I Hate Your Deck #25 Kyle Hill v IHYD Patron Zach || Commander Gameplay mtg

[@avatarofpapermagic]

Hey Lynch, as a father I love how you asked Zach at 15min if he is having fun. That's why I'm so keen to one day play with you, great players care about how their opponents are going and you always do that. Never change legend

[@michaeldlynch]

It’s important we are having fun. It is a game right? It’s all about fun.

[@avatarofpapermagic]

@@michaeldlynch a game and a way of life 🍻

[@batsumoto]

I always ask the same after I put down my Winter Orb.

[@IHateYourDeck]

@@batsumoto You are a monster lol.

[@batsumoto]

@@IHateYourDeck My friends know this. I'm practically a full time archenemy. 🤣

[@fakename3168]

This week on IHYD Kyle has to remind himself multiple times that attacking a child is illegal

[@SovereignwindVODs]

Attacking anyone is illegal. People just care more when it's a child. If he leapt over the table at Lynch it'd just be quality content

[@antonius1788]

he considered yeeting the child LUL

[@flanbeau]

While Lynch reminded everyone it's OK as long as you use a technicality to justify it. "Technically I was true to my words, I didnt attack you THAT turn."

[@groundpork5435]

That whole "counter spelling the duel caster mage" stack was so confusing the way Kyle did it made perfect sense

[@SovereignwindVODs]

@@groundpork5435 yea, the way kyle initially did it made sense and would have netted him infinite mana. The problem was that he moved too fast. If he'd slowed down and checked for responses between spells they probably would have let the dual caster resolve and then it would have been too late to interact because he would be getting copies of the follow up spells.

[@captainfry9776]

" And you're going to lose again." Zach is out here casting Murder before the game even begins.

[@JStack]

If Zach’s parents are reading this: It seems you’ve raised a very polite, educated, aware, and well spoken child. Genuinely warms my heart to see good kids having a good time

[@2099arashiko]

must have missed the GD line. lol

[@Crappuccino12]

An awesome young man and his goddamn burnished hart. Jk Jk Zach actually seems like he'd be awesome to have in a commander game. And would probably beat my ass

[@PraetorGix]

It also seems like dad is paying the patreon sub but the kid is having all the fun.

[@classybogan-n4b]

@@2099arashiko Gees your delicate if that's what you're picking at.

[@iskabin]

And smart AF, me at 12 was eating sand or somethin

[@IHateYourDeck]

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[@tablekunsbrother6040]

What about Joe?

[@b2e297]

@@tablekunsbrother6040 they made an agreed upon statement explaining on Twitter. Joe has a new channel called Tabletop Jocks that seems to do mixed nerd content, but is starting with D&D. Excited to see them both keep succeeding as a fan

[@shanedubbs4830]

You guys took KZbin by storm with your first season. I just want to thank you for all the great content you have created. Keep on with the great content in season 2.

[@sanchezsebastian7]

You are amazing! Thanks for doing what you do. You make games feel real

[@IHateYourDeck]

@@shanedubbs4830 Season 2 will keep it going strong!

[@shypenguin9766]

As somebody who started playing magic when she was 8 years old, this reminds me of the tables that would invite me to play with them when they realized that I didn’t know anybody in the LGS. This warms my heart. Thank you Joe and Lynch.

[@thejesteramongfools]

I too started playing magic at 8 and D&D at 10 with all my nerd friends. But yes I can share in the nostalgia that is my younger days of my magic.

[@mrj3711]

Without getting the younger generation involved the game dies.

[@dontstealmydiamondsv3156]

Reminds me of how my sister would kick ass in prereleases at 14 or so (meanwhile my decks had no apparent win condition and atrocious mana curve haha). Good times

[@pan2990]

Chris Hemsworth's body double, but just for the scenes where he gets punched.

[@RaunienTheFirst]

"I just want to stick my commander once!" Zach, if there's one thing I've learned it's that if a deck relies on having its commander out, you do not let it have its commander out.

[@Oneofthemisfits93]

Yo little dudes knowledge is solid. Super cool wholesome shit. Love that this show can hit both spectrums. Wild with the prof/posty to content like this. 👍

[@IHateYourDeck]

Appreciate that. I loved having Zach on.

[@unwucht1529]

exactly my thoughts. Great to see IHYD grow and develop in exactly the direction you are taking RN.

[@IHateYourDeck]

@@unwucht1529 Oh yeah, we'll bring him back.

[@coolzog]

Decent for a 12 year old (better than mine was for sure), however the nonsense with countering the dualcaster mage after it had already resolved and ghostly flicker was played and explained seemed a bit unfair to Kyle Hill and I feel the only allowed it because he's a kid.

[@Skrotislol]

@@coolzog To be fair they've used take-backsies counters for more egregious things than that.

[@friyazDO]

the duality of "Are you having fun?" (14:50) and "I don't trust you as far as i can throw you... and I can throw you pretty far" (12:42) is completely the reason I love this channel! keep it up, hope to play with yall one day!

[@IHateYourDeck]

Variety is important in nature and our show.

[@mees8711]

I believe Kyle did it right. 2 ghostly flickers would blink the dualcaster mage (which was resolved and already on the battlefield, without having copied anything) and a land with the first copy. Then the etb of the dualcaster would copy the ghostly flicker still on the stack, going infinite. He could then have chosen not to cast the ghostly flicker at all. However I choose to believe he went along with the table for sake of simplicity and nicity.

[@jayvigg]

Agreed. He was trying to say dual caster already resolved. He didn’t cast flicker with dual caster on the stack, he let the original dual caster etb fizzle and he was going for the flicker to get the etb again, so he would’ve had flicker in hand and 3 open mana. Still great game!!

[@venomclay]

I'm surprised the off screen assumed judge was getting this wrong. The Mage just needed to be on the field already (original cast trigger is irrelevant), get flickered, and still see a flicker on the stack. The copy resolves and flickers it, so the Mage comes in and sees the original Flicker, which it copies (going infinite). The original target of the original flicker is no longer there, so the spell would normally fizzle, but it never gets a chance to try and resolve.

[@valentinpoblete1940]

Ur right

[@kukivave]

@@venomclay I believe technically, it would also work if he flashed in dual caster in response to ghostly flicker, in which case he actually doesnt have to care about the Krark triggers.... the ghostly flicker cast, triggers the two Krark triggers, in response to the second krark trigger going on the stack, he casts dual caster.... dual caster copies the original spell on ETB.... as it's an ETB dual caster is on the battle field so is a legal target to target with the copy.... the original and the krark triggers never need to resolve.

[@cwest1337]

this triggered me beyond belief it was blatantly clear to me what the intention was. Dualcaster was resolved flicker was cast at sorcery speed and had the copies successfully happened it would have worked as stated however. If he just counters the ghostly flicker being targeted by the dualcaster then it ends the loop anyways.

[@maxleveladventures]

Zach is so smart, funny, and charming. What a great little human! At 12, he already knows how to play the game better than most adults I play with-including myself 😂

[@Nobdythere]

Zach's hand motions remind me of the way pro players constantly shuffle their hands. Future champ in the making there.

[@NVEmery]

100%. Sharp draw, hand shuffling, the way he mills. He's damn mature for his age and it's refreshing seeing such a young person be so articulate with this game and it's difficult rulesets.

[@blakemcconnell6213]

This channel never fails to be phenomenal! Zach was incredible! His little curse slip was hilarious. He IS and WILL be a powerhouse for years to come.

[@tylermorrison1595]

"Children, they're the future" had me rolling. Kyle's dryness is amazing

[@BornFromEmbers]

This kid understands the game pretty well actually. Everyone in my group is like 22 or older and some of the friends we started teaching to play still don’t fully grasp it. Seeing a 12 year old ball out makes me wonder if we are bad teachers or if my friends are just really dumb.🤣

[@marciamakesmusic]

It's typically easier for kids to learn new things. It's why you rarely see prodigies who only develop their abilities in their 20s, most start when they're like 3.

[@ryanburris8590]

My God, that needs to be made to a meme template asap because I was dying. " Youuuu simple bitch" , I love you Goodwill brand Hemsworth.

[@robertp.1746]

Zach's got skills. He understands board states and the stack better than most adults I play with 🤣. Looking forward to seeing if you got any new brews coming up for us in the next season! I like to play really well optimized and tuned decks so I get inspired by the decks you guys put together.

[@Keratzis]

unless the spell he wants to counter, has already resolved and wants to go back and put it on the stack. causing issues with Kyle

[@robertp.1746]

Lol like I said, he understands the stack better than most adults I know. I've met people playing for 10 plus years that still don't understand first in, last out, leads to some interesting rules conversations!

[@Keratzis]

@@robertp.1746 unfortunately it was missed that Dualcaster had resolved. The stack can get very confusing fast, so it’s always good to roll back to the start of the stack put the cards in that stack and then flip them over and resolve them that way, so it’s very visual for players who do better with a visual aid for learning

[@Gizmachi]

It wasn't missed dual caster resolved just that there was a combo with him already on the field. He didn't counter it because he didn't know flicker was going to combo. Then went back so he could stop a combo he missed.

[@Keratzis]

@@Gizmachi and at that point it was too late to counter DCM he would have needed to counter all 3 copies of Flicker on the stack

[@aldennis123]

Zach is legit. He needs to be on more episodes. Total joy watching him and all of your reactions interacting with his good plays and call outs 😂 GG

[@razielthedamn4301]

Also Kayle: Stop resolving all Krark triggers before copies of a spell. You dont know how many copies you get before you choose targets and resolving them. You flip once, if you win and get a copy, you must choose targets for it first, resolve it. Then resolve trigger and flip for second, if you get a copy choose targets, resolve it then flip for third etc. You dont know how many copies you get before choosing targets for them. Resolving only one at a time and spell resolves before another copy is created. And original spell needs targets too.

[@tsukikofudo3838]

"I''ll play a god damned burnished heart"" Relatable. Very relatable. I have had games where I play ten ramp spells and make every land drop 7 turns running and than die.

[@M3WT-va]

This kid's got such a natural charisma about him and the skills to be a real threat even with a budget deck. When is he playing with Posty and Prof? Game Knights, get a hold of this kid. He's awesome.

[@shawnblanton8867]

Yes this would be hella fun matches!!

[@jamesharless6103]

You can defiently tell lynch is a good father figure role model

[@maxmage980]

Kyle's concerned con"science" is so funny to me after the omniscience.

[@MrPhilGee]

Man, the nostalgia seeing Zach in this episode is surreal.. I started playing Magic around 6 years old back in the Odyssey cycle days. Playing at such a young age, it can be daunting to hold your own for more than a few reasons. Especially in a multiplayer game with older players who have more value in their decks, & just have more time in the game than you do. BUT, nonetheless you see Zach doing some real things man! He's not letting himself get bullied, he's talking enough trash to show he isn't scared or shy, he's doing smart moves (politically & mechanically), he's garnering genuine respect at the table by being himself; it's so freaking awesome to see that. He's building serious skills because he has to work harder in game. It just brings me back to my own time of learning all these things in Magic: the levels, nuances, in all aspects of the games. I literally grew up playing MtG & you can see that with Zach. It's inspiring & fun to watch - so cool to see the next generation of players. One of the many beauties of Magic is the age-barrier doesn't exist because of the game & that a kid can have as much sway in said game as an adult; everyone is equal. That is truly showcased in this episode & that's why its one of the best episodes for me... thank you : )

[@tomikvrona1681]

33:52 The card cast with flashback gets exiled any time it leaves the stack, no matter why it left the stack. 702.34a. Flashback appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player's graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. "Flashback [cost]" means "You may cast this card from your graveyard if the resulting spell is an instant or sorcery spell by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost" and "If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack." Casting a spell using its flashback ability follows the rules for paying alternative costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f-h.

[@awdawdawdawdawdawful]

I'm a fellow krarkashima player and this is correct which is why we rub finale of promise and or mission briefing instead :)

[@DeadBodyMan]

My kids are about this young man’s age. Great to see more young players to keep the game alive and not become a luxury game for old men. Also, he played very confidently and well. Also Also…. ARe wE eVeR gOnNa sEE wHoLesOmE sTaX LanD dEsTruCtIOn??! Edit: Zach knows how Phase works. Mad props!

[@lightningstar-ng9tm]

considering Joe is leaving… we might never see it :(

[@Fr3akingNINJA]

This kids a stud lol, he's got a deeper understanding of the game than half the adults I've played with

[@brendonrichey]

This was a fantastic episode. Zach is a savage, I love it.

[@techoutsider5631]

He was playing an awful lot of Burn for Dimir.

[@famousstranger8468]

You need to bring zach back to play merfolk vs merfolk with the prof! Not only would that be amazing for us to see but I imagine little Zachory's mind will be blown

[@benbarclay4239]

Haha idk tho I don't think I've ever seen one of prof's decks actually do anything on any youtube show. Probly Prof who's mind would get blown lol

[@kylefleming7680]

@@benbarclay4239 lmao, poor prof. Someday his decks will go off and maybe he will get some respect

[@Ray_XII]

@@benbarclay4239 The solution: everyone plays one of prof's decks!

[@IceMetalPunk]

"You know Notorious BIG, right?" Lynch, Biggie died 12 years before the kid was even born. Face it, man, we're all old and Zach should get off our lawns 😂

[@ajaydassani9931]

The combination of Zach and kyle was great.. very entertaining

[@tomikvrona1681]

58:25 When you flashback a spell, it gets exiled any time it would leave the stack. You wouldn't put it in your hand for getting tails with Krark. 702.34a. Flashback appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player's graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. "Flashback [cost]" means "You may cast this card from your graveyard if the resulting spell is an instant or sorcery spell by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost" and "If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack." Casting a spell using its flashback ability follows the rules for paying alternative costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f-h.

[@jeffryjones4695]

Just wanted to point out that lynch had a propaganda out and joe didn’t pay for it when he attacked at 37mins in haha

[@cantstopmygo420]

lol good guy Kyle not casting pyretic ritual over and over into a million bolts

[@uwutioussterling3576]

Ikr, I loved how you can tell he knew he could win, but kept himself from it in order to not bore zack or make him feel like his counterspell was pointless ... Eitherway, good guy Kyle all the way.

[@zavano92]

Ritual should be exiled. With flashback spells they are exiled and can not go anywhere else

[@Robvides]

@@zavano92 one failed coin flip puts it back in his hand instead. only heads up copies will resolve. krark and clones has that built in protection/consistency/resiliency whatever you want to describe it as. only all heads would exile the original on flashback. so with ritual. its almost always mana positive, and goes back to hand. unless he hits all tails, then he loses mana. which is statistically not probable. increasingly so with more krarks.

[@zavano92]

@@Robvides this is incorrect. A card cast with flashback will be exiled no matter what. I can look up specific rules for it but it is a fundamental part of flashback

[@Robvides]

@@zavano92 you're right. my bad.

[@angiepurse]

Do you ever start watching a game and instantly think: this kid is going to kick their collective asses? I'm all of 5 minutes in and am convinced. Don't care who wins: Zach won.

[@michaeldlynch]

Oh yeah. Just the way he handles cards. He won. I’ll invite him back for sure. He’s got more tricks.

[@IHateYourDeck]

Zach is great right!

[@laoxep]

@@IHateYourDeck Perhaps give him Joe¨s deck/s so that Joe still participates in your content?

[@Siridakis]

"Flashback [cost]" means "You may cast this card from your graveyard by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost" and "If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack." I know it didn't matter in this match but a spell cast with flashback can't return to it's owner's hand because it is exiled after it leaves the stack instead of going anywhere else (not just if it resolves). So Kyle wouldn't be able to keep trying to make a lot of red mana over and over. (but as I said, he only did it once and got 1 net mana so it didn't matter) Now I must say this was one of my favorite episodes of season 1, I'd really love to see Zach again on the show and if possible, playing with the Professor (imagine that! @_@). Great game guys!

[@kylarstern42]

This is my favorite episode yet! Lots of great banter and Zach absolutely killed it! Very knowledgeable about the game and interactions while also having some of the best banter you've had on the show yet! You should absolutely bring him back for more games!

[@emanueleduarte7118]

Linch you are the most sweet player I have ever seen on KZbin. You really care about people and about how much fun they have during the game. Hope to see much more of this fair game next year! Hugs from Brazil 🇧🇷

[@IHateYourDeck]

It’s very important to me to bring back that kind of energy. It’s a game. We play with friends. Let’s have fun.

[@juancaicedo2007]

It is crazy and amazing to see how you guys impact the community. Look it Zach been 12 years old and probably knows more than what I have learn in 2 years that I have been playing. This is what kind of things I love to see and get involve playing magic.

[@senken12]

Vanishing on Krark would make Krark phase back in at the start of Kyle's turn, because he controls the permanent that's phasing out

[@Ukami117]

This! They also misspoken and suggested a commander could be phased out forever if Lynch left the game. Phasing out and in is covered under the rules 702.26(a). Before the untap step any permanents controlled by the active player that are phased out phase in. So Krark would phase in before Kyle's untap step. Further note that [Oubliette] will not phase out a creature forever if the player controlling [Oubliette] leaves the game. The creature would phase in immediately upon the player leaving the game, because Oubliette is a "One-Shot Effect" (Rule 610). It is the same rational as the card [Cast Out] vs. [Journey to Nowhere]. Because, [Cast Out]'s return trigger resolves when the card ETBs the return happens no matter how [Cast Out] leaves the battle field (the return effect doesn't put a trigger on the stack). However, [Journey to Nowhere] actually puts a trigger on the stack when it leaves the fields because the return effect is a triggered ability triggered by [Journey to Nowhere] leaving the battlefield Note the language of the seconds paragraph "When" for 'Journey' vs "Until" for [Cast Out]. Meaning [Journey to Nowhere] is a triggered ability but [Cast Out] creates a "One-Shot effect" under rule 610 vs "triggered ability" Rule 603.

[@spliffi869]

Yay, as always happy to see a new episode of my favorite MTG show on YT - and once again really cool guests. That kid is hella smart for his age and Kyle is a legend. You can have him on the show as many times as you want I'll never get bored of him. Same goes for Posty, Prof, Cash.. wait, okay it goes for all your guests. Keep up the amazing work. I hate your decks, but I love y'all!

[@TheGrifcannon22]

I put off watching this episode for a while because of recent events with Joe but Zach totally made it worth it. I was definitely hoping to see him resolve some awesome creatures with his Araumi deck. Can't wait for season 2, hopefully it will be nothing but positivity in the new year!

[@michaeldlynch]

I’m so excited for you to see season 2!!!

[@oldbones7726]

Fairly new subscriber here and have really enjoyed binge watching your season matches. It is great to see you invited Zach to participate in this match, loved the table banter and interaction. Seeing how well Zach held his own introduces us to the younger MTG talent. It makes me want to crawl under the table, curl up in a fetal position and hug a pillow. I hope you keep doing all that you are doing to introduce people to the game and am looking forward to your next season.

[@thisguyIGOTOUNO]

Kyle Hill is SO SALTY in this episode! 😂

[@Squirrel_eater]

I don't think he really was. They wanted to have a fun atmosphere, that was probably just an act

[@thisguyIGOTOUNO]

@@Squirrel_eater you watch the episode? My comment is for the algorithm! 😜

[@Squirrel_eater]

@@thisguyIGOTOUNO if that's the case I will also feed the algorythm with my comment

[@maximus574]

Well he got robbed by a bad call by the judge off camera and the confusion of the stack. He also went along with the misplay to be nice.

[@thisguyIGOTOUNO]

@@maximus574 lol it's not all about winning. But my comment was in response to the joke in the beginning of the game...

[@paulboulanger00]

Awesome to bring in a younger patron/player. My old LGS was great for younger and new players. Thank you for doing this, I hope more content creators follow your lead!

[@brandonbruder9306]

This episode was so wholesome and Zach is a legend.

[@WeShallBattle]

Just started playing Magic last week at 26 y/o after watching the channel for a couple of weeks and a week of Arena. Seemed like a good time so I bought my first precon commander deck, went to my LGS on commander night and went 2-0!! Thanks for introducing me to the world of Magic! Also Congrats Lynch on the movie!! What a dope project!

[@michaeldlynch]

Glad you are having fun. It’s an amazing game with lots of depth.

[@dinklebob1]

I'll admit, when I first saw Zach I thought this was going to be straight cringe, but holy snap this kid is dynamite. Not only does he play the game with a decisive understanding of mechanics, but he's got the bants too! I'd love to see more Zach in future episodes.

[@davidmartin6381]

“You’re right. He must be destroyed.” Lol

[@devistator1349]

Interesting play there on the whole take back on a counterspell to go back and counter the spell. I know he’s a kid, but he def showed enough table knowledge at the time to kind of eradicate that argument. I think using a counterspell after another spell has been cast on the stack is just a bad move in general. Kyle def made it clear that the dual caster mage had resolved and there was enough time in between spells to warrant not going back. It’s just a bad move in magic to go back and counter a previous spell after another is on the stack. The line of play was made distinct as well as he gave ghostly flicker flashback. So the combo line was made prevalent then. Once again, it was a kid so I get it, and Kyle was a good sport about it. I also feel like take back counters should be done at sorcery speed, or at least only on the players turn, to prevent really bad feels bade like this, or at least as soon as another spell has resolved you can no longer take back. It’s how we do it at my own table and it has really worked.

[@chaosxombie]

That interaction was interesting, because the way Kyle played it would have worked, but relied on winning a coin flip to blink the DC mage. It protected him from any singular counter-spell, as any won coinflips would still try to resolve even if the original is countered. The way they retroactively played it meant that it didn't rely on a coin flip, but made the combo more susceptible to being countered.

[@NMS127]

@@chaosxombie The combo wasn't as good as Kyle said it was. He only would have gotten infinite mana, not infinite Dualcasters, since it was a flicker spell, not a token copy creator. Also, it would still have been possible to break it up with a single counterspell by waiting until the first flicker on the Dualcaster resolves and then countering the spell that the ability targets.

[@rossf8616]

Nice to see reminders that this is indeed a game kids enjoy too.

[@IHateYourDeck]

It’s so important to remember it’s a game. Let’s have fun.

[@tinyguy8326]

It was really nice of Kyle to let him walk it back that far.

[@Junk-Troller]

Man I wish EDH and MtG content was this poppin when I was a teen. Great episode, can't believe it's only been one season of IHYD.

[@labbnisse]

This youngster Zack was/is a phenomenal player. I'm glad that IHYD is bringing patreons to the show, this kid has more charisma and swag than a lot of adults that I know. He should be brought back again in the future. Merry Christmas and a Happy New year!

[@docmidnight]

Lynch! I know it's 9 mos later when I'm watching this but I love your entire interaction with young Zach at the table there. As someone who has run public D&D games, sometimes with minors joining adults, you nailed the tone! This was a joy to watch! at a certain age, kids have the ability to "get the rules" of a thing but also not get social cues of dealing with adults in adult settings. You guys killed it here!

[@dvdgomer]

"Casting Tasha's Hideous Laughter 5 times" This man gets it

[@wesleynicewanner5855]

I think other than the post Malone/prof episodes, this is my favorite episode yet. Zach stood his own against 3 veteran players and even though he didn't win he still really did an amazing job. Lynch and Joe you guys are awesome.

[@ianfyfield6292]

Zach was such a fun part of the game, having more young people on who just want to crush adults with math would be a lot of fun. Maybe like a YouthV.Age two headed giant or something like that Edit: Oh also, your work is FANTASTIC, Lynch. Seriously, its reminding me why magic is so much fun

[@froshtea]

I love this show! Everyone is just so pure in emotion and energy!! Lynch i will become your patreon just because your content makes me happy and laugh all the time! You have earned it man!

[@IHateYourDeck]

Thank you!!! I hope you play some games in our discord!

[@GremlinsKilledChristmas]

Kyle definitely could have gone for enough red mana and lightning bolts to kill table at the end of the game there 🤔. The game looked really fun!

[@atk9989]

yea he should have flipped for mana until he got all heads

[@yomommashaus]

That would take longer than permanently giving -1/-1 to that 1/1 bird that returns to the battlefield when it dies...

[@mtgkid0205]

actually the ritual would have gone to exile and I had my counterspell which I could cast in response to the krark triggers but I do think that would have been a funny way to end

[@kylefleming7680]

@@mtgkid0205 If you are really Zach, then I wanna say I enjoyed watching your game and I wish the people I played with were half as cool as you! I look forward to seeing you on future episodes and maybe someday on game knights!

[@mtgkid0205]

@@kylefleming7680 yeah it's Zach. Thank you yeah that would be awesome

[@DylanDarkWorld2]

This is my favorite episode of IHYD by far! This kid is a magic FIEND! He was totally keeping up with every move you guys did and understood the magic lingo 100%. Watching him play with you guys was so wholesome and entertaining! Keep it up guys 👍🏻

[@Ghaz013]

Zach was a legendary guest.

[@angelogreek7165]

Can we al agree that Zach is one of the coolest kids u guys are amazing having him on here and giving him one of the best days of his life

[@Oopsall]

Zach is such a cool kid. He's gonna go a long way knowing so much about magic at such an early age

[@jasonferguson9052]

Great to see a young player with such knowledge. Awesome job Zack and to the crew at IHYD

[@monkeygame7]

It didn’t really matter here, but for future reference, I’m pretty sure that a flashback card getting returned to your hand would still get exiled. The reminder text on the card isn’t the full rules text (I think reminder text has a little more leniency with its wording). From the gatherer ruling: “A spell cast using flashback will always be exiled afterward, whether it resolves, is countered, or leaves the stack in some other way.”

[@NMS127]

That's correct.

[@Damnmeplease]

This was lovely. Thank you for season 1 and I'm looking forward to whats to come. Kyler and that kid had the greatest energy. Awesome that you brought him on, big respect for that kid!

[@nikolaslovric4557]

Zack is a king and I really enjoyed watching him play. Well done. Have him back!!!

[@toctheyounger]

This was a great wholesome episode. Kyle is always great and Zach did super well, he's a tight player. Really cool to see Lynch check in with him too, thats the sort of thing I appreciate as a dad myself.

[@blackoutgaming5798]

I was skeptical about the kid at first, but lil homie really knows his stuff lol, dudes turn 0 was great lol

[@Putrefax]

Oof, Kyle you could have done the Dualcaster / Flicker combo the way you first tried it. If Dualcaster is ALREADY on the battlefield, cast Ghostly Flicker targeting two lands, then you are relying on Krark triggers to get at least ONE copy of Flicker, which can target Dualcaster and a land, which upon Dualcaster's new ETB can target the original Flicker that's still on the stack. It works this way because technically each Krark trigger resolves individually, placing new copies onto the stack above the next trigger. Although Zach could still stop the combo by countering the original Ghostly Flicker, since if that is gone from the bottom of the stack, there is no spell left for a flickered Dualcaster to target anymore, despite there still being some Krark triggers left.

[@danielh4051]

I propose that anytime "Burnished Hart" is played in a game that it be called by its new and true name, "God Damn Burnished Hart." All in favor?

[@TheUltimateRey]

God hates artifact creature Elks lol

[@Narabedla4]

Just for future reference: you are NOT allowed to bounce a spell (pyretic ritual) back to your hand from a flashback cast (like snapcaster gives) you can attempt to, but it will get exiled instead: “If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card *instead of putting it anywhere else* any time it would leave the stack.” (rule 702.34a ) The one exception is feather, as feather specifically *exiles* the flashbacked card as well first.

[@PalaCannito]

Zach = Future GOAT. Kyle = GOAT. Great episode!

[@blakerobinson4198]

Alright. 1) Kyle had it right. He can cast dualcaster mage not targeting anything with the etb. Then cast ghostly flicker. Targeting dualcaster mage and a land, and if the ghostly flicker gets copied with kraarkashima, he gets infinite ghostly flickers. He had it right, and i don't think Zach would have countered a dualcaster targeting nothing. With that said.... 2) Zach was such a good guest. Really good camera presence, and made for such a fun game. Wish i got to see his deck pop off, but i do appreciate that nobody pulled punches against him. His threat assessment and understanding of the game are better than a lot of my friends who have been playing for 10+ years. Well done IHYD!

[@AlsoNamedChad]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it too late for Joe to even try to Swords Bruna? He would have had to do it with Bruna’s ability on the stack, as attaching the auras was part of the ability resolving. Therefore, Joe couldn’t have used swords after he saw what was being attached, because Bruna had protection from all colors by then.

[@kukivave]

I believe that's what they said he had to respond to in the episode and let him do it.

[@Siridakis]

My thoughts exactly

[@AlsoNamedChad]

@@kukivave I think you’re right, but it was too late for a “take backsie” at that point because of new information gained.

[@IHateYourDeck]

Basically yeah, he technically should have gotten a take-backsies counter for that.

[@AlsoNamedChad]

@@IHateYourDeck Cool beans. It doesn’t really change the game any, I just wanted to make sure I understood the interaction correctly. Thanks for the reply!

[@yosefzanerva806]

Me two seconds in the show: "you have a kid watching this show. You guys curse regularly curse on this show." Me two seconds later: "well, I learned the basic cuss words from my older brother when I was ten, so..."

[@caputofa]

Ok, let's be honest,,,this is the best episode ever! Zach is such a nice guy, Kyle always a good member.... Can't pass unnoticed...At 15 min Lynch asking if he is having fun is the most awesome quote ever, that's what magic is all about, congrats guys!

[@willmcgee8379]

Kyle actually made a great play, he just didn't realize it: Say he copied pyretic ritual one more time and got at least 2 more mana. He then Acquires the Lightning Greaves that Lynch must have in his deck, then copies Bruna as he did and equips the greaves and attacks. What he probably didn't realize in the moment is that his Bruna will steal ALL AURAS on the battlefield and equip to his copy of Bruna and then just kill Lynch with his copy who is now unblockable, has infect, 17/17 etc. From there, with all the auras getting exiled from Lynch dying, who knows what happens, but that was probably his best out and would have been sooo spicy (at least rather then trying to endlessly cast pyretic + bolt).

[@chadbrownlee3677]

Kyle Hill: "You... simple bitch." 😂😂😂

[@ludwigfleischhacker3673]

lynch makes sure it's the dopest content every time :D good game and nice to have a young patreon play a really cool budget deck. Thanks for season 1, keep up the good work and happy holidays!

[@IHateYourDeck]

Thanks!! Excited for season 2!

[@HungrImp]

Kyle cast Dualcaster mage on an empty stack, just to have him on board. Then he ghostly flickered in order to flicker Dualcaster and do his shenanigans. That means, if Dualcaster was to be countered, he wouldn't have to play ghostly flicker and he would have had mana open. Saying that you counter Dualcaster after he hit the field and another spell was cast just made it more confusing for no real reason. All in all, if Dualcaster was countered, Kyle could have never flashed back Ghostly flicker, giving him 3 extra mana. Also, 2 of that was blue, if that mattered

[@NMS127]

Agreed. But the combo could still have been stopped by a single counter by waiting until the first flicker on the Dualcaster and countering the spell its ability targeted. Also, it wouldn't have made infinite Dualcasters, only infinite mana, so it might not have won the game anyway.

[@795reaper]

He definitely would have won with infinite mana having a shock (?) Spell and playing it again and again from his hand and the copies that would have been made. Once he got the mana he won.

[@AndreChaosweapon]

wow Zack is sharp player! jaw dropping skills, what a kid! Thanks to Kylle for being so nice to fulfill his request too, nice guy and a good person!

[@pierpaolomercurio]

Zach was a very cool guest. Well done young man

[@FuglyDuckling13]

I love, and am so happy to be part of, this community that IHYD is cultivating! These comments are so wholesome and supportive(both towards Zackand the creators), and the gameplay is so fun and positive and entertaining. Great vibes all around. Keep it up!!

[@IHateYourDeck]

Community is important!

[@salfontana3880]

Why did the Zhalfirin Void enter tapped? It's a colorless land that scrys upon ETB. Nothing about ETB tapped.

[@robbutler3902]

Started watching thinking to myself, "Who's gonna cuss in front of the kid first?" Way to go, Kyle. 😂

[@nelsikegaming]

"Did you see that?" "You're right he must be destroyed"

[@dasniQ]

and then right after “BABY BABY” 😂

[@razorskatermax35]

Why is this 12 year old way better/ smarter than me when it comes to magic, great video loved the guests!

[@namoroke]

I just heard about the "Joe leaving" thing. I just wanted to say, that I'm pretty sure mostly of your followers, me included, hope that you Linch continue with the show, we love you and support you. Have a nice christmas man, you and the others, hope to see you again.

[@michaeldlynch]

I already shot 7 new episodes for next year!!! I got you. More great episodes coming up!

[@namoroke]

Wow, amazing to hear that buddy, can't wait to them. 🥳

[@soonfamous]

17:00 Lynch is like the sports dad but for card games. Proud of you man :)

[@bloodblade487]

Kid is a impressive EDH player, mad respect!

[@Erikpetey1990]

Somewhere Craig Blanchette is grinning so big that multiple opponents died to Infect from Corrupted Conscience.

[@adeptus6]

P the T is what you do after you Drink the T

[@ShotterJ]

I’d like to imagine at 16:23 when the kid asks about swords to plowshares joe purposefully flashed his hand to the camera. Had me laughing

[@The_MechaGojira]

That Zack seems pretty familiar. I think I played FNM Draft with him several times when he was with his father for the summer? If he is the kid I think, he pretty much won all, but one week 😅

[@dh5156]

“I’m here at your request… stop dunking on me”

[@metalx224]

This makes me ok Joe is gone. He had no chill ever and he could never handle anyone swinging at him.

[@travisneighbors3691]

Heres the fanboys killing the content with their view.

[@aizenkeikaku5707]

looks like everyone is talking about Zach, so I'll say it: kudos to you Lynch, that bit at the end was way more wholesome than the entire episode, and your movie looks really good, will definitely be checking it out

[@IHateYourDeck]

Hope you enjoy the film! It’s on iTunes and Amazon.