I HATE THIS

[@CaelenSawyers]

The targeting of herbs makes it easily the best practically and will allow grimoire to be picked for prayers/spellbooks. Thieving relic sounds like it'd be the most fun though so for those competing I'd expect them to go forager and for randoms having fun I'd expect thieving/agility.

[@Hapahilo619]

Thieving relic is op if you're going priff because infinite enhanced teleport seeds basically means free 99 in crafting and smithing fully afk. Otherwise it does feel like bait, even with vyres blood fury is mediocre in leagues.

[@CaelenSawyers]

@@Hapahilo619 farming echo hunllef will very likely also be superb for shards from buffed rates and no prep

[@latinajoseph]

I think herb is secret op. It fills with herb you dont have so you can target rannar, huasca if varly, snapdragon. If you have alchemist goggles, 1 secondary supplies infinite pots.

[@flamingosalad3541]

I'm thinking Thieving with Overgrown relic, pickpocket master farmer and store them all in your leperchaun hat/vault and then reap all benefits of farming while doing anything else in the game.

[@latinajoseph]

@@flamingosalad3541 i think it really depends if you are skipping grimoire, which i cant with no desert.

[@pacoisatoco]

​@@latinajosephdo you really need ancients though?

[@latinajoseph]

@pacoisatoco i am planning on going melee so piety is a little icing. Have colo and inferno to look forward to so the extra healing from ancients would be nice. Im not set on grimoire because i have cox to get the other prayers but something really good would have to go up against it. Farming relic isnt it for my path personally

[@bl4ck0wn4ge]

@@flamingosalad3541 Exactly what I'm doing

[@pm-5565]

Herb if you don't have any good option or are dead set on Grimoire. Agil seems the most underwhelming or least impactful. Thieving relic has been confirmed to work with underwater thieving making it ~2.2m agil xp/h without flippers and about 5-6m for the lucky Asgarnians. I think with our FMT pick the best option outside of this would be Seppu at around 1.44-1.56m xp/h at 92 so it could make thieving the superior pick in terms of versatility. But easy fast herbs... farming will suck if Grimoire on top of only having 4 patches to manually farm.

[@fleeper20]

This right here is what makes thieving the strongest imo, combined with Overgrown, you solve farming, herblore, agility, and thieving, meaning u only lose out on not having the prayers/spells, and secondaries which depending on ur regions shouldnt be too hard

[@Obsolete386]

the herbs you get from gathering are really frequent. Something like 600 an hour

[@IWaGz]

@@pabloortiz5621 bruh your math aint mathing 5.5 second cooldown is not 55 per hour its 650 an hour

[@raymoo8504]

The agility relic is so bad it's literally worse than rs3 silverhawk boots Meanwhile the other two are direct upgrades of their rs3 counterparts

[@bufo1034]

next League should be "OS"RS elitists try rs3, i'd hella watch that

[@gustavsjokvist2668]

Feels like he doesn't know about the target farming of herbs

[@rws531]

Did you after three minutes just watching this video? No. A lot of info on the relic, like # of herbs stored, speed of getting herbs, and selectivity of them was not part of the video.

[@Vuykz]

@@rws531heard it was 9t between herbs

[@jake9107]

@@rws531its all on the news post from yesterday what are you talking about?

[@andrewkarasek3219]

@@jake9107 They clarified a lot of small things in discord that make the herb one REALLY good.

[@CommunityPKChan]

They said last recall vs bankers note was bad no, trickster vs trickster broke my soul.

[@sharpshot77]

Had the same reaction of needing every relic in this tier

[@randomness5435]

While herb relic solves herblore, Farming will still be a pain. I might skip grimoire and take overgrown to solve both farming and herblore, and use the thieving relic on farmers to get seeds.

[@bluexh512]

bruh, 3 mahogany farming patches and 4 if you have Varlamore, thats stupid xp doing nothing

[@CaelenSawyers]

@@bluexh512 yeah, you'll only need to do trees for like 2 weeks (if even) to get 99. Target farming only useful herbs will be immensely more powerful than passive farming since tree runs are only a tad slower.

[@marshallc6215]

The herblore relic 100% solves herblore and pushes total recall further down the tier list because stat potions will be easy to target farm and maintain

[@thememelord6911]

I keep seeing people in your chat say this goes hard at HAM. It does not. The broken swords, armors, buttons etc don't note when you pickpocket them (wasn't the case last leagues) and you fill up your inventory every 1-2 pickpockets with this relic. Not afk at all and not what they're expecting it to be lol

[@randomness5435]

Even if its not AFK the rate at which you get cluse actively will be insane

[@SikGamer70]

it's moreso for the clue scrolls than anything else, if you care enough to shift drop all the junk it's cracked for early easy clues

[@thememelord6911]

@@SikGamer70 yea, but not that much quicker than last leagues. You had all the easy clues needed within an hour anyway. If you really want to make this relic good for clues, go Kandarin. You can afk thief all the other tiers there. Just kidding, Kandarin sucks and no one cares about clues, they are free in leagues anyway

[@0Clewi0]

I thought it was going hard there if it was all the rolls and not lootxNPCs in area as you could've gotten an easy clue at almost every pickpocket

[@Iog0ut]

As a wildy/morry/asgarnia picker I just feel like I’d rather not farm endless spider bosses to sustain my potions. Plus I can 0 prayer vyres once I get my melee tiers higher, and even before that I can 0 pray them with guthans reliably

[@Tovenaar]

I have roughly the same game plan and I feel this first response so much!

[@ginley2]

I've been thinking about coming back to RS for some time. Played off and on for years. I think is a positive change, but it comes with some consequences, as does anything.

[@shaunslays2151]

The thieving relic giving more agility xp than the agility relic is just wild though

[@thememelord6911]

how's that sir

[@ImpulseFXx]

What how?

[@gregimige]

how?

[@SikGamer70]

The herblore relic gives smithing xp too if we're just making shit up edit: turns out it's real, underwater thieving is cracked with the thieving relic, confirmed by mod Husky

[@cosmifall]

The hell are you talking about

[@pizza70123]

I love this. Give me all them herbs

[@uplu7190]

rouges chest go brrr

[@brewch4282]

I’m going the same regions as Boaty being TMF, I’m going Overgrown so I can go thieving, I don’t need piety for an 8% damage increase to save ~3s on a boss but will save a shit ton of time from the farming relic and then I can choose thieving which is broken in these relics. 50m crafting and smithing banked easily

[@McMTG]

jinx you owe me a boata

[@KGAGamer]

Can you believe some people said the Forager relic was the WORST and agility was the BEST? Some people are seriously on copium lmao. Im still torn between herb and thieving, targeting herbs is great, 9 tick cd per herb, but thieving AND agility put together now? Yeah hard choice

[@jarjarlol]

Do seeds grow faster in leagues?

[@kaikash]

Only with the farming relic they showed us. 4x with that

[@bswogger]

Think the reveal today said 5x for everyone passively

[@kaikash]

@@bswogger you're right. I posted this before the reveal. Pretty awesome

[@kenshin1368]

Imo thieving is only good if you need something to afk (agility can also be afk) or if you need something from a stall/chest. Stealing from Tzhaar could be good with ice gloves (F or A) and is definitely good in T and K. It seems kinda bad though if people can just crash you at the stall. Thieving is easily one of fastest skill in the game and early money shouldn't be an issue for most people especially if they have a gem shop or the mining relic. Blood shards aren't that great imo especially if you're going F like everyone else. Agility is good especially if you have lap count tasks but the fact that it doesn't prevent failure during courses seems pretty lackluster. It's definitely the most time saved going for max/50m tho Herb definitely seems like the best especially if you want to do the herb minigame pretty early. A decent amount of bosses/raids shit out herbs and secondaries but secondaries are still hard to come by for most of the game. But you might be getting so many purples you might not get many supplies and it's good for inventory management.

[@NyanCatMatt]

the herb one is probably the best, lets be honest. but i cannot be fucked to click a guy 100000000 times over and over to get my thieving up in leagues. i'll just run laps or brimhaven for agility, and spend my agility tickets for snapdragons for herb training. lol jk i'll kill bosses for herbs

[@Nordkrafts]

easy bash, the thieving relic was the best last time, it'll be the best this time.

[@jayswizzy7510]

Lmao I hate it too boater

[@homologousprime8888]

I was really hoping to pick a Trickster like relic this League, but for someone who is planning on taking Arcane Grimoire, Friendly Forager is a must have.

[@Alkaklet]

arcane grimoire unlocking prayers that only give you a 1-10 tick faster kill speed on monsters won't be worth it. Take my advice and skip arcane grim and take auto farm. then youll be able to pick between agility relic and theiving. up to you at that point. If you dont believe me, check the dps calcs. change eagle eye/ mystic might to rigour/augory and your dps will increase by like... 3%. Not worth it.

[@latinajoseph]

@@Alkaklet ancients? lunars? the ability to spellbook swap. not just "1-10 tick faster kill speed" lmao

[@all_thescience]

@@latinajoseph fr grimoire gives you access to barrage slayer without taking Desert. The utility of it is nuts

[@LimeFish-z4r]

Dibs

[@orphscookie8047]

herb > theiving > Agility

[@sadge5097]

To me the foraging one is a no brainer but I'm going wildly so I have a good theiving and agility method

[@MrAzeaza]

they should make a leagues that gives you the opportunity to unlock everything. i literally quit previous leagues once i got my final relic.

[@viguro719]

leagues 3 let you unlock everything and it was shit

[@elunedssong8909]

@@viguro719 Disagree it was the best one.

[@milklesstea6091]

@@elunedssong8909 disagree all you want you'll still be wrong

[@midianet2]

Shattered leagues was offcially the worst one, why do you think they went back to Trailblazer like league for the Last one and even this one?

[@TheVenhammer]

@@elunedssong8909nah, it made decision making have zero impact, every account ended up exactly the same, no actual strategizing, its way better the way it is now