I Got A BRUSHLESS RC Car and it's not from China!

Brushless Team Associated 14B Reflex RC Car. I've been after one of these for a while, and it's Crazy! A Brushless 1/14 Scale RC Buggy from Team Associated (14B Reflex). Get the right battery and this thing flies!
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[@TomleyRC]

Once again, I may have 'out humoured' a few people. Let's call it Satire.... I was trying to make a point that nearly everything is made in China (or Taiwan) for the RC Hobby. I just found it funny that nowhere on the box could I see where it was made...apart from the TA Head Quarters address. I'm sure a lot of you knew what I was getting at..and I thought I made it obvious. I might put a disclaimer at the start of my videos haha. Anyway.... carry on....

[@wheelsdownrc6348]

You mean internet trolls DON’T have a since of humor, that’s crazy talk bro! Also THAT’S sarcasm trolls. Now let the hating begin ✌️

[@andiewithanie]

"china or taiwan" so no preference? i know which one id rather live in

[@TortFreak]

@tomley did you notice how much the eachine buggies have gone in price

[@derekhobbs1102]

I thought it was law to state country of manufacture on everything

[@LovineazyandBebe6741]

You gotta check out the Team Association ..MT8...EPIC

[@DustyFingersRC]

the news of Tamiya removing their spanner was on April 1st. That aside, that beatbox edit was dope son! That is a lovely bit of kit you got there. Team Associated is quality!

[@TomleyRC]

Haha.. well they got me with the April Fools 😅

[@rrrccc1571]

As much as I love 1/10 and 1/8 stuff, you can't beat these smaller scale cars that you can just chuck in a small rucksack. Great review!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, so much easier to carry around!

[@kenmtb]

what the dickens is a rucksack?

[@averagevalenjoyer]

@@kenmtb backpack

[@exp2tr10t]

AE is legendary. Love their cars; An old RC10 nitro was the first and only nitro I've driven, and it was still a blast. Well done review! Their MT8 has caught my attention...

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Jacob

[@ravenlorans]

AE? Asshole Eaters??? :D :D :D

[@CommandLineHero]

I waited so long for a quality review of this car. I’m not patient, so I bought an LCRacing instead, but I’m so happy that someone did a proper review for this car. It’s back on my list now.

[@JLary71377]

Team Associated has always been one of the best. Great video on the little "cheapo" car. Definitely not cheapo. 😁 I enjoy your videos

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Jeff… appreciate it

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty impressive little buggy, Tomley! 😃 Great bashing!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate.. appreciate it 👌

[@stuartroberts9993]

I have a 14b & it's a very well balanced rig & tons of fun. Only issue is that parts seem hard outside the US (I'm in Australia) without paying mega prices. That's why WPL are picking up customers in the lower end of the market as upgrades/spares are pennies & the cars are also inexpensive. But the balance of the 14b makes it worthwhile for me.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, some decent cheap cars out there for sure 👌

[@skumbria6666]

That frontflip is crazy 🤘, great video.

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude

[@aaroncasey3591]

Got 2 of these awesome rigs. I have since modded one with a castle mamba micro x and the 8200kv motor. It is bloody fricken nuts and an absolute joy to run in small areas. No one expects to see something that small move so quick.

[@Zachary48]

Would like to see pictures to help with the build mate

[@aaroncasey3591]

@@Zachary48 When I get a chance I'll upload a few pics. Pretty much used deans high temp T plugs so I could use stock Batts and I took a castle sidewinder ESC fan, and installed in sideways behind the motor for a cooling fan. The natural setup allows it to look really clean. Runs cool, around 130 to 145 motor Temps after 20 plus min of running. Using a 11tooth pinion.

[@TheRCScotsman]

What a wee pocket rocket! Fantastic thing. Also, the difference between lipos was crazy... 25 to 32 mph is a 28% increase!

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, crazy isn’t it! I even tried another ZD Racing… and it did the same as the first. Must be the low C rating

[@TheRCScotsman]

@@TomleyRC Yeah, pretty likely. I don't generally go under 25 - 30c.

[@chriswhite2824]

That kid at the end 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 top review Phil 👍🏻👍🏻

[@TomleyRC]

Hahaha 🤣

[@wheelsdownrc6348]

I’ve never run team associated but I’m digging the bomber style paint scheme. I will be using that on my next build thanks for the content 👍

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, looks good doesn’t it 🤟

[@wheelsdownrc6348]

@@TomleyRC yes it does, I have officially decided to that scheme on my next XMAXX body, so thanks for the inspiration and have a happy Easter 🐣

[@michaeldorich4485]

Looks great. As you said, choose a good battery.

[@MauzyrockRC]

Brightened my day! 👍👍👍

[@disciplinerc]

The clipping clip was the best clip 🤣 Great vid mate!

[@andy2more475]

I was wondering if the 15c discharge rate was too low. Can't wait to see the comparison video. Thanks man!

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, I reckon it was 👍

[@brianwolfe2172]

Great little buggy. I really like mine. Rear shock springs need to be replaced though. For whatever reason Associated used the same length springs in the rear that they use in the front even though the rear shocks are longer. The rear shock are preloaded to the max just to level the car out. Use the Associated Factory Team Gold/Yellow springs. Part #21558.

[@bert1913]

Reminds me of my emb-1h. Btw, the emb-1h comes with a metal chassis

[@glitch0156]

I have a belt driven RC18T with a brushless 2/3 S lipo. Thing is a beast. Shame they discontinued it. Saw the new 1/14 scale models & wanted to see hands on. Thanks for the vid.

[@Pete_B95]

Love the old videos of you beatboxing 😂👍

[@TomleyRC]

Haha, after editing the cable tie cutting… I had to add it 👌

[@SPEXWISE]

I enjoyed the little beatbox edits in this one. Had me giggling.

[@TomleyRC]

Haha, cheers 😎

[@Lifeoftravel12]

I race my 14b on carpet its a great little buggy, only issue I have found is the diff seals leak. Against the wl toys there is no comparison, I haven't broken mine yet and the guys who run wl toys at the club are repairing every week.

[@masjuggalo]

It leaks oil you say...sure it's not British 😁

[@arturbernolak3335]

I don get how you can eaven race thease in the same bracket lol

[@marsbase3729]

That front flip was epic mate! That's an awesome little buggy 👍😎👍

[@rcplaytime]

pretty decent fun little buggy😀👍👍

[@philiplibby6360]

Great vid. Deff put the kid in the part 2 comparison vid for another beet box breakdown 😆 love it

[@robmorrissy1566]

One of my favorite RC'S ever It's great to just go run out in the parking lot after work

[@mikeupton5406]

My favorite part of Tomely R/C, Phil getting geeked on a car. And I pay attention, because he's pretty good at figuring out what is a jewel and what is junk.

[@rogueFactor]

oh wow 32mph, very nice. i use my old school 3inch drone batteries from tatu in my 14/16/18 scale cars. HUGE difference. Nicely done!

[@shadow7796]

I put sway bars and a few other goodies on my reflex14b and I gotta say, it's very good for what it is. The optional Factory Team parts are good too. I put a better esc in mine cause I like 3s and the esc don't like it but the motor is fine. The shocks are ok but the F.T. ones are better.

[@TomleyRC]

Sounds awesome! I’ll have to look at the upgrades!

[@flat-out]

I had the Reflex 14B it was great but I gave it to my nephew for him to start on small hobby grade RC buggy. I still have the TA Rival MT10 that you recommended Tomley.

[@EJ-74]

Awesome little buggy. My first proper race truck was a 2wd 1/10 truck T3 Team Associated back in 2000. They make great race RCs. The Rival 10 and 8 seem pretty awesome from the vids I've seen. Cool vid Tomley. 🔥 Can't wait to see a comparison vid with the Banggood special. 🔥👍✌️

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Erric... I'm looking forward to trying the MT8

[@TheGirlox]

U got one of these last week . I killed the motor the second time I used it .and killed 2 spur gears up to now. Just waiting on the parts now. Top vid buddy cheers

[@TomleyRC]

That’s a shame… I’ve run mine twice so far and seems okay. Hopefully won’t be an issue

[@TheGirlox]

I did abuse it

[@TheGirlox]

Would b good to see how it compares to the lc racing

[@2wheelpartsguy]

Soo much enjoy this channel more than the other British guy

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude. It try to make my channel a little different to others 👍

[@CAPRAQUEENRC]

I’ve been using Team Associated cars for 30 years. My experience is that AE doesn’t make actual basher grade cars, they are all race grade designed to handle and perform. I have a 14B and have all the upgrades and it outperforms everything in it’s scale but like I mentioned, when bashing the diffs have given me issues breaking the spider pins and the stock bearings have had issues. So I would highly recommend back up diffs, new quality bearings and if Bashing also I recommend T-Bone racing front and rear bumpers. But although a plastic chassis it’s incredibly durable structurally and is way faster than I expected out of the box. If used for serious racing it’s definitely worth the investment but if just for bashing I would suggest a inexpensive toy/basher grade WLTOYS ❤️

[@TomleyRC]

Some good advice 👌

[@jalee6587]

The mt10 stadium truck is basher grade

[@jnmwtkns]

Right I picked up a lot of about 6 complete and 4 parts 1/18 from Associated chassis from a racers restock and There is even a dual motor mod on one parts chassis that both factory diffs smoked on first run lol. But really they are definitely built for racing rather then bashing . I personally love my belt driven rc18sc novak brushless and it smokes most of my 1/10 factory systems for reliability.

[@xx-----------xx873]

@@jalee6587 It's not a TA design though.

[@dexterbeattie7884]

It’s very nice. Seen one at the local store renently

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I was impressed!

[@Storyracing387]

The 14B video was one of first I watched during my initial KZbin rabbit hole nearly two and half years ago 👍

[@kodak_jack]

This buggy has been around forever, mate. Thanks for the review. I sure hope, for the price, that it's better than the WLyoys one.

[@axe2grind244]

I got a 144010, 2 extra Lipo batteries, a better esc, and a set of street tires/wheels for less than a Reflex combo. It absolutely flies for a 14 scale and I’m really happy with it. That’s just my experience.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, seems decent. I will be doing a side by side when I get the WLtoys

[@kodak_jack]

@@axe2grind244 Did they get it right with the 144010 on the first try? They certainly didn’t with the 124016 and the 124017. It’s like they did no testing before releasing it and got a LOT of negative reviews because of it.

[@axe2grind244]

@@kodak_jack There’s no cogging, everything works and nothing has broke. I guess you can’t ask for more than that with a Wltoys. It’s my first one so I’ve never had bad prior experience with one like many have.

[@kodak_jack]

@@axe2grind244 Range was a problem too.

[@oldeschoolrcukold5141]

Now that does look like fun. I’m not normally impressed with the smaller scale bashers but that does look like fun bud.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, loads of fun

[@NCmountainsYouTubeChannel]

Tuned in can't wait for more! 👌👍

[@andrewtate7827]

Absolutely love mine,tire’s don’t last long. Bought a nice replacement set on Amazon.

[@RickMicallef]

love your vids bro!!! keep it up!!

[@TomleyRC]

Cheer dude

[@FarmerFpv]

We raced these on carpet tracks. Put the swaybar kit on it for carpet racing. They are fast and agile on 1/10 scale carpet tracks.

[@SharkysGarageRCandMore]

Love the "fighter plane" look to this. That battery really makes such a difference

[@Pablo668]

Cool vid. Yeah Associated generally make good gear.

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Pablo

[@NoLimitRC87]

Firstly great video as always 👌 secondly I just bought my first rc boat which came with a 850mah lithium iron 2s battery which I knew wasn't going to be great so I ordered that exact CNHL 2s lipo you had jn this video at the same time I ordered the boat. Anyway cut a long story short the boat was crap with the supplied battery even the servo was really weak so I stuck the CNHL lipo in thinking it would atleast wake it up a little bit but my god did it wake it up I couldn't believe the difference it was literally night and day I was really impressed with them lipos. It was my first time trying the CNHL but I've seen you say good things about them so decided to give them a try and ive found my new lipo supplier id even say there better than the gens ace lipos and cheaper so thanks for sharing buddy I'll put a video up tomorrow if you want to check it out to see the difference its nuts

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, these little CNHL’s are really good! I’ve ran my upgrades Brushless WLToys at about 70mph+ with one of the 3s ones

[@NoLimitRC87]

@@TomleyRC yeah can see there really good lipos will definitely be using these alot more

[@philiplibby6360]

@@NoLimitRC87 subbed

[@ogdizzle155]

Legend says the kid beat boxing was just Phil as a kid haha 🤣😂 on another note this thing looks decent can't wait to see it up against the wltoys brushless

[@TomleyRC]

Haha.. brilliant, but seriously, he’s way better than me 😅

[@ogdizzle155]

@@TomleyRC need to get ya self practicing bud haha 🤣

[@nathancorlett9895]

Love the channel m8 it’s making me want to start the hobby again at 50yrs old ha ha

[@philbrittain]

Along with the mini 8ight and carisma gtb the OG's of the minis

[@axe2grind244]

I was ready to buy one of these but then I saw the Wltoys 144010 for $100 less and it was a no brainer. Cool buggy, not $250 cool however.

[@TomleyRC]

The 144010 looks decent… hopefully I’ll have one soon

[@B.D.B.]

The brushed one has come down in price to less than 70$. Considering it closer to it in terms of performance, 250$ is insanity.

[@carlbudd341]

Fella I just got my hybrid ftx tracer bezgar 6,7 8, combo on 2s lipo full metal all.like you say find the right battery!.got tamiya madbull tottaly sorted got 2 now love your vids.

[@gregganderson5479]

Have had this for some time now... the issue is the bearing on the center diff explodes and mushrooms the plastic piece in the driveline. 1st thing to do is to replace that bearing with something like a ceramic bearing so it can take the heat/ abuse the center diff takes. I hate how the ESC/ remote is set up... there is a massive delay, so I actually put a Traxxas Velineon VXL 3m in it with the Traxxas Velineon 380 motor. I also put in a Traxxas receiver with TSM (gryo) and a Saxov servo. The servo is a strange size so be prepared for some dremmeling. Honestly, it's a lot of work to actually get this car to be fun like the LC Racing or WL Toy's buggies.

[@levispartan1993]

milinakis nostalgia i like very nice!

[@413RC]

This car is so underrated and there are very few videos about them. Unfortunately the issue holding this car back is that all of the gears are plastic, although AE does make metal diffs and input gears for it. Also the motor mount tooth slider is trash

[@oaantonsen3275]

And also the price...

[@kashmurray1199]

I'm not a buggy person but that is a sharp one. Love the paint scheme.

[@speedgears1236]

Thats a great little buggy. I own it also.

[@TomleyRC]

😎

[@WeaponizedExplorer]

I literally explored that sports centre !! It’s not far from me , I’ve taken my kraton exb in that car park a few times

[@YorkshireRC]

I use the CNHL Lipo’s they are really good despite the other reviews involving "thermal event’s"

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, I have loads… they seem decent

[@wordreet]

Team Associated quality is strong in this one! 🖤⚔

[@TomleyRC]

🦾

[@aklimitless9072]

Nice rc

[@finthemanbehindthescreen8520]

Hi tomley love the vids don't listen to the people I love the cheap Chinese rc reviews a

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I enjoy making them as well. 👌

[@giannetto1000]

Please make a video comparison that no one did it between team associated 14 truggy VS lc racing 14 emb-t.. It will be awesome 'cause they look quite the same but one will be better for sure! Thanks in advance and keep up the good work, cheers from Italy

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, good idea 🤘

[@agvline7sensei7rc39]

It great man

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

These are speedy little buggys! Easy on the eyes too! I’ve had one in my Amazon cart for ohhh 4 months now! What was the c rating you had in the first battery vs the 2nd one? Guess it’s time to finally pull the trigger on this one Phill🤪! Thanks for the show and tell my friend! Cheers! ☕️🫖☕️

[@TomleyRC]

25c vs 100c 😅🤟

[@h4rb1ng3r]

@@TomleyRC LOL! No wonder!

[@wwc3180]

Please do a parts comparison with 144001, especially the gearing and transmission and housing.. Nice Vide 👍

[@TomleyRC]

I am planning a comparison soon 🤘

[@W1DO]

@@TomleyRC + LC racing EMB1

[@12rafferty]

banger of a video just felt abit rushed the meme at the end got me😂😂

[@g-radiocontrol3739]

Awesome video

[@mrpigx]

You should build a 1/10 HSP 94118 (KIT/PRO) metal chassis.

[@darkki94]

Looks cool but for 250$ i expect a bit more , maybe 3S capability and full metal drive train , plastic diffs would melt when bashing. The new model from Wltoys is 3S capable and people have clocked it at 100km/h stock on 3S and yes it is the V2 combo 4300KV + 19T pinion and the blue remote.

[@Fantaman900]

Cnhl battaries are nice but first test the golden gxf do very good too. 8 cell big scale takes a pair of 100 euros worth of gxf power. Couldn't the ones at cnhl but I will try them too at some point. 100C is nice!

[@adamwolff9411]

Would like to see this compared to the LC Racing! Looks a good bit of kit.

[@W1DO]

I reckon the LC is better.

[@FarmerFpv]

On the race track. The TA blows it away. They race these on offroad carpet tracks. The LC is very gimmicky. Which ever you get put the sway pars on otherwise they will both traction roll on the carpet track.

[@ironj100]

Team associated is awesome

[@ksrnate]

$245 😳 It does look quality but if you compare it to a Wltoys which is over half the price it's a no brainer really. 144001 in brushed form will go the same speed. Sweet vid 👍🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@aklimitless9072]

Hello from Anchorage Alaska

[@TomleyRC]

Hi 👋

[@knowledgei_godallah]

Good one salute

[@kevinwhite6176]

Have you ever looked at the LC Racing EMB/LC12 series, or their RTR "Tacon" versions? They're the basis for the WLToys 1/12th and 1/14th cars. The LC Racing kits are meant for racing but I have an EMB-T that I built last year out of a brushless 'pro kit' and it's bonkers. It's not really meant to go to the moon and stuff but it's a complete blast - extremely fast and handles amazing and you can tweak everything. Plus, you can either get a Tacon and just run it around, or get an LC Racing kit and build it which puts skin in the game. The only problem with building them is that the diff bits are microscopic.

[@Jeradactile]

About spit out my water when beat box kid showed up ha haaaa

[@TomleyRC]

Hahaha

[@imserious2187]

I still want one of those

[@dirtysoufracing6029]

Chinaline hobby battery are the best Ive ever run punch and top in power

[@vitoguarino7486]

Hahaha nice car… great Video !!

[@nappywavesloko7929]

I bout this yesterday day an I see you just bought it dope

[@filipnordgren5134]

Make a comparison with the lc racing 1:14 as well! About same price but a lot more alloy and better electronics, better bang for your buck in my opinion but could nice to hear your opinion.

[@zachyurkus]

The Andy Milonakis remix and the end there was sick...

[@policopaul7961]

NICE Casio

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude… I have a few and that’s one of my favourites 👌

[@freedom8480]

Thanks for the Sound at the beginning🤬 I ran to check on my charger. Wasn't even plugged in😅

[@TomleyRC]

Haha

[@ethrrr]

I like it :)) They should revive rc18! ...and top gear 4 life :D CHNL , too

[@Andym1159]

Just go’s to show that a decent lipo with a high C-Rating does make a difference 👍

[@rickkremer0525]

So what was the blue buggy you showed us briefly, and do you like it better?

[@masjuggalo]

I hope the wltoys comes with a "big" brushless motor like 550 sized

[@lillagubben2815]

Are you sure about the country of origin? I am actually a fan of Thunder Tiger (CR12), who bought the Team Associated name. But I cannot see anything actually being made in California because of labor costs (and everything seems to cause cancer in California...). Sometimes things are "engineered" in California but made elsewhere. Maybe Malaysia? At any rate, I agree with everyone else that this looks like a quality product!

[@TomleyRC]

It’s most certainly made in China or Taiwan. I just could see anywhere on the box where it said. I was just being funny in the video 👌

[@lyleallyssanashookpuk3636]

Assembled in California I believe😂

[@gabrielpichardo1492]

If tamiya removes the wheel wrench from the kits how will people tighten the wheels ?

[@DESOUSAB]

Commented in another one of your vids that you should review this car... and here we have the review... lol! I've played around with this little bugger (and the inferior WLToys competitors) with various esc's. What is your recommendation for the BEST 1/10th scale esc for these buggies. I've tried the Castle Micro X (smoked it), the HW 10BL60 (smoked it), the HW 10BL120 (in the Reflex now), the Mamba X (in a 144001 with a 1/12th chassis), the Surpass Rocket TS160 V2 PRO (in a 124019). For speed runs, the Mamba X is my best so far having hit 112km/hr in playful speed runs. If only it were silent... Incidentally - I get 58 mph as my top speed with this little guy on 3S and it ALWAYS goes straight as an arrow. Can't quite figure out why it is so steady, while the WLToys buggies need a gyro and even then I regularly smash them up.

[@kenmtb]

Great review.. It is nice to see someone who takes the time to do some testing and analysis. Enough with these silent/music only reviews.

[@009ADVENTURES]

wow, you sure that battery was charged, heck of a difference bud 👍

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, had 2 fully charged, both were the same result!

[@hellofromsoutheastalaskarc7517]

Hello from southeast alaska

[@TomleyRC]

Hi 👋

[@lael1236]

Speed wise It has nothing to do before the 144010 but this one seems to run much smoother tahn the wltoys, I bet It handles better, durability?? Mmm only time will tell but I have seen the 144010 getting punished real good and hang in there, so we will see, and I dont really know how much this one costs but I bet Is around twice as much at the very least

[@kylewright5441]

I have this and the Losi Mini 8ight-T. I like my Mini 8ight-T alot better. Ever since I put the T-Bone bumper on it's been unstoppable..lol..

[@W1DO]

It's a shame more clubs don't race 12th and 14th scale. I think it's what RC racing needs to do if clubs want more members. This vs LC racing emb1 ? I think LC is probably better.

[@hgrc6467]

please can you do a review on the Arma vendetta im not sure whether to buy on or save up for an infraction or a felony. Thanks

[@jakeclauson9863]

So what do you think? 144001 or the reflex? Reflex looks like it's well dialed in. Iv been looking for a buggy in that size range but can't decide!

[@TomleyRC]

The WLtoys over good value for money… so I suppose it’s down to your budget and if you want a named brand or not

[@lurifax7382]

reflex! prolly much better parts in it.(better plastic parts)