I Lost All My Appdata Due to a Reckless Mistake !!

[@AlexHritz]

This type of content solidifies why you are one of my favorite youtube channels. Not only are your tutorials EXTREMELY well done and helpful, but you show stuff like this, and I appreciate it so much! As someone who only recently got into unraid, I've obviously had a fair share of mishaps, and I truly appreciate you showing this content. Keep up the great work!!

[@krislaguardia5052]

A humanoid Cylon would not have made that mistake, so you clearly are human and I really appreciate you showing us the steps you went through. Shows that even in what is first thought as a royal pain to recover from, you CAN recover from it and move on. It also encouraged me to move from once a month appdata backups to weeklies.

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Hey Kris. Thanks for watching. Yes weekly definitely a better option for sure :)

[@AlyredV2]

@@SpaceinvaderOne Do you have a video for backing up your appdata efficiently? There's not a lot of great times for me to shut down the dockers to be able to run most of the backup processes. Will that become less of a problem with zpools?

[@sshomelab]

Thanks for the honesty. There is a lot to learn from your own mistakes, but also from the mistakes of others. I like this type of content. Everyone messes up sometimes.

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Thanks Diving Aquarist. Glad you liked it

[@Celsian]

Thanks for sharing your woes with us, I'm sorry you're having to go through that. I'd love to see your hardware sometime. It looks like you have a fantastic server.

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Will do! Been meaning to do that.

[@Celsian]

@@SpaceinvaderOne Thanks! I've been looking to change to an Epyc server for the extra lanes, but I haven't touched server hardware before and it's a little daunting right out of the gate.

[@nexusasus]

Great video, Always better to learn from other people’s mistakes, makes you realize the importance of backups. A natural continuity from this video would be part 2 of Making an Auto Backup / Failover Server. Thanks for sharing all of this with us

[@zito88]

This is one of my greatest fears. Have you done a video about backing up appdata and other critical data? What's your recommendations? I recently built a second unraid server and setup a dedicated 4TB pool for backing up critical data but haven't setup the actual backups yet, hoping I can run something like once a week in case I do something stupid like this lol.

[@Slowrider8]

Well this video made me discover my appdata backup hasn't been running for almost 3 months (I missed that the plugin had been deprecated), so thanks for the reminder to check!

[@etuwert]

Another great video. Just a quick question what is your pool Basestar 8tb drive used for?

[@arch2013]

As i remember for zfs send receive

[@huplim]

Thanks for sharing! Finally got to see the face behind this channel!

[@brianbgarber]

Thank you for another very informative video! It's prompted me to install the latest appdata backup/restore v2.5. When I initially set everything up I followed your tutorials but perhaps things have changed since then (especially with zfs). Do you have a video about converting xfs to zfs and/or is it worth it (especially for cache pool devices)?

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Hi Brian. I will be having a whole load of videos on zfs on Unraid now its officially supported (although it was available through a plugin before - but natively we can use in pools and the array) Its very hard to say should you convert pools etc to zfs or not as it has pros and cons. I will go into that in the upcoming videos. Thanks for watching :)

[@Gragorg]

Great Video. I noticed you are runing Authelia. Are you running this with SWAG?

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Hi Adam. Yes I use swag

[@Gragorg]

@@SpaceinvaderOne That would be a great video setting up Authelia for swag

[@visheshgupta9100]

I am planning an all SSD UnRaid Server build. I am concerned about the SSD TRIM. I believe that the UnRaid array does not support TRIM, only the ZFS pools do. Does UnRaid play well with 9207-8i SAS HBA drivers? If not, what controller card would you recommend?

[@mish2k]

Great video, I didn't understand if the fact that it was encrypted helped the total loss of data I mean if it had been unencrypted what would have happened?

[@MrZomhad]

Thanks a lot for the excellent content as usual! Really curious to see what’s hiding behind the solar tab in your menu bar! :D

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Hey Zomhad. Yeah it links so i can see my home solar and battery system because I am obsessed with seeing my solar production and energy usage etc ! :)

[@Shadow.Dragon]

Great video! I would be interested in seeing a video on your server-to-server backup.

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Yes that will be coming soon. I am building a new backup server so will do that video when i have built the new server.

[@alexthebear]

Hi! What do you think about using BTRFS as a main array with parity ? Is it enough reliable to save there all data ? I would like to have rebuild flexibility and checksums .... so ZFS won't give me this flexibility.

[@firatguven6592]

Do you think that mirroring or a parity disk has rescued the data resp. reverted your pool? I am afraid something happened here, even with a parity the pool would be death. My main pool is consisting of 4 x 8TB U.2 Z0 pool, since I didn't wanted to loose the additional expensive space. All my data is being synchronized with a qnap nas immediately, so that I would loose in such case only the data in RAM. I must mention that I needed to close the system in the past also by switching off which should be very similar to your case because the array did not wanted stop or similar problems in the past but I have never loose my pool. Otherwise I would change immediately to a normal Z pool with one parity.

[@RobertLentz97]

Great video!!! I wish I that fluent with Unraid... Question I have is will you be a refresher series from the beginning when the next big release for Unraid comes out... While I can still follow the videos to some extent, the updates kinda throw curveballs in the process... Hope you do! I hope to building my server down the road and this would help me make it bulletproof. :)

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Thanks for the suggestion Robert. Yes I think some more beginners guides would be a good thing

[@Harjinder.Australia]

How do you put the extra tabs "prime, backup, solar, HA" etc up on the unraid gui?

[@Aceriz]

Great video as always . .good to see way to recover from what to me would have been a big error that would take a while

[@GhostTheToast]

Apologies if you've done a video on, but I would be interested to hear your thoughts on self-hosting bitwarden. I jumped into doing it, but I've seen some post about how it's not really the most secure way to handle that data and been considering handing my bitwarden vault over to the proper service.

[@Akshun82]

Thanks for sharing! Minor inconvenience especially with an older backup but any backup is still better than no backup!

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Yeah definitely. Would have been far worse without a backup at all for sure. Normally I am quite good with regular backups. I knew i was going to totally reconfigure the server very soon so I just thought it will be okay until then. Wrong !! lol

[@motionthings]

Some of us have been running the ZFS plugin for a long time. Is there an upgrade path to the built in ZFS in 6.12?

[@Narueschke]

Hope you will do some kind of migration tutorial for dummys when 6.12. launches, I know you have done some videos on the plugins that supported unraid or how you did a setup with true/freenas. But migrating from scratch would be nice like how to set up the pools when you have ssds or hard drives and how you would handle caching - would you still use the brtfs stuff?

[@IEnjoyCreatingVideos]

Thanks for sharing the video with us Ed! and yeah there diffidently is a bug in the V6.12.0-rc1 and rc2 when it comes to formatting in ZFS encryption for the array disks i had reported that bug to on the forum and another user tested it to so now they have at less 3 people that have tested it :) hopefully rc3 or rc4 will get the fix for it :) anyways have a wonderful week JP

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Yes its an annoying bug as i like my drives encrypted. I was using some closed test versions before the rc and it worked fine so not sure whats changed. Thanks for watch and have a great week too :)

[@IEnjoyCreatingVideos]

@@SpaceinvaderOne 😎

[@prongATO]

Not what I expected you to look like! :) I wasn’t expecting a big burly dude with a beard. Your videos are pure gold, they’ve helped me use my unraid so much more efficiently. I went back and looked and I bought my Pro license and built first server in 2011!

[@triplerinse]

Us there an advantage if copying the appdata folder vs community application backup?

[@marcpearson2913]

You could have perhapsed linked to the video about appdate backups in your description?

[@CPR9969]

How good are you at decyphering the log files?

[@masterchef2408]

UnRaid freezes every time I try to install it, I can not get this thing working 😢, Asus Z9PA-D8 motherboard, I have tried 5 different USB flash drives, even tried to set up the USB the manual away with no luck. I can get to the install menu. I tried all four options with no success. I would really appreciate any help. Thank you in advance.

[@GiulianoMazzina]

As dreadful as losing my appdata would be (well, not really, I have it backed up in multiple places) there are some config things I'd love to change and rebuilding my appdata from scratch would be a good time to do it. And doing that kind of stuff is just fun.

[@SargonYounan]

This happened to me a few days ago after a power outage. What worked for me was stopping the array, unassign my cache pool devices, start the array without the cache pool devices, stop the array, assign the cache pool devices and start the array.

[@stiibunyozomita3536]

Just a perfect reminder for me to get myself another Mwme and put that cache in a RAID 1 configuration. Do have CA Backup setup, but it's mostly something you setup once and rarely check again if everything is still working properly after the initial check.

[@DwarDPT]

Wow a very nice video! Cool to see the hole process!

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching

[@philippemiller4740]

Great video as always. Why rsync and not zfs send receive? Has it been implemented with unraid 6.12?

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

The backup I had was just on an xfs disk on the array. Originally the appdata was on an ssd cache pool (not zfs). I was lucky enough to be able to use some test versions of Unraid 6.12 before the public rc. So i needed to move the data off the existing cache pools so i could format them and create some zfs pools. So i put the backups on the array. i named it zfs backup as it was a backup to be restored onto the new zpools. So yes. Had to use rsync as that share was xfs. Hope that makes sense :)

[@philippemiller4740]

@@SpaceinvaderOne Totally does :) Thanks for your videos by the way! It helped me so much over the years with unraid. I am using open-zfs now on unraid. I found that making a dataset for each container is the best way to go as I can have individual snapshots in case an update goes wrong or anything. Do you know if that is a feature included on unraid roadmap? To make a dataset for each new docker install. Have a great one mate :)

[@gyzmoduck]

I love the screen saver you have on the screen up behind you on the wall

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Thanks Hayaigin. Yeah I am a big Matrix fan (but not the most recent one last year :(

[@Warrigt]

If you're paranoid about showing what's in sonarr, It's showing the scan progress in the bottom left unblurred.

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Yeah thanks for mentioning that. I am not really bothered but just wanted to blur the images for KZbin as the coverart for the shows are copyrighted and may have caused an issue with the video otherwise.

[@MegaDiscolover]

Great vid!... maybe there is a possibility to show, how to easily create an appdata backup without using plugins etc for an easy recovery? Would be great! I've leard so much about unraid on this Channel... cheers

[@TomDastrup]

I would love to know what you do about the missing month of bitwarden data. did you lose new/changed passwords, or did you export all your passwords from the client before bringing the container up? etc.

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Hey Tom! So, thats another story. I didn't realize I had added anything to Bitwarden since the that appdata backup. However when I tried to login to Twitter after uploading the video to tweet about it, I couldn't get in because I had enabled TOTP with Bitwarden. So, I had to act fast! I shut down the container, grabbed my phone before it could sync, and exported the vault json file. I then started up Bitwarden again and imported the file. Phew, that was a close one! It seems like this week just isn't going my way.

[@JamieStuff]

Because of this video, I checked on my Appdata Backup. Well, it turns out that there's a new version available that the old version won't automatically update to. Got that fixed!

[@adamcooney3275]

Why no compression?

[@Apollopayne25]

Great video thank you. Please could we have a video on zfs in the rc builds. Creating a zfs pool that would benefit the average user if they want to integrate zfs to their existing unraid system. Thank you again for all your great work/videos

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Should have a video out all about that and the new 6.12 rc this weekend. In fact I was making it when this appdata issue happened so this video jumped the queue!

[@darthkielbasa]

I had the appdata backup plugin installed but did not configure it. Then I deleted my appdata directory. Pain is an opportunity for growth

[@pepeshopping]

Anybody naming their stuff "baseStar"... Now, really capable geeks DO make mistakes, but they NEVER lose data! (Backup, of the backup, of the backup!).

[@robcortese]

Love the cameo of your husky ❤

[@musicwizard12345]

i had the same problem.i just did a reboot of the server and it came back and all seems to be fine.

[@runthejules91]

awesome video, great to see a real world problem being solved!

[@oakfig]

Glad to see some space invader 1 videos!

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Thanks glad you like the vids :)

[@ayylien]

I remember a while ago a video was going to come out on backups. Also very nice that Unraid finally has ZFS native support.

[@le_potate3861]

So, I can make a zfs pool now? They released it?

[@nathanswan9243]

@@le_potate3861 its in the latest RC - I'd guess its still away from the next stable

[@MetalMilitia6g7x]

holy crap hes a real human being!

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

lol

[@psycorefull]

Topp! Thanks for share this experience, "funny"!!! 😭😭😭😭

[@MajykOyster666]

I know this is a stupid and useless comment, but I always figured you were 30 years older based on your voice in the other videos. :D Thanks for all your videos, helped me a bunch.

[@seanhinch2206]

Were your nvmes screwed down ?

[@Sean_Cockrell]

Lets hope so, but it was not the NVME drive pool that got corrupted.

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Hey Sean. Yes that's a really good point because if they moved and disconnected it would cause an issue. Not so bad a drive on its own but in a pool not good. In fact a few years ago i lost a screw for an nvme so i used bluetac temporarily until i could get another. But no your right. It wasn't the nvme pool just the regular ssds. Thanks for watching :)

[@Elmojomo]

I realize I'm probably late to the party, but this is the first time I've seen Ed in person. He looks nothing like I expected...

[@alamoaudio]

Same for me, seen a lot of his videos in the past, an invaluable resource to setup my unRAID servers. I just stumbled on this and feel somewhat confused.. I expected a totally different person for some reason

[@johnlewis6226]

Great video covering a lot of topics, hopefully I will never need.

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Thanks John :)

[@rmp5s]

Hey! It's the man, the myth, the face behind the voice!!

[@gmas]

Love your videos!

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Thanks gmas. Glad you like them!

[@prongATO]

Maybe use backup appdata set to backup every night.

[@DaveRicher705]

I did that six months in, never again.. never again...

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Yep i feel your pain

[@Goldmaster]

18:35 hello, hello what do we have here?

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

lol

[@christerpherhunter930]

It is really nice to see you do unscripted things; Like with the dog. ;)

[@arubial1229]

Uh yeah, that's not how a mic shock mount works...

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

lol other way up i guess !

[@lepatenteux592]

No way! You have a face!

[@theangelofspace155]

Thats why moved to ubuntu and I use the ibramenu to set my containers.

[@hybrispsycho1]

good to know even the greats can make mistakes lol

[@rynax009]

Cool, I lost all the appdata in the first year

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Yeah not fun at all ! Thanks for watching Vincent :)

[@AnthonyHarris-gw3fx]

Space invader 6 5 de today hmm Church St Apt 9 D Harris Professor 🕸️🕷️

[@xnotx2]

It's a tutorial on NOT what to do 🤣 ♥

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

Ha yeah, good point :)

[@dzmelinux7769]

So, you think you know what trouble is 🤔🙄😳😲😉 wait for my video about unRAID and my troubles. The reason the video takes time is still the ongoing trouble 🤔

[@SpaceinvaderOne]

looking forward to seeing it

[@dzmelinux7769]

@@SpaceinvaderOne Will take a week or two latest ;-)) but worthwhile watching ;-))

[@activate__motivation]

so this is how u look like , i thought ur a very ld retired men making these video on free time