I Invite My Friends With Families To Stay Over But They Do THIS To My Adoptive Daughter Behind My...

[@Kruhee]

So, they expected Hannah, a 14-year-old girl, to leave immediately, but THEY didn’t want to leave at that moment? Oh, the irony-it doesn’t feel so good when the shoe is on the other foot. They really are self-entitled jerks.

[@thedorkone1516]

How much you wanna bet that the guy was just fine watching Hannah until his wife caught him perving on a kid?

[@GMAMEC]

That’s a good point.These people are horrible hypocrites.

[@ellorasg4525]

@@thedorkone1516 good point. He is obviously a pedo and OP should be wary of him around all of her kids.

[@vivanyatodd5036]

Not to mention, they are pushing a 14 years-old girl wearing provocative clothes (in their opinion) to go home alone in the middle of the night!! Were they wanting to "teach her a lesson" or would one of the men slip out and wait on a dark road?

[@greencrazystories]

Absolutely, the double standard is astonishing It’s clear who the real inconsiderate ones were in this situation Kudos to the hosts for standing up for Hannah

[@StacyKrueger]

This is a little girl who has not grown up in the best environment. She's around a family that loves her and respects her. And now she has seen that family stand up for her against their own friends without a moment's hesitation. That is going to change this little girl's life.

[@jeffreynesmith3636]

Story One: NTA. This is a CHILD. This was inflicted on a child by adults. If a grown ass man is so lacking in self control that the sight of a child dressed "inappropriately" causes him to freak out, then maybe his own children should be worried about what's going through Daddy's head when they dress for a weekend by the lake. I personally think Hannah needs all the support she can get!

[@malindabful]

Right?!? I can't imagine looking at a tween or teenager that's dressed or acting inappropriately and think I should approach them to protect my husband! If there's an issue it would be his head getting backhanded, not the child's!

[@thejourney1369]

Last story. I HATE baby talk. My husband tried it one time and I told him we weren’t b doing that. He said his mom did and I told him to tell her to stop, and if he didn’t, I would. Didn’t hear it from either of them. Baby talk is just stupid.

[@diamondjim7560]

Might need to check and see if he is on the registry…… or should be.

[@ONI09100]

i dont agree with the way he/they handled it but i can get where he was coming from. a grown man dancing with a child that is not their own let alone one that is dressed provocatively is going to come across as predatory thanks to moddon stereotypes plus we dont know what his wife is like how his kids would take it hell it might have been as basic as he was worried he was going to get a hard on something guys dont have a lot of control over that kind of thing wile few guys would have a problem with a child a 14 year old dressed provocatively dancing and touching him might be to close for comfort. guys get looked at like sexual predictors just for being in a park around a lot of kids even if they are just watching their own kids. so i get where his head was probably at and it dosen't make him dodgy but i think the adults handled it poorly.

[@defender4004]

@@ONI09100Hannah requested the adults to dance, not to dance with her. There‘s a difference. Dancing at the same time as and near a teenager doesn‘t mean anything.

[@ifynwamma]

S2: She is a SAHM with a kid in Daycare, and she can't even drop him off or pick him up on time? Why is she staying home?

[@lorilancaster5917]

I would be checking credit cards and statements to see what she’s actually doing while her son is in daycare? She seems to think herself as a trophy wife and not a SAHM.

[@CensorshipVictim]

@@lorilancaster5917 she's probably cheating

[@lyswatkins9321]

...or IS she staying at home, or who with???

[@scibear9944]

I dunno what she actually is, but she's not a stay-at-home MOM, since it doesn't sound like she's actually doing any mothering, or even contributing to the household in a meaningful way. If I were OP id be wondering why i'm married to her, since nothing would be different if she weren't in the picture. Maybe she's good in bed or something and OP is a simp🤷

[@MizMorgue1]

Ppl like this woman make me nuts! I'm amazed she even chose to have a child, seeing how raising a child well demands paying attention to someone other than yourself.

[@DrownedInExile]

S1: Wow what bravery it takes for all these "adults" to gang up on a teenager the moment the hosts' back is turned. I'm sure their courage will be the stuff of legend and song! OP did good. Hannah will never forget.

[@whitneybennett4857]

Yeah, what total cowards. If her behavior really had been causing problems, then later on that night one of the women should have pulled OP aside IN PRIVATE and said something along the lines of: "Listen, I hate to bring this up but tonight, Hannah was acting in a way that I consider to be a bit inappropriate. Could you maybe discuss this with her at another time and ask her to tone it down just a little?" You don't rally a bunch of adults to publicly shame and humiliate her.

[@breezy3392]

​@whitneybennett4857 Exactly this. They way the adults were behaving ganging up on a child was disgraceful

[@briangarrow448]

First story- Well done, mom! Protect that poor girl. She needs adults like you in her life.

[@brandinicole1372]

First OP was like GTFO. Don’t pass go, don’t collect $200 just GET. THE. F*CK. OUT. OP has restored some of my faith in humanity.😊

[@lorilancaster5917]

And even if hypothetically Hannah’s outfit was inappropriate, the proper thing to do is to go to OP and spouse and private and express your concern. Not berate a child as a group who is also away from any parental support.

[@babybookworm003]

⁠@@lorilancaster5917op said her daughter is a good influence on Hannah so my best guess is with guidance op is letting the person Hannah unequivocally trusts help Hannah and these so called friends probably set that back leaps and bounds

[@rheinhartsilvento2576]

​@@brandinicole1372 Restored

[@brandinicole1372]

@@rheinhartsilvento2576 I seen that damn autocorrect 😂

[@Citizenesse8]

Story 1 definitely NTA. I am absolutely thrilled that OP stood up for Hannah. I really hope OP reassured Hannah that it wasn't her fault and that the behavior of those gross adults was not her responsibility or her fault. Good on OP for dealing with that nonsense immediately.

[@breezy3392]

Story 1: These adults ganged up on a child rather than approach the adult/parent figure responsible for her with their "concerns". That they waited for OP to walk away shows that they know they're wrong

[@samanthasmiles9112]

Poor Hannah. Anyone who sexualizes a child needs to get out of my house IMMEDIATELY. Ganging up on a girl and making her responsible for your perverted feelings is ridiculous.

[@miss_mish]

What disgusting people in the first story. Congratulations on protecting this poor girl, she will ALWAYS remember that you had her back.

[@nerdygeekgamer5528]

I'm guessing Hannah dresses the way she dresses is because her own mother can't be bothered to give a RATS ASS CARE ABOUT HER or what she WEARS her SUBSTANCES are more IMPORTANT than her own DAUGHTER

[@nerdygeekgamer5528]

I'm guessing Hannah dresses the way she dresses is because her own mother can't be bothered to give a RATS ASS CARE ABOUT HER or what she WEARS her SUBSTANCES are more IMPORTANT than her own DAUGHTER

[@OmegaII]

Story 1: FAFO, you don't mess with the child of the host and expect to stay.

[@lorilancaster5917]

And we know that if they stayed until morning, they would try and create another excuse or try to scold Hannah again behind OPs back.

[@Rankinen]

Story 3: If the family is worried, they should've talked about it with Jake instead. Honestly, Jake doesn't even sound like he is out of control, he is not in debt nor is he addicted. He hasn't given any signs that his personal life affects his job.

[@TheQuantumWave]

OP sounds jealous that Jake can have a party lifestyle (assuming OP wasn't exaggerating a bit) and still have his shit together where the business is concerned. I bet OP has no social circle and no social life.

[@champslim]

The family business story; Wait sooo this guy mom gave up custody and stayed around as a family friend?? And just moved to a different country, and everyone lost contact with her??? And Op wondening why his brother is kinda messed up??!!

[@leviathan8215]

I am someone with ADHD who has always struggled with being late and time management, and I practiced and practiced and now I am on time early for almost everything. I have very little sympathy for adults who just never bothered to learn how to adapt

[@tricorvus2673]

I have ADHD and on the spectrum, but boy I was cured of time issues by a chronically late mother growing up. Watching the annoyance she habitually caused, made me do everything possible to make myself not such a nuisance. I get going 2 hours early. I get there early and bring a book to read while I wait.

[@shebakoby]

late wife story: Why did OP even marry this woman? All that aside, if wifey is a SAHM, why does kiddo even NEED to be in daycare? That's an extra expense they don't need.

[@nerdygeekgamer5528]

I was thinking the same thing if she's home all day why doesn't she become the DAYCARE she's right there why pay for something you don't NEED

[@trixmania]

Cos she dont want to look after the kid in the pretence of the kid being educated

[@alricaneshama]

Because she's a selfish, entiled, irresponsible brat.

[@katie6731]

Lots of people choose to put their kids in daycare for socialization time that the kids wouldn't get by being at home all day. It's useful to have a child learn to accept direction from a non-parent adult before they begin school. Plus, there are appointments and errands which are easier to do without having a child present. Stay-at-home parents often have their own small business, do administrative work for their spouse's business, network for their spouse's advancement, volunteer, have hobbies which require sustained focus or components which are dangerous for a young child, are disabled and need a backup care option for their bad days, etc. A significant number of "stay-at-home" parents are actually work-from-home parents (unlikely in this particular case, as OP mentioned their wife's "allowance"). My stepmother used to run a daycare. There were several kids each year who had a stay-at-home parent. It's fairly common.

[@shebakoby]

@@katie6731 the only problem with that is, some kids are unmanageable for a daycare due to issues with authority. Socialization used to happen out on the street at home and then kindergarten. But seriously, what's the point of a stay-at-home, NON-working parent (I can see it if the parent IS working from home) to stay home if not to take care of the kids?! They can make playdates or take the kids out to the park.

[@erickaennis2738]

Story 2. Tell Erin Brochovich to get a job. Op needs to take his kid to daycare. Wife picks him up. Or find someone to carpool. OR OP should deduct the charges from the wife's allowance and pay the fees. Bet that'll light a fire under her. Cut her fun money. These new SAHMs are awful. I think they just use the kids as an excuse not to work.

[@MizTameRumors]

How is she late picking their son up every day when she's a SAHM? Wtf is she doing? And why can't she afford the fee if she gets $800 just to herself? Wtf is she doing with money?

[@Arylwren1]

she not even a SAHM, the kid isn;t at home all day.

[@Shimonotoki]

Honestly OP sounds a bit like a doormat. Why does he accept her excuses in the first place?

[@devegas4910]

Story 1: NTA. John and the other adults sexualized a minor and bullied her because of it and behind OP’s back. If they had legitimate concerns, they should’ve brought it up to op and hubby. Story 2: NTA. She’s constantly late on purpose. Take away from her allowance and make her get a job.

[@paulinadeboer3604]

If he gives her the allowens he can just take away that portion for the bill. She gets 800 a month bloody hell, thats a lot for someone who does nothing.

[@ImaNerdANDaGeek]

She wouldn't be able to hold down a job, if she can even get one. Showing up to an job interview more than 10 minutes late does not look good, and by the third workday they will realize her excuses are bullshit.

[@dancingchaos168]

The last story so he based his decision to stop on if she blew up or not? Solid parent logic I’ll just keep doing it until my kid can’t take it anymore then act hurt and it’s there fault ( slight projection on the end of that comment lol)

[@devegas4910]

@@ImaNerdANDaGeek she’s probably cheating

[@muppetsrule1143]

I do not understand why people find chronic lateness being "cute and endearing". I find it selfish and rude. There is no excuse for constantly being late and don't come at me for things like ADHD. I have ADHD and can still be on time for things because I set a bunch of alarms and plan ahead of time.

[@veezopolis]

The OP is the AH for ever finding it cute

[@nemanjajovanov]

I consider myself a tardy person but this level of irresponsibility is simply mind-boggling.

[@lynprincevalli5221]

Seriously! My sister was late once to pick up her son. Lost track of time being dumb. His teacher dropped him home to my Mother. When my sister got home she was reemed out by every member of the family! That was the first and last time she ever did that!

[@unholyheretik]

Okay, how about I have brain damage and forget things literally the moment they happen? In fact, if a plan is not sent to me in the text immediately (which half of my family refuses to do), it will be forgotten. Is that not okay because it's selfish and rude of me to have drowned as a child? If so, I'll pack my bags and leave; I don't wanna be in this world anymore. There are excuses for almost everything short of the most heinous crimes, acting like there isn't is, slightly ableist. So maybe consider that.

[@vampire9545]

Just because YOUR ADHD doesn't drastically impede your life doesn't mean others aren't. Get more therapy for your ur issues. And no I'm not defending the wife, I'm attacking you for your stupidity

[@jenniferanderson7010]

Bird business: Why can't one brother do the books and the other do the bits he's good at? Sometimes you need both strengths to run it well. I don't get it.

[@GMAMEC]

This!

[@Kayenne54]

I agree. Older brother does well with the actual birds and people. Younger can stay behind the scenes and make sure business ideas etc. are promoted or actualized and never runs into the red. Sounds ideal. Trouble is, humans generally go either/or, black/white, instead of compromise it ends up as "competition", which is destructive of all business anyway.

[@natashamwangi4890]

right? But OP didn't want that. He wanted everything and his mom is a snaky witch coz as soon as she saw an opportunity to have her son as heir she encouraged the nonsense. I hope a falcon pokes his eyes out

[@hellefur7861]

This. A co ownership, where there only can be mutural agrement on everything, is the best compromise. Big bro doesn't seams to be good at finances, but he has a flair for breeding the birds and to interact with costumers. OP shows his lack of people skills, but maby he is good at finances.

[@natashamwangi4890]

@@hellefur7861 OP said bro has never done anything to ruin the business. The most egregious thing he does is party on his day off

[@coltonalbright7544]

It broke my heart to see him so crushed sounds like "it broke my heart to put that tumor in her head."

[@Shea333-n3k]

Story where the dad is conflicted about which one of his children’s events he should attend: it’s not rocket science. Alternate. Go to your son’s event this time your daughter the next and then keep doing it that way. It’s not that deep.

[@tishjanuary7379]

Exactly. Also if this event for his daughter is something major & not like every other event I think the son would understand if OP attended it. OP just needs to be consistent going forward about being fair to both children.

[@vincentcleaver1925]

You go, Mama Bear!!!

[@user-hr5pc3rt2n]

I think we can guess why she doesn't work. She would never get there on time but this might actually be good training for her.

[@jpbaley2016]

I doubt she would bother to be there on time and would be fired within the week. People, who are chronically late don’t care about anything but themselves. To them everything will still be there “so what if I’m late.” They never once consider anyone else affected because if she doesn’t care, why should they. So no, this witch never gives a thought how her young son feels as he watches all his friends leave, maybe he sees the one child, who was also waiting, as his one parent come swooping in, apologizing profusely that they’re late before picking their child up in a hug. All he sees is, he’s nothing but an afterthought.

[@TheQuantumWave]

She'll learn fast after the divorce is settled because I don't see OP putting up with a useless lump for much longer.

[@veezopolis]

He knew about this habit the entire time. Hes not going anywhere. And single mothers will and always are more late than they used to be ​@TheQuantumWave

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

Story 2: "Pushing too far too fast"? No, this is late coming. It should have been done long before now.

[@drewthistlethwaite8909]

Hana story: yeah him saying he can’t be trusted with a minor child sexually, HE needs to go

[@blix_xo]

He NEVER said that. Did you even read or listen to the post?

[@mamabear1394]

​@@blix_xoWe did

[@beermebro]

@@mamabear1394😂😂😂

[@drewthistlethwaite8909]

@@blix_xo telling a teenage girl to cover up bcz she’s tempting him is admitting he will blame the clothes for assaulting a child.

[@drewthistlethwaite8909]

@@blix_xo like if a teen girl is in skimpy clothes that’s not attractive to me. My brain registers her as a child. I can’t grasp how people can rationalize that.

[@emilycurrent7489]

Story 2: she's not a stay at home mom. She's not a mom. She's a leech.

[@justinenicole3926]

AND DO NOT INVITE THEM BACK EVER!

[@Clyde-S-Wilcox]

Story 2: People who are habitually late like this are inconsiderate control freaks.

[@poppy6271]

Someone needs to check John’s hard drive. Can we please stop making it the responsibility of children to control the perverse and inappropriate thoughts of grown men. He and all the other adults there decided that they would throw YOUR child out of YOUR home to appease the pervert and make sure he wasn’t uncomfortable…. Parents with daughters of their own decided to shame a child… not one of them is redeemable. You can make new friends. Better friends.

[@michawilliams1521]

1st story: it's so refreshing to hear a parent sticking up for a good kid just being a teen. Good on Op. As a single dad I too kinda took in one of my sons friends. Although the mom didn't have substance issues she just worked a lot. The kid 12 was at my house sometimes 4 to 5 days a week. I fed him helped him with homework and just tried to be a good parental figure. I've had neighbors ask who he was and I'd just look at them and say, WHY? I'd say, if you can why not. He was a good well mannered kid. I too would have thrown them out as well.

[@margarethorrall8621]

You're trying to make the most of your time together by setting out to push your daughter's buttons and piss her off? Yeah, that should work.

[@susankaempfer8427]

Yeah, I thought this was hilarious. “I need to cram in as much irritating behavior as possible in before she escapes my clutches!” 😆

[@thechapLen]

Story 2: This is what happens when everyone laughs at something that is actually a real problem. If your quirky thing is something that real adults will have serious consequences for then it’s not a quirk. OP sucks for never addressing this with his wife until there were monetary consequences.

[@maurer3d]

Story 2: Wait she is a stay at home mom? WTF is your kid in daycare? NTA, your wife needs to realize she is not the main character of Earth... If she causes late pickup fees, she has to pay them out of her fun money. She needs to find a way to stop being late, maybe having to spend all her fun money every month like this will help her.

[@akl2k7]

So she can go shopping, hang out with other SAHWs and meet up with her affair partners, of course.

[@greencrazystories]

Thank you for standing up for Hannah and showing her love and support. Your kindness and bravery truly made a difference in her life. Stay strong and keep being the amazing person you are.

[@happybkwrm]

If the girl WAS being inappropriate (victims of SA can be) and the guy was worried, then he should have gone to the hostess/OP.

[@ruthsaunders9507]

Little girls that haven't been taught basic behavior often emulate what's popular and that's often inappropriate. Its up to parents to correct them. Unfortunately these parents all did it the wrong way.

[@minabee369]

​@ruthsaunders9507 All the parents.

[@bgcorporation]

Story 1: Uh, John needs to be investigated. Perhaps his computer and phone needs to be searched, because if a grown ass man is seeing a child in that way, it's concerning. In fact. I'd be concerned with him around any child.

[@rheinhartsilvento2576]

No need to get hysterical about it.

[@PS1DemoDisk]

@@rheinhartsilvento2576nah let him talk, if a grown man can't control himself enough to the point he feels he has to kick out someone's else's child then absolutely check his harddrive

[@tricorvus2673]

100%

[@1COMIXMAN]

Dude perved on an underage girl and she's the one to blame? Yeah seems that's a him issue not hers. I foresee his wife yelling at his daughter for her friends wearing shorts and walking by him. Or wearing a one piece swimsuit but because he's a perv it's their fault. When their kids ask why they aren't going to the lake anymore I hope op tells them the truth.

[@MizTameRumors]

'trying to make the most of my time with my daughter by..... talking to her like a baby which OP knows annoys her' ....OP. Stop it.

[@paden1865able]

When you are a guest in the home of someone else, you don't mistreat another guest. Should you go ahead and do that, expect to be told to gtfo. Fafo, you won't like the consequences.

[@lorilancaster5917]

And of course John waited until they were getting kicked out to try and explain himself. No dude, you should’ve expressed your concerns sooner and to OP and not harass a child.

[@zombiechicken7114]

If John can't control himself around children and blames them for exciting him he needs help. Glad op did the right thing.

[@miss_mish]

You organised a coup and your brother got ousted. I hope he moves on from you, the family and the company.

[@lizzykayOT7]

I still can't get over an adult man watching a kid dancing. What in the Lolita fantasy? That he felt free to blame this girl and the others didn't kick his gross ass is madness and gross.

[@Statutum]

Exactly, that man was thinking some wicked thoughts and took them out on her.

[@kegsyk8499]

its so refreshing to have a story in which someone has a spine and

[@b.c.9358]

Story 1: why didn't John go to OP privately and say, "I don't want my daughters to see the way Hannah dresses, I am leaving?" Why does he blame a 14 year old for dressing inappropriately? Why is the unrelated grown man's reaction to a child the responsibility of the child? Why is he talking to a child about the way she is dressing instead of the adult guardian? I would never let my daughter or any of her friends around John again.

[@user-kl8lo6rj5i]

He does seem pervy. Young kids like that don't even think in terms of adult men looking at them that way until they have been abused. Now this kid has had that experience. Nice going John and co.

[@mrsw2923]

Story 4. Shame on you for refusing to change your personality to suit your daughter’s mood. 2 children. 5 foster kids and seven grandchildren. I still talk how I want to. PERIOD.

[@ellenblevins6512]

Story 1. U go momma bear! That poor girl needs u in her corner. Ur friends super suck! Shame on them for bullying that poor girl.

[@SeasonedCitizen]

First story. Men need to stop blaming and shaming the females! If we can learn self-control, so can you. My name isn't Eve, and I'm not responsible for original sin!

[@juliearmfield2634]

Yeah but a lot of females are getting out of control having daddy issues using sex and their sexuality to get what they want and play with boys. Girls have to learn how to protect themselves and lower the risk because let's face it there are bad people out there. And yeah they may be in the wrong but that's still not going to stop the female from getting hurt

[@uwetheiss970]

Why is it men and females? Are you that invested in incel-talk? Stay with men and women or male and female.

[@joeschmo622]

Wow, The Opie who stole the business right out from The Stepbrother's nose is some piece of... work.

[@lorilancaster5917]

And while after hours, OPs brother’s life is a mess but he even said that he it doesn’t impact his work ethic. I’m also curious to know if anyone has talked to him about their concerns or expressed the possibility of not transferring the business to him? From what I got in the story, everyone gossiped about him and made decisions behind closed doors.

[@Eppon6]

That entire story is just awful. It's their father's company. BOTH of them are equally eligible to inherit it. Why does only ONE person get to inherit it 100% and why was their first intention to give it to the eldest son alone? They could both inherit half and run it together. They sound like they can work together well and the brother is an asset in the workforce, just a mess off the clock. Also they both seem passionate about continuing the business. Sure, it comes with a risk of forcing a buyout/sale if they ever have a major falling out, but so does it come with the risk of one of them getting the business entirely and it destroying their sibling bonds, as well as running the risk of one of them running the business into the ground.

[@joeschmo622]

@@Eppon6 And you can bed The Stepbrother who was iced out might one day be asked to "help save the business" only he has zero interest in doing that.

[@nerdygeekgamer5528]

If it was me I'd be like BRO mom and dad are reconsidering you taking over the family business and if he asked why I'd be like well they're very concerned with how you act when not on the clock one you party and drink a lot and two you spend your whole paycheck within two days I don't want to see you get disinherited so maybe you should rethink your life choices outside of work I would encourage him to get his fast and lose lifestyle under control and hopefully hearing from his sibling that mom and dad want to possibly take the family business fully away from him might help him see the light

[@joeschmo622]

@@nerdygeekgamer5528 The POS *wanted* to swipe the business away from The Stepbrother. That's why he "convinced" The Parents to switch over the inheritance to him.

[@dharma6481]

S1. Your “friends”, guests in your house, decide they can kick another guest (your child’s friend) out of your house? None of them would ever return. Additionally, an adult man was feeling uncomfortable because teens were dancing. That man would never be anywhere near me and my kids again.

[@Clyde-S-Wilcox]

Story 1: Ffs if you don't kick someone out for gang-bullying a child where's the line???

[@joeschmo622]

The Last Opie got his fee-fees hurt.

[@peterhobson3262]

That was a big oopsy-woopsy!

[@podelus]

Last story: SHE ASKED YOU TO STOP!! Why is that so hard to understand? It might not be disrespectful the 1st time (although that’s debatable), but it most definitely is once she’s asked you to stop and you keep doing it. I wouldn’t talk to you either.

[@bethanyb4478]

Last story: If OP doesn't stop trying to keep Tina "his little girl,"I am very much afraid she will react by trying to prove she's an adult in all the unhealthiest ways. (Drinking, partying, sleeping around. ) This is not because she's immature in general, but because angry people make bad decisions. And when you're trying to assert your independence, you sort of have to make decisions that you know your authority figure would disagree with. Otherwise, what's the point?

[@catherinec4947]

Last commenter for the last story: So yeah, OP's clearly the AH, But... "It's never cute. Not at 8 days not at 8 months and worse at 8 years". Fellas is it wrong to baby talk at... Your baby?

[@Rankinen]

Story 1: I think the most worrisome thing is that being around 'halfnaked' dancing 14 year old child makes John feel things no father of 2 girls should feel.

[@DORITOSTHEGREATANDPOWERFUL]

I never forget the snacky snacks -_-

[@reggiebrown4911]

Your parents should disown you

[@hanoh2904]

It's Best for ops daughter to give Hanna hints and maybe go shopping together. That's what friends are for. It's not ok for a teenager to be half naked and dancing Infront of adults. I'm not victim blaming but there's a place and a time for everything

[@keishaizawesome2836]

Story 1 NTA BRAVO, MAMA BEAR❤👏🏾

[@clwbchbabycakes]

A stay at home parent that sends their child to daycare every day - and can't even be there on time at the end of the day???!! Exactly what was she doing with all this time, every single day.....

[@stirlingarcher7972]

Family business story: YTA this is one of those “I dedicated my entire life to the family business and my douchey parents gave it to my sleazy sibling instead” stories ur it’s from the POV of the sleazy sibling

[@justtowatchvids569]

I don't know man I think we're missing something. It depends on how she was dancing because if she was like twerking or something then yeah I could see people getting upset and not wanting their kids around that

[@daidersanto1867]

Last story: many people have this weird idea that people who raise their voice "went from 0 to 100 without warning" when in reality they were pushed to 60 or 80 and when their normal voice didn't have any effect, shouting is the only way to be heard. "I thought you liked it" "I never said I liked it and always tell you to stop" "But I didn't think you were serious" "And now you are surprised when I shout at you to stop"

[@GiordanDiodato]

Oh screw off and lighten up

[@DragonGoddess18]

Well, that's what happens when people like OP just don't listen to others Daughter doesn't like "baby talk", that's her preference and he needs to respect that. Just because other random people like it, doesn't mean she's required to.

[@lorilancaster5917]

Yeah OP was completely oblivious in this story. She’s asked him to stop but didn’t because only he thought it was cute.

[@vampire9545]

Sounds like u need a snacky snack, you aren't yourself when hungry

[@daidersanto1867]

@@vampire9545 That's it, I'm never coming to KZbin again!

[@RepellentJeff]

Story 2: YTA for seeing exactly who she was for *_years,_* and still thinking this was going to get any better just because she popped out a kid.

[@gailwarnock2764]

Can you get the grandparents to attend your daughters award ceremony so she has someone there ?

[@lalvarez5151]

Story 2-YTA for not making your wife WORK. She is stay at home and the kid is not there? What does she do all day?

[@jayleeson8517]

The story of the dad and the ceremonies, 40 mins overlap is easy leave 20 mins early from one and be 20 mins late for the other and take kid 1 to kid 2 thing, open discussion with both kids about it. Problem solved

[@nemanjajovanov]

Wait, so teleporting is now a thing? How did I miss that?

[@dm9078]

Story one, NTA OI is a champ! Adults bullying a child is disgusting. None of the women stood up for that is just sad as hell! People who are habitually late, are exercising control over the people around them. For all these years, the wife has been telling OP that her time matters and his doesn’t. I cannot understand marrying someone like that and then having a child with them.

[@Alice15210]

I used to be the woman in story 2 😂😂😂 well i still am in some unimportant things. But how do i make sure i make it in time?? 1. I set early reminders to trick myself. 2. All my assignments?? I put them on diary and put due dates 2-3 days as ge due dates 3. Appointments??? I set a reminder for the appointment 3 hours before.

[@frankhooper7871]

How frequently do people actually think OP's son's dance events are going to coincide with his daughter's events? This will possibly be the only time

[@joimumu]

Agree and Op is on his last chance with his son

[@MrHelicx]

last story nta my dad still does stupid things to me, and I am 33. I was the same way when I was young, and now I look forward to it

[@RepellentJeff]

That’s what I’m saying. And are comments seriously implying that the daughter will stop visiting because of a little stupid baby talk!? There’s “mountain out of a molehill,” then there’s whatever the hell *_that_* is. 🤪

[@veezopolis]

Its not a bad habit to be leaving when youre supposed to be somewhere. Its called being inconsiderate of others time and thinking youre more important than anyone else. Its called being a narcissist.

[@FairyLadyQuelaag]

Last story: While I agree OP is TA, that last commenter was unhinged. Hopefully they don't have children. All parents baby talk their babies. Tho most grow out of it eventually.

[@MMKMoore1]

Story 5 - OP needs to realize that her child has grown up. Babytalk at her daughter's age can be taken as insulting, especially if OP didn't stop it after she was asked to. It's only "for fun" if BOTH people like it. OP is disrespecting her daughter. If she wants to "make the most of their time together", then she needs to listen to her child!

[@MMKMoore1]

Story 1 - The audacity of OP's friends to say those things to OP's daughter's friend directly instead of talking to OP, then to have the rest of the adults gang up to bully a CHILD? And the entitlement to tell this child to leave a place that wasn't theirs? Just because one man couldn't control his urges, erm, "felt uncomfortable" around her!? Good on OP for standing up for her, and (likely) cutting ties with this lot. They certainly found out!

[@fangchick93]

Any adult who bullies a child should not be around children, period

[@maurer3d]

Story 4: You can not make up for neglecting one child, by switching who you neglect. You can't be in two places at once so you will need to skip or miss part of one of them. That said: 1) How many events has your son had the past 12 months and how many did you attend? 2) How many events did your daughter have in the past 12 months and how many did you attend? Lets say your daughter has had 4 events and your son had 12, and you attended all 16 events. In that case you shouldn't miss your daughter's event, if it is the other way around you shouldn't miss your son's. It is about fairness. You are going to be bored at either so do the fair thing.

[@chrischandler4151]

Miss the daughter's event this time and make it clear to both that next time there is a similar clash that he'll go to the daughter's. Then alternate each time, with exceptions for graduations, birthdays, weddings and any event of similar stature. You can't make up for previous neglect, by neglecting the other, so the best solution is to be as fair as possible going forward.

[@theresaschuebel5151]

My 28 year old says snacky snacks all the time when we plan a get together. She asks mom what type of snacky snacks ate you bring to the party

[@kylesullivan4165]

Good for you

[@necilya]

The woman who’s always late. Do not pay for her. Let her deal with it. However she does need help with her issue. She does know how to manage time. That’s something that she can learn. She needs to understand that she has to set an example for her child.

[@valerieromeos2806]

Story 1, a single word. CAMERAS!

[@miss_mish]

Guess what if you go to your daughters, you will probably destroy the last resemblances of a relationship you have with your son. If this is the first time you are actually choosing your son it isn't a hard choice, you've constantly chosen your daughter over him and now you have to choose again and it looks like you will choose her again. When will you choose your son?

[@FrostLordOni]

You don’t make up for years of neglecting your son by neglecting your daughter instead. He’s been making a concerted effort to attend his son’s events, and this is the first event with overlap since he started making an effort. Why not talk it out with both kids? Or make a plan to see both. Go to whoever’s event is first, then after his child has done their dance/gotten their award he dips out early to see the other child’s event

[@miss_mish]

@FrostLordOni I would hardly call missing one event of his daughters neglect, but I'd absolutely call missing years of his sons neglect. Neglect that continues if he can't prioritise his son even once. Prioritising his son just once shows he isn't just words but that his son is a priority also. No one neglect should not replace another, but he absolutely has to start prioritising his son. Hopefully, the choice won't have to be required regularly, and if it does, then you take turns.

[@Symphonia30]

Op should really go to his sons event as opposed to the daughter, it’s only fair. That last comment acts like he needs to be in two places at one, if he could clone himself that would be possible but it’s not.

[@paulinadeboer3604]

How many?? Normal single parents do it him, hers him,hers. So everyone get a turn. It is quite easy. Where is mum in all of this, normal parents split up.

[@solidsnake5782]

In before the "time blindness" crowd

[@SarahTennyo]

Last Story: I'm 35 and my 70+ dad regularly gets attacks of the cuddles when he sees me. My sister claimed to hate them but considering she does the same thing to her kids I think she believes differently now. Little miss all grown up because she's 18 is going to miss that kind of casual, silly affection some day. It comes from a loving place.

[@breezy3392]

"Someday" doesn't change the fact that he is ignoring her wishes now. Just as if she kept doing something he expressly told her not to do, he'd be annoyed, not just at her doing it but also at her ignoring him

[@nemanjajovanov]

Sounds like being annoying and in other people's space got passed down to your sister.

[@LintySourball]

Yay, XO stories

[@ellorasg4525]

Story 1: Cheers to the mom! I applaud you loudly. You might want to keep an eye out for pedo behaviour from the man though just to keep your daughter safe.

[@calliewalsh7058]

Last story - daughter should get a set of toddler dishes and cutlery and give OP the juicy juice in a sippy cup etc. and use a sign song tone like some parents do with toddlers when trying to get them to "talk grown-up" and say "I got the snackie snacks but you don't get them until you can say the right name! Can you say "popcorn"? Sound it out "pop-corn"!" Double down on it girl!

[@kg5626]

I am so grossed out by an adult man blaming a 14yo for his lack of self control. I would have said worse.

[@ann-marimaukonen6805]

The stay at home mother that is always late. Why have the child in daycare if the mother is a stay at home mother? If child is in daycare - mother should get a job too! And it's so disrespectful to always be late.

[@mrsw2923]

Story 3. Glad you stepped in to save the family business. Maybe it would be better to have you both equal owners. So he can’t torpedo the whole thing behind your back.

[@zelousfoxtrot3390]

As someone who has a family member with functional alcoholism that eventually spiraled out of control... call a spade a spade, your brother needs help- and just giving him the family business will enable behaviors that will ruin his life.

[@yamairad1]

Story 1. I can't believe nobody called him a pervert and a predator. That would really be a bad example for the kids.

[@gurglequeen433]

If the wife in the second story isn't cheating, I'll be gobsmacked.

[@GreenKnight1982]

So he's been training in the family business for years yet every other aspect of his life is reckless... what's to say he doesn't take the money from the family business to fund the rest of his Reckless lifestyle and therefore running the family business directly into the ground?

[@joimumu]

Also was the plan that Op get nothing in inheritance or was he meant to get the house or money instead

[@Rj-ij6ko]

Story 2: The absolute AUDACITY that a SAHM with a kid in daycare is asking the WORKING parent “why cant YOU pick up our son”… NTA Op, but your wife is a spoiled brat. Get her back to work

[@pamelalejeune2424]

Daycare story: even if she gets a job, she’ll never be able to keep it. She’ll never be to work on time she’ll get fired so quick.

[@MMKMoore1]

Story 4 - OP is in a hard place. I think he made the right choice. I hope he can find a loving way to explain it to his daughter. They're old enough to know that Dad can't be in two places at the same time, and that it's his son's turn this time. OP also needs to enthusiastically be there for his son, so that he doesn't feel like it's only out of obligation. That would just hurt him more.

[@hagnat]

16:57 Oh man, you didnt read the response righty-right. You made such a big boo-boo D:

[@jgw5491]

S2: Hubby doles out the allowance. He can pay the late fees so that his son can go to date care if they see it as important. Then when it's time for Mom's allowance he can give her the amount less the late fees she incurred. And do that each month there are late fees.🤑

[@kkn9041]

When OP dies or gets hurt the daughter will reminisce about the cutesy talk. But OP should tone it down.