I'll AVOID these GENETICS

[@jakelooter5139]

blue dream is an outdoor strain for getting pounds per plant not an indoor strain

[@Oscar-gq4ro]

The worst feeling is when you buy an expensive pack of seeds because it’s got a funny name then read a bunch of hermie reports when you’re halfway through veg(looking at you exotic genetics)

[@24-7flounderproblem]

Amen ❤

[@CaliburCaliente]

Cough cough.. Inhouse..Solfire

[@91750fast]

only buy direct from reputable breeders. Mean Gene, Humboldt CSI, Skunktek etc. You're gonna pay 150-200 a pack but every seed is a keeper.

[@hellboy88888]

​@@91750fastevery seed? Hardly.

[@BecauseEyeGotHigh207]

​@@hellboy88888😂 I doubt he's actually bought seeds from a "reputable" breeder... And honestly what kind of "breeder" wants to turn profit instead of getting good meds into people's hands 🤷

[@mishaguevara]

For you Blue Dream is a boring strain. We have been growing Blue Dream for years here in Zimbabwe. We have crossed it with Malawi Gold and also another line with Swazi Gold. It gives the Biggest, strongest plants that get 5meters of height. Massive root stock and loads of branches. So my point is, for Breeding...Blue Dream is a Monster genetic❤ ❤

[@chaseD707]

Blue dream is an amazing strain! We grew nothing but blue dream out in Humboldt county for like three years straight because it grew so good outdoor. We had some 7 to 8 pound massive plants. The only reason it gets a bad name here in the states is because it was over grown and that’s all you could get for a few years so now people are just tired of it but regardless, amazing cross. We need to get our hands on some of that pure durban poison you guys have

[@Oscar-gq4ro]

I said it grows great, just smokes basic 🤷‍♂️ I’ve got stuff with blue dream parents in both of my tents so yeah good breeder too, hsc’s blueberry cupcake is very tasty and is descended from BD, my homie’s blueberry diesel got BD somewhere back in the lineage too and is also great stuff.

[@jackjeterjr7312]

Don't know what any of you are smoking the blue dream I had was almost impossible to smoke intense body high super stank very dark.

[@brentwhitis4701]

Send samples

[@timothykappel198]

Proper blue dream is good but it's one of those strains like zkittlez that has been reproduced so many times that most have never had the real thing

[@jbingham4879]

Cookies overcharges everything wouldn’t surprise me if all the beans they got are trash

[@DieselCheese]

In my opinion most strains are overhyped or to say it better: most strains don't depend on what they really are, but what the makers/sellers want people to believe and try to induce feelings and opinions by making up fancy names that somehow makes one create a concept of taste or flavour in ones mind, along with nice "soft touch" packaging and other subtle elements of marketing. The thing with cannabis is that it simply has no definable scent or flavour and basically you can smell a huge variety of possible scents just from one bud, try it out and put some adjective in your mind that you want to smell and then smell a bud and try to "find" what you thought of. Of cause it's different when smelling a haze or a kush and so on but try it out with a few buds and you know what I mean.

[@normagee]

well said , Beans should be sensibly priced & $10 is a good price also selling individual beans or 3 packs would be cool . Fair for breeders & they can make a good profit still & good for us the customer 😎

[@yep5689]

So who is selling beans for 10 dollars each in 3 packs

[@WheelgunsOnWheels]

Right on. A hundred bucks for 10 plus a bonus 10 for free is perfectly reasonable to me at 5 bucks a bean.

[@MR-puffnstuff]

Five bucks a piece at the most ten bucks is way way to high.

[@danielalvarez5651]

Lol. Many seeds for a budget out there. Look around. Ive seen beans in $1, $2, and $5 sections on some sites. Truenorth always has 60% off clearance section.

[@shawnlavertu7724]

I grabbed a humboldt gelenade x BB cupcake for $5 each off North Atlantic seed co in May. And 2 free ethos for my ethos multipack order too.

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

As far as the beans are concerned yeah they shouldn't be over $20 a seed

[@BusterBlendz]

I definitely agree with you on the seed prices . As a new grower it was hard finding the legit seed banks that have good strains that aren’t forcing you to buy a $100 5 pack . Cookies in my opinion isn’t worth the hype. It’s good but if I’m paying top dollar I want some gassy sour Burnt rubber strains (old school sour diesel ) started off with Barney’s farm due to it’s a house hold name in the cannabis world and they let you buy single seeds which is good for me as a beginner looking for strains I like . Shortly after I came across fast buds and I fell in love with their strains to the point I almost have one of every strain . Todays the day for my first harvest and I have to say I love photos better . Autos have amazing strains but I like the control over making sure I have a nice size plant and can keep the strain with clones .

[@coolvanilla300c9]

There's a website that cookies and some others sell clones on, some of which are 1500 and $2,000. I've grown out a couple things from that site, some of the guys from the local grow shop will buy them turn them into mothers and give everybody cuts.

[@lm1995.]

can you pass me theyr ig???what price they do?

[@Bw_Dubb]

King Kong klones

[@Bw_Dubb]

Chitown seeds

[@618grow]

​@Bw_Dubb I got my blueberry pancakes 5 pack from chitownseeds and my last run of Hella Jelly...super fast shipping like 2 days

[@randygreen6652]

Strainly😂

[@Twistsayin]

I just recently discovered one that is a beast it’s Kona gold or Hawaiian staycation I have had them reach 10 ft as an auto flower and it was in a 20 gallon pot outdoors it had a root the size of a big straw that was coiled up like a snake it searches out water the full photo period was topped once and had 18 main colas and it reached nearly 17 ft tall and it has an amazing pineapple taste next year i and going to shoot for 20 ft it wasn’t the best year in Va this year plus it has many crazy leaf mutations plus it has a sap mutation where resin drops appear throughout the buds it’s pretty sick but lineage is white runtz/jet fuel gelato/Hawaiian staycation pollenated by Kona gold

[@kr38tve]

I smoked The Grape Ape with Kyle Kushman about a month and a half ago. Video on my channel. The Grape Ape was very tasty and had strong effects. Grown by Kyle Kushman

[@TheObserver3]

If it's all the hype it's probably just hyped up. Only suckers buy expensive beans.

[@Crobar808]

I lived on Maui for a long time, from my experience (as a grower there) there was no specific strain that could claim that name, it was a general term for outdoor there, there are places there that are perfect for cultivating, but that’s not to say somebody hasn’t marketed in recent times

[@bovineexcrement8635]

That's like Matanusca Thunder F**k or Alaska Thunderf**k... me I'm crossing them AK with HI...haha 😄

[@ATripp-dm9rg]

I agree that cookies is over priced, but from a breeders perspective you have to look at the R and D of a properly bred cultivar. The seed market is oversaturated because of (as you mentioned) the number of seeds per plant/grow as well as the number of new breeders in the market. If you personally spent 3 or four generations of intense thousand plus pheno hunts developing a cultivar, you are going to have a floor price that you are willing to make TOTAL. If a cultivar has hype at all behind it, you have to get it while the hype is alive and before the early adopters snipe your market with clones that you bred. If you spent $25,000 and 2 years creating a genetic superstar, you have to sell 2,5000 seeds for $10/pop to break even without accounting for your own time and knowledgen blood sweat and tears. And you already know that after your first drop your market crashes. Now imagine doing all that without the hype and marketing of cookies. Now imagine you have to sell those seeds for 2$ apiece to a reputable seed bank to carry your gear. As a breeder myself, I don't think there should be an upper limit on seeds. If the market supports you, get whatever you can. Especially on first drops as a reputable breeder. Cheeseburgers are more than $10 these days.

[@benayers8622]

and this is why the corporate fools were wrong to think they could buy into such a lucrative market. People perfected strains over decades out of pure love for the plant... No 1000 seed bulk dna marker test can come close to humans actually testing stuff out like they used to. Now its 30%thc tick 0%cbd tick then marketing rushes em out the door ready for the monthly hype release to keep all the dummies n younguns who havent had a good role model hooked! Terrible shame. Legalization could well be responsible for the death of the art of breeding. Dont get me started on marrowstemming or lab grade hormones either! Currently smokin some money maker and got uk cheese and original lemon skunk (not haze this is indica, add super silver to make superlemonhaze) all older balanced strains with lovely reliable stable effect profiles that feel just right cos its based on genuine human opinion and not daft numbers on a screen. I can add pure thc to any bud and bump it up to way over 30% natural levels but it's pointless because thats not how good strains are measured! Its all about balance..

[@AriAdu]

I like blue dream. Hell Im smoking it now. But he's right, makes you sleepy

[@Lance7259]

Love these episodes! Always keeping it real! Truth and harsh honesty that our industry needs more of! Love it bro!

[@Pigeons420]

Thank you. Appreciate your kind words. 👊🏼thanks for watching!

[@michaeleshbaugh6797]

​@@Pigeons420love your content bro do like I just started doing and buy the expensive strains you want to grow in the future an make s1 strains of them not as hard as you would think I did it with Glookies and got 1000 beans of my harvest well worth the money spent on the good genetics let the breeders do all the hard work stabilizing then just duplicate wut they have 😂

[@CaliburCaliente]

You should do a video putting cultivators on blast...every other week untested seeds are being sold for a crazy price...once they flower they turn hermie 80% of the time

[@fullmeltxtractions]

Be real though. There's a lot of people who mess up in their grow, and then blame the breeder for herms that they probably caused themselves...

[@dennisrichards2604]

I remember specifically when the GG#4 was just coming up, Id see "Seed Co.'s" with like 30 diff GG#4 crosses that in no way have been tested, cuz the GG4 was only months on the market.

[@maneiloveyall3672]

​@@fullmeltxtractionshell yeah these garbage growers blaming the breeders, mane that's real.

[@dmo848]

I been only messing with seedsman cause they got cheap beans n they give your allot of free beans. No issues either with them. Great company

[@cannafarmer]

Yea I had some bad beans from seedsman and they let me pick my replacement beans and I had them in a week from my complaint. They are good

[@jm12green31]

Seedsman blows

[@KaotikImpulse]

​@@jm12green31opinions are like a*sholes.

[@diezelvh4133]

​@@jm12green31 so does your dad.

[@SamPedroCactus]

Best blueberry plant I ever had came from a seedsman pack. Also bought a few packs of "sugar haze" and got nothing but trash.

[@jefferyjackson]

Thanks for the run down. Will be growing Maui Wowie on my next run with other long flower strains, up to 4 so far looking for some others to throw in the mix.

[@Charlie-zj3hw]

Great job on setting your camera up correctly the lighting and everything else is absolutely perfect.. so so so so so so many KZbinrs have no clue how to make their videos look good

[@briangonzalez1541]

I'm basically new to everything then lol I mean I've been burning since my early teens. I'm now in my late 30's, turns out I've been missing out on some really good stuff out there. It's good to know what to avoid and whom to avoid. I also started my first grow and just bought four beans this morning. My very first bean purchase! Jeeze they're very expensive!! Great content man. Very knowledgeable. Thank you for sharing your craft. I just subscribed.

[@Pigeons420]

Appreciate the love and kind comment but of course this is just my opinion and I would suggest that anyone starting out avoid something that’s been calling them for awhile. I had to learn this and I think others should too. Who knows you might love some of these. Thanks for the sub welcome to the journey!! 👊🏼

[@gbp3616]

Ive never smoked a Blue Dream pheno that ive liked

[@bmungerwash1979]

Blue dream is trash

[@REDNECKROOTS]

You ain't ever had real blue dream then. The original cut was a 11 ta 12 week bloom awesome terps , awesome high, flavor for days. All the blue dream knockoffs are garbage in comparison.

[@kennethhecht3354]

Lucid blue is good and is a blue dream with great breath.

[@bmungerwash1979]

@@REDNECKROOTS it jus ain't NEVER dun nuthin 4 me!!💯 no point n getn hyped up bout it!! It ain't bout nuthin!! There's a such thing as preference

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

Only in California have I had good blue dream

[@Who_hack_here]

blue stain is perfect for me actual only one that can take care of my multiple health symptoms and diagnosis. Unlikely any other strains. I have tried approximately 130 strains. Only this particular strain works for me. Not all blue dream are the same. Unfortunately I can’t grow myself due to health reason and need stable grower for me. How? I understand everyone is not the same. For me it’s mild mellow unlikely others. Lot out there I can’t handle. And this one took care of my mile long health issues from bed ridden to walk again, talk again, sit normal again, do many things that I couldn’t for so many years. Without that for 6 months I go down hill real bad look like s*** once I have that access again and I’m back up again. Something about that particular strain. I have many of rare health diagnosis include genetic. Hmm I need help

[@scorpioslab]

Id say it was just a weak pheno with the Grape Ape.

[@kevindelray1094]

I am 100% sure I'll take flack for this, but I find the standard $10 to $15 a bean to be barely acceptable. Anything, and I mean anything, over that is a 100% non-starter. I can pheno hunt the standard beans to find the fire that I seek. Anyone charging more than that is just a modern day PT Barnum, and anyone paying it is just stupid. Sadly, the charlatans who charge those prices are only able to do so because there are suckers out there who don't want to do the work and just want to buy their way into success. I'm avoiding naming names, but we can all think of breeders who charge stupid money per bean, and at least a couple who openly admit that they charge the prices that they do because people keep paying the asking price (and then in same breath use the fact that people pay their prices as a sign of their "quality".) Frankly, that kind of bravado is just a turn-off to me, and does nothing for me except to validate my decision to shun the purveyors as nothing more than snake oil sales people. While it is certainly possible to purchase fine consumer goods like watches, cars or whatever, those things are exactly that consumer goods that are finished goods. When talking about things like beans, purchasing good genetics is only the start. It's up to the individual practitioner, or dare I say it, artist, to turn them into a finished product. THAT kind of quality is only possible through hard work, perseverance, and the constant honing of ones skill and craft. Anyone who has gone down even a little bit of that path will already know that greatness can be found in the much less expensive alternatives (to a point, finding fire a bag bean is possible, but it's more luck than anything else.) Focus on being the best grower you can be. Do the work. There will be ups and there will be downs, but stick with it. You will get there. When you are "there", maybe then dabble with the stupidly priced genetics, and see if you can call the fire that the breeders claim is there, but until then, be more humble and call your fire from more down to earth kinds of genetics.

[@slimbroco572]

Honestly man, you should do more of these or just talk about strains themselves. Even after 4 years I'm still learning. Knowing strains,even for a beginner is important to know especially for how long they take or even the effects. Now it all hits us different but most of the time if ppl are smokers,we all feel the same effect.

[@WindsweptDragon]

with you on the 10 price cap, more is just greed

[@WindsweptDragon]

@@ev25zv No, Id spend 10 on decent genetics during a sale and grow my own, 20 a g is a rip off too. Prices were expensive because it was prohibited now prices should be much more in line with any other legal seed/crop

[@GSCEPT12]

I think you need to have a talk with Chris. $150 a pack? I love all 3 of yall and would love to support, but I can't afford $150 a pack. Unless it came with a FTS hat and hoddie 😅😊😉. Great episode 🤙 cheers.

[@jimvigil332]

100%

[@BC_BUD_420]

Hi P, Chilliwack here. Another great Vid. Keep up the good work, I agree 10$ a bean is too much.

[@schtauffen-plays]

dang mowie wowie and blue dream are 2/4 are i picked to try first. how many beans do you typically pop from each pack to give it a good go?

[@Pigeons420]

2-4 roughly each time. And of course males happen 👊🏼

[@malmoran8643]

Do you just run them once or clone and try again ? Are you confident you have her completely dialled in on the first and only run ? For me it takes at least 3 runs to get her completely dialled in and than I can decide wether to keep her as a mother or not.

[@Mikey-rj1lr]

Doesn't mean you won't do good but they are longer flowering streams

[@benjiedrollinger990]

I used to get Speedy Weedy from a lady in Seattle it came down from Canada with the Hell’s Angels. It was a Sativa with tight small bright green small buds and beautiful red hairs woven in. Man I miss the Speedy Weedy! 😢😅😢

[@bearfamilycanna]

I won't grow anything with a ridiculous name or anything that replaces an S with a Z. Just can't do it 🤷‍♂️

[@WheelgunsOnWheels]

Agreed

[@93deeluxxx34]

Crazy lol.

[@Willie-C]

Pretty sure the z started is to avoid any copyright issues ... but yeah ppl get stupid with it lol

[@BigBadWolf_357]

So no Zoap or Zkittles?? U missing out

[@STSKSP]

Week 2 of flower in my first grow. I hadent found all the good comunity info before I got my first bean. I wound up with a Cookies Velvet Cream auto. Its been pretty interesting.

[@danhirst7372]

Northern lights is a 8 week flowering strain bro. Its ertainly nowhere near 12 week. 10 weeks max

[@diezelvh4133]

My authentic NL#1 is 7 weeks.

[@robertforte3085]

Proud to see you hit 100k! Keep up the content and the movement!

[@xIMxMCLOVINx]

Looking fresh big dog! Like the new studio

[@jm12green31]

Check out some white label seeds from North Atlantic seed company, I've had a few that are better than name brand ethos and Barney's

[@legacyAF]

They are name brand, just packaged generically.

[@FranklyRich]

I'd recommend trying White Nightmare for that spark of creativity

[@GAslim]

Congrats on 100K DUDE

[@MikkoMarkusKaariainen9023]

Another MASTERPIECE and awesome point! Greetings from Finland!

[@fullmeltxtractions]

People tie their hopes too much to one particular seed, or even one pack of beans. From the sounds of it, the first three of these made the list only because of your personal grow experience involving only a single cultivar, or at most a single pack of seeds. Particularly with Grape Ape, it sounds like you got a loser pheno/pack and judged the strain a loser on that basis alone. There's a reason for all the hype behind that strain, a good cut of it is absolutely fire. But I have tried subpar ones as well. To be fair, you threw at least a couple caveats in there of; This is my experience with this particular cut, etc... so it's not like you didn't acknowledge that at all. But at the same time the video almost feels like it should have been titled "Cultivars that didn't pan out for me" (Plus, one producer I feel is overhyped) The truth is with darn near any cultivar, if you pop enough seeds you're more than likely eventually going to find something you like. Even though it's a ridiculously larger amount of work, that's kind of the appeal of running a huge facility where you can pop 100 seeds of every strain. You can just about bet you're going to find a really good one out of every variety if you're popping that many. That's literally the story of how Cinderella 99 was found. Puts you in for an awful lot more work though that's for sure. To be fair, if I made a video like this, Blue Dream would definitely be on the list of just one of those strains that's just super played out, and tends to be average much of the time. I've seen buddies grow it a few l times, grown a couple blue dream crosses myself, they do tend to be pretty homogenous as far as aroma and flavor, but it's not a terpene profile that I'm wild about (it's ok) and in all honesty, even though I do have a friend in Canada who has a cut of it that makes really nice, full melt bubble, Blue Dream and it's crosses do tend to not produce large quantities or particularly melty quality of bubble hash. And since full melt bubble hash is my thing, indeed literally what I made my entire KZbin channel about, That's the reason I wouldn't tend to grow a blue dream cross, but that doesn't mean there's not a good hash cut out there, If my Canadian friend managed to get me a clone, I'd love to grow his. I guess the point I'm making here is, it's not a matter of whether any given strain you might mention really, is a good strain, or if it will have certain properties that you're looking for. It's more a matter of how many seeds you're going to have to pop to get one with characteristics that are ideal for you. In the case of blue dream, I know if I buy blue dream seeds I'm going to probably have to buy a lot to find a phenotype like my friends, It's not a common trait of the strain so it is one that I wouldn't bother with either. Definitely agree with you on the overhype thing on the cookies. I do kind of balk at $20 beans myself a little bit most of the ones I buy are cheaper than that. But occasionally if I really want a genetic I'm willing to pay that much. I do agree it is a bit high priced for as many seeds as you turn out from a single plant. Happy hashing, friends#!!

[@kiddynamite3931]

The original cut of Santa Cruz BD is as close to the perfect commercial and kraft cultivar. Oh man the originals of these cultivars are ridiculously good. Ok, I'm old 😢, but have a bit of experience

[@KaotikImpulse]

Definitely been paying $12-15 a bean for feminized packs. Haven't had a single issue with them popping and growing full term without issue. I fully agree with the price opinions, everything (regular goods) is price creeping like crazy right now

[@biggrigg1026]

Did not expect to see the price I saw on Chill Out OG. Maybe another day I’ll pick up some of those.

[@Elchapo27]

Love the vid man 😮‍💨

[@abril8915]

Do you still wash you weed plants after cutting???

[@mycollica]

only thing i’ll say about these big name strains like blue dream and maui wowie is unless it’s a super verifiable breeder with reputation it’s hard to believe companies that sell a lot of these classic names

[@kl0udykl0ud55]

Thanks for the video

[@kl0udykl0ud55]

By the way I'm here cuz I'm on my first grow and I vow to watch every garden talk podcast. Halfway through them all he spoke about the from the stash podcast. From the stash is so far better for me because a lot of the garden talk podcasts cover things I've already absorbed through reading or other videos. So now I have to watch all the from the stash podcasts too. Got any others to reccomend?

[@bovineexcrement8635]

If you clone your Maui Wowie you could flip that and produce bud in a timely manner...

[@Parialated]

Its tricky cause a seed is a host of potential genetic features but it is a slotmachine as far as what genes will be dominant and recessive...... But i personally will avoid cookie strains from now on, it will herm if you sneeze too loud....

[@Parialated]

Also a lot of a bad stories about extortion, exploitation not living up contracts and intimidation from Berner, 3 different people sued him... And the cookies university is some woke nonsense about supposedly marginalized people affected by prohibition but these kids entire adult life cannabis been legal... I got evicted over cannabis, and its still illegal to grow over here

[@juaniec2]

Agree I DO NOT buy expensive beans.

[@timothykappel198]

Are u growing from seed or from prehunted clones?

[@UrbanGardeningWithD.A.Hanks14]

What strain fit your bill, if I may ask It sounds like we have a similar goal in mind.

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

Thank you spider Farmer for sponsoring this little segment on pigeons 420 TV

[@paulaoryall6998]

I agree about the cookies. Good stuff but not worth the price. You can get better beans for much less. In house genetics are pretty good imo

[@fullmeltxtractions]

Yeah, people talk s*** about in-house and say that their stuff herms, some of the best hash I made in my life was from in-house genetics. I think a lot of people out there don't want to blame themselves and instead blame the breeder for their shitty growing practices that cause herms.

[@KoolAide187]

I understand people will spend hours, weeks, months, years pheno hunting seeds and breading seeds. But seriously the price of some brands has gotten out of hand. There is way to many fire seeds out there for 10 dollars or less to be trying to push seeds for $25+ a seed.

[@jeroid123]

feels weird I rearranged my room opened your vid, and so had you! haha

[@steelcitytv]

Happy 100k man working on 10k my self

[@DanielM1224]

hair, on fleek.

[@devinej8411]

As a long time grower about yrs ago myself and a few friends s1 a ton of fem seeds so you have a few and can pass them around for a few bucks it's only right the seed prices are way crazy nowadays and everyone deserves good quality flowers especially if there putting in the effort to grow them themselves.

[@nickloya9922]

yeah, grape ape I tried was f. bunk; cookie beans are too dam expensive

[@donnyharris2231]

Im growing jellybreath by in house genetics and it’s painful to do. It just stretches too much to be a fixture in my grows.

[@hafastmotorsports2949]

I found that strain does best in 7gal fabric pots with LST. I did a 20 gal and was slow to flower and very stretchy

[@donnyharris2231]

Yeah I doubt I’ll run it again. The plants are growing well- they’re just too hands on and tall.

[@JimKingsnorth]

Blue Dream also is a very strange-looking plant.

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

Thank you also AC Infinity

[@m1ndflowmaticgaddy209]

My purple punch x blue dream genetics wasn't all that but I'm waiting on her to finish but I'm not buying another blue dream cross again

[@SilentScreamsStudios]

I did a few runs using Barney Farm and was not thrill at all. Blimburn are hit and miss as well. I want to try some exotic genetix, compound genetics, Humboldt, LIT Farms, Cali Connection, and twenty20 Mendocino. Have you ever tried beans from gelato seeds or Grow More Fire? Thanks

[@nickolasedmunds]

Thanks this helps allot i love Maui Waui when i pheno hunted the regular beans for a mom i saw a few more sativa hybrid the seed banks are chosen for that fuller sativa longer flowering sativa that flowers. I believe there are some phenotypes from Nirvanas regulars that can be done in 9 weeks as a sativa hybrid its just to much work.

[@nickolasedmunds]

There are some really creative strains that are sedative and creative just there terpenes are not as rich on some these days and there a pass up for sure I feel the same.

[@anthonystratton4941]

Pete, I had to giggle when I heard your whine about Maui Waui. 12 weeks too long for that quality? The overall is so much better with outdoor sativas. My run now I am flowering Orange Poison which to my surprise they actually used REAL durban not the dutch crap. So I am waiting for the 14 to 16 week flower to finish. Don't ever think of Malawi-it can go 22 weeks but then you can only take 2 puffs before you are not driving. Second time I grew it I took it down at 16 weeks. Still enough to watch cartoons without turning on the TV.

[@woodchipgardens9084]

I been growing for 5 years and have never bought a seed cause im not paying 20 bucks and i dont grow giant plants yet, i never ever payed 60 bucks an 8th since maybe 1995.

[@maneiloveyall3672]

Wheres this TV Dinner strain at smoked it and was hella fire and havent seen it around

[@greenmandan]

I think all the beans are over priced even at $10 a bean is to high,, I've grown and developed my own seed it's not rocket science but they price it like it is lol

[@smm72]

I had this blue dream from hso, i loved it it was a metallic blue. Grown it multiple times since never found it again. Grape ape from cunuk seeds sucked 0 grape flavor just funk.

[@SourBogBubble]

grow blue dream outdoors if you want 5-10lbs plants.

[@dmo848]

Lol so agree. I wanted to try cookies beans until i seen how much they were and Humboldt beans. Crazy expensive

[@ChadAF_YT]

Bro, you are so right about blue dream, there is no creativity like green crack or super silver have

[@diezelvh4133]

Laughing Buddha is #1 for creative uses.

[@CExpress420]

Ayo nice to see you this Friday P. Congrats again on 100k. Can't wait to try out that stash blend.

[@Jo-JoGro]

Plenty of cultivars dont produce hardly any beans. So i can see why something that doesnt produce many beans would demand more of a premium. But still i aint paying $20a bean.

[@nashnashisback4448]

Which blue dream did you smoke? I got one from Humboldt that was a amazing

[@bentgenetics8623]

Most of these are for outdoor. Cause of the long flowering.

[@CannaGro81]

I hunt couchlock i got a lot of spine problems. But i grow all kinds currently wedding cake, and zskittles, just finished ACG

[@Slayer_420]

Couldn't agree more with the pricing of beans 🤘🪴💚

[@dalejohn6693]

Best that I ever got and grew absolutely beautiful was a 3 +1 pack of sweet seeds big devil xl auto.....and it only cost me 15.95 us.

[@jakelooter5139]

dont buy seeds from "Cookies," buy their strains from better breeders such as Barney's. their Biscotti Mintz is one of the beszt strains I have ever had by far. I am not like you newbies on here I have been growing for like 25 years and was smoking Amsterdam weed in HS while everyone else was smoking mexican brick lol

[@MR-puffnstuff]

Installed tent for reptiles instead in a matter of twenty minutes 8x8 by 6 mars hydro tent w foam pieces zip tied poles half up three sides for climbing.

[@madvaper5728]

what?

[@TonyFernandezjkdjedi]

When's the top 10 party strains coming out. Would love some killer weed to smoke at party's that won't put me to sleep.

[@ronwitek4539]

Id avoid biso purple , 1000 oaks, grape ape as well its just some mids that look great tangie is a no go for me and all things loke it including superboof, rs11, all trops as well as that tangie terp profile just taste mehh to me and isnt relaxing at all im a connoisseur of indicas

[@khrisjune1980]

I read today on a fb group that some dude spent 5k for one clone.

[@savyx4218]

Can u do an episode with pictures for the best of home diy breeder?

[@christianwhite1771]

Agree about bluedream not keen on strain but grown grape ape few times an flower rosin was so tasty pungent n grape smell taste an high was great

[@dirtyoarcatfishing7927]

Someone who buys seeds from ILGM should never speak on genitics 😂😂😂

[@Pigeons420]

Never purchased seeds from them…

[@woodchipgardens9084]

I dont like blue cookies, wedding pie and ice cream cake, they just paralyse my head and body, its not fun, 90s strains were much funner from everything i remember. The only cookies i would try again is Sherbert, oreoz, coco puff and lemon merenge.

[@JoeyProffitt1978]

Predatory pricing seems to be a trend in this industry. Cookies, Trim-Daddy and Canatrol. All are way overpriced!!!

[@91750fast]

Cannatrol is a priceless instrument of quality, you get what you pay for. If you are even thinking about using a trim daddy, you have no business using a cannatrol as your weed will already be ruined. Cookies is in everything, you can get cookie genetics for dirt cheap anywhere.

[@JoeyProffitt1978]

@@91750fast I agree that genetics should be dirt cheap. Seeds are plentiful. I rarely purchase anything since I have a nice collection of strains I just keep cloning. I considered a Trim-Daddy because I harvest a plant every few weeks or so and I can't stand trimming. I understand that using it on the sugar leaves would basically mangle your nugz. I was planning on using it on fan leaves to just reduce the amount of time I spend in trim jail. If even, only a bit. As for the Canatrol... it's not priceless. It's $1600. And that's way too much. I paid almost the same amount for my refrigerator. And before you try to tell me that it's somehow worth more than a refrigerator. Let me point out a few things. My refrigerator, as all others,, has 2 chambers each with it's individual environments; freezing and cooling. It's also much larger than the Canatrol. Which means it holds much more and required more raw materials to assemble. It hooks up to my water line and makes it's own ice and filters the tap water. It also hooks up to my wifi and I can set it to order food on it's own. Not only is the Canatrol only the size of a mini fridge. But it only has one chamber. If you want to dry a new batch, you need to empty the contents that are curing and replace them after your batch dries. It does NOT hook up to a water line. In fact, it doesn't even have a reservoir for humidity control. You wet a sponge in a dish to provide humidity. And the excess moisture is dumped in to a drip pan that you must manually empty. And it does NOT tell you when that drip pan is full, so if you don't remember to check it then you will have a mess. It has absolutely ZERO blue tooth or wifi capabilities. Don't get me wrong. I think it's a really cool appliance. And I would love to have one. Even had it in my cart one night. Just can't hit the buy button because I know that the price is a total rip off. To justify that price it needs to have separate chambers for drying and curing. It needs, at least, a reservoir that can be filled for humidity. And it needs some sort of Wifi or Bluetooth to send me a notification that the drip pan is full, the water is empty and info on the environments. At it's current state, it's a total rip off at $1600. I don't think I'd pay more than $1000. Probably not even that. If it had everything I mentioned included, I might be able to talk myself into $1600. Maybe. But, at it's current specs; It's a scam.

[@stangmann1521]

Love my Cannatrol / set it and done! Great flower going in & better coming out or storage too/Well Wotrh its price 1600.00 IMO. !

[@JoeyProffitt1978]

@stangmann1521 value is subjective. Still way out of reason for me. I've been drying, curing, and storing for basically free. Get nothing but compliments on my smoke.

[@bill1863]

I agree Cookies are way to expensive. 👍🔥

[@1000shawnc]

Bad pheno of grape too mine always taste like candy not a fan of the high though

[@moosebrandon8665]

I agree 💯

[@hubey3160]

Great to see the Progress, and revenue avenues your taking!

[@Pigeons420]

Thanks brotha!! Been a crazy journey. It’s been awesome to have you along the way!

[@EoSxACB]

Blue Dream is good for sleeping with a name like that who woulda thought

[@bmungerwash1979]

Exactly!! 2 much 4 beans u right $10-12 a pop

[@slade2152]

Blue dream is relaxing but minds awake

[@grizzymcfire278]

Do it for the plant not the people ✊🏼