I locked Zen in spawn

This Zen is a bit... questionable
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#Fitzyhere #Overwatch2 #Sombra

[@bitbatson1559]

I wish we could give kiriko similar treatment. She definitely deserves this treatment with how she can just do everything, everywhere, all at once.

[@ulrichwagner7311]

If she was voiced by Michelle Yeoh I'd be less salty if nothing else

[@DeskIsUndead]

Kiriko is alright but its just that added damage she has. I dont mind healers being able to also get damage, but i just dont see how a *healer character* can two tap people

[@MasterMemo]

​@@DeskIsUndead I wouldn't mind it if her healing output was a little lower. I mean, I'd like if she was like Sombra...a hybrid hero.

[@razrv3lc]

@@MasterMemo honestly. She’s got the utility of an off healer with the healing of a main healer. She’s just not bad at anything. She fits pretty much every comp. I’d be perfectly fine with a healing nerf despite the fact that I genuinely like playing her. Usually when you play a hero you figure out exactly what their weaknesses are but she just… doesn’t have any that I’ve found.

[@rui12]

evelyn kiriko multiverse: wait till you see me on my bike

[@indulhensiyani]

"how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!"

[@Vikturus22]

"I refuse to learn."

[@JBLZFTW]

That zen was actually hard throwing by not swapping off, literally accomplished nothing all game

[@S0LIDSNEK]

Fr, I play lots of Sombra and this is super rare. I’d say 90% of the time, the zen swaps immediately after dying to me the first time, and the remaining 10% of the time he swaps after one spawn kill. Almost no one just throws on zen like this.

[@briscoeag]

​@@S0LIDSNEK I play Zen a lot and if the other team even has an average Sombra, I'm swapping. What made it worse, when the Zen respawned with Junker Queen he immediately separated from her. I couldn't believe it!

[@abouttime837]

that’s not hard throwing

[@XxVirginBabyxX]

@@abouttime837 Babes, it most definitely is!

[@Das_Ungeheuer]

​​@@briscoeagThat's what made me wonder "What rank was this again?". I mean, that Zen just went "Hey, thanks for the babysitting, Queen. Now let me go my way to make it easier for the spawncamping Sombra to own my ass YET again".

[@stabyourcat]

I can't believe that Zen wouldn't swap. At this skill level that's insane to me.

[@tiger7892]

You get 2, maybe 3 times to spawn camp me before I swap Moira 😂😅

[@razrv3lc]

I killed a Moira at spawn on Sombra once (literally once that I can ever remember because that shit is hard) and she said “wtf” in chat. I just said “me too” because that was one of the weirdest 1v1s I’ve ever won hahahaha

[@tiger7892]

@@razrv3lc lmaoo 😂

[@nimishdave9716]

Wow your team was losing every fight when you occupied their second healer

[@DeskIsUndead]

I mean tbf they are also missing a DPS. Also i love fitzy and he can makes teams better but sometimes its not great, like there was a fight here when fitzy was just invis for like a whole 10 secs waiting for an opportunity to do something

[@d00mnoodle62]

​@@DeskIsUndead that's why she needs that rework, she's super annoying vs and with. Her kit allows her to do ''nothing'' too well

[@MasterMemo]

​@@DeskIsUndead that's what's hit or miss about Sombra. Can your team win a 4v4? Missing mild Zen heals and his discord orb, you'd think so. Especially since Sombra dmg isn't exactly high.

[@MasterMemo]

​@@DeskIsUndead honestly, more players SHOULD do that. That's what leads to trickling, people feeling the need to be busy makes them overextend or trickle when waiting and positioning would be better

[@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers]

@@DeskIsUndead Being down a support is a bigger deal than being down a dps - significantly bigger. Every hero can do damage, only supports can - as a category - meaningfully heal, buff, nerf, and cleanse others. Other roles might have one or two people who can (Zarya bubble, Sombra hack), but the support category is far more valuable than the dps category, as a rule. All else equal, if you could start every fight trading one of your dps for one of the other team's supports, you'd do it every time, because losing a cass is less harmful than losing an Ana, losing a Soldier is less harmful than losing Bap, etc. Remember, we have role lock specifically because people figured out that the optimal comp was literally one without any dps.

[@phredbookley183]

I play a lot of Zenyatta. But I also watch a lot of Fitzy. Dang... I am conflicted Haha

[@Grfn23]

I dreamt I was a butterfly

[@ash20453]

That zen seemed like he absolutely had it in general for whatever reason. Like the entire game as a whole being a zen main. and that was what resulted in his peculiar apathy

[@Iamthecrazyone]

I want to make someone as happy as Fitzy gets when the enemy has a Zen

[@flyweeabooty]

me as a sombra player: >:3 me as a zen player too: "LEAVE THAT LITTLE GUY ALONE"

[@adamsteiff98]

Your sombra is the most fun to watch. She feels like she’s in such a good spot right now balance wise. Best since ow2 launch. Not OP like season 1 and not trash like season 2. I don’t want this rework for her.

[@razrv3lc]

This usually happens whenever she’s in a good place. If she’s not borderline unplayable, the community isn’t happy because it means they might see her once every forty games and they can’t stand that. It’s been this way since she was added to OW1.

[@adamsteiff98]

@@razrv3lc oh believe me I know. Every time she gets in a decent place in the meta they need her to trash or rework her. If anything right now. I would allow her to keep hacking health packs and deployable while invis but unstealth if hacking an enemy. And maybe a timer on invis and or trabslocator

[@chibz1790]

I just don't understand why we need an unkillable hero, it doesn't seem fair that she's able to kill you in seconds while also being able to come back 5 seconds later with full health because she tucked her tail and ran

[@ryan-fk4kn]

@@chibz1790 there are ways to counter sombra, even without switching. sombra is all about punishing out of position people. if you stay with your team, it makes it very hard for us to get to you cause you're in the middle of 4 other people. it truly is a skill issue if you can't kill a sombra. if worst comes to worse, have someone looking for her translocator.

[@chibz1790]

@@ryan-fk4kn so it's a skill issue if she can teleport away instantaneously? yeah my bad i didn't kill her so fast that her reaction time couldn't keep up, that's on me.

[@fahdfahad243]

Zen: I’m having fun in this game *enemy switch to sombra* Zen: *defeat*

[@squeezeslemons]

Imagine staying Zen with fitzy on the other team lmaoo. And somehow your team is still losing the fights. Wild.

[@TonyC2328]

Damn the team just could not use the value at all here lol

[@rorykeefe8954]

What crimes did Zenyatta commit? There’s no need to kick him up in frickin’ Guantanamo Bay!

[@talalmansour2139]

That zen is so patient

[@vatarants]

When competitive game needs to lock 1 slot for Kiriko everygame, You know that's the problem to fix it asap.

[@skinnysnorlax1876]

I like the idea of a support having a cleanse. A hyper mobile support who can deal triple damage with headshots, has solid healing, a potent ult, AND can render you immortal with that cleanse? Not so much. No one else needed baptiste's niche. Remove that and she should honestly still be solid

[@fervzquez]

looking at this old videos pre sombra rework and thinking gosh that translocator was slow af

[@ztarbuck]

this is the most painful zen I've ever seen, please spare him😢

[@Waffl3B1T]

I love watching you make a zen cry

[@Ari-jd3gz]

⏰ ANNOYING ⏰ WEE WOO ⏰

[@mediocregamer2484]

LMAO Cassidy over here break dancing 6:03

[@Necroneer]

That Zen lmao

[@CaneFumatore]

the zen was living up to his name i guess

[@dougsburner5897]

Fitzy “ i dont understand” him just hacking the zen afk half the time. Interesting plays.

[@BunPrince]

Zen players have had it too good for too long, it's their turn to suffer

[@nvdmw]

what did we do dawg💀

[@poundcake681]

@@nvdmw existed😈

[@ghostirq]

Wtf are you talking about? Zen always been the easiest target to kill in the game

[@Pam234]

@@ghostirq discord is way to broken

[@sorner_09]

@@Pam234 that’s why he’s a glass support, literally everything kill him also he has no mobility

[@chukadoo1871]

ive been on the receiving end of this exchange before. the balls on this bot to not stick with its queen tho

[@sick911]

Wow that team was almost uncarriable.

[@butterflyscreams1965]

The thumbnail😂

[@jxmxsc]

You changed that Zen's life

[@jacobwithey6398]

gotta give the zen credit, he was a slippery lil dog until you spawn locked him

[@benjaminvenegas4658]

Idk as a zen main this makes me cry but also as a zen main this one needs aim and movement practice. It will always be easy to kill zen unless zen makes it hard to.

[@Wemfs]

that poor zen lol

[@JojoDigitalArtist]

Oh god I actually feel bad for Zen this time

[@Vikturus22]

That zen had a great time.

[@MM-ux7kp]

fitzy video is love. fitzy video is life

[@spicy_shumai]

Lumen was getting dunken on this match. I closed my eyes and he died 4 times.

[@BlightedLight]

I liked that lumen person they were your zenyatta in a recent game and got play.

[@juggernautwzrd]

that was a harder game than it needed to be

[@maximedanjou7927]

Pros and cons of not hacking Zen before shooting like at 7:29 ? But hacking before like at 7:44

[@NanoDelMar]

He was sitting still so by not hacking you can start fight with headshots and when he’s walking hack for damage boost

[@maximedanjou7927]

@@NanoDelMar yeah that’s what I do vs widow, headshot without hack. And zen has a big hitbox so might be easier to shoot anyway… thanks

[@moonlightcj7546]

That zen 😂

[@johnwilliam4042]

I'm surprised the zen didn't rage quit..

[@MrSoBitchy]

Fitzcontent yeeeessss

[@ZackyT52]

Dude why would he not switch? Lol

[@senor135]

you monster!

[@Peikkomies]

Fitzy hard carried

[@jahniedez6834]

Poor Zen LMFAO!!!

[@lagh]

This is fucking glorious 😂

[@juggernautwzrd]

random comment to help with the **ALGORITHM** 3/29

[@Grfn23]

I dreamt I was a butterfly

[@thehorse5307]

Sombra should have 175 health. If Tracer has 150 then the second most elusive character should have 175.

[@MM-ne2cl]

Worst idea ever, it's way more easy to deal damages to Sombra than to Tracer. Tracer has big damages and a lot of mobility with 3 dash and her recall, while Sombra has shitty damages and just stand normally while she shoots at you (so she's more easy to target since she's not moving everywhere) If Sombra has 175 HP she won't be able to confirm any kills with her shitty damages, even right now in her current state she often translocate with low HP without confirming kills so lowering her HP is just going to make her meaningless. If her health is reduced, her damage would have to be increased too and that's not the way her character should evolve in

[@michaelj49]

@@MM-ne2cl but tracer cannot go invis; as sombra thanks to that you can find an optimal positioning; with tracer they can still hear you coming, also the reliability of sombras tp to confirm an escape is not the same as recall, you could recall and be brought back to an even worse spot

[@Alan4311]

Why does nobody shoot the turret ever? Legit curious.

[@sethescope]

people tend to assume someone else will deal with it, which often leads to no one dealing with it

[@kelseycox8632]

I’m really confused? Why didn’t the zen switch? Why wouldn’t he switch? Wtf?

[@MM-ne2cl]

yeah this zen threw so hard it's unbelievable

[@ItsDende]

Is spawn camping the zen even giving his team an advantage? the opposing team is always down a zen but his team is down a dps, I think I'd rather have two dps and one support than two support and one dps but maybe I'm missing something?

[@urabeech2]

It can, yes. While Fitzy's team has 1 less person contributing damage, the other team lacks somebody contributing damage on top of no Discord Orb, healing, and a defensive ult. Given that he can simply translocate back to his team, there is minimal downtime getting back to the team. Not to mention easy ult charge for EMP. More EMPs=more opportunities to win fights. Also, it can force fights in which your team fights up 4v3 rather than an equal 4v4. Creating a favorable situation can go far, especially when you include ultimates. Does Zen burn Transcendence to stay alive or do they save it in response to an ultimate? Is the person protecting Zen wasting their time when they could help with the team fight instead? Does this work every single time? Of course not. Sometimes, no matter what you do, the other team wipes yours. There's only so much you can do (as any hero, not just Sombra); it is what it is.

[@lum_berry111]

being down a support is almost always more detrimental to a team than being down a dps is, especially when its a dps like sombra. sombra is basically always gone anyways, so trading her low damage to get rid of something as important as discord orb or transcendence is def worth. it is very situational tho, if your team has another priority target to deal with, or an ult that needs be shut down like sig or cass, it would be better to play with team in those situations.

[@boxcpl]

FITZY stahhhhhhp

[@ginevadiva1498]

Where can I find more clear versions of the skin specific voice lines?

[@Ross516]

The Wikia usually has all of them under their quotations page. If the skin was in ow1 too check that page because not all the OW2 pages are updated. (The ow1 page will be linked on the OW2 page, which itself will be linked on the characters primary wiki page under 'quotations/quotes') the only drawback is that it (obviously) won't have any new voicelines added for that skin in OW2 (such as Ashe's Halloween skin, where she calls BOB bezelibob)

[@ginevadiva1498]

@@Ross516 thank you so much!

[@Rose-xd9ul]

kiriko is so skinmy

[@chonker1]

Are we complaining about Kiriko again?

[@penrilfake]

We're always complaining about the most OP hero currently, yes.

[@XxVirginBabyxX]

and for good reason.

[@lum_berry111]

considering she has the strongest ability in the game, one of the strongest ults in the game, respectable healing, VERY respectable damage for a support, one of the best movement options in the game, and a tiny hitbox to go along with it, i feel like the complaints are deserved.

[@michaelj49]

Not even i as a main tracer, whose ult gets negated by her, would see me complaining so much about her lol

[@addynaruto1221]

Deserved

[@Something_Kyle]

Yo can I get a replay code?

[@aheroofthestorm]

That's so mean....Do it again

[@d00mnoodle62]

Why did they buff mcree ult to ridiculous proportions. He has 225 health and 40% mitigation which equals 375 effective health, killing him is out of the question as his damage ramps to fast but it's also to fast to hide from. Happened this game where he killed two before he said his whole ''it's high noon''

[@lyzder7298]

Nah, Cass ult is as situational as ever, specially at high elo because people's positioning is way better. If Dead Eye is giving you much problem you need to start tracking ults and play around cover when you think he has it

[@Ross516]

Have you not seen the video where high noon can straight up miss based on so many factors lol

[@d00mnoodle62]

@@lyzder7298 in the tournament video's there's many multikills from wanted's high noons. Even in organized play it's often strong by the looks of it. Compare this to death blossom or rocket barrage, ults that leave you much more vulnerable, high noon is unfair by comparison. In ow1 it was fine, the ramp up was slow so you had to flank or combo it, but nowadays it works even in the middle of combat. I think if they remove the damage mitigation you could atleast shoot him before he pulls it off.

[@Das_Ungeheuer]

​@@d00mnoodle62 Dude, you're talking about Wanted. If he can't get kills with Deadeye, no Cass can. It's about your positioning vs his timing (looking for weaken targets).

[@vasilios2]

Bro if you're dying to high noon often, you're silver tops

[@duhduh14]

Kiriko is worse than Sombra and I hate sombra with a passion lol

[@SuperLifestream]

Fitzy: "I don't understand" "what is happening team" Also fitzy: so focused on killing zen and having zero impact to fights

[@allenwright89]

?

[@skinnysnorlax1876]

Spawn killing a healer is definitely no impact, right? 🤨

[@dougsburner5897]

Exactly, i was like whats going on half the time. 🤣

[@lukian09]

90% of the video is enemy zen spawn camped. huge gameplay

[@nicolasbr1332]

Some aoe gameplay would be so cool imo

[@aaronzamarron1989]

Haha

[@daniilnoun8262]

As you should, queen 👑

[@lasky929]

I love that the entire time you think your doing something impressive

[@pink7930]

Can't wait for that rework!

[@chibz1790]

common sombra player L

[@pinkyoshiii]

First?

[@toma__gotchi]

1st!