I Had To Make a HUGE 40mm Thread Tap - Its BIG

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Artisan Makes

Artisan Makes

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@alanmartinez45
@alanmartinez45 Жыл бұрын
A good thing to remember when making the relief cuts. from personal experience using acme taps they always wear out on top of the trailing metal behind the cutting surface, after a few uses it ends up super polished and that seems to make the tap take a lot less torque to move, so for your application it might be worth to polish the taps then sharpen it, you will get a better finish!
@francobuzzetti9424
@francobuzzetti9424 Жыл бұрын
i swear. every time i see a machinist pull up the machinery's handbook i know sh*t just got real
@bow-tiedengineer4453
@bow-tiedengineer4453 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that the book was just straight up "Don't do this. You shouldn't do this. It's a pain in the ass. OK, now here's how you do it."
@leslieaustin151
@leslieaustin151 Жыл бұрын
Great to see the hacksaw making yet another appearance. Your cuts are a lot straighter than mine. Man! What a project, especially as it’s a project to make a project. Looking forward to seeing that project! Thanks for all your work. Les in UK 🇬🇧
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Years of hacksaw practice has paid off
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 Жыл бұрын
@@artisanmakes - It probably builds on the strength you have gained since your teenage years from doing a similar hand/arm motion 😂😂
@herzogsbuick
@herzogsbuick Жыл бұрын
@@johncoops6897 looooooooool
@leonclose7823
@leonclose7823 Жыл бұрын
Making a set of huge (for the size of your machines), square thread taps, by helical milling, from hot rolled mild steel, then case hardening seems ridiculously ambitious on the face of it. I'm amazed that you have pulled it off. Seriously well done. What is your favourite brand of hacksaw blade?
@dirkv.9013
@dirkv.9013 Жыл бұрын
Same here - MacGyver would be proud. For most of the video, I just kept watching because I wanted to see if the next thing would work. You can increase the carbon content of steel by baking it with charcoal? Wow. A+ for raw cleverness
@Tasarran
@Tasarran Жыл бұрын
@@dirkv.9013 That's OLD school metalworker stuff there
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes 11 ай бұрын
I use suttons cobalt blades. Cheers
@hersch_tool
@hersch_tool Жыл бұрын
Outstanding work. Your problem solving approach is intelligent, and skillful, and your execution is fearless. You just dive right in. Respect. Side note, your videos are also fan-friggin-tastic. Making vids is harder than it looks and yours are so clear and easy to follow. I am stealing idea... I mean, "taking notes"... 😅
@Skankhuunt42
@Skankhuunt42 Жыл бұрын
For the cutting of the tread, take 2 fix wrenches to get More power and dont get the power from only one side like on the adjustable wrench. For example two 36 wrenches. Great content!!!
@kyfho47
@kyfho47 Жыл бұрын
What he said. I figured someone would have already beaten me to it.
@robyoung1890
@robyoung1890 Жыл бұрын
I have been, and am still, impressed by your strength and persistence cutting large stock with a hacksaw!! I understand your resource and space restraints but that does not dimmish the effort you expend! Well done sir! Great vid too!
@Tinman97301
@Tinman97301 Жыл бұрын
So is that a 40mm tap in your pocket... Oh God it is! 👍
@peterspencer6442
@peterspencer6442 Жыл бұрын
"Hide yo kids, hide yo wife"
@jorgeaura2890
@jorgeaura2890 Жыл бұрын
I'm dying of curiosity now to see what project you will use these massive taps on. Can't wait.
@andrewlacerenza667
@andrewlacerenza667 Жыл бұрын
I love the way you increased the carbon during the hardening in charcoal packing boxes, I'm a hobby machinist and never did that before
@michaelsimpson9779
@michaelsimpson9779 10 ай бұрын
What an effort. Well done you.
@themasterisback1
@themasterisback1 Жыл бұрын
Hey there nice vid! A tip from a machinist and engineer: the relief angel you need to improve the tap more is on the taper of the tap. It's hard to explain in a comment but the cutting tooth have no clearance angle right now, because the outer shape was formed on a lathe. You can easily do this on the grinder by hand on the tapered part of the taps. I highly recommend the video from thisoldtony on this topic. Anyhow keep up the good work and have a nice day 🤘🏻
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
I mentioned in the end that I have the intention of doing that but my new set of grinding wheels hasn’t turned up yet
@DanPetrePhotos
@DanPetrePhotos Жыл бұрын
You made it clear you were waiting for wheels and it will be more difficult to grind into hardened steel. I guess from a project management point of view you get the job done faster by shifting work before the wheels arrive at a small cost of having the grinding a bit more difficult. How long did it take to grind relief?
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
It’s usually a fairly quick job but I have yet to get around to it
@PatrickHoodDaniel
@PatrickHoodDaniel Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the application of these threads!
@cullenpurkis4593
@cullenpurkis4593 Жыл бұрын
Now that you have moved up to tool-making, maybe it's at least time for a power hacksaw...
@H3xx1st
@H3xx1st Жыл бұрын
When I saw him start that with a hack saw I oof'd, out loud, haha
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 Жыл бұрын
PLINK!! ... broke the tap off in the workpiece ...unlikely. 😁👍
@CheffBryan
@CheffBryan Жыл бұрын
So you say, but literally this last week the boss broke a 35mm. It makes quite the trophy!
@repairtech9320
@repairtech9320 Жыл бұрын
Great minds think alike. Using an air brush as a mist coolant sprayer. Glad to see it on YT.
@infrabread
@infrabread Жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting just how much chemistry is involved with metalworking. I'm a professional carpenter, so I don't even know what I'm doing here.
@ronwilken5219
@ronwilken5219 Жыл бұрын
@infrabread it's just like woodworking just you're working with petrified wood and modified stones. Some basic principles apply to both occupations.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
It’s not too different to wood selection and grain structure that you have to consider.
@neilredelinghuys3263
@neilredelinghuys3263 Жыл бұрын
hi. this is my favourite youtube channel at the moment!
@hampopper3150
@hampopper3150 Жыл бұрын
One of these days you should setup a electronic lead screw for the lathe.
@bigmotter001
@bigmotter001 Жыл бұрын
WOW, masterfully done. I learn so much from your videos! Thanks for taking us along and take care!
@jamesdrake2378
@jamesdrake2378 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that guy with your skills cuts the material with a ordinary hacksaw. Respect on that.
@patrickbeck4062
@patrickbeck4062 Жыл бұрын
I would just make the drive end 6 sided, so you can use a proper socket and whatever wrench you want. Most times when I and others I've worked with, use larger taps you end up finding the closest socket and using a 3/4 drive rachet anyway, because tap handles that size are too awkward and bulky to be able to use where you need them on a lot of machines (need too much space to spin the handle). Plus if you do it before cutting the threads it will give the chuck flats to hold onto. You could make 6 sides work with a normal tap handle as well if you change the angle in the holding inserts from 90 degrees to 120 degrees.
@WompWompWoooomp
@WompWompWoooomp Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to that tap wrench video!
@xerxespamplemousse6622
@xerxespamplemousse6622 Жыл бұрын
this is why my brother has several editions of "Machinery's Handbook" going back to the first edition. The information comes and goes, and sometimes the old ways are best.
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
Yeah seems that even though there’s is 2000 plus pages they still have to removed old information
@douglasharley2440
@douglasharley2440 Жыл бұрын
sweet!...can't wait to see what you need those taps for. 🤣🤔
@HoY_82
@HoY_82 Жыл бұрын
Blacksmiths use an adjustable wrench with a bar welded onto the head for twisting steel, something as simple as that could work as a bigger tap wrench unless you have plans to make one of those too
@nineoclockhero
@nineoclockhero Жыл бұрын
If you weld a bar to the fixed jaw of the adjustables, makes a quick simple tap wrench. Not very fancy, but I'm assuming you're not going to be 40mm tapping for a living. 😄
@courier11sec
@courier11sec Жыл бұрын
I know this is silly, but a bit of me dies whenever I see someone scrape a nonstick pan with a metal tool.
@ronwilken5219
@ronwilken5219 Жыл бұрын
As long as his wife doesn't see and he returns them clean to the kitchen cupboard she's none the wiser.
@merc7105
@merc7105 Жыл бұрын
Never seen anyone do this. Amazing. Well done mate. Cheers.
@robgraybeal8089
@robgraybeal8089 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I liked the video, but I would have purchased a TR40 tap from Aceteel instead of trying to make one though. They cost about $350 US dollars, but that is cheaper than I could make one. I have designed large automated equipment that used large linear drive screws and never had a problem finding large taps or screws. It will be very interesting to find out what this project is. Great video and I truly enjoyed it!
@betaich
@betaich 10 ай бұрын
Prices for stuff like that vary widely depending on where you are in the world. Where I am I would pay as much as you pay for the big one for a way smaller one.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
The airbrush coolant dispenser is very creative. Thanks for the interesting project.
@Stefan_Van_pellicom
@Stefan_Van_pellicom Жыл бұрын
22:35 You can have a square holed spanner lasercut out of 10mm steel sheet, or weld up something from 2 pieces of 10x40 flat bar.
@axa.axa.
@axa.axa. Жыл бұрын
hitting it with the wire wheel after hardening seems counter productive
@stevensmart8868
@stevensmart8868 Жыл бұрын
Nice work. I used to tap some inch and a quarter BSW threads through 30mm mild steel plate, for die sets for sheet metal. Anyhow we used a tap wrench that was about 3 feet long and even then it was hard work. And this is 40mm and square. Good job and good luck.
@TheRecreationalMachinist
@TheRecreationalMachinist Жыл бұрын
Impressive 👍 🇬🇧
@monkeyjustice
@monkeyjustice Жыл бұрын
Somebody get this guy a metal bandsaw!
@Der_Arathok
@Der_Arathok Жыл бұрын
Finally a tap that doesn't break. it rather breaks me!
@nuneke0
@nuneke0 Жыл бұрын
Or as Crocodile Dundee would have put it: That's not a tap! This is a tap! 🤣
@oliverer3
@oliverer3 Жыл бұрын
Finally, a tap that won't break if I look at it funny!
@Hati321
@Hati321 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the machine you're building.
@MASI_forging
@MASI_forging Жыл бұрын
How awesome. That is really good 👍👍
@Joe-xq3zu
@Joe-xq3zu Жыл бұрын
I really don't understand why you don't own a bandsaw by now, even a small one would make your life so much easier.
@Jacklsovakia1
@Jacklsovakia1 Жыл бұрын
or a sawzall!
@Bobo-ox7fj
@Bobo-ox7fj Жыл бұрын
or a mitre box 😛
@christofs-a1834
@christofs-a1834 Жыл бұрын
Or two f#cks what anyone else thinks. Oh wait!
@Jacklsovakia1
@Jacklsovakia1 Жыл бұрын
@@christofs-a1834 ha nice one
@babayaga5225
@babayaga5225 Жыл бұрын
With the relief should be easier to cut. Nice job!
@erniemathews5085
@erniemathews5085 Жыл бұрын
Good ideas, great execution. Thanks for showing us.
@AnonOmis1000
@AnonOmis1000 Жыл бұрын
Feeling some ToT inspired vibes from your video. I think you got a new subscriber
@magicponyrides
@magicponyrides Жыл бұрын
Nice job. FYI ammonia takes polymerized oil off very well.
@haitchteeceeeightnineeight5571
@haitchteeceeeightnineeight5571 Жыл бұрын
Damn, son, you could start the local chapter of the Arcane Yet Functional Leadscrew Generation Society. Very nice.
@greaser5691
@greaser5691 Жыл бұрын
That's an impressive project. Greetings from sunny Adelaide.
@juliankoenig
@juliankoenig Жыл бұрын
Nice Work!
@sempertard
@sempertard Жыл бұрын
Name: Artisan Makes Title: Machinist, Alchemist, Magician
@blanix6637
@blanix6637 Жыл бұрын
Holy smokes mate, is that for an oil rig? 🤣 Great work as always. I appreciate your approach "If it works = Success!" Respect.
@arminrichard1836
@arminrichard1836 Жыл бұрын
i think what you could try when forming the flutes and therefore the cutting edge is grinding them with a dremel and small ball grinder in the lathe with only the crosslide. You should get a pretty prestine finish that way.
@battleaxefabandmachine
@battleaxefabandmachine Жыл бұрын
Very nice work
@OhHeyTrevorFlowers
@OhHeyTrevorFlowers Жыл бұрын
Next project: a big ol’ tap wrench
@bluefalconcatering
@bluefalconcatering Жыл бұрын
Great video 😊
@Beef4Dinner22
@Beef4Dinner22 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned that the helical cutting was using the bottom of the endmill and that was increasing the cutting force. Couldn't you offset the Y axis half the cutter diameter so that the leading edge of the end mill was at the centerline of the part? This would end up with a slightly rounded bottom of the grooves you are cutting, but it would mean the cutting was all done by the sides of the end mill instead of the sides and bottom.
@switch2472
@switch2472 Жыл бұрын
It would be trivial to order a proper tapered end mill for the job. 25-55$ for a new one within the first five hits on Google-and you get a standard metric trapezoidal thread when you're done. Most large taps like this will be made as duplex taps-a V-thread tap preceeding the square/acme/trapezoidal thread-and it would be entirely appropriate to mill off the left or right side every other tooth or every third tooth depending on the number of flutes on the tap, and alternate the missing side of the tooth on alternating flutes. This further reduces the cutting forces. So-make a V-thread tap, then relieve your tap alternating left-flank/right flank/full tooth profile.
@nate6386
@nate6386 Жыл бұрын
Next project comically sized tap wrench!
@tcurdt
@tcurdt Жыл бұрын
The hardening process was particularly interesting. Thanks!
@MathMikeAllen
@MathMikeAllen Жыл бұрын
Hey bud, great content! If you have an adjustable wrench you are willing to sacrifice, a cheap/ excellent alternative to a large tap wrench, is to weld a bar to the adjustable jaw, equal to the length of the handle of the wrench. I carried one with me for field repairs and it did the trick for years. You may be experiencing high side loading on the tap without support on both sides of the centerline of the tap. Hope this helps!
@smorris12
@smorris12 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if the terminology has become blurred or they've died out (my books and tools are all ancient), but "slot mills" are the thing for cutting those threads. They have two flutes and an offset centre divot to allow cutting on both edges. Also, they do tailstocks for use with rotary tables (although perhaps your mill bed isn't long enough) which would have helped.
@ObservationofLimits
@ObservationofLimits Жыл бұрын
He should have had his Y axis inwards so the outside edge of his bit was aligned with the center of the rod, rather than center on center.
@jmyyer
@jmyyer Жыл бұрын
Impressed !
@mootan2
@mootan2 Жыл бұрын
nice work
@strawbs556
@strawbs556 Жыл бұрын
Not to be a bother, but if you're going to use these in steel, it would be much better to have the 5 tap set done. At my work we use a lot of M48 size taps and a Machine is either used to do it, or a meter long tap wrench. That should tell about the force you'll be fighting when getting this done. Anyway, all the best to you. Have a good day.
@thomaslindroos1667
@thomaslindroos1667 Жыл бұрын
Adjustable wrench, weld a piece of roundvar opposite to the handle. And then maybe weld the wrench so it wont loosen up on you. Or spend 16 hours making a gigantic tap wrench
@toblexson5020
@toblexson5020 Жыл бұрын
They are so impressive taps. Time for a comedically large tap wrench now? (Oh, I said that before you mentioned it. Maybe a ratcheting one?)
@nikostsatsis9478
@nikostsatsis9478 Жыл бұрын
3:50 I am starting to think this is a fetish😂
@scroungasworkshop4663
@scroungasworkshop4663 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant job.
@Kmnri
@Kmnri Жыл бұрын
Amazing, I love seeing unusual things being made rather than 9001th vise jaws :D
@vibin_psilocybin
@vibin_psilocybin Жыл бұрын
I have a lot to learn
@davidgillies620
@davidgillies620 Жыл бұрын
I hope you get a horizontal bandsaw soon.
@Lone-Wolf87
@Lone-Wolf87 Жыл бұрын
Well done. 👍👍👍
@Dustex1
@Dustex1 Жыл бұрын
Weld on a roundbar to the non moving jaw of the wrench as a second handle
@notabagel
@notabagel Жыл бұрын
awesome video. for future use, you can buy tapered end mills for machining injection molds.
@msmith2961
@msmith2961 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes size really does matter 😁
@JETHO321
@JETHO321 Жыл бұрын
You should cut your flutes so that the cutting edge of the flute is the centerline of the tap. It will have its own back relief.
@Todestelzer
@Todestelzer Жыл бұрын
Hmm I would have tried to mill it with my cnc machine and a slot cutter. But nice work. Never did manufacture and hardening a tool myself. 👍
@MalusBlackDagger
@MalusBlackDagger Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a time to cut when you use a hacksaw on stock. God bless.
@cda32
@cda32 Жыл бұрын
Somebody buy this man a bandsaw already!
@charliesnyder1608
@charliesnyder1608 Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. please tell me you made these taps for some part for a bandsaw your making to get away from the hack saw?
@hillonwheels8838
@hillonwheels8838 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this would work since I have never done the work you are doing but could you have used a 4mm ball end mill to make the initial cut for the threads then fallow up the final pass with a regular 4mm end mill? You said that the tool puts a lot of end pressure on the bits and it looks like the ball end bits look to be able to handle that load. Love your content and you make it look so easy that I want to get these tools to start making my own stuff instead of having others do it for me.
@jpwhre
@jpwhre Жыл бұрын
You really need a Porta-Band (hand held band-saw. I've been watching you hacksaw some stuff, but that bar had to kill you.
@TheDistur
@TheDistur Жыл бұрын
Mmm ice cream. I mean uh nice taps!
@fanucyo4003
@fanucyo4003 Жыл бұрын
U need to get a Mazak lathe quick turn 10 😍🤩
@kyfho47
@kyfho47 Жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to know "WHAT" you plan on using those beasts on.
@seelenschlucht
@seelenschlucht Жыл бұрын
Could 2 adjustable wrenches work better? One sticking out to either side, forming a t-shaped handle?
@elischultes6587
@elischultes6587 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone else hear ToT, Keith Rucker, or Clickspring cry out in agony
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
I’ve spoken to Clickspring before, nice guy
@darthkittyoustheunwise7581
@darthkittyoustheunwise7581 Жыл бұрын
What would you do differently next time if you ever decide to remake these. With what you've learnt, would you say you'd want to as well.
@OtherWorldExplorers
@OtherWorldExplorers Жыл бұрын
You use the same spoon for scooping carbon when you case harden that I use for miso soup. That explains the bizarre taste of my miso soup.... 😊
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
It’s my secret ingredient
@nicolashuffman4312
@nicolashuffman4312 Жыл бұрын
I want to see what project you need such a big tap for.
@ego73
@ego73 Жыл бұрын
Those are freakin 'UGE!
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
YUGE with a Y
@ego73
@ego73 Жыл бұрын
Bloody right! My name's Ian. Yours?@@artisanmakes
@52thephotoshop
@52thephotoshop Жыл бұрын
You really need an electronic lead screw
@Knobiks
@Knobiks Жыл бұрын
weld a rod to the adjustable wrench so you can use both hands and keep it on center
@jimmybaronio479
@jimmybaronio479 Жыл бұрын
I found my horizontal bandsaw locally for $150 it sure beats a hand saw
@stephen271
@stephen271 Ай бұрын
Well done mate great job 👏
@peraz968
@peraz968 Жыл бұрын
Just make some releaf to those taps, and you are ready to go!
@marley589
@marley589 Жыл бұрын
Maybe 8 or more smaller / shallower flutes too, for thinner chips and less stress on the cutting edges. Perhaps use standard ACME threaded rod to make the taps from?
@tornerongkamayvlog1009
@tornerongkamayvlog1009 Жыл бұрын
Like good job
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I just cannot believe the massive difference between this new lathe and the old mini lathe. Yeah, of course it cost a LOT more, however the difference in like night and day!
@artisanmakes
@artisanmakes Жыл бұрын
I do miss the old lathe a bit but I much prefer this
@lukyva7955
@lukyva7955 Жыл бұрын
im not really that much into metal works.. but wouldnt a ratchet maybe do the trick as a handle?
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