great topic. Thank you for this video.
@jacquesonu5905
@jacquesonu5905 5 жыл бұрын
I’m new to golf and you’ve done a great job at hitting many points that can turn an individual away from golfing. I’m glad that I was able to get through that myself. I’ve learned to truly appreciate the game to its core.
@larryorrman5235
@larryorrman5235 5 жыл бұрын
Paige - I love your videos....I'm a Marshal at a public course and see a variety of reasons for slow play. One of the biggest is guys playing off the wrong tee, sometimes from the tips when they can barely drive the ball 150-180 yards. Another is guys just standing on the tee box talking and on the greens taking turns lining up every putt like it was the Masters. Our Marshals roam the course and monitor play. One thing we did to speed play was to fill in about 15 sand traps leaving just 12 on the course. Our greens are all elevated and there are natural grass bunkers around the greens. Guys are now spending a lot less time hacking out of the sand. We do offer 9 and 18 hole rates and also twilight rates. Our course also has Free Clinics for beginners (men, women, and youth) conducted by our PGA Pro and Asst. PGA Pro. The purpose is to get new people interested in golf.
@donaldcormier7439
@donaldcormier7439 5 жыл бұрын
I love playing golf and of course watching your vids Paige! For me, if I go to any golf course and the staff treat me like I'm bothering them then that makes me feel like they don't want my business and I go elsewhere. Everyone has bad days but if you work in any type of customer service job, be nice to the customers!!
@laurasplicer712
@laurasplicer712 2 жыл бұрын
when courses have high turnover rate of employees you know somethings up. Time to find new course i say!!
@danheinbaugh8442
@danheinbaugh8442 5 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with the points at the start of the video. People today are so focused on themselves that they don't see that what they are doing is actually making the situation worse for everyone else. If people would have more awareness when commenting or arguing about stuff, better discussions would happen and good people, like Paige, wouldn't have to explain obvious things on the Internet. Keep up the good work Paige!
@victorpinelo2711
@victorpinelo2711 5 жыл бұрын
Paige your down to earthness is like a breath of fresh air for the game of golf!! 👍🏻
@bernieu2234
@bernieu2234 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of pay by the hole on muni courses. You're right about kids' attention spans. Here's another idea perhaps for private or semi private courses: I think it was Jack Nicklaus who floated the idea of making golf a 12 hole game. The advantage here is that most courses could divide their course into three 6 hole tracks. So people who don't have the time or get tired or whatever, can play 6 holes, most people would likely play 12, and keeners can go for 18. This added flexibility to playing duration would appeal to beginners, one would think. And probably even regulars--- Let's face it: We've all had a round where everything is going wrong, and being able to bail after 6 holes to end the ordeal would have been the humane thing.
@charlesgrube2535
@charlesgrube2535 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto. I work at a golf course I try my best to take care of it. And I’ve been playing two years now so I just have fun 🍻🖖😘🤟
@butchanderson4341
@butchanderson4341 4 жыл бұрын
I would say to help the game, is create more Par 3 courses, make more 9 hole courses under the lights for those who work crazy hours. Etiquette, don’t put down or snub the beginners, we all were beginners at some point. I’m not keyed for slow play, but there are some who do play slow, those people need to show courtesy and let faster players go through at the next tee box. You have to make the game fun and enjoyable for the new players, or they will give up on it and we lose future players. Make public courses more affordable, and I agree with you Paige, there should not only be a 9 or 18 hole price option, but also a single hole,’or at least a 3 hole price. Some people might want to get in 3 quick holes during the week. Again, thank you for all the videos you do, the podcasts and just sharing your life’s passion, and just being you and keeping it real 😉
@jimlangdon1947
@jimlangdon1947 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Paige. Taught my daughter and son how to swing a golf club before they were 10. Would take the kids to the range, drink coffee near them while they hit balls just for fun, They liked that. At age 10, my son played his first 9 holes and scored 54. But he never took up the game. My daughter had a great swing (she also pitched in baseball), had much athletic ability in golf. But she never tried to play the game as she didn’t see the point. Anyway, as an adult she can still maybe pick up the game - should she ever wish to do so. There are so many choices for activities these days. Good luck with your ideas to grow the game. I will try a little to do my part.
@andyw.6273
@andyw.6273 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny, I love golf and def. endorse it's growth.. but when I play golf, I am never thinking, "y'know .. I wish more people played golf" .. it's more like, "y'know?.. I wish less people played golf". hahaha
@MrJim1032
@MrJim1032 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the VLOG. My middle son will not go back to the range because so many people were staring at him while learning how to swing I will be recommending this VLOG to him to watch.
@jimpyke3514
@jimpyke3514 5 жыл бұрын
At our club we play “ready golf”. Basically that means hit when you are ready on the tee. Mark your card after teeing off. Be aware off other players behind and in front of you on the course. Your position on the golf course is behind the group in front not in front of the group behind. Keep up the great vlogs xxx Also we need you to come over to Australia and play sometime
@wisconsinite920
@wisconsinite920 5 жыл бұрын
Many great points in this video Paige! I wish there were more par 3 courses in my area. Hitting the ball far and straight is hard to do. To get people to enjoy golf, it needs to be fun. I have three nieces that I would LOVE to get into golf. The oldest recently said, "I don't get golf." That's the problem. There need to be more incremental ways to introduce them to the game. For all the issues with dress code, cost, slow play and everything else, step one is to get them to want to try it!
@albertbeasley6005
@albertbeasley6005 4 жыл бұрын
Your doing great at growing the game. Your spot on about the game. Keep bringing it!👍🏌⛳🇺🇸❤😀
@planetdog1641
@planetdog1641 5 жыл бұрын
more driving ranges and short game areas to practice.....and people need to play faster...more, smaller, beginner type courses where people can play quick rounds without making an all day event commitment.
@jayvee1947
@jayvee1947 5 жыл бұрын
Edward Middlecamp Yes. Just like Bethpage Black has a warning sign about difficulty of course and should be played by only highly skilled golfers, there should be beginners courses that have signs that say for newbies.
@cpkunlimited8558
@cpkunlimited8558 5 жыл бұрын
If your in a rush find a new hobby
@sloebone7399
@sloebone7399 5 жыл бұрын
CPK Unlimited - Golf is unique in that it’s played basically in a single file line. We’re only as fast as the slowest players among us. You don’t have to be in a rush, just be ready to play when it’s your turn. Just be aware that you’re not just taking your time, you’re taking the time of everyone behind you.
@EmmanuelGoldstein74
@EmmanuelGoldstein74 4 жыл бұрын
Hey planet Dog. What if I were playing with you and I was taking a real real long time? I mean really long time. I mean the kind of slow that you’d want someone to blow your brains out. How would you handle that? What would you say to me? Let’s you and me play this scenario out. I think this would be very educational for everyone here.
@jeremystafford8374
@jeremystafford8374 5 жыл бұрын
Paige, I've watched a number of your video's now . And my opinion is this -- I would love to see you apply yourself to your golf game and play much more competitive golf . For someone that doesn't play competitive golf for non golfing reasons, the best way for you to make a noise in this snobbish industry ( my opinion ). Would be to ignore the few small narrow minded people, and entertain the masses with your very obvious talent . Thanks for all your efforts and good luck moving forward
@eggy68
@eggy68 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Paige, I like your thoughts. I especially agree that we need to be better about educating/encouraging new players and losing the condescension. As for cost - I play a little 9-hole in Mesa using very nice clubs I found at local thrifts. Rounds end up costing between $9-15 for 9 holes and my buddy and I usually have a great time. Golf doesn't have to be expensive to be fun. With that said, we also put up with folks who can't play 9 holes without drinking a case of cheap beer and blasting a boom box (even at 7 AM). I think there needs to be an understanding that casual does not mean slovenly and rude. Have a good time - and respect the other golfers on the course.
@palepants9475
@palepants9475 5 жыл бұрын
Watching videos of people like you, the Golfholics, and Brodie Smith make me want to get back in the game. Kudos: you are helping grow the game. Speaking of those guys, can we expect any more golf played with them? I know you did some trick stuff with Brodie but a regular round would be fun to see. He's getting pretty good.
@harlanroeser7546
@harlanroeser7546 5 жыл бұрын
Another great conversation, love ur style. Topgolf is growing the game. Everyone has fun there no matter how they swing. Women's Day at the course, Family Day, make the staff loosen up. I just don't like going into the pro shop to sign up still. Very unwelcoming unless u know the staff well. Design shorter courses, a par 4 with shorter yardages. Take beginners on the course for 4-5 holes & show them how to play on the course, not just on the driving range. U r correct, u must make golf fun & exciting. I still love golf & wish I could play more with friends & have fun at it.
@timhaigh2484
@timhaigh2484 5 жыл бұрын
To change the story on pace of play, I suggest courses offer a refund of 5-10% or a credit of 5-10% toward the next round to groups that finish within the suggested round duration (usually 4-4.5 hours for 18 standard length holes). The cool thing about this is that instead of groups infuriating others on the basis of different paces of play, all groups can collectively strive to finish in a timely (but Not Rushed) manner that has the added bonus of money back in the pocket. If I was an owner of a public course, I would definitely institute this, especially since, marshals have seem to gone out of vogue. I’m in favor of incentivizing positive self-policing of pace of play.
@rbilardo47
@rbilardo47 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and content. You speak down to earth and speak of things that mostly everyone has been there and done that. I've worked at a Public Golf Course and it was very inexpensive to play 18 holes, and the course got a lot of play. I believe everything you are saying, and I hope the game of golf becomes more and more for the average american. Thanks for all of your views.
@Eravis671
@Eravis671 5 жыл бұрын
For pace of play my club has two courses, I find that helps as it certainly reduces the wait times as you can just check before going or ask in the club house which course is quieter on the day
@johnmonteagudo8164
@johnmonteagudo8164 5 жыл бұрын
Love it when you are open and honest with your feelings. As far as "growing the game" We need to do everything we can to encourage youth and minority participation. Build putting greens and golf simulators in low income urban schools. Support our local municipal courses. Organize free golf field trips for youth at local courses starving for traffic and attention.. There is a great example in San Diego at Goat Hill. They built a tiny 3 hole course just for kids. No set green fee. Just a donation of your choice. I just bought a friends 7 year old a set of clubs and will be taking him there to have fun. And by fun I mean letting him have fun and not stressing him out about the rules of golf. Instead I will be saying things like, make this put and I'll treat you to an ice cream.
@myopenmind527
@myopenmind527 5 жыл бұрын
My local championship golf course has opened its doors to junior members. My 12 & 13 year old daughters love golf and hope to get their handicaps this year. There are close to 170 junior boy members and 40 junior girls. This is a big step in the right direction.
@5086nashua
@5086nashua 5 жыл бұрын
Par 3’s are a great way for kids and adults to get into the game.
@russellkempe3231
@russellkempe3231 3 жыл бұрын
I have taken my game to the Country. I am tired of the 5 1/2 hr rounds in the city. Most metro areas have doubled in population size and the number of courses has stayed the same. So, my recommendation is to find a nice place about 100 miles away from where you live and try that course out. Maybe invest in a time-share, rental, or buy a second home to retire to. Life is too short to sit in a golf cart for 5 hours.
@Concordeagle
@Concordeagle 5 жыл бұрын
Love how low you get on the downswing, very athletic and powerful. It's also a very difficult move and takes years to master.
@bruceweir1337
@bruceweir1337 4 жыл бұрын
How to grow the game. There is a game called Operation 36. The goal is to shoot 36 for 9 holes. If you are a beginner, you might tee off from 75 yards to the pin. Once you shoot 36 for 9 holes, you move back 25 more yards and try to shoot 36 from that distance. Beginners feel more comfortable if they gradually get used to playing a little longer course rather than playing from a tee that is too long for their ability.
@4_the_health_of_it
@4_the_health_of_it 5 жыл бұрын
My son just started playing the game this last season, playing on his HS team. He is a football and basketball player but so far his experience has been positive. But, I can see where some folks can be less inviting to the game. I want to him to continue playing golf, since I told him any other possible career he has in either football or basketball is short lived (likely only through the collegiate level). Golf he can play well into old age. I saw one way to help him grow his game is get him one on one lessons. Yes, I know that may not be available to everyone ($$$) but for him it has been a great thing. He is already athletic but he needed to understand more about the efficiency of the swing. I do wish lessons were a little less expensive, because I think they are great way to grow one’s game.
@NickMasseyRideon
@NickMasseyRideon 5 жыл бұрын
2:00 I couldnt agree more and I am not going to be PC when I say its the "gentlemans" club attitude and the clubs not willing to change for fear of driving off certain clientele
@fluffpuckot
@fluffpuckot 5 жыл бұрын
Pace of play is certainly important. I think there is a lot to it to play shorter courses, with equipment not going as far as it does today. I love playing with hickory clubs, playing tees which makes the course somewhere around 5500 yards. Usually takes just a bit over 3 hours to play 18 holes. Keep up the good work!
@eldridgesmart5516
@eldridgesmart5516 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on with your suggestions with getting more folks golfing. 100% I honestly don't see how one could speed up the game, besides a 2 put limit or best ball with big groups. Cost is a big factor. A group of kids only need a ball to play, basketball, football or soccer. Thanks for the video & may GOD bless you.
@Mikey-gl1je
@Mikey-gl1je 5 жыл бұрын
Well said Paige. All very good points.
@glennwatson3313
@glennwatson3313 5 жыл бұрын
To grow the game we have to encourage PE coaches to give students a chance to play golf.
@cpkunlimited8558
@cpkunlimited8558 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@paulbaluch439
@paulbaluch439 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for all those great tips. I will definitely be watching more of your golf videos thanks for all you do🏌️‍♀️⛳👍👍👍
@brownericmichael
@brownericmichael 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, Paige. Keep up the good work. Regarding pace, how about if you have a group holding up everyone behind them, split them into twosomes. It should unwind in a hole or two. Also, when I take my beginner friends/family out, we pick up and all play from the best shot through the hole. Take care and come back to CO for a round or two.
@richardemlyn-williams6504
@richardemlyn-williams6504 5 жыл бұрын
That’s called a Texas scramble in the uk.
@blaisemedved9802
@blaisemedved9802 5 жыл бұрын
Yo Paige that 3 hole rate idea sounds great .. being a golfer seeking inexpensive ways to play more it would be a nice way to get a golf fix
@cliftonmanley3882
@cliftonmanley3882 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Paige, as usual. I find it amusing, and definitively frustrating, that golf really hasn't seemed to change in 48 years I've been playing. When I was a junior in the 70s I was abused by members for the crime of winning a weekend competition. Yelled at when I picked up my trophies. The Club Captain of Eastlakes GC in Sydney attempted to cheat me out of a Monthly Medal until I called him on it in front of the Presentation.... it makes me laugh now, so many years later. I don't believe it was justified then, and it is not justified today. Keep up the good work, I attempt to smooth the path for other golfers as much as I can.
@enthusiastic16
@enthusiastic16 5 жыл бұрын
I also think the pros should do more like you. Play the public courses with fans and more interactive. Even football or baseball players have camps and all sorts of things. Those are dream experiences for a lot of ppl
@bernieu2234
@bernieu2234 2 жыл бұрын
One more thing: Having some kind of mentor in golf is huge. My parents were immigrants and golf wasn't part of their world. But when I was around 9, my friend's dad loaded 3 of us brats into his station wagon and took us golfing. He just gave us a few pointers, but just basically let us have fun. Later on, a high school buddy who was a regular golfer took me golfing numerous times. On my own, I definitely would have felt awkward going to a golf course, but just being with a "golfer" totally took that away. So you "golfers" out there: Take a non-golfer under your wing for a round or 3. (and go easy on the advice). They'll never forget it!
@gregthompson9434
@gregthompson9434 4 жыл бұрын
I sort of agree with the dress code , thing is I also believe the more public courses will shut down or become private the more lax they become
@earlblevins1284
@earlblevins1284 3 жыл бұрын
You are quite right. Who knows how many potential golf enthusiasts are chased off by self-appointed experts and slow play. Your ideas are worth considering; particularly regarding the "number of holes."
@Sarlat6
@Sarlat6 5 жыл бұрын
Years ago there were many small golf shops in my city. They are all gone. There is only a Golftown. Most iron sets are over $1,000. Drivers are $500+ and wedges $180+. Not sure where beginners go to get reasonably priced sets.
@andrewthomas2970
@andrewthomas2970 5 жыл бұрын
I played a course once where they had a very large and catchy sign by the first tee that no one could miss that no one could say they did not see. The sign stated reminders to a few of the important responsibilities all players must abide by.. Keeping pace with the group in front of you was in bold lettering as well Divots & ball marks and respect to the coarse and others. I don't remember the exact wording it was 35 years ago but Paige, it was awesome because it worked. This should be a standard for all public course's. A well made sign Disneyland like that will dress up the tee with these reminders. By doing so this leaves a snowball effect of players who then feel free to remind any one who does not abide. It brings out the watch dog in us. This is what I believe will work best. It reminds some who need to be reminded while it helps educate others and the ones who don't need it think its great and will help support the cause. I always look for some type of sign at public course's and what you find is what you have to find and if you find it its never on the first tee or on a driving range target where you have to see it. Bold lettering less said simple English leaves a photo impression in the mind up to 35 years anyway lol , no it really does. I like your views on respect and how to treat others on the course. This is the practise
@jimstowell1166
@jimstowell1166 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly I think we are at "peak golf." Your observations are valid....hope they bring some positive changes...
@lancemiller6204
@lancemiller6204 5 жыл бұрын
Paige, the main reason the pace of the game is slow is because golf clubs are notorious for OVER SELLING the golf course, even in Arizona in the summer!
@jamesnelson6381
@jamesnelson6381 5 жыл бұрын
That's part of it. The other is people playing courses from tees they have no business playing. Not uncommon to see a guy on the tips that can't get it past 250 yards with the driver.
@palepants9475
@palepants9475 5 жыл бұрын
My home town had 4 public courses and you could buy an unlimited pass each season. That was great because you have to play at lot to be any good, but playing a lot costs a lot if you pay per play.
@griswalds2
@griswalds2 5 жыл бұрын
I started playing later in life, around 35. I found golf to be a microcosm of life. The good, the bad and yes, even the ugly.
@benveitch9260
@benveitch9260 5 жыл бұрын
Speed of play comes down to players awareness on the course and where they playing partners are, Also just playing hit when ready golf. Also dress rules need to be relaxed , and have fun
@khairulhafizkhairuddin5967
@khairulhafizkhairuddin5967 5 жыл бұрын
Keep it up Paige! Hoping for more vids to come from you. Probably more pros can spend the time to educate and encourage people to play rather than club officials emphasising on penalties and club rules! Cheers!
@zombiehunter4394
@zombiehunter4394 5 жыл бұрын
Cost of golf is the #1 factor keeping people out of golf. By the time you buy clubs (fitted to the person), golf balls, clothing as you state in your video and green fees, the cost is so great most people decide they can’t afford to enter into the sport/hobby. I entered in very slowly as I was given an old outdated set of clubs. Unfortunately, being 6’ 5”, the clubs were not anywhere close to fitting me. I used them though and stuck with it at the cheapest golf course until I could afford a cheap fitted set of clubs. It was still expensive! Once a new person starts playing, it is a little intimidating on the course. I was yelled and cussed out on a number of occasions due to my slower play and not fully understanding the etiquette on a course. It would be good to have a better tolerance for new players on the cheapest courses in a particular area. This would allow new players to continue improving in the game and keep them from being chased off from the sport/hobby. On another topic...here’s an idea for your series of videos on KZbin. How about once or possibly several times a month you pick 3 beginner players and golf with them. You could assist in giving them a lesson on the course for your KZbin series. Just a thought! Anyway, love your channel and have learned a great deal over the past year and a half.
@joep7584
@joep7584 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you Paige. I need a knee op so have to hire a cart every time I play & cart hireage are freaking expensive to. I would pay way more if the carts were less. Keep it up Paige!!! 🏌️‍♀️⛳👏😊
@chessmaster476
@chessmaster476 5 жыл бұрын
Paige great comments and vlog. I am glad you are "ranting" because it brings your basic honesty to the game. by the way you are soooooooooo cute in those purple tights!! Five stars for being so pretty and playing awesome golf! :)
@bretwells7487
@bretwells7487 5 жыл бұрын
What stats are you using to determine golf is not growing? The muni courses at my house are always packed with all age ranges. If you dont want to be on the course for 5 hours only play 9 holes.
@Somerled_1
@Somerled_1 5 жыл бұрын
Same here. New york city municipal courses are very crowded!
@chipcrane830
@chipcrane830 5 жыл бұрын
Not what she said
@bobbys4327
@bobbys4327 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarkSmith-lz5rk it is very difficult to swing and text at the same time lol..
@adamseidel9780
@adamseidel9780 5 жыл бұрын
I haven’t played a round over 4:15 yet this year, so I don’t have great solutions there, but every time I’ve been slowed down this year, it’s usually because of kids or obvious new players in front of me who are both struggling to play and wasting a lot of time... but then that gets back to the accessibility element. Not sure you can really have both.
@jayvee1947
@jayvee1947 5 жыл бұрын
Paige, I have seen golf courses that have two holes on a green. One is the traditional one. The other is an oversized hole that uses a white and orange checkered flag. Speed up play by taking less putts per round. Have you seen these oversized holes?
@Jagluvr19
@Jagluvr19 5 жыл бұрын
A few things - have some courses be wise enough to convert to a shorter yardage, more wide open concept with fewer hazards - would make the game more enjoyable for beginners/seniors and possibly families for teaching the kids. Get rid of the re-tee on out of bounds on public courses...take the penalty, drop and hit where it went out and move on. Reduce the amount of sand bunkers and convert to grass bunkers or at minimum only sand base and grass walled. Many people don't rake the bunkers after they play out and many that do take forever doing it. Courses not only need starters but rangers for pace also. There are a few courses around here that have implemented that strategy and it has helped pace tremendously!!
@frankwebb5421
@frankwebb5421 5 жыл бұрын
I think that in order to grow the game, clubs have to be cheaper/more accessible. Clubs these days are insanely expensive
@soundking4
@soundking4 5 жыл бұрын
You can cobble together a perfectly good set of clubs for under $100. I personally have two $5 clubs from a local Goodwill in my bag. If you are a 20-handicapper and think that a $1,500 set of clubs is the solution, you are smoking the good stuff!
@jmc08titan
@jmc08titan 5 жыл бұрын
Except u can easily buy cheap clubs, u just don’t because u want brand name...well u gotta pay for that!
@MrTuberguber
@MrTuberguber 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a bunch of Ben Hogan shirts at W Mart for fifteen dollars. There's deals to be had for guys if you look.I walk when it's doable, that saves $. Now, the price of clubs has gotten up there.. Some courses that are busy develop a bit of an attitude (unwelcoming) or have grouchy rangers. They also sometimes make leagues a priority and make us feel like an afterthought.
@joeycameron4744
@joeycameron4744 5 жыл бұрын
Everything you said I agree with. My entire outfit probably costs less than her leggings. New club prices are insane...and why I've always bought used. And the league thing...I know that is how courses make their money, but I've had courses tell me they couldn't let me on because their league will be starting in 2 hours and I only wanted to play a quick 9. I've never gone back to that course because of that.
@michaelsaiz1925
@michaelsaiz1925 2 жыл бұрын
Equipment is a little bit expensive and give you the option to make a tee time two weeks in advance. Go off in threes
@scoogsy
@scoogsy 5 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting. Thanks for the great ideas. I like the concept of relaxing things, and bringing the fun. Keep up the great work :-)
@adambates21
@adambates21 5 жыл бұрын
We have a couple bars around my area that have simulators in them. No dress code, each simulator has a four person bar at it where you can eat and drink. 4 person 18 holes takes about two hours. No walking, no searching for balls and you can play some legendary courses
@icawn
@icawn 4 жыл бұрын
my elementary and middle school would take us bowling for a week each year as part of PE class. I stuck with it for 25 years and counting. Top Golf blowing up the last few years in big cities is great---it incorporates the technology and phone app, which seduces the kids. this could become a standard field trip for schools if the two started talking.
@TheMATTYD7587
@TheMATTYD7587 5 жыл бұрын
off topic, but cool song/video match up at 4:15! :)
@shaunbarnes4420
@shaunbarnes4420 5 жыл бұрын
Good points Paige on the changing the pricing on just a couple of holes. Question, how will the courses enforce this?
@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore
@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore 5 жыл бұрын
I know where I live in Germany to make it more accessible for everyone!! In the US that is not a problem so much!! It has gotten better here but could be easier. Maybe ease up on the dress code a bit not completely!! I totally agreee with your comment on the dress code for public courses!! More Par 3 courses would help too!! Great video Paige!!
@sandylake304
@sandylake304 4 жыл бұрын
Agree that golf is too expensive and elitist. I’d like to see courses here in AZ give a resident rate like they do in other states. Torrey Pines in CA for example was $35 for local players and $150 for out of state players. In AZ the tourists have just driven a lot of rates through the roof so that most residents can only afford to play in the summer when it’s 110 degrees.
@Golfmann
@Golfmann 5 жыл бұрын
Teaching people to be AWARE and let others play through would be helpful. If you have an open hole and people are waiting behind you pull up and let them through! Hit and get to the side or wait at the tee. Courtesy is a major part of this game. Don'rt be a hog! :)
@BawesomeBurf
@BawesomeBurf 3 жыл бұрын
Went golfing for the first time in 15 years yesterday and did this. I was rusty as hell, and there was a twosome behind me on the previous green that were obviously much better than me. After hitting a terrible tee shot, decided to stay behind the tee box and let them play through once they were done with their hole. Worked out better for everybody, since they got to keep up their pace, and I didn't have to feel nervous about people behind me.
@jeffwise1261
@jeffwise1261 5 жыл бұрын
Paige - The future of the game is in programs like "First Tee" and teaching kids. Maybe enticing club Pro's to be more out there in the communities and working on the publicity side would also help.
@mannyvital4390
@mannyvital4390 5 жыл бұрын
First off, you're great! I think course prices need to be cheaper if we want more people to come out and play? It would open golf to a wider range of people. Especially the public courses.
@jamisonwolfer3641
@jamisonwolfer3641 5 жыл бұрын
I think ur one of the best yt golfers and I think u know what you are doing
@cotothedog
@cotothedog 4 жыл бұрын
For price/pace of play golf carts should't cost per rider. I've had many times where golf cart prices get too high making me/friends walk the course which slows play
@jillsabine1814
@jillsabine1814 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree... to expensive and exclusive which keeps people away... cheers Scott
@erichaun4529
@erichaun4529 5 жыл бұрын
Who you play with is huge. I quit the game 20 plus years ago because the guys I always played with who were very laid back and informal had moved or quit the game due to being very busy with new families and everyone I played with after that were so uptight. Most beginners or weekend amateurs get their positive experience from hitting good shots and feeling relaxed. That doesn't happen when they duff a shot off the tee 50 feet on a par 5 and they're made to play it because their partner acts like it's the PGA championship. Now I'm playing again and at 52 if someone's too uptight for me to enjoy my round I don't play with them again. I also play quite a bit in the late evenings by myself when the course is empty and really enjoy that time, no pressure and my pace makes it relaxing and enjoyable as it should be. So, if your just starting the game and you're not having fun, examine whether it's the game or the people you're playing with that just are not fun.
@Professor_X39
@Professor_X39 5 жыл бұрын
I think pace of play is just fine, but I think having 10” or 15” cup days/tourneys would be a very fun addition to the game. 👍🏻
@raybaker8653
@raybaker8653 5 жыл бұрын
If I bring non golfing friends onto the course for a round, I make it as laid back and fun as humanly possible. I'm talking bluetooth speaker in the cart, ready golf, flagstick in, mulligans for days, improved lies. Basically the exact opposite of the traditional, stuck up ways to play golf.
@Mdrnsamurai
@Mdrnsamurai 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Paige, such a great subject but that's so much to unpack all at once. Growth and Rules, need to start with the USGA. Pace of Play is the responsibility of the player. Hit the shots that keep you on the fairway, not the ones that leave you in the woods. Course Attitude reflects Course Leadership. Buy used equipment. Great Video Paige ! Remain Awesome!
@cgmat7804
@cgmat7804 5 жыл бұрын
Some good points, the main changes needed in my view are shorter games for beginners 6-9 holes etc. in order to get used to the rules. Dress code I think a collar is needed for gents, t-shirts are no, its not a rock gig. Slow play, simple things like picking the ball up when you are out of the hole and putting your cart next to the next tee before you putt!!!
@banditbaker1675
@banditbaker1675 5 жыл бұрын
My greatest times in golf was teaching my Sons the game and I am now Blessed to be able to teach my Grandsons & Grandaughters the game as well. My Prescription for how to Grow the game of Golf; More Academy Courses for youngsters, more 9 Hole Courses for Golfers with limited time & Seniors with limited energy. More female friendly Clubs & Courses, fewer Rules and more FUN!
@ekd1985
@ekd1985 5 жыл бұрын
No longer having out of bounds is a good way to speed up pace of play. Red stake the world
@211squirrel
@211squirrel 5 жыл бұрын
Ekd, the new OOB rules allow a drop on the fairway lateral to where the ball is believed to have come to rest! There is a 2 stroke penalty. Most people SHOULD take this option and not risk hitting a second shot OOB!!!
@ekd1985
@ekd1985 5 жыл бұрын
Michael the course have to implement that as a local rule though. Which they should be doing
@211squirrel
@211squirrel 5 жыл бұрын
@@ekd1985 The way our local course introduced it, I thought it was a game-wide ruling. Thanks for pointing out the "local" part!
@LizLaenger
@LizLaenger 5 жыл бұрын
I really care about growing the game especially in my community. I have a challenge because I started about a year ago. I'm definitely obsessed so I feel passion about growing the community especially for ladies and younger aged people. I do have a few ideas about how we could demonstrate in video(s) how to help, encourage, and draw attention to these issues instead of focusing on what we don't want to happen. Reach out to me if you want to discuss. I started bringing my young son with me and once someone yelled at him. It was like the man was waiting to find a way to tell someone off. I apologized to the man because I was teaching my son and I should have dealt with it first. I felt so bad for my son because I didn't want him to get discouraged. There are ways to communicate with out screaming across the course and belittling fellow players. I love what you are doing so KEEP IT UP!!!!!! You will create the change this game needs to live on past our generation.Thank you Paige!
@PaigeSpiranac
@PaigeSpiranac 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and I hope your son stays with it!
@joelmichaeleo
@joelmichaeleo 6 ай бұрын
I really like this "side" of you. I like to get it out, and I like to feel like I have been heard. If these are rants, I can't wait to hear when you go FULL HAM. #Spicy #YouMakeGoodPoints #BetterOUTthanIN
@mcshaft2760
@mcshaft2760 5 жыл бұрын
1 of our local clubs does free golf for kids under 14...I think this is a huge incentive to get out with your kids and get them interested in the game and will lead to more memberships in the future.
@170170jon
@170170jon 5 жыл бұрын
I really hate to say this because I don't like the expensive golf prices but the fact is, when you make things cheap you get cheap people, and cheap people destroy things. Take for instance McDonald's vs a high end restaurant. You don't really see people in high end restaurants screaming at the help and taking swings at the manager and dumping on the floor and what not. I honestly think these courses have a dress code to keep the riff raff out. I actually prefer that myself. Coming from a crazy motocross racer/guitar player here lol
@bobbys4327
@bobbys4327 5 жыл бұрын
you are right on!
@anthonyflores4842
@anthonyflores4842 4 жыл бұрын
I must say golf is my third favorite thing to do in the world number one sex number two is snow skiing a number three is golf which I do more than any other thing in my life. I'm surprised that you're bleeding heart but I guess I shouldn't be You are a spectacular human being inside and out it would appear and moreover you are an excellent coach your videos are wonderful for the high handicapper like me. my opinion golf is now as it always has been and that is that its purity must be preserved those that come to this sport should attempt to excel in it as it stands . Seriously!!! Effe everything else.
@pantha6798
@pantha6798 5 жыл бұрын
Bravo Paige! Very courageous for you to tackle such a tricky topic for some. Treating others the same way you would like to be treated kinda works everywhere, huh. 😉
@randolphroper8997
@randolphroper8997 5 жыл бұрын
Your the best Paige wish you played the tour because you are awesome
@cowboyjwc
@cowboyjwc 5 жыл бұрын
Price. Price of equipment, price to play. I can't really afford a $500 set of clubs or $100 to play a round of golf on a nice course. I already have a cheap set of clubs, but they make it hard for me to keep up
@cowboyjwc
@cowboyjwc 5 жыл бұрын
@Mdmchannel That would be about $45 dollars off of the local courses price, though the local muni course is about $45 to play they tee off ever 5 minutes so you have someone on the green, someone on the fairway and some one on the tees, makes for a really long day. We had a really nice course here that was about $80 but could usually get a deal and they teed off every 15 minutes so it was really nice to play, sometimes you wouldn't even see anyone else the way the course was laid out, but they sold out to land developers and it's soon to be a housing tract.
@robertparker4513
@robertparker4513 5 жыл бұрын
Great Topic Paige. A number of concerns you bring up definitely would help "grow the game" First off is cost It appears you are playing Troon North today and while it is one of the more reasonable 1st class course in the area it still sets you back a pretty penny to play there more than once a month. Secondly it takes too long. I have been out on that course and others like it and with all the tourist traffic you can be out there 5 hours plus travel time, there goes the day. Also if you just want to practice most courses like that charge just to hit balls. Also I maybe wrong but you can not play 9 holes there and at many courses. ( well you can if you pay the 18 hole price!) Playing nine holes and providing an appropriate charge for it would help bring more people out. Anyway you continue to add class to the business and wish you all the best going forward
@ialsafa
@ialsafa 5 жыл бұрын
A few suggestions to make golf accessible. 1. Golf courses can offer discounts on scramble games, so that higher handicap players can band together with a low handicap player and play the best shot every time instead of trying to hit out of the rough etc. I’ve introduced the game to my daughter and friends this way. 2. Golf equipments are outrageously expensive. They need to come down on price, otherwise they will go the way of Nike and other manufacturers. One way to do that is to make clubs that are a few years older to be very affordable straight from manufacturer. 3. Golf balls need to be brought down in distance so that amateurs get an advantage in accuracy instead of distance. It will also help with golf course ownership and running cost. Water shortage is a real problem. 4. Cheaper muni courses do allow people with jeans and tshirts etc. I don’t think that’s an issue. But I like the idea of pay per hole.
@211squirrel
@211squirrel 5 жыл бұрын
1. Very interesting idea, though I doubt that will cut down the time or cost. 2. Golf equipment companies are selling their equipment at the current price, and much research and effort went into arriving at those price points. There are less expensive brands, and there is even the option of making your own clubs (with kits from golfworks, etc..) but you're still going to be purchasing a large set of something that costs money to make. 3. Now you're talking crazy. 4. You're correct here, but I don't think paying per hole is going work well. Most courses require some travel, and I doubt people will travel to the courses to play a single hole.
@gosalgogosalgo1293
@gosalgogosalgo1293 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of great advice Paige ty
@windowken
@windowken 5 жыл бұрын
I would certainly watch more golf if there were a few more like you playing
@G2007A
@G2007A 5 жыл бұрын
I see basically you seem to have favorite clubs, that you hit with. My question is on club mechanic and design, how do you judge of what club to use. if the clubs are already designed for the distance in the factor. what rule do use for picking the number of the club.
@Grunt49
@Grunt49 4 жыл бұрын
Honesty and knowledge.
@Shumps11
@Shumps11 5 жыл бұрын
I just like to play Double Par not sure if it speeds up game but it just helps my flow if that makes sense at all
@jakesavage100
@jakesavage100 5 жыл бұрын
I play early. Love getting around in 3 hrs. Spent the winter in Arizona, no morning dew!
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