I Had To Make a HUGE 40mm Thread Tap - Its BIG

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Artisan Makes

Artisan Makes

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@alanmartinez45
@alanmartinez45 Жыл бұрын
A good thing to remember when making the relief cuts. from personal experience using acme taps they always wear out on top of the trailing metal behind the cutting surface, after a few uses it ends up super polished and that seems to make the tap take a lot less torque to move, so for your application it might be worth to polish the taps then sharpen it, you will get a better finish!
@leslieaustin151
@leslieaustin151 Жыл бұрын
Great to see the hacksaw making yet another appearance. Your cuts are a lot straighter than mine. Man! What a project, especially as it’s a project to make a project. Looking forward to seeing that project! Thanks for all your work. Les in UK 🇬🇧
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Years of hacksaw practice has paid off
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 Жыл бұрын
@@artisanmakes - It probably builds on the strength you have gained since your teenage years from doing a similar hand/arm motion 😂😂
@herzogsbuick
@herzogsbuick Жыл бұрын
@@johncoops6897 looooooooool
@robyoung1890
@robyoung1890 Жыл бұрын
I have been, and am still, impressed by your strength and persistence cutting large stock with a hacksaw!! I understand your resource and space restraints but that does not dimmish the effort you expend! Well done sir! Great vid too!
@hersch_tool
@hersch_tool Жыл бұрын
Outstanding work. Your problem solving approach is intelligent, and skillful, and your execution is fearless. You just dive right in. Respect. Side note, your videos are also fan-friggin-tastic. Making vids is harder than it looks and yours are so clear and easy to follow. I am stealing idea... I mean, "taking notes"... 😅
@jorgeaura2890
@jorgeaura2890 Жыл бұрын
I'm dying of curiosity now to see what project you will use these massive taps on. Can't wait.
@Skankhuunt42
@Skankhuunt42 Жыл бұрын
For the cutting of the tread, take 2 fix wrenches to get More power and dont get the power from only one side like on the adjustable wrench. For example two 36 wrenches. Great content!!!
@kyfho47
@kyfho47 Жыл бұрын
What he said. I figured someone would have already beaten me to it.
@leonclose7823
@leonclose7823 Жыл бұрын
Making a set of huge (for the size of your machines), square thread taps, by helical milling, from hot rolled mild steel, then case hardening seems ridiculously ambitious on the face of it. I'm amazed that you have pulled it off. Seriously well done. What is your favourite brand of hacksaw blade?
@dirkv.9013
@dirkv.9013 Жыл бұрын
Same here - MacGyver would be proud. For most of the video, I just kept watching because I wanted to see if the next thing would work. You can increase the carbon content of steel by baking it with charcoal? Wow. A+ for raw cleverness
@Tasarran
@Tasarran Жыл бұрын
@@dirkv.9013 That's OLD school metalworker stuff there
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
I use suttons cobalt blades. Cheers
@Bloodray19
@Bloodray19 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos. Discovered you when I had to be in hospital for 2 weeks in last December, and ended up bingewatching every video you had out at that time
@PatrickHoodDaniel
@PatrickHoodDaniel Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the application of these threads!
@nevermind1O844
@nevermind1O844 Жыл бұрын
Should we start a crowd funding campain to buy this man a band saw?!
@cullenpurkis4593
@cullenpurkis4593 Жыл бұрын
Now that you have moved up to tool-making, maybe it's at least time for a power hacksaw...
@H3xx1st
@H3xx1st Жыл бұрын
When I saw him start that with a hack saw I oof'd, out loud, haha
@andrewlacerenza667
@andrewlacerenza667 Жыл бұрын
I love the way you increased the carbon during the hardening in charcoal packing boxes, I'm a hobby machinist and never did that before
@michaelsimpson9779
@michaelsimpson9779 11 ай бұрын
What an effort. Well done you.
@kdubbya
@kdubbya Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that this guy was willing to tell us about all the problems he had. A lot of people leave all that out and make it seem like child's play 🤣
@alanmartinez45
@alanmartinez45 Жыл бұрын
For easier covering with the borax flux wrap a metallic mesh around the flux! Nice work brother!
@imranmahsud84
@imranmahsud84 6 ай бұрын
Great workout
@Tinman97301
@Tinman97301 Жыл бұрын
So is that a 40mm tap in your pocket... Oh God it is! 👍
@peterspencer6442
@peterspencer6442 Жыл бұрын
"Hide yo kids, hide yo wife"
@masterQ20
@masterQ20 Жыл бұрын
*Thank you for a very good video. Valuable leason learned!* 👍❤😊
@killerbanjo
@killerbanjo Жыл бұрын
I don't know what size you did the square drive, but if it is 1 inch or close to a standard socket drive diameter, buy a single socket, cross drill a hole so you can insert a bar and drive the tap using the square in the socket. Pretty sure that would work?
@slartimus
@slartimus Жыл бұрын
But it'd be a lot funnier to make a comically large tap wrench to go with the comically large taps. :D
@martinswiney2192
@martinswiney2192 Жыл бұрын
Socket and 3/4” drive impact wrench.
@a-k-jun-1
@a-k-jun-1 11 ай бұрын
They commercially make 8 pt sockets for use on square nuts. A lot easier to just pick up a socket of the appropriate size if it is a normal size square.
@martinswiney2192
@martinswiney2192 11 ай бұрын
Correct myself months later after watching him use the taps. 1” drive impact wrench.
@H3rmanHan01
@H3rmanHan01 Жыл бұрын
First time I have seen taps created. This contect was well organized and enjoyable to watch. Many thanks.
@Horus9339
@Horus9339 Жыл бұрын
You are truly tapped mate, the size of those bloody things. Well done, you'll be well screwed once you turn them through steel. Thank you for sharing your time.
@bigmotter001
@bigmotter001 Жыл бұрын
WOW, masterfully done. I learn so much from your videos! Thanks for taking us along and take care!
@themasterisback1
@themasterisback1 Жыл бұрын
Hey there nice vid! A tip from a machinist and engineer: the relief angel you need to improve the tap more is on the taper of the tap. It's hard to explain in a comment but the cutting tooth have no clearance angle right now, because the outer shape was formed on a lathe. You can easily do this on the grinder by hand on the tapered part of the taps. I highly recommend the video from thisoldtony on this topic. Anyhow keep up the good work and have a nice day 🤘🏻
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
I mentioned in the end that I have the intention of doing that but my new set of grinding wheels hasn’t turned up yet
@DanPetrePhotos
@DanPetrePhotos Жыл бұрын
You made it clear you were waiting for wheels and it will be more difficult to grind into hardened steel. I guess from a project management point of view you get the job done faster by shifting work before the wheels arrive at a small cost of having the grinding a bit more difficult. How long did it take to grind relief?
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
It’s usually a fairly quick job but I have yet to get around to it
@xerxespamplemousse6622
@xerxespamplemousse6622 Жыл бұрын
this is why my brother has several editions of "Machinery's Handbook" going back to the first edition. The information comes and goes, and sometimes the old ways are best.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Yeah seems that even though there’s is 2000 plus pages they still have to removed old information
@bow-tiedengineer4453
@bow-tiedengineer4453 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that the book was just straight up "Don't do this. You shouldn't do this. It's a pain in the ass. OK, now here's how you do it."
@neilredelinghuys3263
@neilredelinghuys3263 Жыл бұрын
hi. this is my favourite youtube channel at the moment!
@erniemathews5085
@erniemathews5085 Жыл бұрын
Good ideas, great execution. Thanks for showing us.
@WompWompWoooomp
@WompWompWoooomp Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to that tap wrench video!
@francobuzzetti9424
@francobuzzetti9424 Жыл бұрын
i swear. every time i see a machinist pull up the machinery's handbook i know sh*t just got real
@klausnielsen1537
@klausnielsen1537 Жыл бұрын
Holy smokes! 😮 Cutting edge engineering would be proud of that result on such a small lathe and mill. How you pulled it off is legend! 😊
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
The airbrush coolant dispenser is very creative. Thanks for the interesting project.
@homemadetools
@homemadetools Жыл бұрын
Good work. We love big tools. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
@Hati321
@Hati321 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the machine you're building.
@stevensmart8868
@stevensmart8868 Жыл бұрын
Nice work. I used to tap some inch and a quarter BSW threads through 30mm mild steel plate, for die sets for sheet metal. Anyhow we used a tap wrench that was about 3 feet long and even then it was hard work. And this is 40mm and square. Good job and good luck.
@repairtech9320
@repairtech9320 Жыл бұрын
Great minds think alike. Using an air brush as a mist coolant sprayer. Glad to see it on YT.
@charlvanniekerk8009
@charlvanniekerk8009 Жыл бұрын
Thats honestly pretty nuts. I cant wait to see it in action on whichever project youre using it for. Incredible project, thanks for sharing!
@douglasharley2440
@douglasharley2440 Жыл бұрын
sweet!...can't wait to see what you need those taps for. 🤣🤔
@merc7105
@merc7105 Жыл бұрын
Never seen anyone do this. Amazing. Well done mate. Cheers.
@charliesnyder1608
@charliesnyder1608 Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. please tell me you made these taps for some part for a bandsaw your making to get away from the hack saw?
@timturner7609
@timturner7609 Жыл бұрын
Square threads are actually stronger in applications like pressure vessels because they have no taper which would act as a wedge and rip apart either itself or the mating surface when pressiz3d internally
@HyperactiveNeuron
@HyperactiveNeuron Жыл бұрын
I'm REALLY curious what these taps are for.
@patrickbeck4062
@patrickbeck4062 Жыл бұрын
I would just make the drive end 6 sided, so you can use a proper socket and whatever wrench you want. Most times when I and others I've worked with, use larger taps you end up finding the closest socket and using a 3/4 drive rachet anyway, because tap handles that size are too awkward and bulky to be able to use where you need them on a lot of machines (need too much space to spin the handle). Plus if you do it before cutting the threads it will give the chuck flats to hold onto. You could make 6 sides work with a normal tap handle as well if you change the angle in the holding inserts from 90 degrees to 120 degrees.
@Carrera281
@Carrera281 11 ай бұрын
My respects this is something really outstanding, keep it up!
@TheRecreationalMachinist
@TheRecreationalMachinist Жыл бұрын
Impressive 👍 🇬🇧
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 Жыл бұрын
PLINK!! ... broke the tap off in the workpiece ...unlikely. 😁👍
@CheffBryan
@CheffBryan Жыл бұрын
So you say, but literally this last week the boss broke a 35mm. It makes quite the trophy!
@hampopper3150
@hampopper3150 Жыл бұрын
One of these days you should setup a electronic lead screw for the lathe.
@steved8038
@steved8038 Жыл бұрын
You obviously didn't listen to all the idiots that say you can't make anything worthwhile in a small machine shop, Congratulations for proving them wrong and for all the information and entertainment you provide .Thank you
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Жыл бұрын
Holy smoke, I can’t imagine what you need such big taps for. Very interesting video. Thank you. 👏👏👍😀
@ma-lakshmifabricator7549
@ma-lakshmifabricator7549 Жыл бұрын
Overall, this is a highly informative and enjoyable video for anyone interested in engineering. It showcases your talent and expertise while providing valuable insights and inspiration to fellow enthusiasts. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to watching more of your content in the future 👍👍👍
@DraGma
@DraGma Жыл бұрын
Great work man! It would definitely help a lot with the high cutting force to hit the sides of the teeth in the grooves with a stone or a diamond. They are likely extremely dull after all the machining, rough filing and wire brushing.
@zorbakaput8537
@zorbakaput8537 Жыл бұрын
He did say he was waiting for his cup stone to hone them.
@MASI_forging
@MASI_forging Жыл бұрын
How awesome. That is really good 👍👍
@axa.axa.
@axa.axa. Жыл бұрын
hitting it with the wire wheel after hardening seems counter productive
@greaser5691
@greaser5691 Жыл бұрын
That's an impressive project. Greetings from sunny Adelaide.
@crazynthree
@crazynthree Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the dividing head rebuild 😂😂
@Reducer
@Reducer Жыл бұрын
"That's not a tap. THIS is a tap." -- Crocodile Dundee, probably
@nineoclockhero
@nineoclockhero Жыл бұрын
If you weld a bar to the fixed jaw of the adjustables, makes a quick simple tap wrench. Not very fancy, but I'm assuming you're not going to be 40mm tapping for a living. 😄
@thealicemonster9217
@thealicemonster9217 Жыл бұрын
So you were saying that you hope that it would follow the groves from the previous tap. Something that I do to prevent cross threading when putting in a bolt is I will start by running the bolt backwards until it falls into the threads, this way I know for a fact that the bolt is properly seated before sending the bolt home. This is super helpful to save your projects and bolts and it doesn't take but a second or two.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
It’s more so that fact that the lead angle of the threads changes with these types of taps. It’s ever so slight but there is a change. I was worried that it might try and cut a different helix as a result
@thealicemonster9217
@thealicemonster9217 Жыл бұрын
@@artisanmakes Ooh, okay. That makes a lot of sense. Thank you for clearing that for me 😊 That trick of mine is really helpful tho. 😁 I really liked the video, you do good quality work.
@HoY_82
@HoY_82 Жыл бұрын
Blacksmiths use an adjustable wrench with a bar welded onto the head for twisting steel, something as simple as that could work as a bigger tap wrench unless you have plans to make one of those too
@maciejglinski6564
@maciejglinski6564 Жыл бұрын
tbh the begining with a 1914 machinist handbook with a WHOLE SECTION about why you should NOT do it, immediatelly followed by handsawing commically large pole, immediatelly followed by revelation that you did it 3 times is peak comedy
@babayaga5225
@babayaga5225 Жыл бұрын
With the relief should be easier to cut. Nice job!
@WoodfulProjects
@WoodfulProjects Жыл бұрын
May I ask if the case carbon hardening does harden only the outer layer of the metal or does it add carbon all the way through the metal till the core of it? I’ve always heard that it only hardens few millimeters of the outer layer…
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
The rate it diffuses is fractions of a mm per hour. It’s not a very efficient process but sometimes it’s the easiest depending on availability of materials
@jamesdrake2378
@jamesdrake2378 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that guy with your skills cuts the material with a ordinary hacksaw. Respect on that.
@nuneke0
@nuneke0 Жыл бұрын
Or as Crocodile Dundee would have put it: That's not a tap! This is a tap! 🤣
@KrAvE4KaRnAgE
@KrAvE4KaRnAgE Жыл бұрын
Fantastic job. Would cutting the flutes before the threads help with bit loading/chip removal? Would also prevent the burr on the threads. Not a machinist, just a fan!
@billdoodson4232
@billdoodson4232 Жыл бұрын
You really do have far more patience than I have. Brilliant little project, but jeez, my arm hurts just looking at the worn hacksaw blade. Have to say I have a sense of anticipation to see what the main project is.
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 Жыл бұрын
My arm hurts too and I've got a 4x6" metal bandsaw!
@juliankoenig
@juliankoenig Жыл бұрын
Nice Work!
@colinmcmillan2642
@colinmcmillan2642 Жыл бұрын
Mind. Blown. Amazing job!
@infrabread
@infrabread Жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting just how much chemistry is involved with metalworking. I'm a professional carpenter, so I don't even know what I'm doing here.
@ronwilken5219
@ronwilken5219 Жыл бұрын
@infrabread it's just like woodworking just you're working with petrified wood and modified stones. Some basic principles apply to both occupations.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
It’s not too different to wood selection and grain structure that you have to consider.
@michaeld.coulombesr.583
@michaeld.coulombesr.583 Жыл бұрын
There's no need to go to th 23:00 e trouble of buying a single socket, standard socket sets come with square nut sockets already. DUH. Michael said that, bye for now my friends.
@AnonOmis1000
@AnonOmis1000 Жыл бұрын
Feeling some ToT inspired vibes from your video. I think you got a new subscriber
@whiskeysierra07
@whiskeysierra07 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I was wondering if you have any advice for someone who's still in school but wanting to get into machining. Currently a Year 10, going into Year 11 next year
@hillonwheels8838
@hillonwheels8838 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this would work since I have never done the work you are doing but could you have used a 4mm ball end mill to make the initial cut for the threads then fallow up the final pass with a regular 4mm end mill? You said that the tool puts a lot of end pressure on the bits and it looks like the ball end bits look to be able to handle that load. Love your content and you make it look so easy that I want to get these tools to start making my own stuff instead of having others do it for me.
@seelenschlucht
@seelenschlucht Жыл бұрын
Could 2 adjustable wrenches work better? One sticking out to either side, forming a t-shaped handle?
@robgraybeal8089
@robgraybeal8089 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I liked the video, but I would have purchased a TR40 tap from Aceteel instead of trying to make one though. They cost about $350 US dollars, but that is cheaper than I could make one. I have designed large automated equipment that used large linear drive screws and never had a problem finding large taps or screws. It will be very interesting to find out what this project is. Great video and I truly enjoyed it!
@betaich
@betaich 11 ай бұрын
Prices for stuff like that vary widely depending on where you are in the world. Where I am I would pay as much as you pay for the big one for a way smaller one.
@Stefan_Van_pellicom
@Stefan_Van_pellicom Жыл бұрын
22:35 You can have a square holed spanner lasercut out of 10mm steel sheet, or weld up something from 2 pieces of 10x40 flat bar.
@MathMikeAllen
@MathMikeAllen Жыл бұрын
Hey bud, great content! If you have an adjustable wrench you are willing to sacrifice, a cheap/ excellent alternative to a large tap wrench, is to weld a bar to the adjustable jaw, equal to the length of the handle of the wrench. I carried one with me for field repairs and it did the trick for years. You may be experiencing high side loading on the tap without support on both sides of the centerline of the tap. Hope this helps!
@algordon5843
@algordon5843 Жыл бұрын
Another great video but what are you going to do with that 40mm tap?
@lukyva7955
@lukyva7955 Жыл бұрын
im not really that much into metal works.. but wouldnt a ratchet maybe do the trick as a handle?
@blanix6637
@blanix6637 Жыл бұрын
Holy smokes mate, is that for an oil rig? 🤣 Great work as always. I appreciate your approach "If it works = Success!" Respect.
@arminrichard1836
@arminrichard1836 Жыл бұрын
i think what you could try when forming the flutes and therefore the cutting edge is grinding them with a dremel and small ball grinder in the lathe with only the crosslide. You should get a pretty prestine finish that way.
@ardennielsen3761
@ardennielsen3761 Жыл бұрын
so you made that tap to in the process of replacing a worn carriage on a other larger lath right? could nearly make a sand cast wax model to revise with friction grinding with stone powder and oil, to do the same thing with even older processes.
@thedolphin5428
@thedolphin5428 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, but what screws into it? What matching die exists to make the male piece? Or do you just lathe the mate? What is its actual application?
@battleaxefabandmachine
@battleaxefabandmachine Жыл бұрын
Very nice work
@oliverer3
@oliverer3 Жыл бұрын
Finally, a tap that won't break if I look at it funny!
@bluefalconcatering
@bluefalconcatering Жыл бұрын
Great video 😊
@TalRohan
@TalRohan Жыл бұрын
cracking job that, I have wondered how pig a tap you can safely make and turn by hand, I wonder if you could make a die big enough to do the same thread .. Thanks for sharing
@drewfaulkner2967
@drewfaulkner2967 Жыл бұрын
why didnt you use a machinist jack under the last two taps after the chatter started on the first? or do you need to make a machinist jack (project idea) for the helical mill seteup? (maybe a jack head with a couple bearings to allow part rotation while supported. (ball bearings, bi-diameter wholes, sized for heavy thin springs and ball bearings upper jack head, brass/some self oiling busing material as a top plate, t bolt based screw jack))
@Zarlax
@Zarlax Жыл бұрын
Can you just weld two adjustable wrenches together? Or just a handle on the stationary jaw?
@Der_Arathok
@Der_Arathok Жыл бұрын
Finally a tap that doesn't break. it rather breaks me!
@Lone-Wolf87
@Lone-Wolf87 Жыл бұрын
Well done. 👍👍👍
@toblexson5020
@toblexson5020 Жыл бұрын
They are so impressive taps. Time for a comedically large tap wrench now? (Oh, I said that before you mentioned it. Maybe a ratcheting one?)
@morphix69
@morphix69 Жыл бұрын
is this coolant mist assembly made from an airbrush?
@Beef4Dinner22
@Beef4Dinner22 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned that the helical cutting was using the bottom of the endmill and that was increasing the cutting force. Couldn't you offset the Y axis half the cutter diameter so that the leading edge of the end mill was at the centerline of the part? This would end up with a slightly rounded bottom of the grooves you are cutting, but it would mean the cutting was all done by the sides of the end mill instead of the sides and bottom.
@bscoffeeandwelding7236
@bscoffeeandwelding7236 Жыл бұрын
Thats a big ambitious project for a shed guy well done like many others here single sided handle is no good need a double or possibly multi handle tap wrench with lots of leverage especially for steel looking forward to the next one
@Kmnri
@Kmnri Жыл бұрын
Amazing, I love seeing unusual things being made rather than 9001th vise jaws :D
@monkeyjustice
@monkeyjustice Жыл бұрын
Somebody get this guy a metal bandsaw!
@matiasrodriguez3413
@matiasrodriguez3413 5 ай бұрын
Para asegurarte que el "Thread Tap" quede centrado podés hacerlo en el torno apoyando suavemente el contrapunto. Esto también permite aplicar fuerza con la llave francesa sin preocupaciones, pues no se torcerá.
@tcurdt
@tcurdt Жыл бұрын
The hardening process was particularly interesting. Thanks!
@jasonhull5712
@jasonhull5712 Жыл бұрын
The whole time I was watching you make them taps I was thinking how the heck do you drive or muscle through that large of a tap ! Wheeew, that’s gonna take some grit. Lol 😂 They turned out great looking and left a nice thread though. 👍👍
@strawbs556
@strawbs556 Жыл бұрын
Not to be a bother, but if you're going to use these in steel, it would be much better to have the 5 tap set done. At my work we use a lot of M48 size taps and a Machine is either used to do it, or a meter long tap wrench. That should tell about the force you'll be fighting when getting this done. Anyway, all the best to you. Have a good day.
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