I Got CO POISONING In Flight! ☠️

[@flywiththeguys]

Real quick guys! The instructor and I talked about this after the flight and he really couldn’t smell what I was smelling. He caught a small whiff of it when I mentioned it to him, but not enough to alarm him. But, The flight school did a fantastic job at finding and repairing this as soon as it was reported.

[@Mooney201er]

Dan Bass saved my ass. True story. He talked me into getting one of those Sensorcons. Similar situation to yours, solo pick up from maintenance, was getting an alarm even in flight. Went right back. Turned out they didn't adequately tighten the exhaust bolts causing a similar exhaust leak but no smell. Having information about things you can't see is essential. JPI engine analyzer is another beneficial thing like that. Helped me discover a failed mag in flight.

[@flywiththeguys]

I was lucky it was MoGas. Looking back I wish I had done something sooner about it, especially since I could smell it. I talked with the instructor further and the leak was only on my side, so I could have been getting a lot more than he did during the flight.

[@craigrochlis155]

Hi Carl- I had been researching flight schools throughout the US and ended up traveling to Glendale, Arizona to take my flight training at Fly Eagle Sport. I started in March earlier this year and completed my training and checkride in early April. I have nothing but good things to say about the school and their instructors. I could see that you were flying with Dave who also wears a few other hats for the school including manager and maintenance. Everyone there is like a team supporting each other and the students. I consider myself fortunate to have had the pleasure of flying with three other instructors in addition to my primary instructor- this gave me an opportunity to view my learning experience from different perspectives which I consider to be valuable. I agree with your assessment of the quality of the school, and their thoroughness in the upkeep of their equipment (thanks to Dave). It was a great experience , and I think I am the oldest student to have “graduated” from their school. Regards, Craig

[@flywiththeguys]

I totally agree. My training has been nothing but fantastic. Thank you for sharing your experience!

[@timf5534]

I got CO poisoning twice in the last 3 months in an old Cherokee I recently purchased. Both times I was minutes away from passing out. Very scary stuff! Bought me a digital CO detector, fixed the exhaust leaks. Good to go now.

[@DividendeKing]

If you had 2x better to be safe pal. Change the plane. I know many stories where people don’t make it out.

[@flywiththeguys]

Sometimes its hard to chase down a problem so I get it. Fix one leak, didn't realize there was 2. Planes can be finicky sometimes.

[@survivalhealthandhealingtv5651]

SOME AIRCRAFT MAKERS ARE SEALING OFF THE COCKPIT FROM THE ENGINE AND USING ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO HEAT THE CABIN! WE STILL NEED TO BE SAFE AND USE THE CMD'S JUST TO KNOW FOR SURE! AND IF YOU CAN'T THEN MAKE SOME FRESH AIR VENTS AND SECURE ANY CM EX FROM THE ENGINE! GREAT VIDEO AND STORY! YOU JUST MIGHT HAVE SAVED SOME PILOTS!

[@jennscott6858]

I like story time. Especially with break-in video. I enjoy learning from each other this way. Thank you for sharing!

[@dutchygirl]

Great decision making to go for a full stop!! With winter coming up also a great reminder to be aware of.

[@flywiththeguys]

Thank Dutchy! I've been doing a lot of training recently and not been as active on the channel as I want to be.

[@dutchygirl]

@@flywiththeguys You'll catch up! I'm behind on making vids too LOL

[@calvinlivengood5717]

Whether there was was CO present or not you didn't know without the detector, but you should shave pulled a fumes in cabin checklist and landed. Glad you made it safe through the situation!

[@flywiththeguys]

Hindsight is always 20/20. I'm just glad I was able to tell the story.

[@NewYorkPickers]

Love your story and storytelling. Helpful, useful, and informative.

[@flywiththeguys]

Thanks so much!

[@19ij]

Very useful video, thank you. As we say in Russia "Smart guy learn on other people mistakes, not smart guy learning buy his own mistakes."

[@flywiththeguys]

I like that. Thanks for watching!

[@andrewgrischenko]

Great story! One thing though that CO poisoning can happen without any fume smell, so the nose is not a good detector. I need to buy one too.

[@flywiththeguys]

Truth! We were using MoGas, which is why I was smelling something.

[@S-Films]

Great video!! Thanks for the shout out Carl!

[@flywiththeguys]

Thanks Dan! And no problem. Love your stuff.

[@sly_little_wolf]

Thank you for sharing this with us. I would love to see more story time videos!

[@flywiththeguys]

Thanks!

[@user-ey8tc2pr5w]

Thanks for sharing !!! Such an important thing to be aware of

[@flywiththeguys]

It really is. Thanks for watching.

[@justtherightloadofcodswall6515]

Timely video! Been meaning to get a detector but had not done it until now. Went with your suggestion and your code, which is a 20% discount! It’s a product made in the USA too! Thanks for getting this message out, especially as winter flying is around the corner.

[@flywiththeguys]

Thanks for watching and that the code works!

[@paratyshow]

👍☑ Great realy important and informative storytime, just missing the crackling fireplace and the cat in the lap.

[@TheFirstAmendment]

Pshh cat! No sir. A lab or Shepard at your feet is better!

[@paratyshow]

@@TheFirstAmendment I can agree to that but gotta include border collie in the list sir!

[@TheFirstAmendment]

@@paratyshow haha . To each their own.

[@flywiththeguys]

Cat likes my wife better. Same with the dog. LOL

[@dougmccloud3703]

Great video as usual. Love story time. When I did my long solo x-country while still training it almost happened to me. I had the heater on for the 3rd leg on the way back home and I could feel a headache coming on. Turned off the heater and opened some fresh air even though it was 28F in flight and it went away within a couple minutes. Not sure what they found out but u did tell them and I flew that plane since with no issues. And I'll be getting me one of those detectors. Been meaning to for a while

[@flywiththeguys]

Thanks for watching and sharing your story. It's good for others to hear and realize how important this is.

[@garyjoaquin]

Well done video with an important message. I am an aspiring pilot so I don't have any direct experience with flying clubs, but I do have a lot of experience with small groups and organizations. You offered good advice to individual pilots about how important it is for them to purchase their own. I would encourage those same pilots to pool their resources to buy CO sensors and backup sensors for their clubs. Every CO sensor can save a life.

[@flywiththeguys]

So true. Thanks for your comment!

[@rossdax47]

This happens on the ground with safety gear, too. Every time I bring my first aid bag hiking or orienteering courses, I never use it. Forgot it for a single 5 mile hike and guess when it was needed to help fellow hikers who had a fall? Time to improvise and never forget it again. Murphy is relentless. Hear they named a law after him. Double check that safety gear... more important than the second camera mount!

[@flywiththeguys]

Good points! s

[@ginga4845]

Definitely a good call to make a full stop!

[@flywiththeguys]

Agreed.

[@ronbo422]

This is why I want to buy the ForeFlight Sentry. It's stories, just like this, that make me want to pull the trigger. Thanks for sharing.

[@flywiththeguys]

I like the little guy I have purely because of the read out. I can see where it is and the trend, which is more important than something that just alerts you.

[@keithhoward9238]

Amazing video. I purchased a digital CO monitor from Walmart to check for high levels myself. First Alert CO710 Carbon Monoxide Detector with 10-Year Battery and Digital Temperature Display. Has the alert visual and audio.

[@flywiththeguys]

I'm glad that you're being proactive with it and I like that it has a digital read out so you can see the trend! I just want you to be careful. Those are meant for homes and have different alarm thresholds and accuracy. For instance that alarm response time for 70PPM takes 1-4 hours of measuring. If it's 150 PPM it could take anywhere from 10-50 minutes to sound an alarm. At that level and time frame you could already started feeling the effects of CO in the plane. Detectors meant for aviation are more sensitive and have lower thresholds to alert the pilot before diminished abilities. BUT, what you got is still WAY better than those cards that have the dot that changes color. Those take 45 minutes of exposure to change.... By the time they change it can be too late.

[@keithhoward9238]

@@flywiththeguys Mines has a current reading screen to measure the levels of CO gasses. So, for me when I scan my instruments and Co monitor. If I see anything above a 35ppm its landing time for me. From what I saw on KZbin Medical advisory is that 9ppm at low levels can have a long-term impact on your own health. So, if as high as 9ppm. I will open up my Piper Tomahawk small window to flow some fresh air into the cabin. And if I have one headache I will divert to the nearest airport quickly. No playing around here. I like to live and enjoy life more than flying to get somewhere.

[@sal_the_aviator]

Thanks for sharing this. Will definitely keep an eye for a slight headache or that smell. And of course, I'll get that digital carbon monoxide reader. Glad you're okay.

[@flywiththeguys]

I only smelled it because the plane took MoGas. AvGas is hardly noticable. CO detector for sure.

[@sal_the_aviator]

@@flywiththeguys yikes..

[@DividendeKing]

Hey, What a lovely story. Keep it up I’ve always wanted to ask you a question I’m really interested in doing my private pilots license I’m very nervous for my first flight I don’t know if I could get anxiety or feel claustrophobic. what’s your advice for 1st lesson so it’s smooth…

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

Outstanding informative video and life saving video 👍👌😇Cheers 🍻

[@flywiththeguys]

Thanks 👍

[@DividendeKing]

Hello guys big fan from uk. What a lovely story. Keep it up I’ve always wanted to ask you a question I’m really interested in doing my private pilots license I’m very nervous for my first flight I don’t know if I could get anxiety or feel claustrophobic. what’s your advice for 1st lesson so it’s smooth…

[@flywiththeguys]

Just know you have someone there as a backup. If anything goes wrong, they're going to take care of things so have fun! The Claustrophobic thing, yes you're in tight quarters, but it's not as bad as you think and there is plenty of venting in the plane.

[@michaelxin665]

Of course! More stories!

[@flywiththeguys]

I have others to tell. My biggest mistake ever is one of them for sure.

[@cessna177flyer3]

One thing I’ve learned in 32 years of flying in the Air Force, airlines, and GA is that an airplane will often “talk” to you when something is not right. Trust your training, trust your gut, and listen to the plane.

[@flywiththeguys]

I'm getting there myself. After this I was kicking myself for not speaking up and doing something about it sooner.

[@Hedgeflexlfz]

Surprised the instructor didn’t do anything earlier

[@flywiththeguys]

After talking he couldn’t smell it like I did. He did at one moment, but it was brief and faint, which was why it wasn’t much of a concern to him.

[@paratyshow]

I agree 100%, thats the big question in this video.

[@dgriffin60]

Maybe I missed it, didn’t you have a CO detector with you in trainer? If yes, what CO levels was it reading? Or is that something you got afterwards?

[@flywiththeguys]

I didn’t bring mine with me that day. I had it in my hand, but opted to bring something else instead. Next flight I had it though.

[@maritestaylor8458]

Thanks Sir

[@flywiththeguys]

No problem.

[@vracan]

if you suspected some exhaust in cabin, why did you not open the vents or unlatch windows?

[@flywiththeguys]

Vents were open and no windows to unlatch. For me it was a perfect storm of not knowing the airplane and being distracted. I should have been more assertive for sure.

[@Jeffrey-Flys]

Not sure why it took me three months to see this video… but I love the shirt! 😎

[@flywiththeguys]

Hey, thanks! I like it too. Next time I fly I'm going to have the BOM mounted to the wing. =)

[@kitt28]

hi, the 172 that you fly in, do you own it or rent it? if you rent it, do you get in trouble for a CO2 leak? and sorry this happen to you, im glad you are ok!

[@flywiththeguys]

It's part of a club I'm in. When you're in a club or renting the plane it's the owner/operators responsibility for stuff like this. You would only be on the hook for tires or other damage you cause.

[@garypylant3299]

Love story time... :)

[@flywiththeguys]

I need to do this again.

[@watchyourattitudeaviation]

Love that shirt!

[@flywiththeguys]

I wear it often. =)

[@MuscleMarker]

The discount code doesn't seem to be working. Great video though!

[@flywiththeguys]

Thanks for the info! I've reached out to the company for details.

[@Big_Tuna53]

@@flywiththeguys Just used the discount code, worked just fine. Thank you, I enjoyed story time, can I have my snack and juice box now?

[@PARTner91]

It’s important for all to understand that you can easily get carbon monoxide poisoning without ever smelling exhaust. This is why it’s important to always use a CO detector.

[@flywiththeguys]

I had to shoot this twice, said that in the first version. =( We were running MoGas so I could smell something, but AvGas has no smell.

[@neilsingh5311]

The “pro” version says it has”24 hour TWA” but I don’t know what that is. Anyone know?

[@stevek4408]

I suspect it means “Time Weighted Average”.

[@neilsingh5311]

@@stevek4408 You guessed right, as I confirmed on a page on the website. The promo code discount is not too shabby, so thank you Carl for making this suggestion. I've followed it.

[@danieduplooy4406]

If this happens in a Heli you are 100% screwed🔥

[@flywiththeguys]

I've heard this.

[@DividendeKing]

Please can you put up the company that you use for the carbon monoxide poisoning

[@paratyshow]

Don't know about Carl but I use CO2 XXX, they guarantee to "Poison you first time, every time". Sorry Fly by boys but the way you worded your question I couldn't help myself.

[@flywiththeguys]

Added it to the description!

[@zarmril]

Hey there.

[@yoanir]

Please contact me. My son crashed and passed this year. All this cause of the carbon monoxide coming inside the plane. Thanks.

[@flywiththeguys]

I'm sorry to hear that, and for your loss. If you would like to contact us please use our contact from over on our website at www.flywiththeguys.com

[@Roadglide911]

Maybe next time you’ll improve your preflight inspection. Hate to be so blunt but that’s the way it is.

[@flywiththeguys]

Are you saying to take off the cowling as part of the preflight? 😀

[@vracan]

No to be blunt but how the hell can you pre-flight inspect for carbon monoxide?