I interviewed AGS and they dropped some BIG INFO (Throne & Liberty)

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Kanon

Kanon

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@KanonXO
@KanonXO 3 ай бұрын
Non stop live streaming Throne @ twitch.tv/kanonxo
@HazardEyes
@HazardEyes 3 ай бұрын
yo congrats on the 100k SUBS!!!! Deserve more and also more content for TL!
@TheLiquidshock
@TheLiquidshock 3 ай бұрын
lies just checked :P
@dopeness5848
@dopeness5848 3 ай бұрын
Wait I have to work on Sundays are you telling me there is no point in playing this game now 🤬
@SwaggyScallywag
@SwaggyScallywag 2 ай бұрын
Bro U want my old dirty clothes from Goodwill? Don't pay full price to look poor. Nice interview
@leonf3678
@leonf3678 3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised by how you actually pushed him to answer some hard questions. Great job, good interview.
@nikolapantelic641
@nikolapantelic641 3 ай бұрын
New nickname Kannon the pusher
@insurrection8744
@insurrection8744 3 ай бұрын
Thats how it should be done.
@Shirolicious
@Shirolicious 3 ай бұрын
yeah, But at some points I was also like Kanon... Don't fire 120 questions in one long sentence lol :D
@By4o
@By4o 3 ай бұрын
That guy slapped nc ceo with "oi, ya know that western players think that tl is a pay2win garbage?" Kek.... Hope of the real gaming journalism
@Oryyyt
@Oryyyt 3 ай бұрын
He should ask these hard questions to the New World team lol bet they'd sweating bullets.
@Spectral715
@Spectral715 3 ай бұрын
Kanon, you got the talent of asking the right questions. And the guy from Amazon Game studio seems smart and reasonable about everything he does for the game. I hope Amazon can influence NCSoft enough to keep this game alive and healthy.
@sportschool3537
@sportschool3537 3 ай бұрын
He's asking the right questions cause he's simply PLAYING THE GAME... he's not a reviewer that asks generic bullshit cause he doesn't know what the game is... The more you know about something, the better your questions will be
@CHEEZEDUP
@CHEEZEDUP 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, this guy is one of the most competent interviewees (if thats a word) ive ever listened to. He actually answers the questions and his statements are measured.
@ivangho6319
@ivangho6319 3 ай бұрын
agree
@mr.f6975
@mr.f6975 3 ай бұрын
This guy is more clear headed then d4 camp fire people
@VinhNguyen-iv6bv
@VinhNguyen-iv6bv 3 ай бұрын
I like this dude. He seems like a genuine person with straight to the point answers.
@picsou002
@picsou002 3 ай бұрын
You can tell the interviewer is very passionate with MMORPG. He picked his questions wisely and did an amazing job. Impressive.
@TheHumanVirus
@TheHumanVirus 3 ай бұрын
Well if I got a big check from a game studio then I'd try and do a good job too.
@aljoschaz
@aljoschaz 3 ай бұрын
Ok Thomas. ​@@TheHumanVirus
@josefranciscorodriguezvall4954
@josefranciscorodriguezvall4954 3 ай бұрын
I can see Kanon either worked in Sales or took a course on how to manage discovery questions. He’s constantly asking open ended questions, like “tell me” or “describe to me”. That’s pretty cool to see, and it opened up the interview completely. Nice job there!
@xFazB
@xFazB 3 ай бұрын
Hats off for the questions you asked, and also to the guy from AGS for answering them, knowing they play the game, the way they addressed the monetisation not working like a slot machine makes me feel a bit better
@Czulki
@Czulki 3 ай бұрын
Great interview! Once again not afraid to ask the tough questions. Kudos
@starkindustries7429
@starkindustries7429 3 ай бұрын
Great job Kanon. Seriously one of the best interviews between a super knowledgeable gamer and a publisher. I got early access, joined a guild and absolutely love this game so far!
@odinsudons
@odinsudons 3 ай бұрын
This was a really good interview, holy fuck. I didn't expect that haha. Kanon hit with some really good DIRECT questions that most interviewers wouldn't risk asking and Daniel was absolutely to take them head on and not only answer them but gave details on the 'how' and the 'why' and kind of where their head is at with specific concerning topics. Really well done.
@RipedGames
@RipedGames 3 ай бұрын
Just super excited for launch , watching this before I work today haha. Like that the team plays the game , they can give a voice to future concerns
@Wild_Cat
@Wild_Cat 3 ай бұрын
Congrats on 100k subs king
@aries148
@aries148 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this interview. I will be trying Throne of Liberty now due to your consistent support for us players that don’t really want to be throwing insane amounts of money to have fun. Thank you Kanon!
@TheNichq
@TheNichq 3 ай бұрын
Its a P2W PVP game. Dont fall for it.
@pkman98
@pkman98 3 ай бұрын
@@TheNichq What are you toughts now after 3days ? Still the same. Would be nice to get a recap. Since I would love to try this game F2P.
@ozoz189
@ozoz189 2 ай бұрын
@@pkman98 Ask people that actually plays the game, not these people just crying for the sake of it
@ozoz189
@ozoz189 2 ай бұрын
@@pkman98 It is p2w no doubt. You can open ur wallet and buy almost anything in the game, you still have to grind a bit for the mats to create the bought gear, but its nothing insane. Although I honestly dont think its a serious problem at all, i didnt play early access and only purchased the battle pass for 5 dollars, and im already 3200 combat power which is fairly high, all f2p. people are exaggerating so much about the whole p2w thing because thats what the internet does. The game is a 100% playable as a f2p player
@KurokiFk8
@KurokiFk8 3 ай бұрын
Kanon! First off, congrats on hitting 100k subs! Been following you on this journey of yours since the release of Lost Ark in the West. Secondly, you killed it in this interview bro. There's many outlets out there who tend to stray away from the hard questions, but you showed off your stride on this one.
@Wolverine0o3
@Wolverine0o3 3 ай бұрын
One of the best interviews I've seen in a while. Great job to both of them!
@bruu1169
@bruu1169 3 ай бұрын
dude you are an amazing interviewer! solid context before questions, love it!
@TheBloodyPoint
@TheBloodyPoint 3 ай бұрын
Great job Kanon, you're killing it - well deserved! And thank-you Tico for caring as much as you do, it seems that we are in good hands. Going to be a good one!
@brianblattner861
@brianblattner861 3 ай бұрын
Great interview. You asked some really good and tough questions, and the AGS rep did a good job fielding those questions
@1wrisks
@1wrisks 3 ай бұрын
HUGE video Kanon, GZ on 100k subs and the AGS interview!!
@Adartaer
@Adartaer 3 ай бұрын
I like this Tico guy. I have a good feeling about him.
@mikeyancy2592
@mikeyancy2592 3 ай бұрын
I don’t mind nominating Tico as a sort of community manager that actually plays the game with the players
3 ай бұрын
Same feeling looks like hes gaming and know what hes talking about
@skillo6399
@skillo6399 3 ай бұрын
Compared to the early lost ark people this feels like night and day yeah
@hsp8933
@hsp8933 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this content. Its a pleasure for a viewer to listen to your talks. Greatly managed by both parties. Keep up the good work and hope it pays you dividends soon!
@Belleth-m6p
@Belleth-m6p 3 ай бұрын
REALLY good interview! Intelligent questions and very thorough. Love it. I rarely comment on videos but I had to for this one haha. Really impressed.
@Yuno__x
@Yuno__x 3 ай бұрын
Please THRONE AND LIBERTY! Dont let this game die, in planning to play for more than 10 years like “Elder scrolls” just please keep updating it and making it better!
@Seb7an
@Seb7an 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 Holy shit that level of copium is unreal. Imagine being hyped for a korean p2w "rpg" where you get thrown into the game with all skills unlocked which destroys the feeling of progression.
@GenDrake3
@GenDrake3 3 ай бұрын
It's korean so I dont have much hope
@m3zuss
@m3zuss 3 ай бұрын
I have a bad news for you buddy. This game is worse gameplay wise than Lost Ark and p2w is little less but pvp and fight overall is much much worse so good luck man.
@ogfullmelt
@ogfullmelt 3 ай бұрын
This will be played for the next decade, console players will eat it up. I played lineage 2 since 2004 up until 2018. People trying to be edgy by saying it's a p2w dead game.
@kane28tyberium
@kane28tyberium 3 ай бұрын
@@m3zussLost Ark didn’t have real PvP…
@sliimcracker
@sliimcracker 3 ай бұрын
Love the transparency here with these interviews. I hope you continue to do interviews like this throughout the life of T&L
@JambalayaDrKelso
@JambalayaDrKelso 3 ай бұрын
Great interview. I'm hyped!
@Gregaric9106
@Gregaric9106 3 ай бұрын
Your questions and the way you framed them were fucking legit! Awesome job.
@UncannyMojo
@UncannyMojo 3 ай бұрын
Big congratz on the first 100K! 🎉❤
@Java_CM
@Java_CM 3 ай бұрын
damn great interview! love the hard questions and push back. Great Job! also respect to AGS for actually allowing such a interview to happen. I don't know too much about Throne but looking forward to trying it out.
@Xambaloris
@Xambaloris 3 ай бұрын
Must say that this dude has the courage to ask the right questions, you suck as a guild leader, but looks like a nice guy in real life.
@todosworld0077
@todosworld0077 3 ай бұрын
haha bro
@Azer0sz
@Azer0sz 3 ай бұрын
LOL
@Wolverine0o3
@Wolverine0o3 3 ай бұрын
Haha he's probably busy IRL 😂
@cory2038
@cory2038 3 ай бұрын
Lmaoooo
@aldodzb
@aldodzb 3 ай бұрын
"I want to hate but I don't want to be banned": 💀
@ivaaankkk
@ivaaankkk 3 ай бұрын
im officially sold by this interview alone. can't wait for next week lets goooooooooooooooo
@Onyx1776
@Onyx1776 3 ай бұрын
Same I’m really excited for the big scale of pvp I was such a huge fan of ESO online pvp
@heartless_gamer
@heartless_gamer 3 ай бұрын
Great interview! Great questions asked and good solid answers
@captnclutch5768
@captnclutch5768 3 ай бұрын
Bro that team rule he mentioned in the first answer about them being their best when they play the game is so big. You can always tell the difference between games where the devs are players, and its a massive improvement in understanding player feedback, as someone who frequents the game hearing a complaint or compliment on a feature can understand and relate to the comment through direct experience. huge W, hope this game does well.
@xxpp1459
@xxpp1459 3 ай бұрын
Kanon approach is awesome to see. Asking the right questions and being assertive but respectful with them.
@Zigzog420
@Zigzog420 3 ай бұрын
New to the channel, excited for the game. Really happy Throne has a creator like you! You're content is really insightful and well done. Great interview, thanks for pushing on some of those questions!
@shadykillas6964
@shadykillas6964 3 ай бұрын
Not going to lie this guy from Amazon actually gives me a whole lot of Hope for the game especially seeing kind of into their thought process not necessarily willing to just throw dates out there to make you happy but to tell them exactly how their decision and thinking process is and what's important to them to get right for the player base
@insurrection8744
@insurrection8744 3 ай бұрын
Kanon: “ Mom .. Dad… I’ve made it 😊”
@farguc
@farguc 3 ай бұрын
Awesome Interview, Thank you Kanon!
@honordevs
@honordevs 3 ай бұрын
In Aion, the other large-scale PvP game that NC released, one of my favorite memories was all the dueling in 1.0-3.0 on the original servers (Vaizel, for me), and seeing random GMs appear all the time just to say hi or do some crazy stuff. I think having the publishers playing the game as GMs is a hugely unique experience and it just isn't done enough anymore.
@TTDEATHTT
@TTDEATHTT 3 ай бұрын
Gm interactions can be really fun. Spawning huge armies in town. Organize races. Hide and seek events. Fight gms. Etc. They make for fun moments.
@on4ho
@on4ho 3 ай бұрын
It's a shame what they did to Aion in the west. It's still a top 10 played game in Korea to this day. More popular than TL and BDO.
@MrTechDz
@MrTechDz 3 ай бұрын
Rappelz days.. nostalgia man
@SiIveraaron
@SiIveraaron 3 ай бұрын
great interview, great questions. I am very happy this guy was open to communicating this openly about their vision for the game!
@TaiShan480
@TaiShan480 3 ай бұрын
We just got the activity timers posted on the steam page. This is huge and I'm so happy Kanon asked this question.
@Dustal
@Dustal 3 ай бұрын
Daniel seems like such a good guy. Great questions Kanon!
@2ezRicky
@2ezRicky 3 ай бұрын
Congrats on 100k man, you've been grinding for so long.
@vallee25
@vallee25 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully they will release the guild event times prior to launch. Players need this information so they can properly select the server that best fits their schedule. Just because they live on the east coast, doesn’t mean the east server will be the best fit. Etc etc
@BzDragon52
@BzDragon52 3 ай бұрын
yeah i get off work at midnight, them pushing event times down doesn't do me any good
@ttvgoober3367
@ttvgoober3367 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, any word about them doing that? (Since launch is tomorrow)
@markogavrilovic2583
@markogavrilovic2583 3 ай бұрын
This guy is grinding so hard man, the passion! Thank you Kanon!
@SheikMMO
@SheikMMO 3 ай бұрын
Great interview and talk Kanon!
@nitroxide17
@nitroxide17 Ай бұрын
My biggest issue with this game is the fact that the story quests cannot be completed with party members. Really kills the early game and doesn’t have the MMO vibe. This is preventing me and my partner from playing this game together
@DistinctOptimism
@DistinctOptimism 3 ай бұрын
Amazing interview. Every question was thought out and didn't feel like they were throwaway questions. Big respect for Kanon.
@renzokuken1227
@renzokuken1227 3 ай бұрын
Hope they add more life skills like farming
@NanzoGonzo
@NanzoGonzo 3 ай бұрын
Great interview. You answered some tough questions and the dev gave thorough answers.
@ImDevs
@ImDevs 3 ай бұрын
I actually love that they believe in playing the game. I feel like the reason BDO has gone down hill so much recently is the massive disconnect the developers at PA have with the game. The changes they have been making are changes that either nobody wanted or it’s a small minority begging, they have no clue what the vast majority of their veteran players actually want because they don’t even listen or play. With AGS actually playing TnL I hope they can understand where the players are coming from and take feedback more seriously.
@billdylan1600
@billdylan1600 3 ай бұрын
They said they play new world and clearly didnt. But yeah lets see where this goes
@ImDevs
@ImDevs 3 ай бұрын
@@billdylan1600 yeah, like kanon said there’s a big difference between developing a game and publishing a game. I only hope for the best tho I really don’t want bots to just ruin the game like in Lost ark and I hope there’s no bad changes months down the line that ruin the game.
@snakeskins777
@snakeskins777 3 ай бұрын
Have you played new world??
@NewbOoyNS
@NewbOoyNS 3 ай бұрын
@@billdylan1600 Different teams. The AGS game dev and publisher side is like two different companies (however it doesn't help optics that they share the same name).
@cosmor2572
@cosmor2572 3 ай бұрын
Congrats for the 100k man! I hope to see even more high quality content in future 😁
@RealBoci
@RealBoci 3 ай бұрын
Big W imo. Excellent interview Kanon, thank you!
@mr.gameandteach7197
@mr.gameandteach7197 3 ай бұрын
These were good questions and honest answers. Best interview I've seen in the last 5 years. You got a sub from me because of this.
@Mr_Higgles
@Mr_Higgles 3 ай бұрын
Ooo sweet so each weapon combo with have a name attached to it, that’s actually nice and makes you have more of an identity with your combo.
@Styxxriver
@Styxxriver 3 ай бұрын
From BDO Striker Guides To Being In The Forefront Of Media For Throne And Many Other Games Just Wanted To Say Congratulations On How Far Youve Pushed Yourself And Your Content! One Of The Most Influential Creators Out There!
@LancelotNZL
@LancelotNZL 3 ай бұрын
They just updated the Steam page with the actual Event times for each server and also the road map. Great work man lets hope they continue to listen and keep making chnages for the better.
@Ricmaniac
@Ricmaniac 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate how you asked them some of the questions. Not afraid to ask the hard questions. But you cannot tell me you didnt have to give a list with your questions beforehand :P Good video!
@Highimki
@Highimki 3 ай бұрын
I’m happy for Kanon . I remember seeing him at 70k subs. I knew that when the throne was close to release his channel was gonna pop out ! 🎉Grts on 100k @kanon
@CocoBuphs
@CocoBuphs 3 ай бұрын
This was a great interview. Good on you for asking all of the right questions!
@somethingsomething62
@somethingsomething62 3 ай бұрын
This interview brings Lost Ark flashbacks where we're always ages behind Korea.
@Myg388
@Myg388 3 ай бұрын
haha finally someone was able to answer the question about the lucent shared by account.... now we just have to confirm if the amitoi are also shared or not :O, great interview
@nikolapantelic641
@nikolapantelic641 3 ай бұрын
They are
@FlashJ7
@FlashJ7 3 ай бұрын
i think as a community we have dealt with so much bs, and been through this so many times. That its like clockwork to get all of the best questions
@siennamortgage
@siennamortgage 3 ай бұрын
Developers that actually play their own game. Amazing.
@Danktart
@Danktart 3 ай бұрын
Localization producers... they have 0 control of the design.
@dieterdohlen6386
@dieterdohlen6386 3 ай бұрын
@@Danktart They're publishers, not localization, lol. They buy localization from a team, they do decide what gets put in the AGS release and what isn't. Just watch this interview, he explains in what ways the AGS version will be different. But obv they can't tell the devs to completely change the game, they can't burn money.
@TheNichq
@TheNichq 3 ай бұрын
Amazon doesnt develop the game at all. They have no control over anything.
@dieterdohlen6386
@dieterdohlen6386 3 ай бұрын
@@TheNichq Stop spreading bs, they're the publishers. They decide which system get put in the game, and they demand changes if they see them necessary. Have you never played a KR port before? Why you keep lying in these comments? Literally in this interview they explain what gets changed in launch compared to the KR version. AGS, as publisher, needs to make sure this game breaks even, or better. So of course, they'll do anything needed to achieve that goal. Google what a publisher is, lol.
@iconic4609
@iconic4609 3 ай бұрын
We need to pitch in and get this man some chairs that are for actual grown men.
@joukgaming
@joukgaming 3 ай бұрын
Really great interview and Daniel really seems like a genuine guy.
@Whelps
@Whelps 3 ай бұрын
one of the best interview with game dev W questions W answers
@heralyse
@heralyse 3 ай бұрын
I was actually pleasantly surprised by this interview, good questions.
@Darkhorse1190
@Darkhorse1190 3 ай бұрын
Brother, these are straight up player questions! Not some softball BS questions just to hype up and sell a game. I love that you followed up to AGS answers for clarifications.
@Trimtata
@Trimtata 3 ай бұрын
Great Interview, seems like T&L is in good hands!
@Josajame
@Josajame 3 ай бұрын
That was great, super informative, easy to follow. Really enjoyed it!
@mr.f6975
@mr.f6975 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff Kanon always asking the hard questions, someone's gotta do it
@motivationspeaker5330
@motivationspeaker5330 3 ай бұрын
Just subscribed I like this dude. He asks the tough questions that everyone wants answers too...great job brother
@Vitnir
@Vitnir 2 ай бұрын
Great interview! =D A lot of very important info you were able to gather ^^
@JoshWitte
@JoshWitte 3 ай бұрын
Dunkey clipped you 👀
@velmax1
@velmax1 3 ай бұрын
Kanon, why arent you a famous journalist interviewing world leaders? You did a great job with the interview haha
@loscangris100
@loscangris100 3 ай бұрын
Great interview! solid questions asked and gz for 100k
@Thexis_
@Thexis_ 3 ай бұрын
You asked the right questions and got some good answers. I hope they do stick to this plan and maybe the game will be more successful that originally expected.
@Crossroadsinfo
@Crossroadsinfo 3 ай бұрын
Ubisoft needs someone like that guy in there fixing up the mess they got in.
@Holly24612
@Holly24612 3 ай бұрын
I like you Kanon you are not afraid to ask bold questions, you do not sugarcoat. Sub
@mtkkk
@mtkkk 3 ай бұрын
What a great 'no bullshit answers' interview this was. Props to both of you, actually based
@zumeow
@zumeow 3 ай бұрын
great questions and great answers!
@StickySubstance
@StickySubstance 3 ай бұрын
W Kanon for providing us this content. 💯
@ursalight
@ursalight 3 ай бұрын
i like how he remembers to force a smile every 30 seconds
3 ай бұрын
Really good questions and with respect. Also u talking with the right person which makes this interview more solid. looks like AGS is looking a lot for Tl so lets wait and see results hopefully not the same way as new world
@fizzylu
@fizzylu 3 ай бұрын
I've been on the fence about Throne & Liberty since I had a chance to play the closed beta.... but this interview has made me feel a lot better about most of my concerns when it came to it, and honestly, it also has improved my opinion of AGS a bit. Let's hope they never lose Daniel, haha.
@QueenAahlyia
@QueenAahlyia 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for addressing bots, cheating, and exploits. I haven't heard that mentioned in depth anywhere else. With the competitive aspect of Throne, those topics can easily make or break the game.
@saraivado
@saraivado 3 ай бұрын
Amazing job Kanon, you are easily becoming the face of MMOs in the youtube world. Great work pushing while still being polite and professional.
@schuviarz8614
@schuviarz8614 3 ай бұрын
Excelent video Kanon HUUUUUUGE W my man, well deserved
@getskillplz5719
@getskillplz5719 3 ай бұрын
Big W! Those guys playing the game, im pretty sure alot of those changes since the release comes also from them or atleast the feedback that leads to it. Sounds like they know what we need and when we need it.
@Reddstarz
@Reddstarz 3 ай бұрын
"to play the game to experience what players are going through". EXACTLY! that's what some developers don't have and don't understand.
@Lunatiaaru
@Lunatiaaru 3 ай бұрын
Congrats for the 100k ! and great interview thanks you 🎉
@SuaveRic0
@SuaveRic0 3 ай бұрын
Great interview and tico really knows his stuff!
@Phrame1
@Phrame1 3 ай бұрын
Great interview Kanon and congrats on 100K subs! 🎉 You've grown a lot as a creator these past few years Also I'm really glad to hear they added names to the classes. 'Crusader' sounds a lot better to me than saying SnS Greatsword all the time
@pedrothin
@pedrothin 3 ай бұрын
And here I am giving another chance to AGS... Let's see how it goes.
@Notfallhamster
@Notfallhamster 3 ай бұрын
My guess? As it used to be ^^.
@itsMickyLee
@itsMickyLee 3 ай бұрын
Ncfsoft is way more hands on.
@faisalchowdhury1945
@faisalchowdhury1945 3 ай бұрын
I don't think we will have a choice. But knowing NcTrash , they will ruin their own game. AgS is a puppet and surprisingly very incompetent l.
@billlam7756
@billlam7756 3 ай бұрын
Lmao it's free 2 play 😂
@m3zuss
@m3zuss 3 ай бұрын
​@@billlam7756as Lost Ark but we all know what happened..
@heroblake6572
@heroblake6572 3 ай бұрын
I love these interview videos. Good job Kanon 👏
@MetalHips
@MetalHips 3 ай бұрын
I wont lie, I am not too keen on some of your covered content. Mostly my personal feelings towards some of the games you cover. That being said, absolutely love your interviews. Very professional yet asking the right questions and confronting the right things. Very well done
@trap4925
@trap4925 3 ай бұрын
This was good. AGS and NC soft have a rare opportunity to localize and transport conent but make sure it doesnt chase away players with greasy monetization
@JonahVeilGaming
@JonahVeilGaming 3 ай бұрын
Great video, loved the dude from AGS, seems solid and good answers. 10/10
@FelixJMK
@FelixJMK 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Best TL KZbin content creator by a mile.
@summertime8525
@summertime8525 3 ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 I’m gonna play TnL since this is the continuation of Lineage 2.
@itsMickyLee
@itsMickyLee 3 ай бұрын
Lineage 2 was my absolute favorite
@Denka_
@Denka_ 3 ай бұрын
Soon as I saw it had soulshots I knew it was Linage 3
@liquidbotanorama3786
@liquidbotanorama3786 3 ай бұрын
it's not a continuation. where do you see the continuation? just some people and some features are the same/similar. Lineage 2 is what it is, nothing comes close. We talkin about maybe the best and hardest MMO. Rest for mana and health regen, AS IT SHOULD. Deleveling, Open World PVP and Karma system AS IT SHOULD. Party driven game and DIfficult to xp and drop items AS IT SHOULD. and many more things but that's why all of us who played l2 LOVED IT. CUZ IT WAS HARD AND IT WAS WORTH IT.
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