I HATED This Car When It Was New…So of Course We Bought One!

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[@Lthrnk0331]

There's already a jeep banana on KZbin. Name it lemon drop instead 😂

[@volvo09]

One way more deserving of the same than a hair dressers "jeep".

[@oceanlinerkid]

Lemon

[@cssmith56]

Matts Off-road and Recovery would like a word

[@lowrangemaniac5326]

​@@cssmith56I was thinking the same person!

[@leehall5447]

Cringe

[@michelle-lz8tg]

what we really need is the Suzuki Jimny/Samurai back in North America

[@damilolaakanni]

The five door, yes. I predict that the 2 door won't sell well in the US and Canada, people seem to prefer large vehicles over there. Also, it will need a larger engine than that 1.5 N/A 4 cylinder engine it currently has, something like a 2.0 N/A or turbocharged 4 cylinder engine for extra power, very few people would want to buy a car with about 100hp to drive on roads where there are many cars with two or more times that power.

[@darcychu9652]

You are damned right!

[@spyder000069]

I miss our 4 door chevy tracker zr2 (suzuki vitara). It had the v6, 4wd, rode well, had a 3500 tow capacity, full frame. Out ran the body (understandable here in the midwest rust belt). Nothing like in in the market today.

[@neilbotha3527]

I live in South Africa and have just bought a 5d Jimny. Don’t let the 1.5l 4 pot fool you. It’s very very capable even on the highway and the fuel consumption is crazy

[@damilolaakanni]

@neilbotha3527 compared to the many cars and SUVs with turbocharged/supercharged engines, V6, V8 and a few V10 powered cars, many Americans will say that it's "underpowered" and "slow". As a result, not many of them will buy the Jimny with that engine.

[@kylefowler5082]

I like what Roman is trying to do here. He's seeing if something someone could reasonably save up for could be a good daily and fun off roader without being a 20 year old car that's going to need alot of work done to it just to keep it going. So many KZbin videos are all about extreme expensive toys we can only dream about. I hope the Renegade works out for them, thanks for keeping it real guys!

[@henryjones6957]

excellent point

[@dpatrick813]

I had one of those little Jeep Renegade trail hawks and I will tell you that little thing was a tank. Handled Chicago winters and rainy days with confidence, took it off road on stock tires and got around on a super challenging course with ease, to the point where the owners took video. It’s not a wrangler, but it is very capable.

[@alafrosty]

Yes, it's competent, but it's not reliable and for the price, there are way better options.

[@TFLcar]

Very cool!

[@billybobbob3003]

@@TFLcar Check my channel i posted a video of my two 2014 LX Honda Crv's Fwd i paid 13/14k for em. You''d be surprised how good front wheel drive can be off road look around on youtube people taking their fwd crv's off road. Most of these awd cars are front wheel drive bias anyway and they dont send all that much power to the rear anyway. I rather not deal with replacing 4 cv axles tho reason i got fwd and i didnt want a sunroof that leaks water or leather seats that crack or get cold in the winter or hot in the summer reason i specifically sought out base models.

[@CadgerChristmasLightShow]

My kia soul could probably do anything your jeep renegade could do, it has 6.5 inches of clearance and is FWD with very evenly distributed weight. My AC lines also aren't made out of plastic like they are on the renegade, having to be replaced every 5 or so years at a huge cost. The renegade deserves its reputation as a "disposable car".

[@neubauerjoseph]

@@alafrostysome say it’s the most reliable car ever made …..

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

Roman we paid $18k brand new in 2018 for our Renegade and we still own it and it has been 100% rock solid and reliable. $12k for one is a bit steep IMHO

[@nordlandak6853]

That’s what I thought. It’s a jeep so they didn’t pay msrp. I agree have fun no worries

[@joshc606]

Was yours a trial hawk????

[@jamesbeaman6337]

@@joshc606and were they in Colorado?

[@normwetherbee3403]

This is a business expense for them. They're incorporated. This is no different than buying a new office chair and writing it off.

[@user-ew4ul7kp4m]

Had two Trail hawks, put on BFG KO2's in the summer and Blizzaks for the winter. Had both the 2.4 tigershark engine in first one and then the 1.3 turbo. The turbo was much better off road. It had max torque of 210 lbs. at 1750 rpm's. Huge difference. Good approach and departure angles and breakover was great. It was very capable for the non committed jeep owner. It handled logging trails up north much better than any pickup truck. Terrific in snow and I live in Minnesota.

[@corey9313]

Good to know, I've always really liked how quirky these are. I do think Roman overpaid lol, but in Oregon they are just as expensive. I mean I took a FWD Ford Escape to places people would never go so it just depends on the driver and the care you put into a car

[@plmn93]

FWD-based AWD systems typically handle snow and light off roading a lot better than RWD-based 4x4 systems. No worry about binding on dry pavement either. The biggest limitation is the ground clearance.

[@brucestring6564]

Did you have to use those KO2’s in the snow ever? Just put a set on my Cherokee fresh out of winter and wonder if the 3 peak rating is all it says it is.

[@user-ew4ul7kp4m]

The K02s were great in the snow for traction, but not like blizzaks when it came to stopping and turning. Our streets are many times totally covered in compacted snow and ice and the blizzaks were far above the K02s for that.

[@VikingsNetworkAdmin]

“Come on transmission, take a dump”

[@damilolaakanni]

😁😄😃😆😅😂🤣

[@kkkkiaken]

I have to admit I was rolling when Tommy said this! Thanks Tommy!!!😂

[@lanceislateagain]

Went from a 9 speed to a 5 speed real quick lmao

[@roguedogx]

Only time that has ever been said about a car "that person owns"

[@bradbaraniuk4085]

12 grand for a 2016 renegade they saw roman coming,my god

[@tomhoots]

Roman just needs to get the income from showing it on KZbin for a while, then he'll sell it off and move along to something else. "KZbin Economics."

[@ckm-mkc]

I paid $11k for a 2012 Grand Cherokee Summit with similar miles...

[@MiguelHernandez-ph5ke]

Idk I think it depends on where you live cause similar mile and year clean ones here near Chicago are like 15-17k, theirs was in an accident doe so I figured it be a little cheaper than 12, especially cause he haggled.

[@leveluplife8585]

@@ckm-mkcat least you have a clean carfax

[@alafrosty]

@@MiguelHernandez-ph5ke Finding any sort of 15-year-old unrusted car in the Chicago area is pretty much like striking gold. Still doesn't justify the price, IMO.

[@Brotherhood676]

This thing has more skid plates than some cars that claim to be "off-roaders"

[@humorss]

better protected in the front than factory wrangler.

[@husshardan3511]

Better protected than the new LandCruiser

[@Qugie]

Honda has a new off road version of the Ridgeline and it has no skid plates and the same ride height of the standard Ridgeline. In fact they just change the tires and put off road badges on it. 😆

[@husshardan3511]

@@Qugie I'm going to do that to my Miata.

[@dirtycommtroop]

The skid plates are no joke. I still have my 2016 renegade trailhawk and its been put through the paces.

[@rickyaz8640]

Had one of these. 130k miles. Needed a bigger engine, maybe 225 hp. Size was great for parking anywhere, taking the dog cross country and had no problem handling 90% of off-road situations. Momentum was your friend off road

[@Kenneth_R]

People who worked on Jeeps called them Grenades for a reason...

[@laraava]

Banana is already taken but you can have plantain

[@kevinbarry71]

Of course sellers of used cars always tell you the absolute truth. I'm with Tommy, over price plastic junk

[@Michael-ur5qb]

The Renegade is junk but so is about everything in this class even to this day with the exception of the Crosstrek and that has its limitations. It’s pretty obvious a cheap new off roader is hard to make. The costs for all the equipment it takes is just too much.

[@mattydslite]

Bought a manual 2017 4x4 sport 1.4l turbo new for 17k and it’s given me zero issues 70k miles later. The manual is fun to drive and the amount of passengers and cargo you can shove in the squared back is impressive. With oversized toyo at3 tires and it’s 4x4 system the renegade will go anywhere it’s ground clearance allows

[@TFLcar]

Thanks for sharing

[@jake51515]

My 03 camry has 300k and still burns no oil. Your car better not have issues after only 70k. Lets see whos lasts longer.

[@chrisclark239]

Thanks for this. Video. As a Renegade owner for 6 years now with 213000kms. It was bought for a commuter car that could handle Canadian winters.

[@alafrosty]

How rusty did it get on a scale from Corvette body to Toyota truck frame.

[@pferris3591]

I'm curious, how well did it handle winter driving? Did you add snow tires? Any areas where it shone/needed help?

[@chrisclark239]

@@pferris3591 yes I had Snow tires. It was amazing in the snow. I don’t expect it to do hard off roading. No problem with snow and ice.

[@AKn4lf]

my lady bought the trailhawk 2020 with the 1.3 turbo all we have done is put an all terrain tire on it and its honestly a great little car. its great around Vegas traffic and surprisingly good off road. my first car was a samurai which took a lot of driving knowledge to pick a line properly which really helps on trails where the low ground clearance is a thing. the off road settings work well once you get over the sound the brakes make when its doing its traction control. we have road tripped it from Vegas to Missouri and it was surprisingly comfortable. having owned one I don't understand why there aren't more on the road or have more aftermarket support. I do understand that some dealers are selling them or trying to at 38 grand which is far to high a price for one when you're getting into wrangler territory at that point.

[@headers12]

Renegade was a cool body design, the issue was the whole power train.

[@peaceable263]

Yup, I had a 2018 latitude and mostly loved it. The powertrain shit the bed constantly despite being below 50k miles. The engine had to be replaced three times. The transmission was also pretty shit. The trans would overheat after 30 minutes of normal city driving.

[@sailordave1000]

Neighbor had the first year Latitude but with the manual transmission. Her daughter drives it now back and forth from college.

[@jonanthonylosito2004]

And built quality too

[@bondgabebond4907]

@@peaceable263 Sounds like your Jeep was built on a Monday or Friday.

[@b.t.2795]

Great review. If you can do more reviews on vehicles with less than stellar reputations that may have surprising capabilities that are often overlooked it would be appreciated. Thanks again for the education on the Renegade!

[@TFLcar]

Thanks, will do!

[@picomanbungace4035]

@@TFLcarThe 2008-2012 liberties got a pretty bad rep and there’s very little content pertaining to those vehicles off-roading. (Edit) Nvm I guess I missed when you uploaded a video about that 9 months or so ago. Now I need to watch it.

[@2151abell]

I love the back and fourth between you two.. Its also a great way to see how the two of you can start so far apart on opinions yet always seem to find common ground through debate at the end of the day. Love the channel guys.

[@TFLcar]

Thanks for the thoughtful comment

[@corey9313]

Yeah it's funny how Roman eventually gets Tommy to come around lol. I mean these things are super quirky and I'd buy one for the right price. I think with Renegades, you either get lucky or you don't lol

[@amazingjason455]

Tommy is always right.

[@Boom5hot26]

i have a 22 trailhawk and i love the thing. I factory ordered it with all options for 35k and 0.9%...yes, less than 1% interest during the time interest rates shot up. I truly don't understand the hate. It's comfortable, and is very fun off road because of how small and nimble it is and with the panoramic sunroof it really makes it enjoyable. and the interior is very well put together and feels like a tank The 1.3l turbo has very good torque and doesn't feel underpowered. I hear the 2.4l tigershark engine is ass and of course they get that one lol. the tigershark apparently burns oil like crazy and lacks torque. The only real complaints i have with mine are that the leather seats are a bit firm for long rides, and that the engine sounds a little raspy off the line. So far not a single issue with mine.

[@peaceable263]

I understand the hate. The engine and transmission are hot garbage. Before hitting 50k miles my 2018 had to get the engine replaced 3 times and the trans constantly overheated during light driving. There were multiple class action lawsuits for a reason.

[@larshamilton40]

@@peaceable263 that was the old tigershark, the new 1.3l turbo has been issue free so far.. great torque, decent mpg's, and performed great in the snow this past winter ..

[@mrknoch]

11:51 We have the exact car they are driving (color, too). Ours is 2015. Never been on a tow truck. Never left us stranded. Have about the same mileage. You can tell it is the "cheap Jeep" but we get 27 mpg and has the best traction in the snow of any car I've ever driven.

[@lifeisgood12341]

After owning a renegade for a while i can say, they are cheaply built, slow, plasticy things that are quite loud on the highway. But i can also say there is very little like them on the market, and jeep really put some effort into that 4wd system, and i never had any issue with reliability except some weird stuff like a parking brake light caused by seat sensor, and an engine mount. Drove it in a snowstorm and there isnt much to describe other than bulldogish when you hit the 4wd lock, it really did fantasticly in the snow, felt like a totally different vehicle.

[@bjrn-einarnilsen687]

Here in Brazil, where i live we have this with a 2L diesel that delivre 170 hp @ 3,750 rpm. Max. Torque: 350 Nm (258 lb.ft) from 1,750 rpm. I have this and it's really a great little offroader. I did put on a bit bigger tires "General Grabber 225/65/17, and those do very well on this car.

[@motorhead_jt21]

That is awesome

[@1063996]

I had 235/65R17 Pirelli Scorpion AT+ tyres om my previous Trailhawk Diesel and now i have the same on my Trailhawk 4xe. They just fit without lift or spacers.

[@robc233]

I seriously considered one of these a couple of years ago. What lost it for me was the terrible real world mpg. In reality, it’s practically the same as a wrangler, except with a gas tank practically half the size. I know it’s no Prius, but it’s still terrible for a tiny crossover. I ended up getting a wrangler instead. If I’m gonna get such low mpg’s, I want the off-road capability to go with it.

[@tarfeef101]

I drive a compass with the same drivetrain. Upland instead of trailhawk tho, but i still have the most important parts (front skid and bumper). Does very well offroad for a crossover. I routinely go places people say 4x4 only. And it's held up so far with 85K kilometres on it.

[@ashlaysaywhat]

I had a ‘17 Compass Trailhawk. We got a huge dumping of snow. BF’s truck, farm truck, and tractor all got stuck in the snow while the compass got through it easy 😂👌🏽

[@forgedfromfreedom]

The moment we start calling turds, turds, the sooner manufacturers will stop making turds for sale. Tommy is totally correct here.

[@Photoboy1948]

What the hell? $12K used with that many miles? They stopped production in 2023. A friend bought one last month in central Ohio for $8K off. They are practically giving these away. How much research did you really do? The Fiat 500X it’s based on IMHO is much better looking. Having said that three separate very elderly women on my street own one.

[@brianmccarty2636]

I bought a brand new one in 2016 for 18k because it was a manual and no one can drive manuals anymore. It was a great little rig and fun to drive. I traded it in on a CX-5 4 years later and my wife still says she misses it sometimes.

[@ChrisNosbush]

2016 latitude 4x4 1.4L manual. I bought for $23,000 out the door and has been perfect for the last 180,000 miles. No doubt it will break 200,000 miles, if not 250,000 miles. I never take care of cars. Never have replaced any recommended fluids outside of oil change between 5,000 to 6,000 miles. Vehicles are disposable to me. Drive them, maintain them as little as possible and throw them out. I can say my renegade has been great. Had a coupe issues that were replaced under warranty when I first got it such as one of the Beats speakers needed to be replaced but only issues I’ve had out of warranty I had to replace was ignition coil, rotors and brakes, and some bulbs. Manual is definitely the way to go. The 6 speed transmission is great. The clutch is very light and shifting is very smooth. I’ve never had an issue in the last 8 years in Minnesota winters with all season tires. The only off roading I do is driving across farm fields now and then and driving through snowy roads in winter. Not a spot of rust anywhere on the body panels but some surface rust on the frame. All electronic components work flawless and AC blows cold. I must have had the A team build my renegade because everything works great still to this day. Now compare that to a friend of mine whose 2019 Honda CRV engine went out at 75,000 miles. I’ll take the cheap Fiat any day. From what I can tell these cars like to be driven like you stole them.

[@jayd.pollard7403]

I had one of these and put a lift, bigger tires, front bumper with winch, rear bumper with tire carrier, snorkle, limb risers, and a roof rack. It was a fun build and did awesome in the San Juan mountains. I loved that little jeep.

[@djoir]

I traded in my 2018 Renegade about 5 months ago for a used F-150 because I needed to increase my towing ability. For the Renegade, all I had to do was put a good set of tires on it, and it handled the worst winter weather Wisconsin could throw at it with ease. I liked to describe it as "as off-road capable as you can get without making a vehicle drive badly on the highway".

[@AllSeeingHeart]

Sarah Connor drove the real RENEGADE, after our first confrontation with Sky Net, and our learning that it had gone live. Strength! GODspeed!

[@yesss6315]

I’ve had my 16 trail hawk for 4 years now. Like you said, transmission is probably my biggest issue. The car itself is quite fun; like you demonstrated, it can handle offroading decently well. It’s not a bad daily driver either, as long as you’re keeping maintenance.

[@justcolin83]

I owned a 2017 Trailhawk and it killed in the snow. I’ve also owned a Wrangler. Honestly, outside of rock crawling, the Trailhawk can keep up with the wrangler. I do agree, that it falls short with the drive train but I loved and miss my 2017. It was a great car!

[@markv78]

Loves when an owner details a vehicle. We would love if Tfl would detail their vehicles especially the engine bays when you film and talk about them

[@js2407]

6:00 - 6:15 There's a real off roader. K5 baby 😁

[@brianloch2388]

I just purchased a 22 TrailHawk in February for my son as his first vehicle. I drive a 22 Bronco Sport. I told my son he could pick between the two. He chose the Bronco Sport. Admittedly, I was a little bummed. I have put some nice mods on it, BFG Trails, rock rails and lighting, wireless controllers, new complete audio - and a few others. I then started driving the Renegade, the build and quality is way better. I have been impressed. I just had Falken Wildpeak A/T3W’s put on. They seem very comparable to KO’s. I plan on Eibach springs soon. I just installed a Go Pedal Plus to combat the 1.3 L turbo lag. I installed cat’s eyes on the grille just for fun. The best part, I LIVE IN BUTLER PA 1/4 mile out of the city - from the exact spot Jeep started. I don’t get “ducked” however, I couldn’t care less. So far I am thoroughly impressed. We shall see.

[@mannyc2604]

I have a 2015 Jeep Renegade and I had it for 8 years. It’s gotten me through snow storms, across the country, and through some mild trails. It’s been a good car for me, I always took care of it and it took care of me. I will say however the transmission isn’t the greatest. Definitely ready to let it go and possibly move on to the new 4Runner. Great review guys, this car isn’t the most popular but it can surprise you on what it can handle. 👍🏼

[@AltTechFan]

My wife had a '14 Cherokee, the first year back. It had the 2.4 Tigershark and the 9 speed. The engine never gave us any trouble but the tranny was terrible. We should have used the lemon law. It had a crazy # of recalls in the 4 years we owned it. Luckily, it had a 5 yr. / 100k mile powertrain warranty. At 96k the tranny failed and they had to replace it. At that point, we immediately sold it.

[@mr-huggy]

You guys should get the Italian GOAT 4x4 to try out one day and that it the Fiat Panda 4x4.

[@johnwhite2143]

I've got a jeep renegade 1.6 diesel limited 6speed manual here in Scotland and love it, really economical, plenty room for camping gear, mountain bike and guitar etc and it's got plenty go about it too, only 120hp but has 320 nm torque so plenty for here in Scotland, that trailhawk one looks awesome in yellow, my ones black with silver alloys, roof rails, grille an mirrors, love my jeep 👌👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@seanu4963]

My buddy rented one right after they came out. We were surprised by its offroad abilities. However, on road it was a brick of a toaster. 4 gears to get to 25mph and about 10 seconds. My buddy drove it on the highway and shifted it into the highest gear and started losing speed on flat so I'm not sure what the final gear was for 😂

[@nm-qt2hb]

One guy in our group has one of these. He has a tiny lift and off road tires. He has just as much fun on the trails that we as the build up rigs. Small wheel base and narrow body gets hims through the tight stuff much easier than the rest. I good used one and small modification will get you out having tons of fun all day long, for not a lot of money.

[@Durango280zx]

Me and my wife love our renegade it's taken us so many places in colorado alot of people are shocked at just how good it is off-road

[@AaronRyder93]

I had one of these in the UK. It was a 2L turbo diesel. Great car in any weather especially in the snow!

[@dantomtishen6582]

I’ve had a 15 Renegade since new and it has been a fantastic vehicle in winter conditions. I also have a 17 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and I wager that from a coating to 3 inches of snow the Renegade is better. Mainly due to its size and the weight being super balanced. Can’t go wrong with either vehicle for the winter, but the weight of the Renegade is definitely a benefit!

[@weegeemike]

I'm glad that Roman realizes Tommy is spoiled af. I mean he was the one thay did the spoiling so he SHOULD recognize it 😅 Tommy is sitting there crapping on this poor little thing but I'm honestly impressed it has things like heated steering wheel that I would never would have guessed this had...it's not super capable but definitely more capable with an '09 CRV. Tommy is so used to all these high end brand new cars that he gets to drive on a daily basis, and he is VERY lucky, and sometimes his attitude suggests he takes it for granted.

[@scottstein716]

I bought my son a used 2015 Renegade Trail Hawk in 2021 with 62,000 miles on it. He loves it. Think I paid around $18,000 for it. Clean car fax.

[@traveltofindme2147]

I off-road mine every other weekend here in Western North Carolina. Yeah it’s mostly fire/forest service roads, but some are pretty knarly! It also has done very well in the snow and went out of my way to try and get it stuck. It’s not perfect, not the best quality, but it’s brought me joy and adventure!

[@Numba1hunna83]

I have a 2020 Jeep Renegade 47,000 miles. It is literally the most basic version of this. It has 4 wheel drive but not 4 low like the trailhawk, so basically just all wheel drive. I love it. It gets around the city we'll with decent gas mileage and it's small enough for easy parking. When I take it camping or in the woods it still handles well. I love it way more now than I thought I would when I bought it. I am sad Jeep is discontinuing it. I think a better engine and transmission could make this a hit.

[@isferfun3909]

I'd love to see TFL do a comparison of Crosstrek Wilderness with that banana on the cliffhanger.

[@alafrosty]

The Blanderness is a lot better vehicle in pretty much every dimension except for its Jeepiness.

[@dpacalypse223]

Eeeeee ,did he say 12,000 . They got his ass .

[@CadgerChristmasLightShow]

Yeah, 12 grand for a nearly 10 year old plastic car is pretty insane. It will be mechanically totalled in less than 5 years

[@dpacalypse223]

Dealerships are licking their chops when roman arrives 😁 . . . He gon but something today boys 🐧🐧 🐧

[@dpacalypse223]

If you know about these cars then you know kinda thing going on here . Eventually something will happen

[@adamashlock1787]

82k miles on my ‘17 and has never left me stranded or had any issues outside of normal services. Dog it out all you want but it’s been great for me.

[@bigcrowfly]

The 9 speed transmissions would fail within the first 24 months. Especially in an early one like this one.

[@jminaya90]

Already has 8 years that is more than 24 months lol

[@kylefowler5082]

​@@jminaya90I think what he is saying if the transmission was going to fail it probably would have already.

[@sailordave1000]

That’s why neighbor was lucky enough to get the manual transmission version before they were eliminated

[@Kjhgr01]

Banana is a little bit over exaggerating though, more like a lemon! 🤪🤣🤣

[@jaretbishop7909]

Just as a reference, I sold these pre-covid, and I remember selling a factory new one with 500 miles that we had bought from an out of state dealership. Customer paid about $15k for it, thought it wasn’t a trailhawk I think it was an altitude. Still, msrp was something like $25k and we were selling those same ones new for $18k-$20k. For us, the renegade was for all the people coming in to buy wranglers that had no business even looking at them. A 600 credit score and a $499 payment all day.

[@lawdog516]

I love these kinds of videos, nice job guys

[@THX5000]

The prices for new jeeps are hilarious and delusional.

[@lowrangemaniac5326]

Owner of the 2019 restyling Jeep Renegade Trailhawk EU specs with the 2.0 turbodiesel engine... Just changed the FAP sensor, but beside that, it runs like a champ... And by the way I'm italian and I live in Italy

[@gilbertnadeau7181]

Drove a few of the Brazilian Front Wheel Drive versions in Brazil. There were allot of them there and they were quite popular there. Never had any problems.

[@KaiLucasBaradan]

I drove my '16 Renegade Trailhawk all over Colorado and Utah, never gave me any issues...

[@meissiah]

If it feels like it's running rough, check the motor mounts. Some of the MultiAir engines have issues with their motor mounts going bad, sometimes even after a few miles. A lot of those engines only used 3 motor mounts. And getting new stock motor mounts won't fix the issue because they'll just tear again in a short time. You may want to look into getting aftermarket motor mounts from Deyeme Racing.

[@jg0909]

Had one of these. 2.0T, 6MT. was a BLAST until i had to change spark plugs and it smoked 1/2 the coils. Stealership voided warranty for that, so I gave their keys back and bought an XJ. no more issues since.

[@dirtycommtroop]

My 2016 trailhawk is still running strong. The engine is perfectly fine as long as you change your oil on schedule. It makes plenty of power it just needs a transfer case with like 40:1 ratio. Works much better with 225/65/r17 all terrains. If they put in a t-case, changed the body style, and kept the panoramic sunroof i would buy it again and again.

[@gipancake]

Best settings I’ve found for all around off roading in a Renegade is Sand Mode (higher reving and more power biased to the rear) Turn off traction control and hold button to turn off stability control. If you leave on traction control it’ll “bog down” and just stop moving with any good amount of wheel spin at slow speeds.

[@MontysMotos]

I had the 1.4MT with AWD for 150k miles. It was fun, economical and rock solid reliable, I had to replace a sensor once.

[@christophernoe5367]

I really like seeing more content with Tommy. The legacy guys tend to gloss over major problems and talking points to keep the peace with auto makers. Tommy tends to keep it very real. His cost comments also are completely valid. Just because other options are expensive right now, does not make $11,000 "cheap".

[@bassandre27]

Here in Brazil, Renegade's owners think they are rich because the car costs a heart. And it's equipped with a 1.8 L engine. But it shares the exact same platform used by Fiat in Toro. It's just a Fiat "wearing" a Jeep cover

[@rgriv9326]

I drove a Renegade for about 5 years, and I loved that ting. The key is getting one with a manual transmission, because it avoids the terrible 9-speed auto, and it has a different engine too (1.4T). That thing was so fun to drive down curvy back roads and dirt roads. Unstoppable in the snow. If I hadn't traded up to a 4Runner I'd be very sad not to have my Renny anymore lol. Just a shame the TrailHawk was never available as a manual

[@willemm]

we just bought a brand new one for 43k. Same colour, but the 4xe plugin hybrid. Looks very similar.

[@kurtburkhardt5862]

I had a 2009 Ford Escape Hybrid front wheel drive, put on 31" Pirelli Scorpion A/T tires and it worked pretty good off road. Essentially a 2wd Bronco Sport. 178K reliable miles.

[@alafrosty]

I think that you got lucky. Those Escapes have a pretty poor reliability reputation. Mostly due the EcoSplat.

[@lunra]

With a Trailhawk you can fit 225/65/17 tires without lifting it. I'm running Falken Wildpeak A/T Trails and they have done great in snow, dirt, and mud for me.

[@bergelmir9970]

I had a '15 renegade with the turbo 4 and manual, I actually liked it. We took a 6 hour trip and it did quite well and was comfortable in it and I am a very tall person. It was a latitude model with 4x4 and the removable roof in that bright orange color. I wouldn't mind owning another one of the same caliber.

[@redmusichouse]

I love the father-son banter and it's hilarious when Tommy is the rational one

[@brianhurley8617]

Love this video and the father son interaction. Thanks guys ❤

[@barryjames1203]

2015 trailhawk. Been in some rough spots but been a pretty good vehicle. Trouble has mostly been motor and transmission (torque strut) mounts. If it is vibrating and or clunking then time for new mounts. Fairly easy job.

[@chrisss73841]

Tommy is right on this one! Friend had one as a loaner. The ride was bad, hunted for gears, less ground clearance than my CRV, smaller but still worse MPG than my CRV...and the CRV was cheaper!

[@Geddy135]

I had the most basic version of this car you could get. It was my first serious car and the sticker price of mine was about 22k. It was definitely a car, and it did in fact drive. For some reason, my friend fell in love with it so I sold it to him for 10k at about 36k miles. I never hated that car, but I don't miss it.

[@MrGabrielgn]

I have never given much credit to these Renegades and Compasses until I saw one of them properly driven in the mud a while ago. Surely you should use it with a bit of good judgement bc ground clearance is limited and the transfer box overheats easily and then you get stuck. But that performance was remarkable. That mud was really deep and many 4x4 trucks were stuck.

[@karelvvv]

They were sold in Europa too, a competitor was a Dangel converted Renault Kangoo or PSA van.. or the Dacia Duster... Or going smaller by the type 169 Fiat Panda 4x4...

[@ukjeeper]

Bought her a 2016, with the 2L diesel as we're in UK, so that is an option, to replace her aging KJ. Had it a couple years, she loves it. Only fault we've had was the OAT in the door mirror, which starting reading too high. Bought a new sensor (amazon, £15), fixed that.

[@jamesbarber8308]

I found that sand mode works the best in most off road situations because it send power to the wheels regardless of the slip.

[@Raydawg]

My son has a 2018 non trailhawk, He LOVES it, When he is away at college I drive it once in while, I'll take it offroad and it's not bad. I found a few places that I myself thought would be to demanding for the renegade and although I was nervous of sinking it in deep sand was really surprised how it handled, no ground clearence but hey, My daily is a lifted RUBICON so yeah! I was pleasantly surprised with the renegade.

[@Toycoma]

Miss and don't miss mine. 2015 limited. Went to a 2017 gc overland, now in a 2018 cherokee trailhawk. Just hoping the ptu doesn't explode.

[@lisam4503]

I have a facebook and Veteran friend that has a Renegade. They love it but had the typical exessive oil use problem. He got a new engine for it under warranty. Personally I like the look of them but the reliability issues put up a big barrier for me to wanting to own one. If there was sometype of conversion kit to swap in an older 2.4 Turbo from a neon RT that would be awesome and make me reconsider buying one. The neon 2.4's were a pretty descent engine compared to the Tigershark.

[@Austinandjules]

The damage on the pinch weld is from a lube tech putting it on the lift. The arms crush the plastic if you go to the frame when racking these.

[@CoreyKearney]

The renegade is adorable. It broke my heart when they put a trail rated badge on it though. It's econo box wrapped in jeeps clothing. I really hope Tommy and I are wrong.

[@volvo09]

Yeah it's a "jeep themed" commuter crossover.

[@alafrosty]

You and Tommy are not wrong!

[@MaxC925]

i just put a new flywheel and clutch in my 2017 latitude, only issue ive had my with my renegade. the dual mass flywheel started breaking down and vibrating and then finally stopped releasing right away when i pressed the clutch. its like a new car now at 125k miles

[@bradpoer]

I'd personally love to see a build series with one of these. Keep it daily-capable but up the 'jeepiness' and overall capability of it.

[@ericcarlson3461]

I love the irony in the video…. Tommy “ I’m concerned about reliability.” Walks over and drives his L3….

[@soupze]

The engine vibration your getting may be motor mounts. Was a big issue on my mom's jeep thing was vibrating like crazy till we got those replaced. According to the the local mechanic here it's a common on those renegades.

[@michaeldemarco9950]

The point of the Trailhawk series of Jeeps is that each one is the pinnacle of ITS CLASS (in this case the subcompact).

[@ysdanielkim]

I once crossed the imogene pass with a trailhawk rental. Only needed to be winched once. It was surprisingly capable.

[@mcnuggetapple]

the 2.4 tiger shark and that horrible shifting 9 speed are rock solid in my brothers 2018 promaster city with 190,000 miles. Never broke down and plenty of trips across the country. There’s a few in the forums with far over 200,000 miles as well as one with over 400,000

[@mcnuggetapple]

I think we need Tommy to take the renegade to Alaska for a durability test. if it makes it, he can’t hate it anymore

[@blueridge8992]

My little brother wanted one of these and the forums were also absolutely flooded with horror stories about transmission failures when we researched them. It’s good to hear that at least some people got their money’s worth, but it is without a doubt a risky purchase.

[@bryguybuilds3964]

Hysterical Post. I love the two of you arguing. I also like the premise of showing interesting used car options.

[@samchickensandwich23]

good review thanks guys

[@jeffdanilovitz10]

Great stuff and can’t wait for the next one. Thinking about getting one of these for my daughter but concerned about reliability.

[@hondafanatic17]

I just remember working for Jeep when these where in their first few years of production and omg the window seal issues these had.

[@poobank]

Had one. Did great. Changed ptu fluid after off reading in super deep water. Did better than I thought

[@CarpetLayer]

We own a 2017 Renegade. Kept having problems with overheating until a few months ago when Dodge put in a brand new engine, for free. They said the original engine had a design flaw. Maybe you will be able to get a brand new engine

[@darkpepsi]

Or either the original first owner or second owner did that beforehand. I’m sure the TFL crew has the maintenance paperwork from the last owner or owners.

[@trailrunnah8886]

That green K5 Blazer at 6:15 is amazing! One of my bucket list cars.