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[@Dporticus]

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[@mylesmohammed901]

back again to answer your questions. 1) Stone Cold said that the What chants came about when he called Christian and didn't hear that he went to voicemail and was talking to him about whatever and goes "what" Christian heard this and laugh. Austin was a heel so he did the What chants to faces to belittle them. mainly lower midcarders during the Invasion angle. he wore the shirt and by 2002, he turned face and the What chants were over. now as to why fans still do it? mainly cus of boredom or to throw the heel off their game or when a foreign wrestler talks, it's to be kinda racist. sometimes it's just a audio issue. at the last aew show i was at, the acoustics in the arena didn't translate well for backstage promos. 2) hmm, that's interesting. It means a lot to me when one of my favs win the world title a lot more than a midcard title. don't know why. but it does. if they get a midcard title, I'm still excited. The champion's chase is really a thing with the top titles of the company not the midcard belts. 3) cant answer that one. but ik that wrestlers appear at other conventions whether legends or current stars depends on the con. but I see a bit of wrestling merch at C2E2 a Chicago convention. 4) signs went away due to phones. i did hear that signs were normally up for entrances and promos but not matches. i think that sign etiquette is basically don't do it for big moments like, WM30 Bryan won the belt and they had a great shot, then a asshole held up a sign that said "Jag Thindh" 5) i say in ring action is 1st. presentation is 2nd. and promo is 3rd for me.

[@majinvegeta6364]

80% In ring work 15% promos 5% presentation I've been watching wrestling for +40 years. I understand the significance of the moves being used by wrestlers. The best kind of storytelling happens without words. That's why I love AEW.

[@joker-sh5hv]

THIS

[@KoolKeithProductions]

I DESPISE "What" chants. They have ruined many a good promo, and are mainly kept alive now by 21yo geeks who werent even ALIVE when the chants 1st started. So how DID they start? Its been awhile, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but from what l remember it started when Austin was the leader of the WCW/ECW Alliance that was fueding with the WWE in 2002. He was increasingly becoming more paranoid that someone was going to betray him and become the new leader, so during promos of him talking to them, he would be trashing them and then would randomly say "what?", and they would all look at eachother confused as if to say "we didnt even SAY anything" lol Basically he was becoming so crazed that he always would hear ppl talking about him behind his back, and would respond with "what?" even when no one said anything. The rest is history.

[@QuackMamba34]

This is a Stone Cold Steve Austin quote on the What chants. "It really does, but I mean it’s a testament to, I don’t know how impacted people were of that. That started off as me leaving a voice message on Christian’s phone. I was working heel at the time and I said, ‘Hey man, this a really good way to F with people and get under their skin because you know, if you tell me something, I just say. ‘What’, and throw it back at you. it’s irritating, and that’s what it was designed to be.” “Then I turned it into something that worked for me as a babyface as far as a way to mock a situation. With cadence and delivery, people can escape it as far as talent doing a promo.” “It’s flattering to see that still around, but you know, I’ve had so many people cuss me out about inventing it. We ended up putting it on a T-Shirt for God’s sake and it sold a ton. So I’m thankful for the word, but if it disappeared tomorrow, I wouldn’t complain, but I’m honored that it’s still here.”

[@blablablaa14]

Basically Stone Cold does it exactly like the fans, and then fans joined and then it just stuck around forever and everyone collectively dislikes it (unless its during a stone cold promo)

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

I've also heard it started on an accident originally too.

[@aaronpatel7253]

For me, I would much rather have my favorite wrestlers always around the title picture/in good storylines rather than them have the title itself. A prime example of this is Liv Morgan, who before had the title previously but didn’t have a good storyline. Therefore, she didn’t feel special. But, now that she is in a good storyline, it feels much more satisfying.

[@guitarhero640]

80% in ring 10% character 10% presentation

[@thefiendish186]

About the title wins for me it depends who we are talking about. Lets take Gunther: his character needs the Championships imo, he is such a dominant heel, loosing often wouldnt make sense. But then for someone like Io Sky im completely content id she gets to shine in matches and storylines.

[@mlg4lyf]

my favorite wrestler is asuka, and I also prefer when there around the title picture for me it makes it more exciting, although poor booking also hurts my attention span for other matches, I really felt like asuka should have atleast one wrestlemania win 😔

[@pigs18]

30/50/20. Bruce Pritchard (WWE Producer) will often joke on his podcast that "Eventually the bell has to ring," meaning that all the character and costume in the world can't save you when you have to perform.

[@shodate6324]

But wee fan excuse bad match with mug story

[@PureSolace]

"YEAH!!!"🎉 > "What?"

[@foxcat3177]

As far as a "wrestle con" I would recommend the Squared Circle Expo that's held every year in Indianapolis. I've been there 2 years in a row and met some great wrestlers. Plus, it's a 2 day event with an awesome live wrestling show each night. Highly recommend!!!

[@themilkman5004]

60% In-Ring ability 25% presentation 15% Promo In ring is very important to me. What a wrestler can do in the ring also reflects their character and what kind of story they can tell in a match. You can have some of the best promos and have great presentation, but if you can’t back it up in the ring then you’ve loss me. The brother vs Brother match at WM41 made me realize that. That was the match, I was looking for towards the most.

[@williamroper5422]

From my memory there was no one defining moment when Stone Cold established what as his thing in the way that Austin 3:16 has it's genesis moment that everyone remembers. It was just something Stone Cold starting saying in response to his openents talking and the fans started to notice and say it themselves. I took it as a way of disrespecting your rivals by basically saying I'm not even paying attention to what you have to say.

[@LivingWithSpinaBifida]

SCSA used "What?" as a way to get underneath the skin of whoever he was feuding with. To throw off the opponent and turn the tables in his favor. The fans (in my opinion) latched onto that attitude and now it's become a chant towards people they don't like.

[@LivingWithSpinaBifida]

I don't know exactly when it started but was definitely a 90's thing

[@doshi066]

@@pleaseshutup7053 2001 during the invasion story

[@ds5955]

@@pleaseshutup70532001 as a heel he did it for the first time

[@ds5955]

@@LivingWithSpinaBifida2001

[@willowfalls7528]

50% In-Ring Performance. 30% Promo/character. 20% Looks.

[@DrewOrDie]

40% charecter/promo 50% In ring work 10% presentation If someone can't put on a good match I don't care what they look like or how good they are on the mic.

[@largebig79]

if someone doesnt have a good character/cant cut a good promo i dont care about the match

[@jamquick5298]

Thats how I feel

[@Robby_C]

what is a "good match" though.... is it spots over and over again or is it the ability to do what suits your character, because if thats the case then in-ring is quite literally part of the presentation.

[@superjonh1000]

​@@Robby_CThat's the thing, it's hard to speak about in-ring ability, because that should be how well the moves are executed but also the amount of moves a wrestler posseses, although that could fall under the "presentation" category too. For example, I like wrestlers that do holds and submissions, those tend to have more moves in their arsenal than the average wrestler, does that falls under presentation? It really depends on which promotion we're talking about, cause mostly WWE is focused on "presentation", other promotions don't pay much attention to that. But I get what you're saying, most people mix up those things and it's kinda confusing to talk about it. I feel like people like "presentation" more than they think they do.

[@Robby_C]

@@superjonh1000 just because a wrestler knows how to do a bunch of moves doesn’t mean they have to do those moves. Everybody has a role to play, the key is putting the right people in those roles. The psychology of in ring is more important than the physical ability to do spots. It doesn’t matter if it’s WWE or a regional promotion. If you are a company that has a consistent talent roster and puts on regular shows then the emphasis shouldn’t be on individual matches. So, yeah, I would say the amount of moves somebody has in their arsenal falls into presentation, because it’s a matter of whether they just do them for the sake of doing them, or if they save them for moments that make them mean something.

[@IAmAntTony]

To answer your question about how much it matters that my favourite’s win titles I feel like it drastically varies depending on where they are in their career, I’ll give two examples below. 1st wrestler I’ll bring up is Charlie Dempsey: Charlie is slowly becoming one of my favourite newcomers to wrestling and he’s thriving in NXT, he’s been booked really well and I can tell just by looking at him that he’ll be a multiple time champion one day so naturally I don’t have to stress about him winning titles because it’s practically inevitable. 2nd one I’ll bring up is Kairi Sane Kairi is without a doubt one of my favourite wrestler’s of all time, I’ve followed her work throughout Japan and being able to see her in the WWE has been special, she’s a world class performer that has won more titles than I can count and is naturally likeable and charismatic. However, the WWE doesn’t book her the way I always thought they should, her presentation has been quite abysmal and you would never know how great she is because she’s evidently treated as an afterthought, with how long she’s been in the business it’s clear that soon her best years will be behind her so I feel more urgency to have her booked strongly and finally win her first main roster world championship to truly solidify her legendary career.

[@BetaManicCommand]

About the wrestlers getting titles. I feel like its some kind of validation for this wrestler. It's a sign that the company believes in the wrestler to represent them and that following this wrestler's journey has been rewarded their audience. Plus, it etches that wrestler's name into the history of the company and the title lineage. Imagine your favorite wrestler who is only known as entertaining, an incredible talker, and a phenomenal athlete, but has no accolade in that company to their name. Mr. Perfect was this incredible wrestler and people believed in his skills to be a potential World champion, but he only achieved their midtier championships. There have been entertaining tag teams in the history of the WWE. Some of my favorites were Cryme Tyme and Enzo & Cass. Both surprisingly had no tag title reigns to their name.

[@SAMS-69]

1. Stone cold used to do the "What??" Chants to mock his opponents around 2001ish. He stopped doing it, but it stuck with the crowds. Idk why people like it tbh 2. I think it's important for a wrestler to win a belt cause it gives me hope that the company has faith in them. However if they're on TV I'll be happy 3. I think signs should be kept for moments where it makes sense. During matches is a no to me, but during promos and stuff I think it's good 4. In ring 40%, character 40%, look 20%

[@josephgetz2941]

Wrestlecade will be in Winston-Salem NC from Nov 29-Dec 1

[@thewisemanpaulheyman2]

In my opinion 40% promo (if you have a bad gimmick or not good personality I’m not interested) 40% in ring performance (if you can’t have a good match I don’t really care) 20% presentation (if they look cool they look cool)

[@ChokingPlatypus]

The “what” chants to me only work if the person on the receiving end has go away heat. Someone the fans are just absolutely rejecting and tired of seeing, like 2016 Roman Reigns or The Authority. In any other context I think it ruins any possibility of someone building upon an interesting character or storyline, but interrupting an objectively bad or boring promo with the what chants is fine.

[@HellaDepraved]

I have been watching wrestling for close to 30 years now. So understand, my following rankings are based on things that others aren't. In Ring Performance: 55% Promo/Character work: 35% Presentation: 10% My reason for this is...no one's character work today is original. And that's not a bad thing. It's just inevitable. As someone who has watched for 30ish years, I've seen everything going on today, at some other point. So for me, I watch wrestling now for the In Ring work. But, it's still important to be able to carry a story.

[@malikjohnson3129]

Steve Austin talked about it. Steve said when he turned heel he was on the phone with Christian and Steve came up with the idea of 'What' cause he said it will pissed the other wrestlers off and it will get underneath there skin with it. When he first said WHAT! it got so popular where it became the way it is now.

[@joeyhxnxho887]

As far as wrestling festivals/events go honestly bro there isn’t too much outside of the summer time and wrestlemania season. If you wanna be around more random wrestling fans I recommend getting into your local independent scene you’ll run into a lot of cool people

[@noahsteadmaneatsschoolfoods]

Honestly I think the what chants are just fun to do at shows

[@JDBachman]

50% In-ring - 30% Promo - 20% Presentation -- Here's why: I think breaking down your percentage relies heavily on HOW the stories are being told throughout the product itself. This is what separates AEW from WWE -- as most AEW stories are told through nuance INSIDE of the ring. When Will Ospreay used the Tiger Driver 91' on Danielson months ago and nearly re-injured his neck again, Ospreay vowed never to use that move again, though on a few occasions he's wanted to. This is evolving, but this depends on Will Ospreay being such a gifted wrestler, that he can still win matches WITHOUT that move and is only tempted to pull it out in desperation. So in that sense, you need the in-ring ability to be HIGH. If you take the Mariah May/Toni Storm storyline, which has been building for the better part of a year now, that was all done through nuanced storytelling. You didn't have May or Storm cut a lengthy 15-minute in-ring promo about their inner dialogue. The story was told through their actions and shorter promos here and there -- and it's the best story in AEW currently. But from the involvement of Mina Shirakawa to Storm/May's own storytelling within their matches, you still need that in-ring ability to be HIGH to efficiently tell a story THROUGH the match itself, and not rely on only promos to push a narrative. WWE is more like a soap opera in storytelling, while AEW is more like mainstream sports. There are stories in both, but one tends to be more fluid in that they utilize the entire reason they exist as a storytelling device in the first place. AEW is a wrestling show, while WWE is a show about wrestling -- if that makes sense.

[@frenchfries2424]

For the wide audience I think people would say promos matter more because they allow you to connect with the character. While if your in ring is good if your not over nobody will really care.

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

Certain talents say otherwise

[@willowfalls7528]

The What chant became popular because it was Stone Cold Steve Austin that did it. He was,... INSANELY popular. Like, Hulk Hogan in 1985 over. Rarified air that NEXT TO NOBODY ever gets to. Stone Cold started doing it after his (probably) ill-advised heel turn in like 2001 as a way to intimidate opponents during promos. "You're doing this? WHAT? You're really doing this? WHAT? You're standing here in front of me and you're doing this? WHAT?" After he returned to being a face, he used it differently. "So I hear Rikishi's been out here runnin' down ol' Stone Cold? WHAT? Well, I came here to do something about that! WHAT? So I stopped by Whattaburger! WHAT! Ordered up a cheeseburger! WHAT! Two cheeseburgers! WHAT? A large order of fries!!!! WHAT? And then I washed it down with a large Coke! WHAT? Then I had a shot of whiskey! WHAT? TWO SHOTS!!! WHAT? THREE SHOTS!!! WHAT? A couple of Steve-Weisers. WHAT?!?!? And now I'm here to whoop some ass!!! WHAT?!?!?" It was huge.

[@alexgood1039]

Haha yeah, came here to say exactly this. Started out as an antagonistic bully trying to intimidate whoever he was talking to. Then it all spun off after his face turn.

[@DSmicklas]

LA Knight is my current favorite. I think he needs a strong title run with a bunch of title defenses to give him the resume to back up his talk.

[@johnmc5112]

What chants brings back happy memory s for me of my childhood and days that was so much fun

[@archwayportraits]

Had to stop the video to write my response to your question about the title. There's nuance here but in the grand scheme I don't care about titles. Titles are just props for the stories, and there are many great stories that can be told without titles! Big guy vs little guy, muscles vs brains, heart vs skill, good vs evil, the system vs individuality, mentor vs student, newb vs veteran, brother vs brother, partner vs partner, father vs son... Sometimes a title can add to the drama of a story, such as Cody finishing the story, but other times a title isn't needed such as many of the Kane vs Undertaker feuds. Some characters don't need a title to get over it sell a story, some do. In the end of the title doesn't help the story the wrestler is telling then I don't care if they have it. Think of it this way, you didn't need a title to help the storyline of Dominik vs Rey, n fact you could argue that a title would have gotten in the way, but Cody beating Roman would not have been the same story without the title involved. Do I want my favorite wrestlers to be rewarded for their hard work, yes, and a title can be part of it but so can increased tv time, merch sales, and career length. Wrestling history is littered with 1 time champions that ended up with short careers because they didn't have good stories to back it up. On a side note, I firmly believe that heels make better champions. Faces work so much better as the chaser than the champion, which is party of why Cody as champ hasn't been as successful as when he was Challenger. "Nice guy champion" giving out title shots only works for a short time, but "chicken sh!t heel" cheating and avoiding fights works longer. The good guy needs to win in the end, but then a bad guy needs to rise up to take it back!

[@nunocorreia671]

i like the what chants and i didn't watch wrestling during the atitude era, i started watching in 2004 and the what chants started happening i found it funny and still do to this day, and i when i saw austin do it on youtube videos i found it even more funny. i don't find it disrespectful its part of what makes wrestling fun to watch to me

[@NelsonPereiraSPKD]

Stone Cold did it in a promo with Christian, then did it to others, then the crowd started doing it to him and he would play along, repeating what he said... But then they started doing it to everyone and lots of the wrestlers couldn't deal with it. Lots would get flustered. It entertained some people so they just kept doing it and now lots of casual fans that go to the arena think it's something you do so it will never stop.

[@WinGamingPT]

Answering to your questions: 1. The what chants started with steve austin... I dont do what chants but for what I have seen over the years(from watching old matches, from how they use it in current times) It feels like its used when the promo is too "generic" too "meh" and people are not invested in it 2. To me its not like oh it has to have always a tittle, but if he hasn't a title or fighting for contendership at least have a feud that makes me invested 3. As for the signs, if I was at a show and someone in front of me the only time I feel I would be annoyed to have a sign guy in front of me is if he had his sign up the whole match time... if he does it at a point in the match I would be slightly annoyed but I would be like: Hey signs are cool and all that and if its not always I m fine with it. 4. The kid situation although I agree with your stance and yeah its the dads fault for sure, I m like of the opinion of like: "I get you want your kid to watch the show but dont block others view for too long" I think its an ethics thing... so I completely get your reaction, I would have done the exact same thing 5. As for the last question... I would say as a fan that was in 2011 and came back... What catches me in a new wrestler and did with the old ones when I started watching is his promo ability I would say... so 65% promo ability/character, the in ring performance is for sure a solid 25% and the outfit is 10%... so like the outfit is cool and all but its not like for example when the Undertaker had those awful snake pants I m gonna stop liking him as a character and he is one of my favorite characters/wrestlers ever... So I feel that the outfit must match the characters vibe but its not a deal breaker in any sense

[@knightofenigma]

Championship in Wrestling are important. It's like when your favorite wrestlers is retired and you have to talk about him after like 7-8 years. There needs to be some resume about their accomplishments to get them in conversation

[@shutup611]

As to your second question, for me it depends on the wrestler and the title. If I love a midcarder or comedy wrestler I don't need them to win any titles as I'm there just because they entertain me. Main card wrestlers I would usually like to see them win a title but I only really care for them winning one of the large singles championships. If they win a tag or trios belt I view it more as something cool than really wanting them to get a championship and most of my reasoning is I just like to be able to say "That one wrestler I like is the world champion" or some equivalent title.

[@ryanpoindexter6275]

I think the what chants is just a fun thing to get all of the crowd engaged and try to aggravate the person doing the promo

[@asadunn9339]

I feel like as far as our favorites holding titles-it’s not MANDATORY per se, but it does elevate their stance in the eyes of the fans. Wrestlers are often at their peak when they’re in or around a title scene. Notice the wording, *A* title scene, not *THE* title scene. So long as their storylines are intriguing or entertaining that’s fine with me. For example, my favorite rivalry of all time is Gargano vs. Ciampa down in NXT. A lot of that feud revolved around their relationship as a tag team and how much the tag titles elevated their game and how devastated and lost they felt without them before their singles feud grew so much both in point of importance and intensity that it warranted the main event scene-ergo the NXT Championship scene. Both stars were elevated from their chase, but Ciampa solidified himself as a NXT legend *through* his title reign more so than Gargano did; though Gargano arguably benefited the most by his association in the title picture in the eyes of the fans and management. TL;DR; a wrestler is only as good as their stories and ring work, but a title or title association can really make the wrestler *IN* the story or match feel way more important or endearing.

[@prototype27]

For me, I'd put 40 promo, 40 in-ring, and 20 presentation. I have a lot of respect for someone who can work like hell.

[@andym8557]

Wrestlecade is down in Winston Salem NC every year. It's wrestling shows, meet and greets and live podcasts

[@fwf31]

What chants is for fans that dont know what to chant

[@samnabawy2731]

What chants today is sort of used as a test of a talent's mic skills, a good promo talent will be able to navigate the what chants and deal with them. Wrestlers that are bad at promos will get tripped up by what chants and it will expose that they need to work on their mic work.

[@BradleyBoy]

To add on the what chant discourse it's typically used nowadays by fans when a wrestler who's first language isn't English is doing a promo

[@freakinchris]

I love the What chats it’s so funny and makes it entertaining I mean no one complains when the whole stadium won’t let Dom get a word in on his promos but the What chants And Yes Chants are bad I feel like ppl only really hate it when it doesn’t benefit who they like on the mic at that time it’s just fun tbh if it wasn’t What the crowd would be chanting something enjoy it for wat it is

[@tricycloplots21]

How you handle the title is part of the title element - what do you do with it when you have it? If they can't tell a good story while being champ, a lot of that can be on them.

[@The00man]

Promo 50% in ring 25% presentation 25%

[@KevinTroop-dx6xf]

Lancaster Pa has wrestling show & autographs show every year with some old ones & some new ones and you can buy stuff to.A buddy of mine try to bring in wrestlers every year if you want more info when next year's show comes happy to let you know

[@Mr_Leo_DS]

I'll go 38% Character Work 37% In Ring work 25% Presentation It's all pretty even to me. That's actually hard to define since my favorite wrestlers are a truly mixed bag of great wrestlers, great talkers and guys that I just think look cool. I'd add a fourth category there though: off screen reasons. My two favorite wrestlers are The Miz and Mick Foley, and a big part of the reason why I like them are their real life journeys into wrestling and what they represent to me as a fan.

[@dreamusmenus3759]

like 50% promos, 45% in ring and 5% presentation. Although depending on the wrestler different things matter. I care whenever there's a drew, sami or punk promo, and i'm locked in whenever ilja, gunther or sami are in the ring. I think pretty deadly is maybe the wrestlers whose presentation makes me like them most?

[@Logan_3510]

For the first question.I like the what’s chants because it’s a fun way to like, not to annoy the wrestler it’s just mainly for fun to make the promo better or just to have fun with it and make the mostly heel wrestler to keep saying what he’s trying to say over and over again.

[@Strange_Da_Range]

The "WHAT?" chant is used in a couple of ways. It started out with Stone Cold of course. I'm not going to get into Stone Colds history cause thats an easy YT video search. But it's a sure fire way to get under a Wrestlers skin if you hate their character. It purposely derails the Superstars and you can tell it sometimes TRULLY gets under their skin. There's plenty of interviews with wrestlers talking about how frustrating it is to talk around it. It's one of the very few strong weapons a WWE crowd has that allows you to actually feel like your voice is getting under their skin. HOWEVER!... It's not always just used to just upset a heel. It's also sometimes used to let cooperate know "Hey... we ain't feelin this story line and this promo sucks. We're bored. Try something else already. No one here is invested". There are crowds who do it in unnecessary spots in a promo however. Even though I grew up watching the attitude era I've found myself annoyed at a crowd for "What" chanting for no reason.

[@kevinberge4655]

Promos/Interesting Character - 50% (Way more character than pure mic skills, but the ability to be interesting is paramount.) In-Ring Skill - 40% (Don't need everyone to be incredibly athletic or innovative but need the wrestler to be able to carry out what they presented in character when they compete.) Presentation - 10% (It is great when everything comes together, but this is an area where it only works if they're already doing everything else.) As for championships, I want to see my favorite reach that peak because championship reigns solidify careers. It's the easiest accolade to show the value of one's work. However, I do think the best character work comes from chasing the title rather than holding it most of the time.

[@Loaferz]

coming from someone whose brought a sign and hasn’t in my opinion signs are apart of the fun. in other sports and entertainment there isn’t as much crowd participation so the more the merrier in my eyes. and for when to hold it up. any time really but during matches i think it’s only suitable during rest periods like if both wrestlers are down. a camera cut. or like a set up of tables and ladders or something like that. besides that. i think it’s fine to hold signs up whenever you please

[@joshuathek]

i like what chants because it makes me feel involved and sometimes making people mad around me (especially drunk or tipsy) is funny!

[@joshuathek]

(i should say i am actively listening to every promo i watch however though) also edit, first time watcher i subscribed. fellow bayley top fan as well.

[@matthewrainstein7010]

1. I don’t personally like the What? chants, but obviously the origin of it came from Stone Cold who used it as a way to annoy his enemies during their promos. I think fans found it funny and started doing it for any promos they didn’t like. However over time fans started to do it on almost any promo they found even mildly boring. So it had overstayed its welcome. But I do think when it’s done against the right kind of heel promo it can be entertaining, but I can’t tell you the last time I’ve felt that way about them. 2. I think it’s important for a wrestler I like to become a champion. Because at the end of the day winning a title is still an achievement, even if it’s predetermined. I’ll still like a wrestler even if they don’t win, but I want to see my favorites succeed. Now, whether or not the title reign ends up being good is another question. But I still want to see people win belts, it’s also the kayfabe goal for any wrestler. I don’t care what the storyline is, every wrestler should WANT to become a champion. 3. Not sure what the current cons are these days. STARRCAST used to do a thing that had a lot of wrestlers talk during them. But otherwise idk. 4. As someone who doesn’t bring signs I’m no expert. But I feel like as long as you are mindful of the people behind you that’s fine with me. Def not during a match, but maybe during entrances. If it’s ever a real problem for me I’d just say something to the sign-bearer. Same with kids, I think it’s okay to say something if you can’t see at all. As long as you are respectful about it. 5. Promo/Character: 30% In-Ring: 65% Presentation: 5% In my opinion a great in-ring performer understands their character and utilizes that in the ring. A good example of this is Orange Cassidy. For me while I’d prefer wrestlers be at a certain level promo-wise it’s honestly not as important for me. I think the point of promos and storylines should be to sell you on the match. However if you have a great build and the match itself is a dud I feel like I just wasted my time. Wrestling is the thing that makes this medium stand out to me over other forms of entertainment. If I wanted to just watch a good story I’d watch movies, television or theater.

[@tomer_stern]

What chants are fun to me, but that may be because I was watching while the thing originated. Then it was the coolest thing ever. Austin is and has been my favorite wrestler and I loved that it added another layer to his character. When he was a heel in 2001 he started doing it in backstage promos. At the time he was doing somewhat of a comic heel character whis is unusual for a top main event wrestler. He was asking somewhat a question and right as the person was about to answer he was shouting what at them to annoy them. It was very funny and later caught on at in ring promos. The night after Survivor Series 2001 he turned face and had a hell of a run having fun with the what chants.

[@EquinoxDoodles]

I think, for me, it's entirely reliant on the stories that can come from them having a title. It's weird because I am not a Cody Rhodes fan, but I like him more when he was fighting for the title, I just don't like the story with the bloodline again fighting for the title. My favorite, Tiffy, could have a fun reign as champion but she's also got a personality that fits well for one in pursuit and a defender. Damien Priest, another wrestler I love, was fun to have as a champ (for me) but I think that I can live without him chasing after a title. He's already engaging on his own with the feud he's got with Judgement Day now. imo, my favorite getting a title is more about how they can work with it and how stories around them can be made stronger because of it. As for the real ones question: 40% Promo 50% In-Ring 10% Presentation I can stomach a bad entrance theme if they put on a good show, I believe them as a character, and they work like hell.

[@southrnbygrace]

Wrestlecade in Winston Salem NC. It doesn't travel, but it's the same weekend every year. 3 day event. Always the weekend after Thanksgiving. Fri-Sun. Lots of vendors and a ton of wrestlers. WWE doesn't allow their active talents to go but many of the Hall of Famers and former WWE folks are there as well as TNA and AEW/ROH talent. Survey 60% in ring ability 35% presentation 5% promos Promos do nothing for me regardless of who is talking. I'd rather they do their talking in the ring.

[@twichy12295]

I think the reason you hear what chants live, while everyone says they hate them, is IMO because of the crowd mentality, a few people start doing it and then in spreads because it's in the moment and they want to be part of the thing. Personally I don't "hate" the what chants, but I can see why there annoying, the 2 things that stick out to me is that they happen when a wrestler is listing bullet points almost, they say a thing, pause, say the next thing, pause, and in-between you start to get the "whats" I noticed it doesn't happen during more natural strings of consciousness type promos if that makes sense, 2nd, it's an interactive chant, most of the time the performer will react to the chant in some fashion, and the live audience can't resist that. And to add on to the crowd mentality thing I mentioned before, the what chant is going to be more annoying on TV then if you're physically in the building, which is why there's this dynamic of folks complaining about it, but it still happening all the time

[@abdullahyousaf-n5e]

60% in ring 30%character 10%presentation

[@Ramonktx]

Lol

[@blablablaa14]

I would say for most people character is higher at 50% and in ring in just 40%. You can work around in ring to make matches exciting, you can't really work around boring character. There have been plenty of great in ring but boring guys who never made it, I can't name people who had an amazing character and because of their in ring they never got a shot to succeed. Also you can improve in ring easier. Dom used to be bad in ring, now he's solid

[@SilvashVash]

60% in ring is an abysmal take. hogan was one of the most successful wrestlers ever and couldn't wrestle for shit. he was so bad everyone praised him for doing an enzigurui in japan like that was a generational move. cena improved a lot in years after, but by the time he won his first world title at wrestlemania, he wasn't that good of a wrestler either. great khali was doo doo shit. i could name 10 more ppl who main evented Mania that are also shit. presentation is ab 45%, promos are about 45%, and in ring is about 10%. now, if we're talking about being a GOAT, i think you have to be a good wrestler to be a goat, imo. but the GOAT conversation is only discussed by hardcore fans that will never stop watching, so again, not that important when it comes to being successful in wrestling.

[@callummc1988]

It depends what you mean by "in-ring". A good in-ring wrestler for me is one who tells an compelling story, the way Bret was the master at. These days it sometimes feels like the consensus of a good in-ring wrestler is someone who can do 1000 impressive moves, and will cycle through them to a dozen near-falls until there's a winner. For me it's the capability to (without botching every other move) tell a story that's consistent with their character work, and get me invested in the result of the match. I'd still argue that character and presentation need a lot more weight

[@abdullahyousaf-n5e]

@@SilvashVash dude it's just my opinion like my favourite wrestler is Aj styles and guys like Hogan flair rock and Austin aren't even top 50

[@SkullSnax]

On What chants, I think it’s more about the types of fans. And I don’t just mean “American fans”, I mean that a good chunk of WWE crowds aren’t people who watch every week and follow all the online discourse, they’re going because it’s a fun family outing they can take the kids to. And the more in the know fans, they don’t like every wrestler, they don’t like every segment, and when they see someone they don’t like doing a promo they don’t care about, they start the what chants, and people less in the know join in because it’s the kind of “fun” “crowd engagement” that they came for.

[@brentamania89]

In 2001, when Austin was the heel WWE Champion that was part of The Alliance, Austin started the “WHAT” chant. It was Austin's way of annoying people when he would berate them during a promo, they would say something back to him, Steve Austin would shout “WHAT” at them and annoy them

[@naturalproductions7185]

40% in ring, 35% promo\character development, 35% presentation - with the rare “It Factor” for extra credit to the rare few that reach the top of the business and become household names.

[@MrKilligan]

To answer the 2nd question: Titles only matter to me if they either service the story like Cody or if its to validate what the crowd seems to be clamoring for like LA Knight. In real sports, they matter because that's the goal. Doesn't matter as much to the players/coaches/refs whether its a compelling or entertaining game. In wrestling, the goal is to be entertaining to the crowd/audience. However, there are parallels in real sports. The wild card Giants needed to beat the undefeated Patriots in Super Bowl XLII to maximize that narrative. The championship serviced that story. However, an underdog FCS college school, Appalachian State upset FBS Michigan that was ranked 5th in the nation in the season opening game. That story didn't need a championship. Those types of stories are just as important because they fill in the blank spaces around title stories. And in wrestling, its okay if your favorite wrestler is in those stories. They're still able to achieve their ultimate goal of being entertaining. There's not enough titles to go around to everyone, so you have to capitalize on the stories without them.

[@michaelpagnotti4131]

Okay, the whole floor seat or standing during the show or whatever you want to call it thing is that you need to wait until a certain age to do that. I went to Rumble 2022, was in the middle area of seating, but a father and son moved from wherever their seats were to the front of the section (it’s a football stadium, take that into account) and when we asked them to go back to their seats because we couldn’t see, the dad said “the kid can’t see” even though he sat right down, so the dad just didn’t want to sit in his seats and was blocking the middle of a walkway during a show. Got into an argument because he didn’t like it.

[@MegaNathBell]

What chants. I think they’re like woo chants whenever someone starts throwing chops. A nod to those who paved the way for the current generation. The thing about the what chants though is they either get used in a promo where the talent wasn’t expecting to receive them and has to change their cadence and delivery to match the crowds “whaaats”. Or the talent goes out actively looking for them in their promo delivery, encouraging them with their cadence. The thing about both the woo and what chants though is, when the crowd chants them, they’re not thinking about the talent in front of them, they’re nostalgic for a routine from 20+ years ago.

[@lucsided6571]

Funny you ask about the "What?" chant. The reason i say it is funny is because the first time Stone Cold did it was in an episode of smackdown, I just checked and tomorrow will be 23 years to the day that Stone Cold first said it. Heel Stone Cold was hazing Scotty 2 Hotty in his first "Stone Cold Invitational" and during his promo he randomly started saying "What?" every time Scotty looked away. I don't think he did it with the intention of moving the crowd at the time. Somehow it evolved to him saying "What?" every time someone choked on the mic or paused or said something his character didn't like. Then the crowd started doing it to him (he was a heel) and he'd play along repeating himself. Now 23 years later every time the crowd gets slightly bored, don't get what they want or someone makes a pause in their promo, unless they are really captivated, the "What?" chants will come up.

[@KoolKeithProductions]

From what l remember it started when Austin was the leader of the WCW/ECW Alliance that was fueding with the WWE. He was increasingly becoming more paranoid that someone was going to betray him and become the new leader, so during promos of him talking to them, he would be trashing them and then would randomly say "what?", and they would all look at eachother confused as if to say "we didnt even SAY anything" lol Basically he was becoming so crazed that he always would hear ppl talking about him behind his back, and would respond with "what?" even when no one said anything. The rest is history.

[@Juanbadday]

Plain and simple answer its funner than booing

[@Dporticus]

Doesn't explain why it happens during good face promos lol

[@Lost_n_Found_1]

Signs are kind of few and far between these days with everyone having phones now. Go back and see how many signs are in the crowd during the late 90's, early 00's. It was wild, dude, lol.

[@Vega.Wrestling]

For me it’s depends on who and when the what chant is being done. For example if a heel comes out and does a promo and the crowd is trying to get a reaction from them so for that I like it. When a face does a promo I don’t like bc it shows that audience doesn’t care enough to react in a positive way and exception would be stone cold bc he list things off and the crowd played along with it but it never happens to anyone else but him. And they probably just happen at shows anyway bc one person starts and either the crowd say go along with it or go against doing it all doing all together

[@Chocolatepain]

I had the same percentages as you before you said it. To me, a match can be an amazing feat of altheticism but I ultimately don't care unless I'm invested in the characters and story

[@madjag28]

For the first one I can see them just wanting to have fun because they are there I didn’t do it though feel free to correct me or something

[@theangelandtheone]

I'm not sure where you live but you should look into independent wrestling in your area. If you live in a notable enough wrestling area you might be able to find some local conventions (there's a few in NY/NJ where I'm from for example). But even if there's no cons and you're looking for a way to meet certain wrestlers and talk to other fans, look for indie shows in your area. Some companies will commonly bring in big names to do signings along with big matches, and the fanbase is usually a small community of fans who make friends with each other and attend indie shows together.

[@zakk219]

For me, the title is not what makes a wrestler. I don't really mind if the wrestler I like wins a title as long as they continue to put on great matches. I do appreciate when the wrestlers I like get a run with a title but it's not something that I think is as important as it is to some others. To answer the last question, I would probably go 65% in-ring, 20% character/promo, 15% presentation. I find recently that I enjoy the in-ring part of wrestling more than anything else and that I enjoy high workrate wrestlers so I think that that is important. The other two are definitely important but I find myself going back to matches much more often than back to promos or other stuff other than a select few wrestlers.

[@BigEll6969]

The what chants are clearly just the people wanting to be involved in doing something together. The crowd wants to be part of the show. I liken it to the wave at a baseball game. I hate it, many hate it, but most seem to love it because most participate in it.

[@jopepe2867]

Its also a "You had to be there" because Stone Cold would come out and just shut down the jabroni heels by yelling "What" at their face and it was comedic gold.

[@chaoticoldbore]

34% Promo/Character work 33% in ring ability 33% Presentation. for me it starts with these but is a sliding scale for each, for one particular wrestler I may prefer their in ring work to their mic work eg. Ricochet. Or their Promo work over their in ring work eg. LA Knight (he's not a bad in ring worker i just think his promo ability outshines that) and occasionally the presentation is the main factor eg. Undertaker. Someone who is 34 33 33 would be someone like Cody or late Bloodline Roman, or even Gunther.

[@Mast3rMind]

When it comes to the What?! chants I believe that those are test to each and every wrestler. You started watching recently. Beforehand promos were written and because that was the case almost none of what the wrestler said connected to the audience. Imagine that being the standard for over a decade. Knowing that you weren't connecting and not being able to truly say what you felt because people in the back didn't believe in you to be yourself and genuine. So there are some off the cuff moments where wrestlers rebutted and got respect from the audience in return because they understood that it came from them. Not from a script. Nowadays I think a form of verbal collective "Brake Checking" to see if wrestler can be promoted to either Boos or Cheers. Either is an upgrade from indifference.

[@ashblack8548]

You need to check out conventions that come to your city/state. Any convention. We have 3 or so big ones in Alabama, 2 in Birmingham. One is an anime convention that host an full wrestling show. There was a guy I talked to at the booth that was an og from wwf in the 90s. I can't for the life of me remember his name (he was in his 70s). Alabama comic con was the other, and huntsville comic con over the past years has had Lita, Trish Stratus, Sting, Mick Foley, Kane, and others. Every year each of our cons will have at least 3 or more wrestling guests. Hell Kurt angle was supposed to come to a con this year but had to cancel. With that last part said... I wouldn't go for one guest if you don't like conventions and the atmosphere/theme. Things happen and it sucks if you buy a non refundable ticket to attend for a guess that cancels the two months before the con or even the day before because of travel, sickness, or anything else.

[@shauL__]

The what chant is a free and easy way to heckle wrestlers (the primary "role" of the live audience) and a sort of "shit test" for whoever is cutting a promo; the reason it grew in popularity is because the often used cadence of commas used during the stone cold/attitude era. When the promo is calling your opponent a lying , stealing , cheating , sonofabtch the crowd hitting those whats on time gives both oomph to the commas and a live audience meter on the speaker's popularity. Since "good" promos nowadays purposefully try to avoid that call and response cadence, getting whats is doubly heckling in a live environment in the way of calling the promo boring or repetitive and only mildly annoying on tv. Especially when the cadence isn't fully there and the what energy fizzles out. If disrespect is the currency of pro wrestling/sports entertainment then the what chant is a minted $5 bill.

[@doctordatabass6735]

Question 1: The "What?" chant: The best way I can sum it up... Stone Cold was great troll on the mic, and us Attitude Era people love Stone Cold in a way that's hard to put into perspective. He was just the perfect character at the perfect time. That being said, it sticks around because of the WWE Universe's love for Stone Cold. I personally don't like them, but I've had to learn to let it stop bothering me, because I don't see it going away. Also, a lot of people get lost in the "mob mentality" when it comes to chants, myself included depending on the chant, especially a good "this is awesome" or a "you deserve it." Question 2: Titles on favorite wrestlers: A good program between guys with ring chemistry is always going to be the most important thing, in my opinion. Titles help the superstars in term of recognition and merch sales, which is a huge deal for the individual wrestler. That means new merch, particularly toys, which is a huuuuuge market. (Side note, I highly recommend watching the episode of "The Toys That Made Us" on wrestling figures. It's on Netflix) I also believe that putting the belt on someone shows a confidence in them from the company. It's almost fandom validation, and when you cheer someone on before they get their break, I think there's a sense of "I helped make that happen." That's something, to touch on points from your last video, that no other sport has. We as fans dictate so much of what happens with the product, so it feels good when we get our fan service. I also think that they've always done a great job with creating other iconic items. The most obvious being the KotR/QotR Crown and the MitB Briefcase, but recently the Tribal Chief's Necklace is now something that people have opinions on who should be the holder of. Even CM Punk's bracelet. In the past we had Undertaker's Urn, people's masks, etc. Overall, the belts are very important to the WWE ecosystem, therefore, it is important to see our favorites get a chance to hold one. Question 3: WrestleCon alternative: I, honestly, have no idea. Question 4: Signs at shows: I'm just used to them, I can't say. As far as kids go, I always prioritize a child's experience over my own, but... I have kids. Question 5: Build a wresler: I feel presentation is part of the character, but to break it down on those terms. 60% Character, 20% in ring, 20% presentation

[@KalEL224]

Me and my friends have shut down what chants at events. Austin did it cause it was in character with him. He was doing it to antagonize his opponents on the mic. So once it got caught on he played with it. “I drink a beer ‘What?’ I drink another beer ‘What?” So on and so on. As for titles don’t care tbh as long as they are on tv a lot and have good matches. HOB are great and no titles on them.

[@Aydams]

Per your request 40/41/19 with trying to show how I might be leaning if have to pick with promo or in-ring. Looks are great, but some of my favorites were the "monsters" of thier time like Kane, Wyatt or Asuka when she is kitted out with paint and masks. Brett Hart probably my Favorite of all and mostly for his in-ring that I'm disappointed NOBODY today has replicated.

[@ladyroselie]

We just bought tickets for our first show coming at the end of this year. We actually went up a level instead of ground level because there's a ledge right in front of the seats we picked, and no one can block the view! I think WE should provide booster seats or something. The kid and you/your fiancée have an equal right to see the show in my opinion.

[@maybecaleb3085]

1. No clue why they still happen. I guess it's because people won't let it die now because it was started by an all-time great in SCSA. 2. Depends how good they are compared to other champions. A good example is 2017 when Jinder Mahal was WWE champion and had a terrible run with it. At that point, it would be really important for me to see my favorite win that from him because he would be able to have a better run with the belt. But now, the champions we have now are good, so as long as my favorites are on TV wrestling and I get to watch them, I'm happy. 3. Wrestlecade in Winston-Salem, NC (idk if it happens there every year though). They have meet and greets with indie wrestlers, AEW and TNA wrestlers, and legends. They also have wrestling events there, including a TNA PPV this year. 4. Obviously the hope is you can see all the time, but I'm fine with anytime other than while the match is going on. If it's a kid blocking my view, personally I would just try to watch the screen because I wouldn't want to ruin that kids night by making it so they can't see. 5. 90% In-Ring, 10% Promo, nothing for looks. To me, in-ring is extremely important because you can hide someone not being a good speaker by giving them a manager, a great example being Lesnar with Heyman. In my opinion, looks of a wrestler doesn't matter anymore. This isn't the 80s where everyone needs to be a roided-up freak anymore, you have extremely talented wrestlers who all look extremely different. Take Bryan Danielson for example. He's not the biggest or most muscular guy, but he's still considered by many to be the best of all time.

[@arnabghosh4638]

45% character, 35% in ring, 20% presentation

[@markwrenn5965]

I agree with this one

[@nyknicks9460]

Facts

[@SilvashVash]

everyone is rating presentation the lowest when it's probably the highest or equal to promos. like, goldberg? he's PURE presentation. he can't promo or wrestle, but he's still a star. there's a reason there were 7 or MORE stars in the attitude era that could easily main event a Wrestlemania and sell it out. the presentation was amazing back then. the only wrestlers who can actually sell out an entire stadium as THE main event of the show, are roman/cody/punk. why? cus their presentation is STRONG. they're made to feel important, and they're talked up as big stars that could be the face of the company. cody hasn't lost a match clean since he came back. roman hasn't lost a match clean since 2018. punk has only had one match since his return, which he didn't lose clean. the reason punk feels so big even tho he hasn't wrestled at all is because the PRESENT him as big. and that's what makes the stars. presentation. you ain't gonna be a star if they don't present you as one. you might be talented, or have the potential to be a star. but they have to choose you for that.

[@doctorsackphd7153]

Gross

[@JohnSmith-fm3bi]

Depends on which region and era of wrestling you're watching. Became more out of the ring entertainment since the 80s and only really in America. Wrestling is much larger than that.

[@mahmoudubs._._.938]

I love what chants it's the most fun ever

[@Robby_C]

The importance of a title depends on the wrestler and the momentum they have. People think a "push" is just the company picking a name at random and deciding thats gunna be the person they want to be popular this week, but it is way more organic than that. Title runs are just a way to culminate that momentum in a satisfying moment that makes the crowd feel like they didn't waste their time cheering for the guy. It is also used as a restart... almost like a checkpoint where you get a chance to start a whole new run to recreate that energy with new obstacles. Its kind of difficult to explain through writing. There is a lot of other nuances that play into it... but there is no hard and fast rule about how things are supposed to be done.

[@Robby_C]

as far as peoples hype dying off after they win a title, thats because marks are impatient. They seem to think that a roller coaster is supposed to keep climbing and never come down. They think that because they presume to understand the way pro-wrestling "really" works that anything that isn't a "holy sh!t" moment is just filler. If you are always going 100mph eventually it doesn't seem that fast... sometimes you just gotta take your foot off the gas... don't even gotta hit the brakes... but just coast for a bit and let the traffic settle down... let some other cars merge in.. They think that the creative team should just bypass all the building aspect of storylines and get to the big stuff whether it makes any sense or not.... They don't understand that in order to make the moment worth while there has to be something to get us there... if something is suppose to happen at WrestleMania, and we all "know" thats what going to happen, doing it on Raw 6 months early wont have the same impact.... and nobody ever actually "knows" for sure. (Not to sound "tribalistic" or whatever, but that is why it's no surprise that AEW tends to have a whole bunch of stuff going on, but no apparent rhyme or reason for it. because Tony and their fan base give into that impulse of giving away the ending in the first chapter.)

[@Robby_C]

There is a reason why everybody anticipated LA Knight getting a title eventually and nobody is really looking for R-Truth to chase any belts..... its up to creative to understand that perception and have the instincts to utilize them both properly in the appropriate proportions to their demand. They started over saturating Raw with R-Truth so his impact is starting to diminish... and people don't want to see Miz as a babyface so its kind of awkward.... The fans love LA Knight, and they see him as somebody who should climb the ladder. They see him as a talent and want to see him succeed... its just a matter of pacing it properly. They can't give him too much too quick or it doesn't maximize the value of the moments, but if they wait too long then people start losing interest and he gets stuck treading water. Timing is everything.

[@wrestlingfan836]

1. What chants can be a great tell that the crowd either doesn’t care or that they dislike the person on mic, but it is definitely overused in America. 2. Shinsuke Nakamura is my favorite wrestler, and as long as he continues to be one of the greatest to ever do it, then it’s fine by me weather he gets a title or not. (Some of my other favorites are Tyler Bate and Jevon Evans so…) 3. Wrestlecon is kind of whatever, I go to Mania Club events. It’s a community that holds events before wwe ples among other things (they have a Facebook group) 4. Signs are during entrances only usually. During the match is the worst time but during the entrance you can either look at the screens or you will usually still be able to see. I often forget to bring a sign though. 5. With floor seats, you gotta understand that it will be tough to see if your on the shorter side, there is no other option really. Unless your front row or close, never get floor seats. 6a. I’ve already explained that I hold on ring performance to a high regard, but I still love people like LA Knight and Jey Uso 6b. Promo and Character (35%) Obviously is extremely important, and they always need a good character to get past the midcard, but not so important. 6c. In Ring (50-65%) I know that I could just go watch AEW, but the promos is what makes me go to WWE shows, and the matches are what make me stay. 6d. Presentation (15-25%). On the men’s and women’s side, I can’t have James Ellsworth being World Champion, but they also don’t always have to be Roman Reigns.

[@Dporticus]

to be fair, i could see totally fine from our floor seats. but a kid standing on the seat in front of you would block your view no matter where you're sitting lol

[@dav1d1400]

I went to smackdown before summerslam in Cleveland and I was floor seating infront of me was a mother and her son who brought signs and they frequently held they up which didn’t bother me too much as I just watched the screen above but people behind us yell at them the whole show to stop holding them up to even scream profanity at a child and threaten to walk down at tear them up. My issue with signs is hold them up during appropriate times don’t hold them if it doesn’t relate to what’s happening in ring nd never during a match

[@operagh0st]

Try Squared Circle Expo, it's in Indianapolis every year. Always loaded with wrestlers and vendors plus a live wrestling show.

[@Dporticus]

Wonder if it'll be around there during the rumble

[@KTStay35]

As a newbie to wrestling, it's the ability to cut a captivating promo that hooked me. I've talked about it before, but Jey's storyline feuding with the Bloodline is what made me actually stop scrolling on my phone & take notice. The in-ring & gear/presentation is exciting to see, but at the end of the day, it's the story that I keep tuning in for. So my % is: Promo: 60% In-Ring: 20% Presentation: 20% Also, I don't need my favs to hold a title, but I DO want to see them every week in some capacity. Jey only popping in to hype up Sammy the last few weeks has been a bit of a bummer, BUT I hope it's just leading to bigger & better things for him! We've also got a TON of Rhea since she came back- so that helps with the Jey drought! 🥰

[@Dporticus]

jeys time has to be coming soon... right? lol

[@KTStay35]

@@Dporticus Absolutely! And I can't wait to see it! 👏🏼🥰

[@firstjerry4517]

Promo 1% In-Ring 89% Presentation 10% This feels like a hot take, but I mainly watch Japanese Wrestling. I am not fluent in Japanese (when I started watching I didn't know any) and I am still able to understand the stories without problem. Because the main focus in Japan is the In-Ring performance. The promos are often very blant, if they even have them. And if a guy looks cool, I am more interested to watch, but if he just is a bad wrestler, then all the muscles, hair, or cool Outfits won't help.

[@lordsprizon4342]

English is not my first language, so the same thing happened to me and I totally agree

[@daquanthepicasso]

I don't mind the what chants. It makes the promos interactive with the crowd in a universal way. And it honestly makes me listen to the promo more sometimes. It doesn't really ruin a promo to me.. but I can understand how it can be annoying lol.

[@punkln0453]

In wwe I want my favorites to win a title because to most of the casual WWE fans that’s how they decide if someone is good or not. But outside of WWE I don’t fully care if they win a title but I would like them to eventually win some title/titles.

[@noahemmanuelkekana2527]

I hate the "what?" chance bro It was funny when Stone Cold used to, but that sh*t sucks when it's someone else

[@Jef_Jingles]

What chants are like team killing in videos games, sometimes its because you dont like someone, sometimes its just for a laugh, and a lot of times its just because you can, too many wrestlers use the generic promo cadance and just leave themselves open for the chants

[@Dporticus]

lol i like the comparison

[@blablablaa14]

Jey Uso is my favorite and I don't care if he has a title I am just happy to see an Uso get a singles title push and be a star. People forget the Usos didn't get on wrestlemania for the longest time, even during some of their best tag runs, so to see Jey be a real star in WWE is all I want

[@nopoetsaloud]

my percentages depend completely on the individual wrestler. for mercedes mone, it's 70% in ring, 30% presentation, 0% promo. for cm punk, it's 60% promo, 30% in ring, 10% character. kevin owen, sami zayn, rhea ripley, it's 33 1/3 promo, 33 1/3 character, 33 1/3 presentation, because everything is exceptional. if they're great at one thing, that can be enough to win me over.