'I KNOW HOW TYSON FURY COULD'VE BEAT OLEKSANDR USYK!'~ CARL FROCH: COUNTERPUNCHED

#carlfroch #tysonfury #oleksandrusyk

[@Martin-lv1xw]

What a crazy argument. Will the crowd fight for him? USYK swept AJ with his crowd in Tottenham.

[@user-hc8jj3zq2x]

Fight Usyk in UKRAINIE. if you’re a BIG MAN

[@Ryuksgelus]

That might be a lil difficult. The whole war thing.

[@bennyred6381]

How many advantages does fury need

[@gymthink6587]

fury has never had the workrate required to hang with Usyk. No crowd will change that. fury needs to start sooner and last longer at his oldest. I wouldn't fancy that.

[@marcust123]

He was outboxing usyk for 7?

[@gymthink6587]

@@marcust123 fury lost the first 3 rounds clearly and was perfectly primed by Usyks fast start to feel like had to put his foot on the gas and yeah 4-7 was fury's while Usyk just kept enough pressure on & provided enough of a target to push furys mind to write cheques his body couldn't cash hence why inevitably slowed down in the 7th and then Usyk upped the workrate and with a strong 8th it was 4 rounds each and then Usyk destroyed him in the 9th and took the rest of the rounds other than maybe the 12th. fury got 5 rounds maximum if you're generous.

[@marcust123]

@@gymthink6587 only 13 punches in it between them that’s called a very close fight

[@gymthink6587]

@theferocious5835 I hear ya, he's not rubbish but he can't set and sustain a pace against a 12 round heavyweight fighter they way people thought he could

[@markmorris7123]

But fury had the chance to fight him at Wembley...He got greedy if ya'll remember.

[@paulwalters5349]

I certainly do

[@jamesfretwell1511]

Greedy Belly😂

[@simonbrandy9662]

Nigel Benn is a prime example of a fighter that was rejuvenated by the crowd.

[@Capitano_Colonia]

Tyson should concentrate more on his own flaws. Less showboating and especially keeping his guard closer. He now got knocked down 8 times in his career. Obviously this kind of defense with hands down and playing around looks good but it causes a lot of damage for him. I don’t think that anyone of his trainers advised him to keep his guard down and being clipped all the time. He should work on that.

[@hoi-polloi1863]

With you on that! Fury has been relying on his colossal vitality and recovery speed, but... there is a bottom to that well, and he's been using it up.

[@billkeaveney1526]

They had talks about Wembley but Fury didn't want it.

[@lancethrust9488]

PAY WOULDNT BE AS GOOD AS SAUDI

[@billkeaveney1526]

@@lancethrust9488 Wembley was never going to happen so Froch is wasting time pretending it's a factor.

[@alvshill]

From the videos I’ve seen where the footage has been taken from the crowd, the atmosphere was excellent. Carl Froch is talking sht. Dereck Chisora said the lack of drunk fans made it even better.

[@alfredokpanachi1847]

Froch,s excuse is lame. And who said Usky won't feed off the crowds energy. He did it in the AJ fights and still won. And this match the atmosphere was much improved than even the AJ nganou or Aj otto fights. The only advantage of Wembley or other venue in the UK would be the judges 😂😂😂😂

[@kingejofeoges2642]

Tyson doesn’t have the cardio to push Usyk back for 12 rounds. That’s what he needed

[@bendybruce]

Would've could've should've..

[@user-sz8km9dy5v]

If butt ? Don’t mean 💩

[@joewhite22]

Usyk is just better. Nothing Fury could have done to change the outcome.

[@user-vy4ty5gd5l]

He could do he had him middle rounds he became complaicant he defo could keep his hands up also

[@Chyeahokay]

He won the first 7 rounds, the. His corner told him he was winning. Usyk was always gonna have a strong finish, but fury could have definitely won

[@4EvarSoul]

​@@user-vy4ty5gd5lIt's easier said then done. Fury was hurting Usyk but Usyk survived the onslaught and showed why he is the chapion

[@inityo]

Nonsense, fury had Usyk shook many times

[@4EvarSoul]

@@inityo Usyk still survived it so what could Fury have done better because he spend all his energy in the middle rounds

[@paulcook7611]

Terrible atmosphere , so quiet . The pre show rapping was horrendous

[@DeeTeaDee]

Soooooo bad. Soooo sooo bad

[@paulwalters5349]

I put it on mute

[@paulnewton3059]

We all know Fury likes a good sing song and Usyk is a little long in the tooth to appreciate that dreadful pre show rap. How long did that go on for and could anyone enjoy it?

[@sean-wh3it]

Usyk will be more comprehensive next time

[@DeeTeaDee]

If you watch that combo Fury was mid way throwing JUST as Usyk started to unleash that left hook. It is so SLOW Fury in round 9 only had the energy to throw combinations that looked like Forman or Joe Joyce. Watch iy back This kind of slow speed leaving yourself open is just NOT gonna be good enough against Usyk in the 9th round. If anyone wants to beat Usyk. You NEED to get rid of him in the first half!!! Fury DID have moments in the middle rounds where he could have pressed Usyk but he never! Probably in fear of blowing a gasket or getting clipped. You need to be fearless and roll the dice with Usyk before the latter rounds come looming Because you have ZERO chance against Usyk in the homestretch! I dont think many heavyweights WILL! Usyk is a poison pill in the division. He is here to remind them all the heavyweights that excess weight KILLS and skills pay the bills!

[@Seeker_Media]

Carl Froch gives the most detached opinions.

[@rachidraji-lm7il]

No crowd could have saved Fury, maybe a Ref or Judge

[@mikhelBrown]

At the moment, NOBODY knows how to BEAT USYK. 😂🤣 💯

[@mrquick6775]

They need to attack his weak section and that’s his core, and have as much stamina and be a knockout artist! All of the top guys are lacking one of the three areas needed to do it! None of them have the cardio, two have the punch bone attack his core. If Deontay had more stamina and knew how to box he could do it. In fact he could have beat Ussyk right after he became heavyweight and before he(Ussyk) acclimated to the weight! It’s too late now and he will retire undefeated!

[@ds1270]

I know exactly how Fury can beat (maybe) Usyk in the rematch ! If he gets in the ring with a Baseball Bat, and bash Usyk's head with it. Maybe can win this way !!! Probably Usyk would still find a way to beat the DOSSER again !!! What a man and a champion is Usyk.

[@davidmcwilliam1897]

If you’re not motivated to fight in the parking lot outside the stadium then you’re not motivated at all. But that’s not what the point, it’s disrespectful to usyk to suggest that fury just didn’t have what he needed, usyk had the better skills and the better strategy for the fight

[@labirrsongwriter8703]

Where is that crowd for Fury?? Usyk is very popular in Britain!!!

[@chriswest2290]

True. Not many support the furys anymore

[@3XXKeturah]

Froch is missing a vital element in his ‘assessment’. He assumes the crowd would have uplifted Fury by their support in an English stadium, but Froch is forgetting that, even in an English stadium, at least as many spectators were supporters of Usyk and deeply despised Fury for his repeated insulting, unsporting behaviour and many embarrassing shenanigans. Most real boxing fans now want to see Fairground Ducker Fury leave the sport altogether and permanently! Let's remember! David Haye beat the Russian giant Valuev and it was no surprise to see Tyson Fury evemtually DUCK Haye. Yes; Haye and Fury had confrontational chats and although their matchup was agreed, Haye had to pull out through injuries twice and Fury, for no (good) reason, then later completely ducked out of it. Fury had a whole plethora of fast, smaller heavyweight contenders to choose from like Povetkin, Bellew and Usyk but the Fairground DUCKER avoided them all to take on several average journeymen like Hammer, Whyte and Chisora instead. Fury had jabbed and run to scrape a points win against forty-year-old Vladimir Klitschko but ducked him in the return knowing Klitschko had figured him out. AJ then stopped Vlad but no way was Fury going to face Joshua! Fury ducked away to take on journeymen again, Otto Wallin, Chisora and Whyte. So, this is the background to the Usyk-Fury fight and Froch is missing the reality that many, perhaps most, would have given uplifting vocal support to Usyk even within an English venue. Furthermore, bear in mind that Usyk has fought repeatedly in stadia foreign to him where his support was minimal and yet he won. Usyk simply doesn’t need or rely on ‘hometown’ support -- as does Froch apparently!

[@jediknight2350]

thats cuz your traitors

[@man-of-the-world]

​@@jediknight2350 And you're a Fury fangurl petal

[@man-of-the-world]

Keturah ... I agree with almost every word you've said. The only thing I'd say is Klitschko took him too lightly in their fight b'cos he thought Fury was a clown. I think Fury knew that too, and Wlad wouldn't mess about in the rematch, which is why the mental illness card got played.

[@rosuzzieagnes124]

Every one has been providing solution to beat uysk however no one has done it successfully

[@paulnewton3059]

As Mike Tyson said when he was at his best "Everyone has a plan to beat me until they get punched in the face". Usyk isn't the devastating puncher that Mike Tyson was but nobody has yet formulated a successful plan to beat him.

[@PassionateSpirit88]

I agree....but both fighters would be at their best at a hyped audience atmosphere

[@demarques1911]

Always remember. Usyk will make adjustments when Fury makes his adjustments.... Usyk is sharper than Fury... For every shot Fury lands.. Uysk will land 2 or 3 to his one shot. That adds up QUICK

[@TradeKingz73]

The fans were loud enough. That is Froch making excuses for a Brit losing. Wonder why no one is telling Fury he should retire like they did when AJ lost to Usyk? B.S! 👎🏻

[@Severloh1944]

A very good point

[@topentine]

Fury would need to slim down and be able to move like he did before the gas tank went off for 12 rounds… you can’t put it on a boxer that moves constantly. Usyk was faster and more elusive with AJ because he knows those muscles will tire soon and AJ’s punches are more devastating than Fury’s uppercut which was not doing much on Usyk. Fury was spending pounds instead of the lowest currency that Usyk brought for the same fight in terms of energy.

[@marcust123]

Usyk was gassed at 4 rounds aswel which was odd

[@topentine]

@@marcust123 you don’t know the meaning of gassed… a fighter was still coming towards you despite the punches in bunches I call that the chin of rock. And that is mentally draining….

[@marcust123]

@@topentine he was gasping for air and breathing heavy he also looked very slow compared to what hes normally like

[@topentine]

@@marcust123 then he went on following Fury like herpes and fell him, technically.

[@marcust123]

@@topentine technically he never

[@user-sb7mb9fd8m]

We're an island nation bro, and we love to fight. We always have for hundreds of years and as soon as the pistol was invented, bang, we was duelling. '10 steps turn and fire old boy haha good luck'. Fukin love it! 😂

[@marklanahan7289]

So there's no support for usyk in the UK?

[@silentterrorhawk]

Most people iv spoke to in Britain wanted usyk to win but admittedly I haven’t spoke to that many people. A lot of fury’s fan base have gone off of him from what I can see.

[@marcust123]

Theres support but compared to fury its small

[@perrysaker1526]

Usyks support is basically online support that hail him as the new Messiah! Not real fans, they just jumped from Joshua to usyk! They would never pay for a ticket to watch him, probably didn't even buy ppv just streamed it or waited for someone to post it on KZbin! Usyk isn't a big seller of fights unless it's someone who's a big draw

[@thenewcamelot8873]

Froch could be right I think Fury does thrive with the big stadiums and British fans

[@topentine]

Point of correction Fury can’t go at that pace. He tried continuing the 4567 rounds uppercuts but gas was finito la musica…

[@richardcole3688]

Why do they like to make excuses for Fury?

[@paulnewton3059]

Because he has such physical advantages over his opponents and people who know little about boxing listen to his foulmouthed boasting and believe it.

[@Draculacount100]

If he's looking for home advantage then he's already lost i mean usyk didn't need to be in the Ukraine so why does tyson need to be at Wembley stadium

[@ade3628]

Both fighters were in the same arena

[@G35149]

I think the only difference Wembly and 90k screaming fans would made is facilitate a different decision on the score cards.

[@markrhoden68]

I have to agree with the atmosphere point but as for Fury nooooo he got beat by the better man now if it were an all British fight with home crowd ok but sorry those Vegas nights boxing of the past we're just epic. "Let's get ready to rumble" brilliant 👏

[@Severloh1944]

If you want to see an intimidating British crowd you want to come to Parkhead or Ibrox on old firm day.

[@warmheartsworldwidecharity8]

He lost because of his training and conditioning which wasn't up to nowhere near the scratch whereas Usyk's training and conditioning was on point... so it has nothing to do with the venue or crowd... Usyk conditioning, style and mindset won him the fight

[@jamesfretwell1511]

Weres that guy who used to spend all his time in the comments defending Fury? He would be on every fury video on KZbin, backing up his hero, whenever he done something wrong.

[@billsheets1]

all Fury had to do was not get caught in the 9th round and he had it.

[@Dowcipas]

So whos falt is it?

[@user-ok5hh7lg2x]

... and risk being knockout... :)

[@antoniotorcoli5740]

With a gun possibly. But it is far from being sure.

[@formandvoid4001]

Usyk would beat Fury anywhere,Anytime. He is a true pro fighter and he will do what he needs to do to win.

[@tonylyons9772]

Well usyk still won in the same building,these people are just making excuses for fury,he’s of lost even if it was in his back garden,i thought fury can adjust on the fly & that’s why he’s also really grate,face is he couldn’t keep up with usyks pace & was out skilled out boxed & just simply the better man End off

[@roythunderplump]

The footage of Tyson Fury conditioning, training drills looks levels below what you can see the world class athlete squads do at English Institute of Sport Sheffield.

[@englishguy9680]

Take the padding out the gloves, eat uncastrated wild board meat, make Usyk wear a ridiculous 40lb black panther/megatron looking costume, put egg weights inside the gloves, and have Andre Dirrell in the crowd for some reason cos he was also at Kronk at one point 🤔

[@KennyB3323]

Fury said he had the beat training camp no problems facts are Usyk is better boxer only thing fury can change is to come in heavy in rematch and take the fight to Usyk but he will Gass and be sluggish won't move well like first fight and Usyk will knock him out this time that's if we have different Reff😊

[@dogpoofairy2517]

Fury could win the rematch. He's at his career best now and Usyk is on the decline. Usyk's style suits a younger man too. Also, I doubt Usyk will be as motivated for a 2nd fight as he's already proved he's better than Fury.

[@naeemislam1105]

Are you ok in the head? Fury is not at his career best now. Usyk isn't either. They're both on the slide. Fury at his career best was 2020 in the wilder rematch or even arguably the klitshcko fight. Usyk was best at cruiserweight

[@Severloh1944]

Maybe if Fury had Ben Davison in his corner. Sure Sugar Hill's tactics worked for Wilder but that style won't work against Usyk

[@dogpoofairy2517]

@@naeemislam1105 Fury's punch resistance is on the decline, but everything else is there. He also punches harder than he did against Wlad and has more experience. This Fury beats that Fury, no doubt about it.

[@thebigsheethouse9965]

Fury looked a million dollars against wilder in the rematch because Wilder is a useless donkey😂

[@Fooknose88]

@@dogpoofairy2517you starting to sound like less of a hater mate

[@alertstillness592]

Sugar kept telling FURY to stay on the front foot and let the hands go. UYSK did what FURY did to Wilder, keep him off the front foot and took FURY's power away.

[@Neimenovan]

It would be even more embarrassing hahaha

[@mateusaurelius2546]

Is the atmosphere worth £40 million!?

[@edarowan7388]

It's possible it was a close fight tyson should have imposed the bigger man he was fighting on the back foot 🙄

[@Marabarra94]

maybe but probably not

[@Halloween1031]

Fury should have just boxed instead of show boating That’s his mistake

[@promo130]

there's no atmosphere in saudi. look at the ring walks, for such a big fight, it was boring. compair with the ring walks in the wilder fights vs fury.

[@macweed3358]

I lost money on kell brooke in that fight (bobby)

[@nicjane8863]

he should have done this he should have done that,,,,,,,,,,sounds like being in a room with professional arm chair boxers,,,,,,,,,you know when your watching a fight with m8s and they start jumping out there seats throwing punches in fresh air saying id just do this id just do that and there all full of shit,,,,,,,,,,tyson fury is tyson fury its not just about what he can and cant do or should or shouldnt do physically its the MENTAL state aswell,,,,,,,,,fury dont have the mental state to be an animal and never has had it,,,,,,mouth is all he has,,,,,,,,,,some trainers say dont fight with anger/agression for its when you loose focus,,,,bullshit some can do it some cant and it makes the difference when they can do it AND do it while staying fully focused,,,,,,,,,,,havent watched fight yet to comment on it still waiting for it to be streamed free,,,,,,,,,,,im a poor january boy lol,,,,,,,,,but told you dont be surprised if usyk drops him and if it goes to points usyk will take it,,,,,,,anyways you cant turn lead into gold just like you cant turn fury into mohamed ali,,,,,,,,,,fury is fury,,,,froch is froch,,,,,,lewis is lewis ect ect,,,,,,,every birth sign does his thing a little different to the others,,,,,,only thing they all have in common is the shit they chat in what should be done and not done,,,,,,,,,every man does his thing different some are limited fury has limitations.......gotta laugh who say fury is on the decline hes always looked like that since an amature,,,,,,,,,,boxers today are lucky theres far fewer of them and it shows by those who have titles today but would never have had them 25 plus year ago.,,,,,Paul aka Ergy

[@8swerve]

they needed alcohol

[@user-hc8jj3zq2x]

Usyk has always fought in other people’s back yard. TRUE. Champion

[@Birmingham_racing]

Neutral venue people need to stop with the excuses

[@vladimirgrbic8325]

Naaah, he could have not...😂

[@user-bz7vv5qk1k]

It did not help aj when he fought usyk.

[@picturemerollin1]

Frochs just jealous he missed out on the Saudi money. He wasn’t even there so what we he know what the atmosphere was like. The way Fury beats Uysk is fight the Kronk style in the middle of the ring and never let his Dad anywhere near his camps and listen to Sugar Hill.

[@ckpotu]

It must not be at Wembley for Fury to win..Usyk is a better boxer...

[@alextoader2880]

This discussion is irrelevant now for the next fight as Usyk is the champ and he wont go to the UK. If anywhere, Fury might have to go to Ukraine! The champ is the A story!

[@alextoader2880]

Why are we talking about how Fury can get an advantage in the unification and lineal? This is not right! Why not have the fight in Ukr? The question is not how to help the loser but the question is who is better in equal conditions.

[@talmacgroup7836]

Usyk will beat fury in any conner of the world, even in fury mom's kitchen.

[@scraggs11]

Atmosphere was 💩 in Saudi and they pump fake sounds out.

[@user-uy2dp1dh4h]

The point of the matter and why i disagree with all the Usyk band wagon fans is, Usyk fought the same fight Wilder fought, is just that he got fury in trouble in the 9th instead of the 10th. Same fight as Wilder vs Fury1 and that was called a draw. Face it, just because youll dont like gypsy king doesnt mean you cant discern the fight objectively. To me it was a draw. Usyk couldnt finish fury and left doubt on the table. Fighting for thr undisputed king of the heavys, you better leave no doubt or you will get challanged. That the nature of the beast. Hell even the lighter division are doing it more convincingly for their undispited titles.

[@inityo]

Hard disagree

[@shaman2762]

stupid thing to say- no body likes fury-no matter the stadium !!

[@jamesfretwell1511]

I think carl is talking nonsense. Usyks just better than Fury imho, and will probably win more convincingly next time.

[@marcust123]

Very close fight only 13 punches in it

[@saintdon4461]

when fury gave him a stiff upper, fury should have jumped on him as he was visibly rocked

[@Lee-fc3yf]

Yes because Usyk doesn't know how to adjust and would have just stood there :).

[@hiyadroogs]

Surprised, rather than stunned. A momentary pause in Usyk's pressure. Fury was definitely stunned

[@TradeKingz73]

Usyk wasn't rocked, just stopped in his tracks. Not only that Fury doesn't hit hard, so that wouldn't have worked & may have backfired. Now if AJ fought Usyk with him recently reverting back to being a nightmare in the ring, AJ could KO Usyk instead of Boxing the Boxer like he did. I don't see Fury winning the rematch no matter what he does.🥊

[@dogpoofairy2517]

Usyk should've gone head hunting earlier in the fight and knocked Fury out.

[@saintdon4461]

@@TradeKingz73 haha he was rocked you loon...he thought he broke his jaw and afterwards he said he felt smashed up lol

[@rickyjohn8231]

Kurt has fury in he's mouth every day. Anyone would think fury won the fight

[@paulduke4499]

Ward schooled froch. What did he froch done.? Carl froch has a lot to say this days

[@paulnewton3059]

Andre Ward was phenomenal and Carl Froch was far from disgraced when they met. Froch is an ex world champion so yes we listen to what he has to say because he talks sense and is entertaining.

[@christopherstamp5946]

Fury lost because of the song of the crowd. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ What a load of crock. Let’s stop making excuses for Luke. It was the best version of him ever and he lost, Stop trying to discredit Usyk, Fury was pure hype job and the people who fell for it are digging to find excuses.

[@user-sz8km9dy5v]

Carl stop 🛑 chatting 💩

[@naeemislam1105]

Lame excuses. Did he need the crowd in Germany against klitshcko? no

[@mrkaosboxinguk1054]

Englishman always come with some lame excuse my god you make me embarrassed to British sometimes

[@saintdon4461]

yep usyk won first two rounds where nothing happened..cheap rounds..then fury dominated usyk up until 7th..fury getting caught and taking a round to recover cost him the fight

[@Lee-fc3yf]

Usyk won the first three rounds by doing what we call boxing and landing, you know where points are scored...not pulling faces. Then he lost every round after the 6th including the absolutely beat down where the ref saved Fury. Face it Fury was smashed to pieces....Happy New Year.

[@adamthedude9655]

You need to stick to watching the saints getting beat boxing isn’t for you

[@saintdon4461]

@@adamthedude9655 your anti fury bias might convince yourselves but not me and the official judges

[@Severloh1944]

Usyk took centre ring, pushed Fury back and dominated. Fury's limited success came from hiding behind his jab and setting traps. If Fury didn't do that it would of been over sooner. As it was, Usyk took Fury into deep water and drowned him with his work rate

[@saintdon4461]

@@Lee-fc3yf he won the first two you mean.. tapping.. like he was at the olympics..so not disputing he won them but they barely winning the rounds as they cheap..and no fury won 4,5,6,7 and 12th convincingly ..to deny that proves your biased

[@Frank-hn3yj]

Fury will beat him second time round. More weight on and stop fucking about showboating boating and get rid of John

[@ODWYER1626]

Usyk will beat him much easier in the rematch because now usyk knows that he can ko fury. Usyk beat everyone in there own back yard

[@KandJHorrordotcom]

Fury can beat this guy easily. Take the fight to him. Make him stay on the back foot the entire time and you’re gonna win. Watch and see it’ll be easier than Muhammad Ali taking the belt back from Spinx. It’ll be easier than Lewis taking the belt back from McCall. I can’t wait.

[@Bigtuff123]

Easier said then done, fury doesn’t have the tank to pressure usyk for the whole fight

[@KandJHorrordotcom]

@@Bigtuff123 yeah good point. I’m watching the fight right this second. I still have Fury in the rematch guaranteed. I’m not sure he lost the first one. I think it should’ve been a majority draw.