I'm conflicted...Watching GAME OF THRONES~8x05'' The Bells ''For The FIRST Time

[@jagvillani338]

Ser Davos in Season 2: "I've never known bells to mean surrender."

[@ziva9266]

D&D: “we kind of forgot…”

[@beesmitty3435]

Thank God this is the first comment was about to make it.. Whose character arc was MOST eviscerated this episode, Jamie? Daenyrs? Tyrion? I'ma go with my girl brienne getting literally fucked over.

[@WLDB]

​@@ziva9266 Beat me to it. But yeah. I don't get how they could make such basic continuity errors. You'd think that script would have went by someone who would point it out.

[@izattyu6863]

Prey tell - what the hell was Varys doing? If he succeeded in killing Dany, doesn’t that mean Cersi stays on the throne? Darthraki don’t ride for John. The Unsullied don’t ride for John. Drogon ain’t his. How was he planning on defeating Cersi? Although Dany got screwed the upmost, I nominate Varys a close second. 🙄

[@avonbarksdale91]

does that really bother you?

[@Randy-jq1pi]

Euron: I'm the one who killed Jamie Lannister Bricks: Tell Euron it was us

[@divinelangene6813]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@strangebotwin-]

This is one of the main things that really gets me about this disaster of ending to the series. Jamie and Cersei die from falling bricks?! Gotta be fucking kidding me

[@NiKiMa023]

Oh no! This made me actually LoL!

[@eonym4103]

Samwell Tarly has a higher kill-count than the whole Golden Company lol

[@pjfsr7024]

Hell Sansa has a higher kill count.

[@derps0n839]

A lot of people forget he was the first to kill a white walker. He also killed Thenns.

[@jaybird8192]

The Golden Company were as useful as teets on a Bull!!!

[@perseusveil9376]

@@pjfsr7024 Hell the starving skinny dude that took apart the high septon during the riots against Joffrey has a higher count.

[@AldoMorales7673]

@@derps0n839 *Thenn

[@onitob3125]

Tyrion is officially the tallest Lannister!

[@ileamonster]

HELP

[@ConsciousStoner08]

No😂

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

lamest joke ever. And there are still other Lannisters.

[@Vffjjtt]

@@johnnyskinwalker4095source

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

@@Vffjjtt Casterly Rock

[@newtonowaga2250]

The part I liked the most was how Arya used a GTA cheat code to spawn a horse..

[@Ziel23987]

Shhh, don't complain. Roach could have spawned in the Red Keep.

[@fouff925]

That was the “lord of light” getting her an escape out of there basically

[@rakdar1714]

D&D kinda forgot Nymeria was a direwolf

[@SentientPotatoXIII]

Not GTA, Red Dead Redemption

[@jackson857]

And then uses another cheat code to make it disappear at the beginning of the next episode.

[@itsnotrael]

"Can he at least say something other than 'She's my queen'"? nope, that's his entire season 8 script right there. That and "I don't want it"

[@divinelangene6813]

😂😂😂😂😂I don't want it😂😂😂

[@Raminagrobisfr]

"she is my queen" Jon is basically Hodor now

[@luigicavallo270]

SHE IS MY QUEEN SHE IS MY QUEEN SHE IS MY QUEEN SHE MY QUEEN SHE MY QUEEN SHE QUEEN SHE QUEEN SHEEN SHEEN!

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

I Don Wan It

[@b-six-twelve]

Appreciate Sofie for her comments on Varys. Everyone complained about more major characters’ issues, but I didn’t hear nearly enough about the *master of whisperers* committing treason in broad daylight over the years. This to me was one of season eight’s biggest sins.

[@avonbarksdale91]

He told Dany he would do this if he felt like she wasn’t doing her job. She told him she would burn him alive if he committed treason…. PAY ATTENTION.

[@b-six-twelve]

@@avonbarksdale91 He told Dany he would tell her if she were wrong, and he did, and she didn’t listen. He doesn’t serve the people of the realm if he gets himself killed. YOU PAY ATTENTION, Lack of Social Skills. His death meant nothing because Jon’s claim to the throne ended up being meaningless.

[@cathleenwarner1778]

It was the cause of Dany going mad@@b-six-twelve

[@Kris-xv7ll]

I remember when Arya said to the hound before the red wedding that “One day, I’m going to put a sword through your eye and out the back of your skull” ….and the hound did just that to his brother!

[@MrYoungGun100]

‘Daenarys got queen-zoned.’ 😂😂😂

[@lojo1454]

Believe me. I saw more of Golden Company in the trailers than the episodes!!😂

[@mamakat114]

When Arya says 'Sandor' 'thank you' I bawl like a baby. Especially where it started with him gently putting his hand lovingly on the back of her head. Kills me. Most beautiful moment of their partnership

[@silvervelcroo6129]

Drogon must have thought that that was a dinner bell LOL

[@pjfsr7024]

Dany and Grey Worm made their decision when they burned Missandei's collar.

[@ecranos3291]

Bran Stark: I'm the most uselles chacter in this season... Golden Company: Nah bro

[@beesmitty3435]

The golden company becoming king of the scene kingdoms would have been equally as satisfying an ending.

[@Ziel23987]

@@beesmitty3435 Considering that that in the books they were mostly Blackfyre loyalists... No, that would actually make some sense. Sure, hardly anyone would want (book spoiler below) to actually conquer Westeros, but at least that's somewhat plausible. "Aegon VI"

[@rkempo]

The Hounds death always gets my chin to wobble. So poetic. Finally got his revenge after so many years, well deserved.

[@alejandroroldanortega819]

Varys: "I've always hated the bells. They ring for horror, a dead king, a city under siege". And now, a dragon that burn them all.

[@moralarf3083]

Varys: Nothing? Girl: She won’t eat. Varys: We’ll try again at supper. Girl: I think they’re watching me. Varys: with great risk comes great reward! Yes, Varys was trying to poison Dany with the help of his little bird

[@ob4ra]

I was today years old when I picked that up.

[@tjkrueger2655]

@@ob4ra Same... I'm ashamed

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

@@tjkrueger2655 Me too. And I’ve always prided myself as one who paid very close attention to this show & the dialogue..🤦‍♂️

[@ibrahimmustafa2481]

​@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 it's ok, bad writing can confuse anyone. 😂

[@SerbAtheist]

It would have been a fine addition if they had shown Dany handing over Varys a bag with someone's head in it, implying it's the little girl's head. It would have been an interesting final stepping stone to Dany going rogue because after all, even though she's a child, this little bird tried to poison Dany.

[@terpcj]

I think back to Daenerys Stormborn of the many titles returning to Dragonstone...army, ships, and dragons. And I think about Olenna's advice about to whom to listen. This episode shows how easily Dany could have just taken the throne with her initial more direct strategy and stayed at full strength to face whatever was to come. Would she have defeated the army of the dead? Who knows. But she definitely would have had all her resources. To that end, as much as I like Tyrion, his allegiance to his family (intentional or otherwise) caused Dany a lot of problems. Being "more of the same" seems like it might have been the less bad choice to this point. She might not even have snapped.

[@SerbAtheist]

Yes, she would have won it, but if Mereen is any indication, none of it would have mattered. Sooner or later, she'd come in conflict with the north. Sooner or later, she'd demand a level of compliance and obedience that the culture of Westeros would simply be unable to give. Sooner or later, her harsh form of 'justice' would raise concerns even among her closest allies, further exacerbating her paranoia and escalating this brand of violence even further. Sooner or later, she'd simply be bored by the day to day realities of ruling and wish to conquer further. Sooner or later, Jon's heritage would be uncovered. Sooner or later, her promises of 'breaking the wheel' would ring as hollow as Xaro's giant vault. Sooner or later her dragons would reduce a city to ash.

[@alejandroroldanortega819]

Olenna's advice was selfish and not with Daenerys' best interest in mind. Olenna didn't care about the people of Westeros and who would be the better king or queen, Olenna's goal was to get revenge on Cersei, and the fastest way to do that was "Be a dragon".

[@Nihilanth]

being a Dany stan is like 50% hating it cause it didn't make sense and 50% liking it cause she served it

[@justbeyondmythoughts]

LMAO this tho is a whole ass mood

[@cathleenwarner1778]

It did, she went mad like half of her family, signs were always there.

[@Nihilanth]

@@cathleenwarner1778 that's exactly why I said "being a Dany Stan", you're not, so this is not bout u. and "half of her family" lmao!! quote at least 5 out of all 150+ Targaryens born in westeros.

[@grrrrbabyverygrrr8165]

Her snapping would have been more credible had they built it over about 1 season at least, not 2 episodes.

[@mymaynee5963]

god the acting, music, cinematography, everything is so good. Except the writing ruining 99% of the characters 😔

[@aedryk]

truly high school levels of talent

[@UnluckyGambler]

"can he say something other than 'you're my queen'?" we all feel that. lol.

[@CarloRodriguez10]

The connection between Arya and Sandor was absolutely amazing.

[@nvldsnd4889]

The Arya foreshadowing actually paid off... Cersei was killed by no one

[@Kilo80Kilo]

And Jamie died in the arms of the woman he loved. Wonder if his brother goes in bed, at the age of 80, with a belly full of mead and a ...

[@jellalfernandes1309]

I am so glad you understood Daenerys so well

[@softtendril]

Your perspective on Daenerys' decision was really interesting. I've seen a lot of GoT reactions, but I think yours is the first I've seen react to this specific decision in a neutral way and really contextualized everything.

[@Nicamon]

I still think it's too forced to make someone like Daenerys to take revenge on the whole city *except* Cersei *after they surrendered!* I also tried to think of an alternative solution that would have made that kind of"snap"more plausible and I thought of this:let's say Dany hears the bells,she and her men let their guards down and 1 Lannister soldier(who we should assume is particularly loyal to Cersei)kills Greyworm. *That* would be a plausible"final straw"that breaks Dany's mental state. But this way I don't buy it. She could fly straight to the Red Keep without burning the whole city below her. It would have made more sense!X-[

[@alejandroroldanortega819]

@@Nicamon The Dany's mental state is already broken since the first second of the episode. Kill Greyworm to justify what? She already has reasons to do what she does. Adding more dead teammates wasn't going to help improve her character development at this point. The city is full of Lannister soldiers and citizens who don't love her. They are all enemies for her. She is a conqueror as Daario told her. Now more than ever.

[@Nicamon]

@@alejandroroldanortega819 She was never loved straight away in *any* of the places she conquered before. Why is it different this time?I believe no king has ever conquered a place _peacefully_ but it's what you do *after* you've conquered it that counts. She managed to do well so far...this is the 1st time she snaps on common people just because she isn't instantly beloved. #NotMyDaenerys

[@orton305]

I believe new GOT watchers will have a similar perspective in the future and the ending will be more and more liked in the GOT fandom.

[@softtendril]

@@orton305 Yeah, I got my brother to watch GoT for the first time last year and when he finished it he didn't understand why it was hated so much either. I think there's an echo chamber surrounding the last two seasons online.

[@marleymarsss]

You know the funny thing about Varys, he does choose sides, he chose to stand with the Mad King, even got him to go against Rhaegar, he chooses Robert and then he chooses Jon while he’s in the Queens Court. He’s not this selfless guy that everyone makes him out to be

[@yusufraage8554]

sure...

[@marleymarsss]

@@yusufraage8554 clearly don’t read the books I see lol

[@yusufraage8554]

@@marleymarsss You do?

[@eds464]

"jaime died like an addict" wow well said.

[@BhBc8f8]

pretty much. it was so dumb. Even sober addicts have a change, a trigger, a reason they slip back. Jaime had none of that. He left because he realized their values no longer aligned since she wasn't acting in the best interests of the country so why did he go back? did Cersei change her mind? no. did she apologize? no. did she interact with him at all? no. so what changed? I think the writers were trying to say that Jaime finally saw what life looks like without Cersei and he didn't like it because deep down he's just as "hateful" as Cersei and realized that he should be with her regardless of their conflict in values.....which is just....no words.

[@xellestar]

About how Dany 'controls' Drogon, going off memory as it has been a while but the books describe how certain people have a kind of telepathic connection to animals. Some notable examples from the show are wargs, who can literally 'skinchange' an animal. Bran is one (and is so powerful he can even skinchange a person) and one of the wildlings from season 2 was one, the guy who was controlling an eagle. In the books, pretty much all of the starks are wargs to some degree - not just Bran, though everyone except Bran has limited experiences with it. The other starks have 'wolf dreams' (especially Arya who has an extended sequence described) where they unconsciously warg into their wolves while sleeping, even if the wolf is far away. Anyway, while i don't think it's said that targaryans are wargs exactly, I think it's said that in the past they had a somewhat similar connection to their dragons when they are riding them, sometimes to the point where a dragon will feel the pain of its rider if the rider was shot by an arrow or something. I don't know if the writers had all of this in mind but it's some kind of explanation at least in book lore.

[@deriuk4412]

I'd rather have had the Night King kill everyone that what we got.

[@Nicamon]

Same!! I actually thought of that as a plausible ending before watching S8!

[@grife3000]

Team comet.

[@LS13.]

I mean let’s be honestly it still makes sense though, she showed signs of madness very subtly the entire show. Yes it’s not the best ending and way too fast but her finally losing it makes sense. She came to a land that hated her, finally getting to a goal that was based on the legend of her family which conquered the land as well, believing that she was the greatest and deserved it all based on that…… that alone is slightly concerning

[@Nicamon]

@@LS13. She was also initially hated and distrusted in the cities she has conquered before and yet she managed to prove she was worthy of it. Why had it to be different this time?I think no king conquered any reign _peacefully_ but it's what you do *after* you've conquered it that counts.

[@redbedroom8815]

Agreed

[@josephmccauslin]

Thanks for watching Buffy with us. I know this has nothing to do with Buffy, but I thought I would talk about a better show instead.

[@fernandof.2225]

one more episode reaction from beautiful SoFie. She was seeing the little clues even in the middle of so much drama. Great reactions on this episode.

[@dmille1959]

14:00 "Bran's vision" ❤

[@jasmineg_63]

16:03 Cersei said IF SHE WANTS THE THRONE SHE'LL HAVE TO KLL INNOCENT PEOPLE. Cersei underestimated her and that's that. 🫠

[@dansiegel333]

“Jamie- he died like an addict. “ So well expressed. This also sheds light on her name- she is Circe bewitching Jamie’s Odysseus, keeping him from his heroic journey. But your observation shows that such a relationship involves the willing participation of the addict, turning an epic hero into a tragic one in the classical sense.

[@madisonmckenzie3831]

Feel conflicted. I remember feeling very numb the first time I watched the last 4 episodes. Now I settle with disappointment 😅

[@Nicamon]

I settle with rage.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@beesmitty3435]

Mostly numb, w moment of unbridled rage lol, keep telling myself it's just a show, don't care so much, then a scene w Jamie pops up "never cared for innocent or otherwise" Me: "WTFAAARRGGGGHHHRGHRJFJFJFOSKQUSHDHXPSBXVWIFJFJD'KDKFBDHLJFJ"

[@Nicamon]

@@beesmitty3435 Makes me want to play the bath scene with Brienne in front of him to refresh his memory!!X-#

[@aedryk]

Just be glad you aren't one of the thousands of fans that named their daughters Khaleesi before this series ended lmao

[@Nicamon]

@@aedryk I still think it's a pretty fascinating name. And you can always specify that S8 Daenerys is"not your Daenerys"like I do! I literally wanted to draw the 7 Daenerys around a table with the Targaryen symbol on it glaring at S8 Daenerys and telling her:"You can't sit with us!😡💢"Just saying.

[@PhilippineNerd4372]

Lena never won an Emmy for Cersei Lannister, what a crime

[@English_MoFo]

Playing a bitch isn't exactly inspirational

[@bigmickmcattack]

Daenerys got Queenzoned. Great line!! 😂😂😂

[@brianbaratheon]

The Khaleesi did nothing wrong. Listening to others got 2 of her dragons killed and her best friend beheaded right in front of her. She became the Dragon she always was, and she was right to do it!

[@АлексейСурков-ю3н]

The last season of this show is a peace of sheat.

[@jontastic]

The dragon/rider connection is like that in Avatar, symbiotic. The dragon makes a connection to its human until one or the other dies.

[@RealNelsonC]

Varys says in Season 2 Episode 9: "I've always hated the bells". Seems like a prediction that he would die in the episode "The Bells". 😉😉

[@JigInsane]

I am soooooooo glad of what you said about Dany at the end. I love Dany, but this was not a surprise to me or my brother that watched with me. We hoped she wouldn't, but weren't surprised when she did. I also feel like the last instance of preventing this would've been Jon giving a more compelling reason than "you're my queen" and when she truly felt alone, unloved, betrayed etc, she told him, "fear it is" no matter what happened, no one loved her more than others who ppl wanted more than her. She was spiraling and everyone that could've caught her and course corrected l, either died or she didn't trust anymore. "A targaryan, lost & alone in the world is a dangerous thing"

[@0cidd0]

Remember when dragons didn’t explode rock with fire like in harenhall? I think d&d kinda forgot about that. Now just a simple breath com destroy a gate and everything

[@goitsionemagonare5601]

"With fire and blood I will take it"

[@Nicamon]

"I didn't come here to be Queen of the Ashes."

[@queenxx1690]

Btw she never said that or threat anyone to get into the city in book she was invited to Quart unlike in show

[@kevinbernardini1293]

“The blood of my enemies, not the innocent”

[@alejandroroldanortega819]

@@kevinbernardini1293 At the end, the citizens of King's Landing were not innocent to her. They chose Cersei. Nobody wanted Daenerys in Westeros, so the concept of innocents became relative, and the enemies grew.

[@timmaytargaryen]

I love this episode, it’s so beautifully shot and the graphics are top notch. I know people complain about the writing and say it didn’t make sense for Daenerys to do what she did, but tbh, it makes complete sense. They pushed her too far, why should she care about if they surrendered or not? Now they’re dead and the new people of Kings Landing (her supporters) love her.

[@Nicamon]

Why should she care?The one who we saw traveling around freeing slaves?Since WHEN she does not care about the peoples' well being?!? I _could_ have accepted this kind of"snap"if,for example,she heared the bells,she and her men let their guards down and 1 Lannister soldier(who we should assume is particularly loyal to Cersei)killed Greyworm. That could have been a plausible"final straw"to break Dany's mental state. But this way I don't buy it. She could fly straight to the Red Keep without burning the whole city below her. It would have made more sense!X-[

[@timmaytargaryen]

@@Nicamon Those were free men and women screaming in terror of her in King’s Landing, not slaves. The free men were crucified in Essos too. If they had chosen to follow her, cheer her on to kill Cersei, maybe things would’ve been different. Instead she decided to let it be fear, and she’s a scary motherfucker that no one was gonna fuck with after what she did. Her only flaw came afterwards.

[@Katakuri_08]

It makes sense but the execution was shit. everything happens too fast. Perharps GRMM was right about making atleast 10 seasons instead of this bullcrap s7 and s8 thanks to D&D

[@timmaytargaryen]

@@Katakuri_08 Time passes in the show but we don’t see it, it’s not like a week after Daenerys gets to Westeros she destroys King’s Landing. What was shown makes sense for the character.

[@Nicamon]

@@Katakuri_08 I liked S7. S8 is the problem.

[@boomieboo]

Love seeing reactions to this episode because nearly everyone who was seemingly (especially women who at least outwardly pretending to be) against Jamie and Cersei being a couple for the entirety of the series, finally accepts them being together. You could see the moment when they finally get it. They go from (supposedly) being disgusted to actually being moved by their companionship and love for one another. And it's always great.

[@jeffburnham6611]

Another episode where we have Arya running away through crowds when most around her are dying.

[@SarahTheBloody]

Jaime's character development was a really great one. He's taken some real hard hits on his journey to get away from his past self, and then the writers just piss all over it. No, Cersei didn't deserve that ending, she deserved much much worse after everything she's done. Arya should have gotten to kill her. I've been "rewatching" this show through your reactions and damn, I can now with a good conscience say that I never will again. I will never forgive the writers for this fucking shit.

[@MarkFaust]

26:08 "And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And its rider’s name was Death."

[@JarinCOD]

Jaime doesn't care about people, lol. Whole arc gone.

[@sefirotsgame]

He never did. He killed the Mad King when he ordered him to kill his own father. We'll never know if he would have done the same just to save the regular people. Maybe he would have just "send them his regards"...

[@SerbAtheist]

It was a classic case of sh*ttalking, Jaime being cocky to try to deflect praise because he doesn't feel worthy and lessen the emotional impact of the moment. Tyrion sees right through it.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

He never did but dumb redemption suckers wanted to believe every lie he told others on the way. Now they show their stupidity on the Internet.

[@shawnredmond8402]

One of the most emotional episodes unironically in hindsight. It's like a dark, terrible, haunting beauty. Now matter how hard Dany stans coped and seethed, the buildup was all there for seasons. Every character ended up exactly where they were always ended up. Especially Cersei and Jaime. A better ending than any face swapping cringe that the purists had mapped out in their headcannon.

[@maxwellgadsden4522]

Your a fucking idiot, it's not where they ended up but how they got there.

[@justbeyondmythoughts]

LMFAO keep lying to yourself! When the author doesn’t even agree with this ending it’s quite hilarious to see y’all keep making up bullshit excuses

[@justbeyondmythoughts]

No character ended up where they were supposed to be post s4 honey they literally cut out ALL of what dorne was actually doing but again keep lying to yourself!

[@jwil5870]

How r u my beautiful Sofie🥰 i miss you for several days you haven't show up..now im so happy to see you again🤗..take care always🥰

[@Muskaan789]

honestly what was vary's plan? if dany dies, her armies and drogon leave. then what can they do to take the throne from cersei? how exactly was he planning to make jon sit the throne with a small north army? Or am I missing something? did he have a large army to overthrow cersei stacked somewhere?

[@jcompton8507]

Just another example of how D&D's scripts for the last few seasons made no sense whatsoever.

[@raymondgraber9629]

In a way, Jamie and Cersei's deaths were poetic, I think. They were twins and they died next to each other just as they were in the womb.

[@Kilo80Kilo]

Jamie always said he wanted to die in the arms of the woman he loved.

[@Nicamon]

@@Kilo80Kilo I'm happy that the twins died the way they did 💞 (even if Cersei doesn't deserve it!😑💢)but I *really* would have wanted Jamie to *not* sleep with Brienne!!Their BROTP dynamic was *sensational* and so was their romantic tension,but it should have remained just that...unresolved tension. The way they handled them in the end it's unfair for both of them, but expecially Brienne!!X-((( 💔

[@beesmitty3435]

Lmao, so poetry is dying w anyone you shared a womb with? What poetry you reading?

[@Neddoest]

I was less bothered by their deaths than the way he got back to Kingslanding in the first place. I got whiplash from how fast Jaime turned around.

[@ob4ra]

Danny should have killed the Night King(true fire v ice), move Arya's moment to killing Cersei. Jamie should have survived and started rearing pigs or some shit. Bran always knew that city was done for.

[@davidgorman994]

After the deaths of the dragons, it was nice seeing Drogon get some revenge at the start

[@mimmo4762]

Cersey was showrunners' favourite character, and they forced that "happy" ending at the cost of devolving Jaime. I felt enraged. I also felt that Daenerys's snap was too fast and too much to interprete it as an organic developement, but there will be more to talk about in the final episode.

[@avonbarksdale91]

Lady Olenna " BE A DRAGON" Missandei " Dracarys" Dario called her a conquerer in season 5 or 6. This didn't just come out of nowhere.

[@Yakerina]

@@avonbarksdale91 It's the OMG this season is only 8 episodes that presented a problem. The people she'd rescued from slavery understood.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

Redemption suckers will never accept that Jaime's story was never meant to be what they wanted. They are the second dumbest part of the audience after Danidiots.

[@mimmo4762]

@@avonbarksdale91 season 7 and 8 were shot together. Even then, signs of snapping only appear in season 8. "Be a dragon" from Olenna didn't mean spitting fire on harmless civilians only. As a fact, she did just that. She did NOT fire to the army sacrificing innocents in the process to show strenght (Olenna probably meant that): she burned innocents directly. It has nothing to do with conquering. In fact, conquerors does NOT destroy their future domains: what she did was the literal exact opposite of what conquerors do. Yes, it came out of nowhere. She will also give that delirious speech in the next episode, confirming she didn't just snapped momentarily: she turned completely to the dark side within hours, and you know it. So, what are you talking about?

[@avonbarksdale91]

@@mimmo4762 This is game of thrones…. Nobody in this show cares about the innocent people living in kings landing except for Tyrion and sir Davos. Cersi blew up the sept with the wildfire that danys dad had out throughout the city lol Dany has always wanted to burn up kings landing all along but was talked out of it by her Westeros born advisors. It’s very clear to her that nobody in Westeros fucks with her because she’s a foreign invader in there eyes. So yeah In that moment after she’s lost everything sitting on that dragon ALONE and she hears those bells ringing. It’s TOO LATE. You going to use these people against me so I won’t kill you cersi?!? Guess what my people are the Dothraki and unsullied. We’ll start over.

[@abdurrehmanali7]

I don’t support incest in real life but…Damn it Jon…4:38…couldn’t you take one for the team dude!😂

[@randybitah994]

STOP IT!!! 😂

[@johnnyactionspacepnk]

May 12 is the 4 year anniversary of this episode airing. Kismet you'd land on it 4 years later.

[@BenDavis25]

I always saw the Dany turn coming i had more of a problem with how they did the rightful king Jon Snow

[@danielvezina5521]

Tywin Lannister was married to his cousin. Rickard Stark(Jon's Grandfather) was married to his aunt. False tension, where there should be none, being create. The bells never meant surrender. D&D don't how create a good story, they should not have cut so many important characters(Lady Stoneheart, Griff and young Griff, Victarion, the true brotherhood, Bloody Mummers, etc.)as soon as they ran out of materials the show sank. I fell so bad for parents who name their daughter Dany or Khaleesi. It's really funny seeing you doing the same thing we did when the episode air, trying to make sense of something that made absolutely no-sense.

[@drumaticpageofmusic4148]

I never really had a problem with the character decisions this episode. Tyrion taking Dany’s side seemed weird to a lot but he’s been surrounded by evil people all his life, and he had a ton of faith that she’d be the next great ruler. After the load of shit he’s been dealt, I can see him having faith like that. As for Jaime trying to save Cersei, she’s his sister, he wouldn’t kill her despite everything she’s done. Plus he’s been flip floppy with her the whole show. Honestly I couldn’t see him going out any other way because I never bought that he’d kill her. As for Daenerys, it was rushed for sure, and it needed more episodes, but where it ended up with her was fitting.

[@newtonowaga2250]

When you wait 10 years and 8 seasons just to see Cersei Lannister get killed by bricks!😑

[@sefirotsgame]

She got killed by her palace, which is a good irony because everything she did was to keep her power and position there. She died losing everything... except the only positive thing in her life, her love for Jaime.

[@rx7dude2006]

Died in the place shew felt most safe, that is the irony and well written.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

Jaime definitely died as an addict. Look at his eyes when he sees Cersei and holds her. It's not love, I saw. It's the eyes and look of an addict looking for his drug. I was so pissed cause Jaime was my favorite character and wished for him an epic heroic death. I'd rather if he had died fighting Dany in 7 x 4.

[@Ankit655]

I am here to make a brave comment. I love this episode.

[@mrcool7358]

27:00 correction not a war call it for what it is a genocide by the mad queen "burnt them all" she did

[@Omayes-yv3ed]

Euron the dragon hunter in the episode: 8X4 Euron the one who didn't even hit the rainbow: 8x5 Daenerys reminds me of that SpongeBob meme: "We did it Patrick! We saved the city".jpg The Mad King Aerys II Targaryen must be laughing in his grave knowing that his daughter did manage to burn the city as he wanted JAJAJAJ Daenerys literally went crazy, you don't have to look for depth in that, she won when the bells rang but she decided to burn it all anyways. "Breaker of Shackles". Targaryens are often very prone to extreme greatness or extreme madness.

[@SerbAtheist]

S8E4 A slow moving and injured dragon taken by surprise. S8E5 A fast moving dragon coming from the direction of the Sun controlled by a wrathful and determined queen.

[@garam2930]

" A Targeryen alone in the world is a terrible thing" -Master Aemon

[@ziva9266]

We still have two though 👀

[@hristovapostol]

​@@ziva9266 Jon and?

[@ziva9266]

@@hristovapostol in 8x05 Dany was still alive

[@jellalfernandes1309]

17:17 Glad you understand that. People don't realise how much Daenerys was pushed

[@l.7584]

"Season 8 Dany NOT Being Foreshadowed for 7 Seasons Straight" on youtube...

[@flerbus]

jaimie was the north's ally against the white walkers why couldn't he have just said he came to king's landing to reason with cercie maybe get her to surrender? it's not like a one armed jaime lanister would swing the tides of battle why did he decide to sneak past the lines doesn't make any sense

[@jimdetry9420]

Good reaction. Looking forward to the final episode.

[@shandeleo1]

Thank you for starting out saying that this is a comment on the futility of war. It's what I've been thinking for 3 years.

[@grife3000]

LOL breaking the wheel was supposed to be freeing all of the king-oppressed peasants. Not roasting them for fun.

[@boxmulla]

I don`t think it was fun she felt at that moment

[@dfunkt2291]

I think the main issue for myself and much of the fandom wasn't Dany's (and other main characters) actions being unbelievable, her character arc could very well lead to that outcome. It's that they rushed it along with a whole lotta other stuff. It needed to be fleshed out more to do her character arc proper justice. It was intended and thought to need more episodes if not more seasons. Most agree they rushed the end. The show runners were over it and wanted to work on the Star Wars trilogy they were supposed to do - that worked out well for them and the series. It's sad to put so much care and effort in, even after they ran out of source material, then just rush to get it over with. The stray coffee cups and water bottles left in scenes in the final season imo is pretty indicative of the reduction in care and attention to detail in the final season. I don't hate it but it's not up to previous standards set.

[@SerbAtheist]

It's not rushed. In fact, it was painfully slow. In fact if you weren't concerned about Dany's mental state at least by the time she was barbecuing the Tarlys, you were watching this show with your eyes closed. As to Star Wars easily debunkable conspiracies (number of episodes was finalized way before Star Wars) the less said the better. And if they were in a 'rush to get over with the show' why did they spend 2 years instead of the usual 1 for the final season, which by all accounts has some of the most technically challenging shooting in the entire series?

[@dfunkt2291]

@@SerbAtheist you might think the final season up to the standard of story telling set by the series but I don't and I'm not the only one. Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I'm an idiot watching with eyes closed. Rude and unnecessary. If you actually read what I wrote above I never said anything about the actions not being believable for the character at all, in fact I stated that above, so I don't know what you're banging on about with Dany's mental state comment. No shit she had issues. Simply, I don't think certain characters, hers included, had their final arcs fleshed enough... It's a simple matter of thinking they could have used more time... Which was the original plan for very good reasons.

[@dfunkt2291]

@@SerbAtheist oh and I've not only watched the series many times but read every piece of literature associated with the world of ice and fire multiple times so yeah I'm well entitled to my opinion.

[@SerbAtheist]

@@dfunkt2291 'Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I'm an idiot watching with eyes closed.' Where the hell did I call you an idiot. Smart people can be blinded by their biases as well, especially given how unconventional GOT is when it comes to storytelling. In fact it's quite often that new and revolutionary works are mocked, ridiculed and even hated simply for not playing by the old playbook, for example impressionist paintings were once dismissed as children drawings. But if you care to listen, I believe some of my experience might be of value. The reason I was able to catch that Dany was up to no good was that I literally went through this in REAL LIFE. Look at my username. We Serbs had our own, much less attractive, Daenerys Targaryen that answered to the name of Slobodan Milošević. He was gonna preserve Yugoslavia, bring peace, make sure Serbian interests were respected, protect Serbs in Kosovo. By the time we realized we were duped it was too f-ing late! This is why I'll forever be cynical of everyone proclaiming they're gonna 'break the wheel,' whatever the wheel may be. For years I believed the Serbs were only the good guys and the innocent victims of the Yugoslav wars. For years I didn't believe the Srebrenica massacre happened. When I slowly learned of credible evidence that my perspective was wrong, it was just like what you, Jon, Tyrion and the rest of the audience were feeling when Dany went rogue except the dead people were actually dead for real, never to get up after the director yelled 'cut!' So yeah, be glad you were only duped by a stupid TV show.

[@SerbAtheist]

@@dfunkt2291 ' I'm well entitled to my opinion.' Yeah, you're entitled to your opinions, but you're not entitled to your own facts, and spreading blatant misinformation about D&D and their motivations very much counts in this regard. See, it's not enough for you to say D&D made a bad season, or even that they are bad showrunners. Big whoop! Even the greatest artists have produced subpar works. No, the reason you're so eager to believe and propagate blatant falsehoods is that you want to permanently delegitimize them. Nope, they weren't just people who made a bad call or dropped the ball. They were these greedy caricatures who purposely sledgehammered their own show, thinking they'd jump to another one, but, oh, jokes on them, they got cancelled! What a story! In this way, you can completely bury the final season in concrete and never ever consider the points it makes seriously. You can protect your ego and ignore the fact you spent 7 seasons rooting for a bloodthirsty genocidal maniac. You can keep on believing that you'd never fall victim to propaganda and that the causes and people you support will always be good ones.

[@opinion8033]

I remember having so many mixed feelings after watching this episode. One thing is certain, although many things happen, I don't get to touch my emotions for real.

[@kyujunaedi7612]

Sorry to say Sofie but Jon can't say anything else other than "you're Muh Quinnn" right now that's the only dialoge he have. And if you think this episode has unfitting ending for tyrion varys jamie wait until next episode for the most useless ending😭

[@JoeSmith-dh6se]

The writers must have accidentally used the search and replace option to change all of his original lines to "You're my queen." But they did go back and change a few of them to "I don't want it."

[@kyujunaedi7612]

@@JoeSmith-dh6se that writer must be screen writer guy aka Ryan right😁

[@JoeSmith-dh6se]

@@kyujunaedi7612 Whaaaat? I have no idea what you're talking about. 😜

[@kyujunaedi7612]

@@JoeSmith-dh6se ohhhhhh pretend to don't know what I'm talking about is tight!!!

[@JoeSmith-dh6se]

@@kyujunaedi7612 In all seriousness. I hope someone convinces Sophie to react to the Season 8 pitch meeting. It let me rewatch the last season as the comedy that it is, rather than be upset or disappointed at most of the characters acting very much out of character.

[@iamthepope9167]

The beauty and tragedy of Denaerys is that her final episodes mirror her brother Viserys’s first episodes. He once basically said to Jorah that the love the Dothraki gave to Dany was something no one would show him so he would need money for an army with which he would subdue them to rule. Dany says to Jon that the love he received after the Great War/Battle was something she’d never been shown in Westeros and said right then that if fear was her only means then she would use it to rule. Also a great touch to have Jorah Mormont, a Northmanmof Bear Isle, say to Dany back in his first appearances the line about a beast living in every man that wakes when you put a sword in his hand. Dany had been showing the signs of this since season 2, and more so as each season advanced. The clever thing was that as a viewer we kind of didn’t notice due to our bias of wanting to see her go from being downtrodden and abused and controlled to a woman in control of her own destiny to a freedom fighter liberating slaves… by the time the time comes to leave for Westeros we were on her side cheering her on rather than seeing that the idea of seizing a throne you didn’t care about until you had a taste of small power in the Khalasaar… in a land that wants you dead… just because it’s in your head that it’s your birthright… a kingdom that only exists because your ancestor subjugated it and forced 7 kingdoms to surrender or cooperate… and you find yourself forcing your views on other cultures and punishing sons for sins of their ancestors and fathers… and becoming obsessed with gestures of submission and proof of loyalty… and resenting others for receiving well earned admiration… all in pursuit of said throne… you see how subtly and obviously it’s all been there all along. In the end she fulfilled her father’s plans for King’s Landing. And Cersei fulfilled her own prophecy when she said to Ned that she and Jamie entered this world in each other’s arms and that’s how they’d leave it as well.

[@SerbAtheist]

One can find parallels between Viserys's short and pitiful journey and Dany's much longer and more grandiose journey all day long: (S8E6 spoilers ahead!) 1) Viserys' crown? Melted. Dany's throne? Melted. 2) Viserys careless when the promise of a crown was at hand? Check. Dany careless when the Iron Throne was at hand? Check. 3) Viserys and Daenerys both failing to understand the culture of the place in which they seek power. 4) Viserys and Daenerys both believing that having people be indebted to them is a surefire path to power and influence. 5) Viserys and Daenerys both thinking they could be as violent as they want without consequence (Viserys because of the laws of Vaes Dothrak, Dany because of Drogon). 6) Viserys and Daenerys both taking their frustrations out on the innocent (Dany's baby, the citizens of KL) 7) Viserys and Daenerys both shocked when the final hammer drops on them. 8) Viserys and Daenerys both obsessed with their legacy all the while not realizing just how fragile and precarious their position actually is, as people they trust talk behind their backs. 9) Viserys and Daenerys both killed by someone who was indebted to them (Viserys gave his sister to Drogo, Dany rescued Jon). 10) Viserys and Daenerys both abandoned by the only person left that loved them as a lost cause.

[@LS13.]

Finally people kind of get some of the poetic writing. I agree they did it very quickly in the end, but the signs were there. So many hated that they didn’t see a happy finale- it gets me confused. Sure it wasn’t grand but it makes more sense than Dany and Jon ruling as one. Danys madness was there since day one

[@bill7817]

@@LS13. Don't be confused... the hate came cause Starks and especially Sansa won . If their beloved Targaryan ended to the iron throne the majority of the haters (except book fan readers ) will celebrate their win but but but .... 😂😂😂

[@irktog5175]

Tyrion thinks he can convince Cersei to join the war against the Night King and gets a dragon killed and she betrays him. He makes a speech to Cersei to surrender and she beheads Missandei right in front of him. He frees Jaime so that he will convince Cersei to surrender which of course she doesn't and gets Jaime killed. And he is supposed to be the smart one.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

I didn't think Cersei was that bad after she became Queen. I mean she essentially fought foreign invaders. But never did anything to the people of King's Landing. It's not like she cut the food and started executing people. Maybe her regime would have been a quiet one if Dany had not invaded. I feel like the writers should have made in a strong case that Cersei needs to be stopped then you have Dany coming in as the perfect savior. And then Dany become mad as well.

[@TheHellyeahmen]

Dany kinda forgot that small folk who she always stood for had nothing to do with her pain

[@queenxx1690]

D&D writing and destroying this show still hurts many years after

[@Nicamon]

@@queenxx1690 "bEsT sEaSoN eVaH!!1!!11!!1"

[@queenxx1690]

@@Nicamon yeah

[@boxmulla]

@@queenxx1690 You think GRM would wrote it otherwise? Think again. He was still advising D D till the end

[@Nicamon]

@@boxmulla You can reach the same conclusion with a better development/excuse.Knowing that your enemies have surrendered and going straight to massacre them all *except* for the only one you're *actually* pissed at(Cersei)it's stupid and makes no sense...if Martin writes the _exact_ same thing,he's stupid too.

[@kengascoigne5946]

8:09 One of the most touching moments in all of GOT

[@Brownsamurai]

Sansa, Verys and Arya were right. Dani was alwase going to be another Tyrant

[@LS13.]

*No Matter the Cost, with Fire and Blood I Will Take It*

[@theunsteady3675]

idk what anyone says, i love this ending it makes me tear up lowkey.

[@jovnaanti8162]

I wish I could give you 10 thumbs ups instead of one. Great thoughts and reflections

[@manolososadavinci1937]

Here is to King Aerys ll of his name king of the andals the rhoyner and the first men,protector of the realm ,his daughter made sure to complete her fathers last wish.

[@manolososadavinci1937]

@@MrSupertallblackman that's how I know you are dead wrong and don't know what you are talking about.,tywin didn't siege kings landing at all no trebuchets no waiting or anything the doors were wide open 🤦🤦grand maester pycelle made sure of it

[@jakehart60]

I’m annoyed I didn’t see this video was dropped an hour or so before I left for work now I have to wait until I get home to watch it😔

[@johnnyd1790]

1. Power corrupts and Drogon is loads of it. 2. You use the F word!😳 And proper!😏 3. Jamie's death is best described in The Book of Brothers by Bryanne.👌

[@seecha8970]

In video games, Danny is known as a "Griefer". That is a person who feels they've been done wrong so the go to the most extreme when they retaliate.

[@jcompton8507]

That's most of the characters in GoT at one point or another: Robert, Cersei, Joff, Tyrion, Sansa, Arya, Robb, Cat, LF, Lysa, Theon, Balon, Euron, Viserys, Dany, Drogo, Stannis, Olenna, Ellaria, Varys, Walder Frey, Ygritte, the Children of the Forest, the slave masters in Essos, the High Sparrow...who have I left out?

[@ismailelmassaoudi4317]

Deanerys became the mad queen she snapped as you said everyone betrayed her the loss missandei has also something to do with it it's crazy everyone who starts watching game of thrones have no idea what she becomes it is said but understandable

[@miadavies1575]

just proves sansa and varys was right

[@abdurrehmanali7]

They were the ones who fucked it up to begin with

[@beesmitty3435]

Hahahahaha how sway? You mean helped create I believe. Both of their actions are the most direct actors in relation to her snapping, maybe Tyrion too. Sansa was turned into a mean spiteful short thinking character.. and varus like Tyrion was turned into a meddling imbecile..

[@hali_55]

@@beesmitty3435how does Sansa and Varys contribute to Dany’s descent when it already began seasons ago before she even knew them?

[@kevinbernardini1293]

Jon kinda forgot he was a character Jamie kinda forgot his character development Dany kinda forgot that she won before the massacre Cersei kinda forgot to escape when she had time, btw 12:40 it kinda felled during Robert rebellion Euron kinda forgot how to kill a dragon Everyone forgot that the bells don’t mean surrender Too much amnesia in this episode

[@LS13.]

In the end there isn’t much Jon can do. Jaime has been for Cercei since day 1- he was a good man but he always clearly lived for her. Dany got to a goal that wasn’t what she imagined it to be, in a land that hated her, believing she was destined and the greatness to save them all (that alone is madness) Cercei was in full denial. Euron simply missed. And the Bells in the end simply mean a big decision or big event, so them ringing them for surrender makes sense.

[@BhBc8f8]

@@LS13. The copium is real in this one

[@LS13.]

@@BhBc8f8 in the end it really is that simple. And it doesn’t really matter lol. Whatever way they would have ended it wouldn’t be enough for fans. The mistake they did was just rushing it otherwise it is what it is.

[@BhBc8f8]

@@LS13. You make it sound like good endings is some kind or rarity. I've finished about 112 shows and books in my life time and GoT has the worst written season finale i've seen so far. The key is logic and consistency. Those are the rules we were given by the show. Every character survives by making as few mistakes as possible and learning from them, those are the rules this fictional universe abides by. In S1 we saw Ned provoke Tywin Lannister > confront Cersei > Ignore LF > arrested and killed in the finale, and yet no one complained about how the ending was written because it made sense. In S3 we see Robb break his sacred vow > ignore Roose Bolton at every turn > execute Lord Karstark > and then butchered at the red wedding, and yet no one complained about how the ending was written because it made sense. In S5 we see Jon befriend the "enemy" > ignore Stannis > ignore Ser Allister as usual > go against centuries of tradition and the wishes of the Nights Watch > and then branded a traitor and killed by his own men, and yet no one complained about how the ending was written because it made sense. S8 however was a complete disaster for the show. Tyrion makes a mistake every episode, Jon is barely a character, the golden company had no horses, Dany kind of forgot she was at war, and list goes on. Every time you think you've seen a good point that supports the outcome, along comes an even better point that goes against the outcome, it's so divisive because there was no logical consistency. Instead of being entertained and satisfied with the story, the fans were arguing with one another and making memes on reddit. That's not what a good written ending looks like. The wrapping up of plot points and character arcs in S8 simply made no sense whatsoever, but then again how could it with just 6 episodes? That's an impossible task, which is why HBO offered them more episodes but D&D refused cause of burn out fatigue and were apparently too arrogant to pass on the touch to someone else. If GRRM ever finishes the books, the first thing you'll notice will be the enormous difference in quality, sound logic, consistency and of course much better dialogue than muh queen, because those have and will always be the hallmark of good writing.

[@NPA1001]

And this is where it finally stepped off a cliff… 😞😞

[@JarinCOD]

People at Ned's execution are glad to be alive. They didn't know Ned obviously.

[@GlennShook]

What? Lol

[@JarinCOD]

@@GlennShook ?????????????????????????????

[@GlennShook]

@@JarinCOD 🤪🤦🤣

[@klyanadkmorr]

The end was super symbolism but corny ARYA savior worshiper of Death rides off on a PALE HORSE THRU the Carnage of Death around her

[@trinie456]

Again requesting a reaction to GoT s8 Pitch Meeting! It's cathartic lol

[@aedryk]

lmao I just watched that THANK YOU

[@strangebotwin-]

Muh Queen! I don’t want it!

[@invadertifxiii]

Now that game of thrones is almost over I highly recommend outlander for the next big show