“I’m a Neurosurgeon and I Quit” | Spine Surgeon Reacts

[@antoniowebbmd]

What do you all think? Let me know in the comments!!

[@stevethorne4978]

Dr I'm 60 and can't stay seated or standing due to neck pain and symptoms become so severe. Nubness in legs and arms.I can't get in to see a neurosurgeon for months.

[@georgemartyn5268]

@@stevethorne4978 he can't give you medical advice because he's not your doctor and he doesn't have access to clinical information (tests, imaging, etc) that would allow him to come up with a diagnosis. you need to consult your primary care provider. If you're from the USA, I understand that it's hard to get access to a doctor - that's just the country we live in, or, rather, the country we allowed it to become.

[@J.Davila_NP]

Actively trying to get out of medicine. Golden handcuffs are the only thing keeping me in clinic.

[@georgemartyn5268]

@@J.Davila_NP what field do you think to move to? or are you thinking of starting your own business?

[@craigwalsh8116]

Thanks so much for this. You are a wise man.

[@vilunu]

He was not burned out. He had an awakening. Good for him

[@abuuahmad3238]

well said

[@kingpaulmo]

The oath of the doctor.First，do not harm.

[@alexchow9629]

You nailed it

[@raesuzuya]

💯!!

[@Dejan_23Unlimited]

Yes, finally smart

[@stacyjones2605]

I don't think it was a cry for help. He helped himself. He wanted everyone to know the TRUTH.

[@vanessamata4701]

Exactly. This guy is coming off as trying to debunk this DR, when in fact he’s just sounding off an information alarm

[@Eri4Jp]

''the truth'' lol.

[@vilunu]

@@stacyjones2605 correct. He had an awakening

[@Oceangrace90]

I agree

[@robynrobyn7070]

​@vilinu3476 I think he had an Awakening too. He saw everything for what it truly is and after much searching he said Nope. I don't believe it was a cry for help. His just aligning with his inner self.❤❤

[@lemostjoyousrenegade]

Dr. Goobie wasn’t crying for help. I’d say he was giving VERY GOOD advice (and a very necessary warning ⚠️) to people who are considering a career in medicine as well to all others who are unhappy in their professions. His main message, it seems, is: live in harmony with your true nature, take care of your body and your mental and emotional health; live in integrity with your own core values, allow yourself to live more peacefully…be-ing in ways and doing things (especially the kind of work that you do) that are conducive to a more balanced, more peaceful life.

[@KingaGorski]

I saw Dr. Goobie's original video when it was going viral and I share the same sentiment as you in your comment, as well as his message he shared. 💭

[@lemostjoyousrenegade]

@@KingaGorski He seems like such a kind and compassionate person, wanting others to enjoy their lives as much as possible. Life is fragile and we are not sure how long we'll be here. In fact, a friend of mine just sent me a message that a VERY close friend of his just passed away less than 20 minutes ago. She was (I think) only about 60 or 61 years old.

[@KingaGorski]

@@lemostjoyousrenegade Oh man. I'm so sorry. Life can be so raw... reminds me of that quote: "Your second life begins when you realize you only have one." It's easy to forget about the fragility of life when we're all caught up in ours... sometimes it takes a tragedy or a loss to shake us up enough that we finally, really, start living. Hugs to you and your friend. 🫶

[@Alex-ii8zg]

It’s called integrity….

[@aminah761]

Yes honorable Man

[@lolbots]

tegridy

[@squibblet]

Exactly! Dr Webb missed the mark I think. -EMT

[@jotajmg]

@@squibblet nope, Dr. Webb did not miss the mark. In fact, he agreed with everything the Dr Goobie said, the difference is that Dr. Webb take in a more pragmatic way: Medical institutions are a business, and as such they are in it for profit. that being said, he acknowledges that the system might not work for everyone as expected including himself (when he talked about insurance, etc), but still they are able to have a positive impact in the lives maybe not of everyone but still as Dr, goopie said "they can relief pain in some of the patients (even if for some time) but not in all patients, which is their calling, to relief pain, but even if that is their calling it does not remove or eclipse the hard truth: we are humans, and to live we need money.

[@squibblet]

@@jotajmg they are brain washed. I would know im one of them.

[@selleckfiataugaluia9690]

I’m not a doctor or anything, but I don’t think he was talking about being burnt out about helping patients, I feel like he was talking about being overwhelmed with the morality of how the medical works. He said he got paid a lot, but he was unhappy on how he got it rather than telling patients there are alternatives in certain cases.

[@bambooqueue9093]

Bingo

[@ich3601]

@@dankaroos Most other fields are the same but pay less money.

[@KingaGorski]

Spot on ☝

[@megyskermike]

I know everyone wants to have the idealistic interpretation of it all, especially due to virality... but I think it's a lot of everything (not just morality/ethics). You can still help even if it isn't perfect and/or exactly the way you want (the world, medicine, and humanity are all deeply flawed in their own ways). You can speak to patients about other modalities of treatment while doing everything you can as a physician. Any work that is a service to humanity generally has significant flaws due to beauracracy and human greed, that doesn't mean you can't make a real difference in people's lives though.

[@kathleenwalker1398]

71 yo retired RN here. The changes in our Healthcare system over the years has been nothing short of absolutely shocking. We took Healthcare & basically dehumanized it. As a nurse I found my job increasingly frustrating. I'm sure it's much worse for doctors.

[@boobalooba5786]

All doctors should be required by law to be pro bono.

[@davemaurer7341]

Thanks to Obama

[@Nphen]

​@@davemaurer7341 This is what neoliberal capitalism does to people, institutions, and society at large. Profit is put ahead of all else, even legally. Patient care is not in the business model. These mergers (in every industry) are a result of zero anti-trust enforcement for over 40 years. I was talking to folks at a theme park this weekend, and they agreed that theme parks should be managed for the public good instead of strip mined for investor profits. Every crony contract kickback is in search of profits. As long as doctors & drug formulas can be bought & sold, care for the masses will suffer in favor of the rich. Capitalism is a system for domination by wealth. Don't like it? You're a socialist.

[@herlegz6969]

Capitalism rots everything.

[@KXS-l4l]

Humans are not "humane". That is the fundamental disparity that is too often ignored and results in failing systems.

[@mygodisawesome6121]

I’m a nurse and I feel his pain. I’m burnt out on nursing. I couldn’t imagine being a doctor ❤

[@lgarcia258]

I quit Nursing 20 years ago and would rather working in a Car-Wash or as a prostitute if the option is Nursing. Today, I am doing very well in the IT industry.

[@abood4477]

nurses done more jobs then doctors

[@mygodisawesome6121]

@@abood4477 I wouldn’t compare the two. They have two completely different jobs. They both are extremely stressful

[@abood4477]

@@mygodisawesome6121 unfair prejudice

[@coldogno7]

he made lots of money for 20 years as neurosurgeon that he could afford to retire early

[@Realitycheck-mqt]

He had a psychological break And was smart enough to get out

[@aminah761]

Yessssss

[@thecowegg]

knowing when to call it quits is very important

[@phengvang1441]

He saw the inversion of science and real health in the current medical field.

[@skincareforme]

he just was in a bubble and all of a sudden after repeated exposure woke up to the real world

[@coldogno7]

yes after he made a lot of money for 20 years to retire early

[@lailarafiq123]

A senior nurse in the neuro surgery department in the university hospital in Newark, NJ found a neurosurgeon crying during the night shift in the ICU HE SAID he was overburdened, stressed and burnt out.

[@TheMaster-KOS]

Can we talk?

[@ethanmaxwell2235]

@@lailarafiq123can we talk?

[@categurl3967]

I really like your voice 🤷‍♀️

[@Fraciencwa94]

You people are just crying over things Africans would.die.to get..

[@eldritchbeauty]

@@Fraciencwa94 People saying things are bad is how things get better. People from poorer countries benefit when working class people (and yes, even surgeons are working class) bring problems to the forefront and help those problems get solved. Bots don't care about this, of course, but normal people will understand.

[@MrsTaak]

I wanted to be a neurosurgeon when I was a teen because my mom fell off a ladder and broke her back. I wanted to be able to help people in a similar situation like hers in the future. My mom’s neurologist/neurosurgeon let me intern at his office for 2 years while I was in high school. After that I decided to go into the finance/accounting field because I saw the day to day struggles he faced and how he wasn’t happy. I decided then whatever I would do I’d make money and be happy doing it! I’m so glad I got that chance to truly ask myself if I could do what he was doing for a living. Very appreciative of that opportunity thanks to my mom and her doctor.❤

[@chuachua-hj9zd]

Why wasn’t he happy?

[@sunriselotus]

tell all of the people from Africa that i think if they shadowed in neurosurgery they probably would all quit and go into finance make money and be HAPPY

[@laurameng3715]

I think Doobie went into neurosurgery for the right reasons and he discovered that happiness & being true to himself was far more important than the expectations that society puts on people. He has a different definition of success, and he's finding what that means for him. He's not afraid to think and go outside the box, and doesn't care as much about what others think of him. I applaud him and wish him well. He's happy, and a VERY smart guy, so I know he'll figure it all out. Good for him! More people should be less focused on money and find outlets to help people, and it doesn't always have to be as significant as surgery or life-saving measures.

[@whtaccizdis]

He has a lot of wisdom.

[@thucphan2014]

❤👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤️

[@gaignum792]

I am a now retired 62 year old psychiatrist. I miss my patients. But I don't miss medicine. Your patients are no longer yours, they belong to the employer. You are just an interchangeable provider. Your administration does not care about whether you are good, bad, or indifferent. They just want to know how much revenue you generate. If you see lots of people for short periods of time you generate revenue and they are happy. The fact that you only spend 5 minutes with patients and are more focused on billing and medical records than patient care is fine by them. It's a catastrophe.

[@khem1230]

Agree

[@DarknessFalls29]

@gaignum792, I recently experienced the 5 minute appointment with my dermatologist who didn't seem remotely interest in looking or touching the areas of concern. I was made to go in just so they could approve a medication refill. I showed my irritation and told the nurse and front desk that next time I need a telehealth visit. I drove over 50 miles round trip for them to bill my insurance 😡

[@gaignum792]

@@DarknessFalls29 Sorry to hear it. Telemedicine saves money and time. I used to see stable folks once or twice a year and phone in scripts. My employer hated it and wanted patients to come monthly for their script so they could be charged $100 monthly for pointless sessions. I'm done.

[@DarknessFalls29]

@gaignum792 I'm glad you did the ethical thing and did what was best for your patients and not your employer's pockets. Too bad everyone doesn't operate with a good moral compass.

[@spikeybunny6577]

Is this why so many psychiatrists & other doctors leave hospital, group, or doc-in-a-box settings and go private practice & stop accepting insurance… patients have to pay the doctor 1st & file the claims themselves to be reimbursed? I am not a doctor, I’m a patient who’s had 4 spine surgeries & I’m just trying to understand the situation here. I’ve watched Dr Goobi’s video as well as this one.

[@Divinelymind]

Dr Goodie has a higher understanding of life 🙌🏾 i commend him for his courage in walking away from what was no longer serving him 🙏🏾

[@aminah761]

A humble Man he was on a verge of a nervous breakdown he choose his mental health over being a neuro surgeon 😢 that’s good for him taking care of himself first . U can’t help others if u are not in the right state of mind . Hopefully he found peace when one door close another one will open He will be fine 😊

[@Care-o9i]

💯💯🎯

[@jennifercrosdale5391]

There are endless possibilities that he can pursue and make a good living. With MD behind his name, he's got the golden diploma.

[@JaVi-mq3xn]

I think you completely minsunderstood him. He is done with his career, more power to him.

[@lemostjoyousrenegade]

Well said. 🎯I agree. I saw and heard a man who’s ALREADY at peace with himself and his decision to walk away. He’s now encouraging others to choose a peaceful way of being (living and contributing) OVER status and money. Much respect to him for speaking out about the corrupt business practices in the medical field. Many of us already knew about the insane amount of greed and heartlessness in that industry, however, it seems that far more people are utterly clueless or delusional about those things.

[@ezgreviews6775]

I don’t think that’s why he quit I think he quit because he no longer believes in what he did

[@imveryhungry112]

You dont need to go to medical school to realize that elective spine surgeries are often ineffective and lead to more surgeries, more pain. People have been talking about that for decades.

[@CaseyBrown-iq3fr]

So true, but people keep doing them over and over.

[@imveryhungry112]

@@CaseyBrown-iq3fr it's because a lot of people are really suffering from spine problems and are desperate for a cure.

[@Review-rj9lq]

Surgeons keep doing them ​@@CaseyBrown-iq3fr

[@DCYTB]

If baffles me that this doc also chose to go into spine surgery. If he really wanted to “help people” he could have done any of the other NS sub specialties like skull base, endovascular, or functional. Spinal NS has to be the farthest thing from preventative medicine which is what he seems to have actually wanted to go into. Anyone would have realized during residency, sh*t even during a NS clinical rotation!

[@JeanneBook]

The study needs more progress.

[@rockymountainwoman2618]

What a compassionate, measured, thoughtful response to the doctor leaving medicine.

[@RF-iv9vw]

The greed of health care needs to be removed

[@savedfaves]

In Australia there was a family who wanted to try intravenous vit C in one last effort to save their father (they had read cases where it helped) and the hospital instead fought them legally to have the machine turned off. The hospital in the end relented (perhaps the courts told them) and gave the family what they wanted, but only gave half the dose the family instructed based on prior case information of what helped others. It still saved him. The hospital cheekily claimed it was them that saved him and what saved him was them turning him in his bed. "Medicine" has the most perverse incentives. It is an industry where the big shots see private schools and personal large estates and not human beings in need of love.

[@balletsing3908]

My son is a 4 year resident that can barely afford his rent in a one bedroom apartment. You have no idea.

[@j.adamwegs2882]

I left a 10 year long career as a heavy diesel mechanic to go back to college for pre-medical psychology, with the goal of becoming a psychiatrist. I even got a job at a hospital in security to get a good view of the different specialties in medicine, however I was a firefighter/EMT for awhile prior to being a mechanic. The doctors I get to talk to have all been very supportive, and they seem to like their careers. However, seeing how patients, especially psych patients, are treated absolutely infuriates me. Our medical system is absolutely broken, and it really lets patients down. I feel like I need to do something to make it better, I just hope I'm making the right choice. The only thing I know for sure is I was miserable as a mechanic, and my life felt hollow since I traded the satisfaction of helping people in EMS for making a larger paycheck working on trucks. My goal is to build my own private practice based on the direct care system to provide care without having to worry about insurance. I know family medicine is moving in that direction in my area, and my goal is to add to that. I could care less about getting rich, I just want to have a comfortable life and help make things better

[@Michael-kv7uw]

I hope your optimism endures for years to come!

[@lrvracer3515]

Wow - you sound very interesting (eclectic and smart). All the best to you in your journey.

[@fortissimoX]

Your motivation and ideas seem great. People like you usually get discouraged once they get inside "the system". But, luckily, nowadays there are many more possibilities to do the work outside of "the system" than ever before. So, beside working on your career from academic perspective, I suggest that you also work as well on connecting with like minded people who are thinking "outside the box". Things are changing rapidly in your field, and connecting with right people might be much more beneficial than accumulating questionable knowledge. I wish you all the best!

[@doggonenomads]

I appreciate your honesty about hospitals and insurance companies. I watched another neurosurgeon respond to Dr. Goobie's video, and she avoided the topic, ultimately stating she 100% disagrees with that part of the video. What amazes me is that my dad has undergone around five different back surgeries. He and my mom have seen 6-8 doctors and went to probably a 100+ appointments in the past 10 years. Yet, he can still barely walk. I asked my mom, out of all the doctors and appointments, how many have talked to my dad about his weight problem? She said absolutely none (I am big into fitness). Despite this, he's on 10 different pills and has had numerous back surgeries while being overweight and having multiple comorbidities. Thank again for the video, the information, and for being real with us!

[@klee88029]

@doggonenomads That is so sad. That people are unwilling to con-front ("with face", to me is very respectful) the root of the problems by avoiding addressing the obesity issue. I feel for you. I am 72,retired nurse, who spent the last 10 years of my career working for health insurance plans. Leaving the environment of ER & ICU "aerobic" nursing shifts, I packed on 80 blubber pounds sitting in front of the a computer during those 10 years. Which have caused hip and knee osteo. I am still working to lose more weight before I seriously consider surgery. Down 40, with 40 to go to get to "a little overweight" from an obese BMI. Because I know that whether or not I have any replacements done, successful outcomes depend on my losing weight, first. Personal responsibility then physicians can do their magic. In that order. 👍🧓

[@doggonenomads]

@@klee88029 Thank you for your years as a nurse and helping so many people and congrats on the weight loss so far. I think one of the many reasons they don't talk about this is because society has not only glorified overweight people but also demonized anyone who talks to them about being overweight. It's really weird, sometimes I feel we are living in the twilight zone. Good luck with everything!

[@michaeli1010]

Omg minutes 12 to 14 should be a shorts clip and even a whole new video of its own. This is the most brutal honest truth in medicine and I’m glad to see someone finally say something about it. Thank you Dr. Webb 🙏🏾❤

[@godintheshell]

You're damn right about that point!

[@dianemckenzie9669]

Joe Rogan had an insurance executive whistle-blower on his show who explained how the insurance companies are controlling the entire "Healthcare" system.

[@stephaniedegange2737]

you are so right, Michael!

[@JamesEvans-y6l]

The doctors need to unite and get involved in state and national politics.

[@sflspotter6638]

That’s part of the problem. There are many Dr’s involved in politics.

[@makhosimayisa5800]

@@sflspotter6638in which country? Please name a few?

[@sflspotter6638]

@@makhosimayisa5800 whether it be directly or indirectly it’s happened here in the US for many many years. I have first hand knowledge of such. Stop trying to act ignorant. Look at the healthcare system in Canada and in Europe a prime example of how socialized medicine doesn’t work. Now run along little minion.

[@abcdefghi9]

Lol nah, im about to graduate medical school. If its one thing I learnt in med school is how cutthroat and ruthless medical students can be. They will never unite, just bitch and complain and try to cheat the system anyway they can.

[@lailarafiq123]

@@sflspotter6638 when drs get involved in politics they will sell covid vaccines !

[@Tracer414]

Sharing your takeaways as a doctor was very nice to hear. However I don't think the doctor in the video is crying for help. I think he has integrity and realized that the health system is broken and he consciously didn't want to be part of it. Thank you for staying impartial in your review of his video. Your video was wonderful.

[@wally6193]

95% of doctors just want to make money doesn't matter how they do it, repeat customers are the best to bring in more money.

[@m5073]

I’m an ER doctor and I can say regardless of specialty, many patients we just can’t get better or make happy or both. I wish I could make everyone not morbidly obese, I wish everyone stopped smoking and stopped abusing drugs and sugar. A lot of their problems I can’t fix. Some understand that. PS thank you Dr Webb for all you do and most importantly for the education you provide for everyone you treat and all those who follow you

[@Coach__T]

But you can advocate on behalf of being healthy within medicine which in turn will change lives!

[@abualzuaree]

Exactly. It all begins at home. You are a product of your own environment

[@Atlas-tp8dw]

👏

[@daffodilstang5292]

Indeed, cut out carbs n sugar n all processed good n fast food. Just eat beef, butter, bacon n eggs for 3 weeks to 3 mths n see for yourself, how much you have improved. No more meds.

[@guy7670]

The problem is that we don't trust you anymore. Unfortunately. It's a Paradigm Shift for us in the general public, and we don't like it. We want (need) to trust the medical profession. However, If a profession is wrong enough for long enough people loose trust. There simply has not been informed consent especially here in the U.S. during the last 5 years in particular. Very few M.D.'s really are asking for informed consent. Did you all not have time to inform us? Or were you just too busy or overworked to become informed? Or was it poor training? And why were some of the most accomplished Specialists in the world censored when they opposed the government narrative? Why are we having more and more chronic diseases than ever before despite by and large following the advice of the medical profession for the last 30 years? Far far fewer people are smoking, far more people are exercising regularly. Plant based diets are the norm as well -- people are eating less red meat. People have been using sunscreen religiously. Medical checkups are more common than ever. Meanwhile Cancer rates have been increasing dramatically, Diabetes has increased tremendously, heart disease was practically non existent as was Age related Macular Degeneration a century ago. It's going to be hard to recruit the brightest young people among us to toil in a field that has been so wrong as the medical field. Emergency Medicine would be the bright spot though. I hope you can continue the great work in providing help in that setting.

[@ratwynd]

I was a ER nurse for 10 years then trained as a PA-C (Physician Assistant - Certified) and practiced for 24 more. I know exactly what they are talking about here. But one thing I learned early on: You cannot cure everyone, but you can treat everyone. Sometimes that treatment is only palliative. But relief of suffering can come in many forms. Now in my 70's and remain active, working up a sweat many days a week in yard work, projects and keep my brain busy playing and learning guitar. I snowboarded into my mid-60s, continue to ride mountain bike and keep things moving. If you stop and sit on the couch you will die in a lot more misery.

[@andre1987eph]

0:01 I already know 100% how you feel about him quitting by the way you used the word "Unemployment" to describe his situation. However, being unemployed with a medical license in good standing is not the same as being unemployed security officer with no licenses other than a Guard Card.

[@lovelyV420]

Agreed.. i saw that word too. Def not the same thing. Dr. Goobie living his actual best life, And im def proud of him

[@bellakim9404]

It's clickbait b.s. This doctor should be careful. It's demeaning someone's integrity. Why not just listen to Doobies story and leave it alone. Why do a public reaction. It's unprofessional.

[@realblummusic]

"He became unemployed" no he decided the bullshit wasnt worth it, and is free now

[@CyndieJobb-bz4hh]

Hi Dr Webb. This was so excellent and a cautionary tale to those considering medicine as a career. I have 30 years as a fam practice PA and found my happiness in working part time. What I can say to you is even if you are unable to help people unwilling to help themselves just being there to back the FP people up by being straight w them and their families is sometimes the tipping point they need. I have seen pts respond by turning their lives around, losing weight, starting to move and motivating. I appreciate you surgeons. Thank you. We don't get to tell you because we are all so busy but I really appreciate you. I always tell my pts that the best surgeons are the ones who don't always jump right to surgery. The relief from a lesser intervention is priceless to our pts. Cheers from a fan!

[@DrMattCooks]

Currently in my 2nd year of residency and definitely feel the burn out, the second thoughts, and all the other roller coaster emotions in between. It helps to have a supportive partner and passions outside of medicine (mine are cooking and working out). I love how you were unbiased yet supportive, and you gave the neurosurgeon kudos. Medicine is definitely a business and at the end of the day is just a job. Not worth losing ourselves to benefit a larger corporation that may not have our best interests. At the end of the day, we just need to keep taking care of ourselves and our patients to the best of our ability. Thanks for the inspo Dr. Webb, and best of luck to all of you out there too!

[@daelinproudmore5068]

Thanks for all you do!

[@ShalakaSitre]

It is really important to hear different opinions. I was looking forward to a career change and getting into medicine. Looking at Dr Goobie's videos made me unhappy and shook my desires in life. It is good to see other doctors who address this aspect and explain where they are coming from , and outline coping mechanisms to survive. Thanks Dr matt and Dr webb for this.

[@Scott-yu4yt]

PGY1 here, my fellows told me “remember at the end of the day you’re replaceable, not worth losing yourself over this”

[@dgasmd1]

@@Scott-yu4yt He couldn't not have been more right. And every doctor practicing today is to blame for that. Most of us have let go any authority that allows you to do better simply for doing it easier and for a bit less. Here we all are now.

[@sydney8382]

Agree!

[@murphtahoe1]

Amazing that you are speaking on this topic. I’m starting to act on his comments and I’m already starting to feel better with pain in my hips, shoulders and back. Best to both of you.

[@001niwrad]

“That’s why call it BACK surgery, patients just keeping BACK!” That’s so punny Dr Webb😂

[@antoniowebbmd]

😂

[@NurseyPooh59]

Which is why I absolutely did not do back surgery. And I am fine 14 yrs later.

[@user-lu6yg3vk9z]

@@antoniowebbmdwhen u quitting Dr.Webb?

[@TechnoLog14]

I am career changing into medicine. I have spoken with so so many doctors who are unhappy with the status quo and think I'm crazy for wanting to enter the field. It is so intimidating to hear them advise me against pursuing this path, but I think my passion for helping others will get me through the lows and make the highs so much more rewarding than my previous career. I think by entering the field instead of turning my back I can be part of the solution. I hope I'm not wrong!

[@vault587]

I’m in the same boat as you, but I have also heard from plenty of people who would not change their physician career for anything. I hope having had a previous career will help me keep perspective knowing that going back to the corporate world is not something I’d like to do.

[@DrMattCooks]

You got this!! Cheering you on. Just like the neurosurgeon Goobie said, trust your gut!

[@RighteousCenturion]

Its whatever you make it, the negatives can seem so loud, its easy to forget that there are tons of physicians that love what they do and live comfortable lives. Trust Jesus and everything will work out.

[@jenjencurls]

It depends on a lot of things. Like specialty. Some specialties most people are very happy with their work, while other specialties have awful experiences. It also depends on where you work. Like rural vs big busy city even in the same specialties, those two locations have different workloads for example. It depends on your personality too. Do what your heart tells you to do!

[@Tuckedinorout]

Depends which career you want in medicine. Don't recommend the physician route

[@ButterflyBree]

I'm a health educator who had to walk away from healthcare, post pandemic. It was too stressful and started to impact my physical and mental health. What I learned from working in healthcare is that healing and illness looks different on different patients. I agree with him. The collective healthcare system is driven by profits over people's wellbeing.

[@v09181964]

Im an RT and I Totally understand this young physician. I’ve been a Reg Respiratory Therapist for almost 30 yrs. Every day I want to retire and do a what I call a “normal” job. I stick it out because I do love working with patients but I don’t like how healthcare has evolved since I graduated in 1997. It’s mainly about $$$ Hopefully in the next three years I can do what this young man is doing!!! I’ve been saving more and putting more money away so I can get to the place where I can work a “normal” job. Take care of yourself mentally physically and spiritually! Thank you Dr Webb for this video it’s been extremely helpful as well as the comments!! Blessings and Peace❤️🙏🏽

[@chrisplaymusic]

Medicine is a business just like War is a business. I learned that my first week in deployment to Afghanistan. My command sergeant major literally said “war is a business. And that is why you are here”

[@good2freelance1]

Therefore the USA is the bad guys for a long long time (it involved in almost every war for hundreds of years)

[@JaVi-mq3xn]

not for everyone buddy.

[@hjfj90]

True

[@candoriano4420]

I hope you tell that to every person that has nothing left now due to your business practices.

[@malinia.20]

Okay, but the difference is this doctor is not a war criminal. I'd say that's a pretty big and important difference. You should be ashamed to admit that you either murdered innocent people, or worked for an entity that murders innocent people and destroys lives in order to line some rich guy's pockets. Our government is committing genocide right now, and the people who are complicit try to justify their complicity by saying, "it's just my job. It's just business." If anything, that's many times worse than the alternative.

[@arravYT]

He should become a consultant.

[@celtics2008champs1]

Antonio you REALLY impress me. Thank you for all the work you do to help people. I hope that the insurance side of medicine improves, maybe legislation is a way to fix this issue. We all know if WE don't pay insurance companies it is a problem, but if THEY have to pay for our services it is a fight !!!!! I watched that video a number of days ago so it was great to hear your insights about the topic. Thank you !!!!

[@chelsearose588]

I"m heartened to see all the great responses to Dr Goobie's vid

[@796r]

That man is completely speaking facts, that’s why I had friends drop out from pharmacy schools and med school. They aren’t trying to get you healthy, they’re trying to create more problems and dependency on you to return month after month for check ups, pills, prescriptions, all without telling you to do the basics, eat right, workout, stretch, be outside, get the basics right first and then see if you need that help. 90% of the time you won’t, the body is a miracle worker in itself

[@Sam-oc2zw]

Most physicians tell patients to do the basics. How many of them actually listen. Lots of patients act like a doc doesn’t care about them because he told them to do the basics instead of prescribing something for their symptoms

[@796r]

@@Sam-oc2zw debatable. I would say majority say take this, do this, without actually getting to the root cause which is usually the things I listed. Just in my own experience with doctors over the years as well as what others say.

[@Bigcheese6875]

@@796rok tell a patient who has cancer to eat healthier and they’ll be good. Got it 👍

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

​@@Sam-oc2zwif that was true, why don't they teach nutrition in medical school?

[@carriemccurley-th8gn]

FACTS!

[@frg1237]

I don't think you addressed his most important point - doing a surgery that you KNOW won't help and doesn't make sense but will bring income for the hospital and the doctor. You just mentioned that there are SOME surgieries that do help.

[@blackkid9498]

Medicine is about money not healing people

[@lmb4876]

For some it is true.. or EGO. I was married to a cardio thoracic surgeon & he was more into his ego than his money

[@lmb4876]

Dr. Webb..thank you for your gentle analysis of this neurosurgeon ❤❤

[@phengvang1441]

Bingo. There is an inversion within the current sciences and “health” field.

[@kizarumelon2477]

@@lmb4876 ego is mainly yall white americans. probably cause yalls history is only 200 years old. dont know anything fragile

[@kizarumelon2477]

seasoned docs like those old gramp granny docs in china. u wont see ego there. but they're the best of the best

[@dbt2207]

My mental break as a nurse started when I had a panic attack while getting a hair cut. 10 months on an acute psych unit and it finally all caught up after working months through burnout. My last shift we didn’t use the bathroom or eat for 14 hours. I’m over it.

[@showthyselfapproved1st]

Understaffed. Smh

[@lolbots]

make a bed out of those sweet sweet overtime dollars, so that you know it's worth it

[@user-yv6xw7ns3o]

​@@lolbotsIt wasn't worth it for me.

[@thatfishbreeder]

May I ask where you've gone to? I am also an acute psych nurse working in the USA. Burnt out and dealing with unbelievable understaffing.

[@deborahgeer8580]

Great comment! I was a clinical bedside nurse 30 years with many many shifts no food or bathroom breaks. The public often do not believe this is possible. I assure you it is. Mentally and physically stressful !

[@uqox]

It's a very sad story. I wish there was somewhere else he could practice that was more affirming. I'm glad his wife was supportive of his happiness, and they are working to figure out this new journey.

[@bknimwakin]

During my psychiatry rotation one of my patients admitted in psychiatry ward was a former neurosurgeon at a prominent hospital in illinois.

[@peggymartin7681]

I’m enlightened and impressed with what I’ve learned from this video. It’s a stunning revelation about this neurosurgeon walking away from medicine after 20 years. I never used to think one way or another about neurosurgeons until I had to have one. My surgeon had 29 years of experience and a stellar reputation in his specialty of being a spine surgeon. I was his “ I couldn’t be more pleased with your recovery” patient. He told me it doesn’t always turn out this way. I’m thinking that a neurosurgeon that has that one patient like that would think that it’s worth it all. It seems a pity that he became so sad. 😢

[@TheVafa95]

My wife a person with normal weight in her late 40s, has or had a bulging disc. Her doctor several years ago said that it was impossible to walk around with a disc like this. After sometimes she started walking, and now after several years, she has had no problem with her lower back whatsoever.

[@karenpederson1735]

I am a PT and walking can be so good for the health of your discs and spine! Just moving as ur body allows. Getting other PT, massage, rolfing, other help as needed...

[@jennifergoodwin-hw7mt]

I’m a patient who was denied surgery from a neurosurgeon- this video was very insightful and helpful. I feel. I’m frustrated there’s no surgical fix to my physical pain but realize there’s a lot for the doctor to consider before committing to the surgery. I just wish I wasn’t given any hope from the doctor that I might get surgery and pain relief from the point of my diagnosis. Thank you for your video!

[@spycameras101]

The whole point is human body has tremendous power to heal itself given the right conditions. Hospitals don't emphasize that because there is no money in it.

[@Deebo277]

Exactly, that's what he was saying in his video. This should be what we're discussing on. How we basically poison our own people and only want to treat them pills and surgery for a profit. Never pinpointing the root cause, at least not for free.

[@tdig6546]

I watched the video this morning and find it strange to see the reaction tonight. My sister is a nurse and has been for 16 years. She is totally burned out on it. The medical care in our country is broken. The AMA does not accept homeopathy or preventive healthcare as a part of medicine. Its really sad that our food supply is run my manufactures of garbage. Its almost as if the hospitals are invested in the processed food industry.

[@fransecuro1500]

I'm a retired Respiratory Therapist with 45Yrs in a hospital setting.When I started to resent the treatment by the administrators ,and the frustration of not being able to spend quality time with patients due to staffing cuts,and working with no meals or bathroom breaks and constant computer issues.When the stress started to affect my health I retired.The hospital i worked at was for non profit,but was taken up by a group which was for profit,but at the expense of the workers.

[@AleksPTA]

A few years ago, i had a conversation with a heart surgeon based in eastern europe. To complete his training, he had to work in the US for a number of months, which he did. He described it as horrible and questioned how anyone can stay true to their hypocratic oath long term. The hospital loved him and made him an offer that added two zeros to his paycheck when converted to USD, he declined I will parathrase his words; how can i with good conciousness give 100% of my self doing 18 hour surgery on my own? In other words, it is not the profession that is to blame, definitely not the people, but the industry, they way it is structured

[@heyrobin]

I'm a nurse, and your comments demonstrate that you have a solid intellectual understanding of his circumstances. There is room in the world of medicine for expanding emotional awareness and a more humanistic attitude. As long as competition and currency are held in high regard, the medical profession will be dominated by one type of person.

[@fortissimoX]

Beautiful comment. You are great nurse, keep spreading your light of compassion! I wish you all the best.

[@Genious_Trades]

I appreciate this unbiased review of Dr. Goobie’s video 🙏

[@NurseyPooh59]

I retired instead at 62….only. RN. Started late at 38. I almost quit the first year. Nursing Supervisor for DOH when Covid hit. 🙄That did it for me. I was able to retire with a pension from the State plus I got social security the next year. I’m done.

[@soonny002]

I completely agree with you. I'm a psychiatrist in private practice, and I see doctors who are burned out from time to time. Moral injury is heavily featured in some cases, whereby there is a mismatch between what they perceive medicine ought to be and what it actually is. Society does a bad job romanticizing the profession by making shows such as Grey's Anatomy or The Good Doctor without truly acknowledging it as a business. Romanticizing it will lead to unrealistic expectations, which is a major source of burnout. I stopped working at the hospital not because I was burned out but because it was increasingly unsafe for me and my colleagues. Setting boundaries for myself meant physically doing less at work so I could go home on time, but that also exposed me to medicolegal risks and criticism from my employer. Furthermore, due to resource constraints, more clinical staff are being assaulted by patients, which created a lose-lose situation. It is unfortunate that I missed my team, and I enjoyed hospital psychiatry. My advice to all doctors is this: The best defence against burnout is to either cut down your time at work, or diversify your roles. Taking up a part time research, supervisory, or leadership position might help you develop a different perspective. Have a professional pet project like running your own pilot study. Engage in clinical governance and policy making. Help develop a new protocol to treat DVTs that is specific to your context. Things like these can make your work more interesting and less of a drudgery. And of course, always plan your vacations in advance. It's very sad to lose a neurosurgeon, one of our best and brightest. Sigh...

[@dramaturge231]

Thanks for your feedback, Dr. Webb! I wish more of my pre-med classmates understood this perspective.

[@Milz]

Thank you for properly providing context to the medical field. I'm in school currently, this helps Me to predict and make smarter decisions when I arrive.

[@lorettastubbs7865]

He saved is own life ❤

[@lemostjoyousrenegade]

🎯

[@KaareneRNHealthLifeCoach]

I am a RN of 25 years, and I do get very discouraged because so many of my Patients don’t t want to make self improvement changes and there is a lack of self responsibility in their health. A lot of people want a quick fix.. meds, surgery, etc. so I get how that gentleman got discouraged. I left bedside and went to home health and then to nurse coaching.

[@karindodge9814]

100% I work with Oncology patients and many are that way. People cry about needing Universal Healthcare, but they don't understand that those systems hold patients accountable for health choices. They don't do Cardiac Surgery on Obese Smokers until they show they're making lifestyle choices. That's why a long waitlist for procedures and why those who can afford it have private insurance.

[@KaareneRNHealthLifeCoach]

@@karindodge9814 and the poor in America get 100% of all their care FREE!! Including medication, ER visits and surgeries. The middle class entrepreneurs are the only ones that struggle with costly insurance cost so we shouldn’t charge the whole system..we just need to figure out ( fine tune) how to make insurance a bit cheaper for private middle class individuals.

[@MariettaGuido]

I think Dr. Goodie is a brave young man. After 27 years working in the healthcare business, I agree with this young Doctor. It is a very discouraging system.

[@delmar1387]

I developed idiopathic hip neck and back pain from poor exercise habits and posture, just basic stuff from living the normal lifestyle of a healthy active person. I for sure didn’t weigh 300 lbs, was not diabetic, ate great, all that. I was always a strong guy, college athlete, super active, and this happened to me at 30. It has taken me two years to work my way out of this, but so much of it was trauma and lifestyle. I’ve learned a ton. I have a friend who is a neurosurgeon who I saw over this previous Fourth of July. I was explaining to him all that I had gone through and learned, and he remarked “wow, it’s very lucky you stayed out of the medical system. If you had gone with the usual protocol, you would’ve ended up in my office in your early 30s, prescribed a synthetic form of heroin, and looking for a surgery that I could technically do but might not even help you. Worst case scenario, you could catch me or a colleague on a bad day and we could accidentally paralyze you for the rest of your life.“

[@ricardogarzamaldonado5080]

I understand Dr Dubbie about his way of thinking! I am a Retinal Surgeon and when you are dealing with neuronal tissue you can not predict succes eventhough surgery went flawless

[@misscecilia2190]

I have 18 years old Down syndrome son, had heart surgery at 6 months old. Talking about stress levels in our own human life, just had to have sailings through it.Prayers to all 🙏🙏🙏

[@santarosa6676]

I worked as hospitalist and outpatient primary care for 30 years. 35 years if you include Med School. Retired last year from a salaried position. By the end I was extremely unhappy with the machine of medicine. We physicians have become a gaslighted commodity. Easily manipulated and overworked. I now work a few 1/2 days a week and have rediscovered the joy in patient care. I am my own boss and am free to leave a job if it becomes toxic. 100% of my time is now doing rewarding patient care. Difference is the business manager no longer owns me. Crazy to mention, but unionize??

[@ootenyafoo6935]

Patient point of view: STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM ALL DOCTORS!!! The medical industrial complex is only interested in two things - minimize the threat of litigation and MAXIMIZE profits. Our "health care" system is predetory and broken. Have a great day.

[@tonywright8342]

Yep totally agree.

[@malinia.20]

As a disabled person who was applying to med school before my illnesses worsened, this is the truth. A for-profit "healthcare system" is not a healthcare system at all.

[@SuperAngelic5]

Started out as a social worker in a large hospital in the 90s. We would actually provide counseling to patients. Hospitals were changing and profits became the driving force. Surgeries are profitable and hospitals began to focus on that. There was a time when greed was not the driving force. Nothing wrong with making a profit, but now it is about greed. They closed my unit, and I was laid off. The profit that year for our unit was 2 million dollars which is nothing for hospital administrators and investors. I now am a counselor in private practice, and I help doctors and nurses to figure out their next steps. There is no shortage of doctors and nurses which propaganda. There is a shortage of ethics and morals in medicine.

[@ksflyer7661]

Thank you for giving this level headed review. Dr. Goobie hit a nerve for all of us that resonates, good to get additional thoughts from you on this topic.

[@CSI426]

Thank you for clarifying and confirming Dr. Goobie's comments. I think having a spouse who is not materialistic or a big spender is important in supporting a husband who wants to quit his job. Dr. Goobie was able to find peace by walking away from a toxic working environment, largely thanks to his wife.

[@valdroz]

He gain the insights most of us lack and the rest of us should be utterly happy for him

[@naveedrehman2987]

No disrespect to anyone working in healthcare field but a lot of doctor visits are attributed sedentary lifestyle, poor diet, little to no excercise, smoking cigarettes or chewing tobacco products, dehydration etc

[@mpakempake3235]

Thank you for your professional, unbiased and objective critic of that video.That was very respectful!! ✋🙌🙌

[@OMZCapital]

Really SOLID points! Appreciate you taking the time to do this! 💯💯

[@antoniowebbmd]

Any time!

[@alwynlouis4371]

Its a sad state in the medical field where doctors get to this breaking point,after spending so many years training.At the end of the day,do what gives you peace.

[@philip7833]

I think young people in general are realizing the pointless greed of generations past. Being a doctor affords you a great lifestyle, but it reaches a point of diminishing return. More people are realizing that the extra money isn't worth the extra stress and hours.

[@MichaelWalker-ej7dm]

Disagree. Sounds typical of someone with tremendous brains, but no surgical skills. He should’ve picked a different specialty.

[@phantom17300]

The problem is that insurance companies dictate outcomes.

[@dgasmd1]

@@philip7833 You are very wrong here, and I know you'll hate hearing it. I can tell by your worlds you are not a physician. Hardly any doctor goes into medicine making calculations of income or status. It is simply what we are drawn to based on what we like and where we think we can excel. Doing good is a very welcomed bonus to most. You just don't realize the math of time investment made vs the outcome necessary to "make you happy", and happy is defined very differently by most. Today's generation of people getting into medicine (all sides from MD to RN to others) is very very different with different ideals of right or wrong than it was 20 or 30 years ago. Night and day in so many ways. I am a doctor and do hire other doctors and can tell you the simplest of things are nigh/day different in outlook between a 35 y.o MD and a 55 y.o MD. I take a chitty 55 y.o MD any day before taking a 35 y.o super MD on paper. At least I know the 55 one will show up to work on time and that's a pretty crappy low bar!!

[@Lovebirdd]

@@philip7833 this exactly. there are studies that observed there is a diminishing return on money--after a certain salary, people are not necessarily happier with more, but are less happy with less. hint: it's much lower than what doctors make.

[@199496db]

Dr. Goobie is soo lucky to have found such a good and understanding wife. That’s far more valuable than your career..career seem important until you shed of the stupid notion “what others think you “ which is a temporary illusion you soon get out of ..

[@jcnlaw]

Excellent video. I appreciate your insight and commentary.

[@paulis7319]

I live in a small town and take care of my mom. Every time we drive by her doctor's office she looks over and says "wow look at the full parking lot, he's really busy cause he's such a good doctor." I just shake my head and say "no, mom, he's busy because he keeps you and everyone else coming back." Side note: He's the same doctor who prescribed me Vioxx in the 90's for arthritis (at age 26) and he swore it was the best thing since sliced bread, even though my heart was thumping all over the place with irregular rhythms.

[@mauibuilder1239]

Great advice for anyone relating to career, life, etc.

[@andreavanda5402]

All I have to say, is that a profit based healthcare system, which is focused on money, will never be something that provides optimal healing for patients. And that is ultimately what people go to the doctor for, to be healed from their illnesses. Therefore, people need to find an alternative way, like naturopathy or holistic medicine and leave this broken, harmful, and greedy system behind.

[@malinia.20]

But unfortunately these other fields, like naturopathy and holistic medicine, are also for-profit industries. And pseudoscientific hacks tend to flock to those fields to make money off of people who are desperate because the conventional healthcare system failed them. In a capitalist system, there is nothing that is not profit-based.

[@veneta72]

Antonio seems like a super solid, collected and unique guy. Would love to be able to bring to this guy issues im working through - I think he’d have a great approach and energy

[@jdstep97]

I really don't know a lot of doctors, but I do know lots of nurses. Many of them would argue that "entitled patients" push a lot of them out of the nursing field. Also, weird hours. There's always a shortage of staff. The nurses who report for work end of working ridiculously long hours.

[@azorakai4428]

Nice of you to be supportive and honest

[@zchats26]

It’s also the medical politics. As a med student, dealing with the technicalities of medicine as a business and hierarchical environment is tiresome. “You need XYZ grade”, “you need XYZ research”, “this exam cost $$$$”, “that conference isn’t covered.” You get burnt out and then the only hope you have is “okay. But I’ll really be making a difference one day!” Then boom: insurance complications, socioeconomic factors that you can’t control, patients who can’t pay the bill after. The system has to change holistically

[@dmoore2272]

I’m glad you spoke on this and made patients aware of the medical industry and insurance industry. I’m also glad you touched on financial literacy. Most importantly your happiness is more important than anything.

[@holidayarmadillo8653]

Thank you so much Dr Webb. I’ve seen the thumbnail for that gentleman’s video for a number of weeks now to be honest, however I have never clicked on it because I didn’t want it to have the wrong effect on my mentality. Seeing that you did a reaction to the video I knew I would be more willing to listen if I could hear your opinion as well. Your wise responses helped me put everything into perspective and I wouldn’t have watched his video if you didn’t 😂. Thanks, Dr. Webb.

[@aaronvu6292]

He is not unemployed. He's actually self-employed. And he's in the place right now that he can help people physically and mentally. As the doctor was saying: He found peace. God bless Dr. Goobie.

[@wais0509]

I always trust a doctor who says Medicine is a business. The honesty.

[@Fraciencwa94]

And you don't trust one who says it ain't. What do you expect doctors to get after all those years. Politicians earn out of nothing and now it's on doctors that you draw the line

[@wais0509]

@@Fraciencwa94 are you a dishonest doctor?.. Why so mad?.. Did I say I dont trust those doc?

[@Fraciencwa94]

@@wais0509 no I'm not. Thanks for the clarification

[@gregjon2260]

Outstanding Advice Doc, lots of people need life advice. We should take this on the road. 😊

[@emmainjapan]

I appeciate your response so much, Dr. Webb. It made sense to me. Thank you.

[@antoniowebbmd]

You are very welcome

[@Alinagaeta]

I enjoyed your comments and insight in the medical field.

[@Caroline-pb8xx]

Thank you for sharing. I was afraid to watch Dr. Goobie's video as I'm in school to be a surgical technician. When I saw that you posted a reaction video, I felt much more comfortable watching. What you do for a living is incredible, and I hope in the future you recieve more rewarding experiences that encourage you to advocate for yourself and find peace with the work that you do.

[@sportsguy569]

best react video ive seen on Dr. Goobies viral video well done! learned a lot

[@quantquill]

I watched the original video and this reaction as someone facing potential surgery, working with an ENT specialist whose first suggestion was a thyroidectomy and being on pills the rest of my life, after a 5 minute meeting and before seeing test results. I have a 7 cm nodule in my neck on the left, pressing against my esophagus. But he asked for biopsies only on 2 smaller nodules in the right side. No evidence of cancer or anything else abnormal in the biopsies and ultrasound. He still recommended complete removal at our second meeting. I kept asking questions, trying to understand my options. Is there a way to shrink the nodules? "No." How fast will they grow? "I can't see rhe future." (One word or snarky answers.) Finally I asked if he could remove only the very large nodule. He looked surprised. "Yes, I can." That wasn't even going to be an option on the table until I asked. Now he's referring me to an endocrinologist to learn about taking pills the rest of my life to control hyperthyroidism, and sending me for another biopsy of the two largest nodules on the left side. So frustrating that he didn't have all the biopsies done at the same time, that he was so sure I would agree to the surgery. I asked, "Will insurance start denying my claims with all these tests you're ordering, and the referral to yet another specialist?" Again, the surprised expression. "No, of course not. This is an established pathway for patient care." I wonder if he'd be recommending this path if I had worse insurance.

[@columbuschokpa8791]

When I started watching your vlog, I was not sure if I would watch till the end because more often than not, reactions like this focus on casting aspersions, criticising bitterly and generally aiming at running down the person that steps out of the line. I was wrong! Thank you for being so honest and objective.👍 from Nigeria 🇳🇬

[@vinadamsllc]

Good reaction. There are five things to be mindful of: diet, movement, rest, recreation, and relationships.

[@truthseeker1009]

Hats off to our doctors for their dedication to the medical profession. As a society we must do better to serve them if we want to continue to have the world's best health care.

[@naveedrehman2987]

I’m no expert here but I think a lot of “doctors” are burnt out and or stressed but are too ashamed to admit it because if they admit it they looked at as “weak.”

[@Phuspak]

Dr Webb, your insights on the video are spot on and resonate well with my own thoughts & feelings! Thank you!!

[@clair233]

Thank you for your honesty and for speaking about this

[@leupang]

Great commentaries. I agree that we need to find a way to release stress.

[@countzulu99]

Visited you with my grandma a few years ago. Thought you were really cool and now after watching I think you’re badass

[@antoniowebbmd]

🙏🏾