tl;dr: kitty supports showing images in the terminal while alacritty doesn't
@Err-G2 ай бұрын
And kitty is easier to configure thanks to kittens.
@stephanbylkov82152 ай бұрын
it does, the documentation of yazi literally says what you need to do in order to use peviews in alacritty (install ueberzug)
@8ack2Lobby2 ай бұрын
lmfao that's it? 😂
@obestatrovao2 ай бұрын
wezterm also can :)
@Darkstar1592 ай бұрын
Man I thought 6 minutes was a short video but somehow even that was an extreme stretch for making such a simple point.
@hank9th2 ай бұрын
I use fish inside of kitty for maximum cat-themed goodness.
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
meow
@zhongxina7282 ай бұрын
catppuccin?
@s007742 ай бұрын
fish aint posix compliant, id use something else
@werecynicalwhywolf87002 ай бұрын
@@typecraft_dev Tse-Tung
@subatomicmolecules2 ай бұрын
@@s00774 honestly, is it really all that important? Ask yourself, why does POSIX compliance matter for an interactive shell? For making/using portable scripts? That's what shebangs are for, /bin/sh or bash and no problems. Instead of using one shell for everything, you can use fish for interactive terminal use, and bash or even dash for scripting (dash is already used instead of bash for sh on Debian based systems). Fish just makes a lot more sense for interactive use imo, and you don't really have to learn a whole new language (it's not like you're using test and if statements on a terminal directly anyway). The only reason I wouldn't use fish is if I already had a working zsh configuration I'd been using for years.
@driden19872 ай бұрын
Next video: ditching Kitty for Wezterm. We’ve all done it 😅
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
Haha ok
@KTKettler2 ай бұрын
Been there. It's bound to happen 😅
@kalvinarts2 ай бұрын
Switched this week to wezterm … never going back to alacritty. I considered kitty but the the lua config for wezterm is much more powerful.
@Vreth62 ай бұрын
I am still on Kitty even after trying wezterm. Both are great tbh, but Kitty felt a little more fitting for someone who is in tmux a lot.
@hoxefko2 ай бұрын
I came to the comments to say exactly the same 😂
@VoyivodaFTW12 ай бұрын
you've been on fire lately. keep the new videos rolling.
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@keyboard_gАй бұрын
@@typecraft_devit’s a bot…
@CollinWilliams-by5cs2 ай бұрын
0:00 I'm calling it: Alacritty -> Kitty for Image support
@NJ-wb1cz2 ай бұрын
I'm calling it GUI
@pixl_xip2 ай бұрын
To be honest I was expecting ligatures.
@jeanclaudedusse61762 ай бұрын
Amazing video as always ... now all we need is a video about yazi :D
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
Working on it!
@vaisakh_km2 ай бұрын
i personally Worked with vhyrro to make a latex rendering lib for neovim to use in neorg, which uses kitty terminal graphics protocol.. such a cool protocol to work with (currently it's not used as hologram depricated) though now i switched after 1y to foot terminal as i can feel the lag in kitty, which is much nicer and support images with sixel
@dv_xl2 ай бұрын
Kitty is way faster than for me than most other terminals, although havent tried foot. Wezterm and Alacritty both performed very poorly on my laptop, and I'm not sure why. I'm still using X, maybe that has something to do with it
@vaisakh_km2 ай бұрын
@@dv_xl that's really odd.. i am not sure about wezterm, but alacritty should be performing really well..
@halano2 ай бұрын
Foot is best terminal : - footclient start in 98 ms - image rendering supported - small memory fingerprint - support emojis - flexible - fast
@rev43242 ай бұрын
it's nice, but it isn't as fast at rendering as gpu based terminal emulators, like kitty, alacritty or ghostty
@youdontknowme25082 ай бұрын
@@rev4324Where have you noticed the performance difference?
@victorbitencourt94812 ай бұрын
wayland only
@matejlaskomulejАй бұрын
@@rev4324 Is wezterm gpu based too? I tested printing out entire home directory file structure with "tree" command in both alacritty and wezterm at the same time and they both finished at precisely the same time as well. GNOME Ubuntu 24.0.4 / Wayland
@resofactor2 ай бұрын
KZbin popped this up as Recommended Video due to my Linux searches. This is cool to know. Thanks for producing this one. Just Subscribed.
@aquepaique2 ай бұрын
I use Kitty instead of wezterm because kitty feels smoother, no laggy when I scroll down. Also, wezterm consumes more ram.
@ertwro2 ай бұрын
I don’t care how much people say kitty is bloated. It has the best image protocol for terminals. In fact I patched ST terminal with the kitty protocol and I didn’t burst into flames. Is the best at the moment. Ps: Rust is amazing for refactoring but just because something is written in rust is no instantaneous win.
@minecraftpufferfish90662 ай бұрын
I have switched from Alacritty to foot. It's BLAZING fast and it has image support. Kitty has font ligature support, but it's just noticeably slow; foot, on the other hand, opens faster than any other terminal emulator I've ever tried.
@tonynguyen7252 ай бұрын
I agree, been using foot and never looked back
@SunHail824 күн бұрын
never tried it. is Foot faster than Konsole???
@minecraftpufferfish906624 күн бұрын
@@SunHail8 yeah, it's significantly faster.
@rewindyourmind3212 ай бұрын
These videos always come out so timely, I just finished my configuring the foot terminal on my Arch machine for the same reason!
@iduran2 ай бұрын
How about Wezterm? Also written in Rust and is configured using Lua.
@AlexNovak2 ай бұрын
Also supports image rendering!
@256k_2 ай бұрын
wezterm is the best really.
@htlin.lizard2 ай бұрын
I vote for Wezterm. If you're familiar with configuring Neovim using Lua, using WezTerm will be no problem at all.
@TokyoXtreme2 ай бұрын
Bunch of fine fellas with good taste in terminals in this little thread here.
@khanra172 ай бұрын
WezTerm is a bloat & a mess
@oglothenerd2 ай бұрын
Something that Kitty must add for me to use it instead of Alacritty is the bright bold feature. Essentially, when text is bold, make it use the bright variant of the text color.
@stevemorgandev2 ай бұрын
I’ve switched back and forth between these two terminals. Usually a little thing will annoy me enough. I forget exactly why I switched back to alacritty this last time. I just make sure I back up my configs with stow so that I can switch seamlessly when needed.
@amarugАй бұрын
Kitty is the best for a desktop with a gpu, but if you are using a laptop mostly on battery, kitty isnt the best, its resource hungry. I actually just use the xfce4 term, it opens immediately and doesnt hog resources. Kitty takes literally like 1.5 seconds to open (which for a terminal is an eternity) and hogs ram, cpu etc.
@darkarie4 күн бұрын
did you try foot? it uses the cpu and its really nice
@DEVDerr2 ай бұрын
I like to think that you made the switch, because of my last comment on one of your videos haha :D but seriously - good switch mate! I made the same switch 1 month ago and I'm enjoying kitty so far. Also thanks for that `kittens` tip! I didn't know about that and it's amazing
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😁
@davindersiwal11802 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, kitty also supports pdf file view as well as scrolling
@sethback2 ай бұрын
Ngl, thought you were gonna jump on Ghostty terminal (closed beta for now) from Mitchell H :D
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
I just got an invite :)
@sethback2 ай бұрын
@@typecraft_dev next video compare kitty to ghostty :3
@PercyGTM2 ай бұрын
Yazi's image rendering works with WezTerm and Foot too.
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
oh very cool!
@samuraijosh15952 ай бұрын
@@typecraft_devyes the images look high quality in windows wezterm too although western hangs when you do any quick movements while editing heavily for whatever reason
@NeythEU2 ай бұрын
and with alacritty ;-) and every other terminal emulator - you need ueberzugpp and set it as render backend in the yazi config
@benjaminschultz65012 ай бұрын
Good luck with Kitty. It works well, so long as you stay within the choke-hold configuration bounds of the developer. Changing fonts is a nightmare, but example. And if you look at the repo’s bug report page, you don’t have to dig deep to see that the developer can be a single-minded jerk at times.
@solitudesf81112 ай бұрын
Yeah, he is based
@takharamazanpolat76102 ай бұрын
How's changing the font a nightmare?
@archip80212 ай бұрын
Lol he changes the font in the video takes literally 10 second
@juipeltje2 ай бұрын
i'm not sure what you mean by changing fonts being a nightmare. on both alacritty and kitty it was very simple
@dgames2182 ай бұрын
typecraft, Do you think you could make a video comparing Kitty, wezterm and contour? It would be great to hear your opinion
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
I think I’ll have to!
@PhysicsLaboratory-cp7eq2 ай бұрын
Both terminal on default conf, the alacrity anti aliasing of font looks way good at least on my 720 display. But the actually reason no kitty is, just try to run unimatrix -l e on both terminal. Couldn't get colored emoji work on kitty 😂 no matter what. *yes few color emoji show but to make alacritty show all the color emoji was way way simpler then kitty (still could get it working)
@wojciech-kulik2 ай бұрын
Good timing nerd, I've just switched to Kitty & Yazi around 3 days ago, hahaha :D. Amazing tools!
@user-ek8cd1gg3f2 ай бұрын
I also use kitty, mainly because of the extensivility and the ligatures. Alacritty text rendering looks a bit better to me, but kitty is very very good (much better than wezterm). I'm happy with it but the most disappointing thing about kitty is that developing custom kittens is super frustrating because de python API is not documented.
@user-ek8cd1gg3f2 ай бұрын
Extensibility*
@knotrocket48252 ай бұрын
You should try Foot which also has image support if you like the simplicity of Alacritty and don't mind not having GPU acceleration or X11/MacOS support.
@geanb.86992 ай бұрын
In my experience, GPU acceleration only results in screen tearing and lag in the terminal. That's why I switched to Foot.
@minhtienao23062 ай бұрын
I also changed to kitty because I want to use yazi too, basically still like the simplicity of alacrity's setting more but kitty is okay though
@youngsinatra26452 ай бұрын
ghostty will be the new meta (when it comes out)
@mischavandenburg2 ай бұрын
Great video! Been on Alacritty for almost 3 years now and I'm not going anywhere. Portability and minimalism win it for me
@riufq2 ай бұрын
For tldw: It because kitty terminal have image preview, but Alacrity not.
@arztareef2 ай бұрын
you couldve done that with ueberzug protocol which works on all terminal and im pretty sure it works with yazi, it really wasnt necessary and you'll miss the dynamic cursor from alacritty
@ejiek2 ай бұрын
You're correct, Yazi has built-in support for ueberzugpp and it does work in alacritty
@huljaxful2 ай бұрын
I was using kitty but then switched back to alacritty when switching distros basically. Long story short, I didn't know about the themes in kitty. I am not a ricer, just a hopper 😂 but this is pure gold. Thank you for sharing info for us advanced/not advanced users. By the way, I use mint and pop 😮
@theIbraDev2 ай бұрын
Watching this created live on Twitch was fun. Although I’m surprised you kept in the “meow”’s 😂
@joergw2 ай бұрын
There is no need to use Nerd Fonts in kitty Kitty allows you to use a second font just for the icons, so you can use any regular (unpatched) font
@offerurain86412 ай бұрын
image render is indeed fantastic. But i use kitty mainly for the built in tab, it's really easy to use, i don't need tmux or zellij anymore.
@AqgvP07r-hq3vu2 ай бұрын
Wezterm is amazing
@DGDG000000021 күн бұрын
wow, nice. Thank you for Kitty, and for yazi-fm too.
@typkrft2 ай бұрын
Kitty was my terminal of choice for a long time. Just recently switched to wezterm after dabbling with it for a few years. Configured in lua, used multiple graphics protocols including kitties, and is similarly performant.
@bryson26622 ай бұрын
This is why i prefer wezterm. Kitty graphics, highly customizable with lua, and built-in multiplexing
@QuebnQ2 ай бұрын
currently on kitty and I will only consider switching to alacritty only if they support font ligatures.
@12px2 ай бұрын
you will feel at home when ghostty is publicly available. it has everything and is faster than all of them. I really mean it!
@QuebnQ2 ай бұрын
i've heard of ghostty before, now i'm looking forward for it. Thanks
@ForeverZer02 ай бұрын
I understand that ligatures are not a trivial thing to implement, but I feel that Alacritty really misses out on a significant user-base by not supporting them.
@rizakhan10022 ай бұрын
Dude your vids are killer. Great content and well paced. Thanks for sharing.
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I always appreciate these comments
@Reducer2 ай бұрын
I've been using kitty for about a year now... but I'm doing absolutely nothing fancy whatsoever with it. Should really look more at what it can do.
@justronny202 ай бұрын
Loved watching this video being recorded live on yesterday's stream!
@rkdeshdeepak41312 ай бұрын
ueberzug was right there
@rodelias93782 ай бұрын
Wezterm is the new kid in the block.. Go give it a try!
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
I'll have to check it out!
@freeyourmind7572 ай бұрын
I wonder why don't we have a terminal with command prompt at first line not on the last. You type commands on first line always and see the result below like stack. It's easier to read the results. No need to seek where output starts, it's right below the command prompt.
@chrishoppner1509 күн бұрын
Sounds like you might want ZSH’s plan9 mode
@freeyourmind7578 күн бұрын
@@chrishoppner150 thanks for you reply I've found WARP terminal emulator it does exactly what i described
@chrishoppner1508 күн бұрын
@@freeyourmind757 Is that the venture-capital backed term that requires you to log in and sends all your commands to their server?
@debajyatidey94682 ай бұрын
You are on the right path. Already ditched kitty for wezterm
@markzuckerbread18652 ай бұрын
yazi is such a goated program fr, no config needed so I can actually use it at work without being obnoxious with configs
@tinylith16032 ай бұрын
My kitty configuration is colorscheme and font and I'm happy with it :D
@jongeduard2 ай бұрын
Anyone explored Zutty terminal here? The developer has quite an extensive explanation in which he explains that it's the most correct working terminal which is also about as fast as Alacritty and Kitty.
@NormalNvim2 ай бұрын
Foot terminal is objectively the best performing terminal for the case of use of working with VIM.
@zenitsu29892 ай бұрын
32 seconds in the video and I already know the missing feature, same reason why I left Alacritty. 😂
@DarthVader119122 ай бұрын
I'm glad the video turned out great 😃
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
Me too! Thanks for being there, was fun!
@cariyaputta2 ай бұрын
Wezterm + Neovim is the deadliest combo, truly cross platform.
@leopoId2 ай бұрын
It's maintainer is just rude. I'll just keep using alacritty.
@fredartchannel750818 күн бұрын
lol
@Varadiio17 күн бұрын
For others like me coming in late (using Wezterm) that might not know, see kitty github issue 2481. All I found immediately, but that's enough for me to avoid it. (the issue, but especially the response, that I interpret as hostility toward any other viewpoint) There are bound to be more.
@roberto71022 ай бұрын
I was loving ranger and nerd-nnn but yazi with kitty is amaziiiiiing btw kitty was already my terminal emulator thanks man!
@MichaelButlerC2 ай бұрын
I really respect Kitty. But i actually switched from Kitty to Alacritty. If i remember correctly, with Kitty when i Ssh'd to a client's server the prompt was messed up for some reason and i couldn't figure out why. It didn't happen with Konsole or Alacritty so i decided not to go back . I also was reading some stuff about how against Tmux the Kitty dev is (i respect that too, he has his reasoning) and i like tmux, so I'd have to use something that worked well with it
2 ай бұрын
btw, wezterm also supports image preview and is config file is written in lua :D
@skidkadda2 ай бұрын
iTerm never dissapoints
@H3cJP2 ай бұрын
honestly i hate kitty i first used kitty, then i switched to alacritty because for me it was unusable slow, buggy, crashing all time... and i was not the only one to encounter this exact problems, i talked to more people on discord that had had the same problem buggy and crashing can be fixed, the thing with speed is that alacritty is just better, both are gpu accelerated but alacritty is way faster, which you can easily check doing a benchmark, for example doing a dd of /dev/random to a file of, lets say, 2GiB - and then, doing a cat to the random file and timing how long it takes to output all that its not really a killer thing, speed of stdout is mostly irrelevant, the only reason im commenting this is because you talked about speed in favour of kitty, which is just wrong TO BE CLEAR this is just my experience, i find kitty very interesting and, if i didnt had bugs, i would maybe use it maybe, because i dont really find the images feature useful (for me) and for multiplexxing i rather use tmux or zellij
@rodriidamn982 ай бұрын
Ghostty is new way to make terminals
@ForeverZer02 ай бұрын
*will be
@aliventurous2 ай бұрын
Nothing better than kitty right now. Cross platform, image support, excellent font rendering, uses less ram and cpu than wezterm. You also don't need tmux when working locally since kitty has built in window splitting and kitty sessions. Now you just need to install fish. Faster startup times than zsh. And their abbreviation feature for a saner command history.
@fermelo1002 ай бұрын
Yazi has a catpuccin theme also, so it all looks just purrfect
@Zwiesel662 ай бұрын
Kitty is great, I have discovered it a few weeks ago
@dr.mikeybeeАй бұрын
I need the blocks that the warp terminal has. As far as I know, no other terminal offers blocks.
@The8BitHero2 ай бұрын
I just switched FROM Kitty to Alacritty because of no smooth scrolling when using a touchpad.
@stroiman.development2 ай бұрын
4:45 Why quit and restart? You can reload the config at runtime. I have it on cmd+ctrl+, on Mac (think it's default)
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
Honestly I didn’t think about it!
@hecate68342 ай бұрын
Ironically I switched from Kitty to Alacritty two weeks ago
@EyasD042 ай бұрын
that's very interesting, can you please tell us why? i want to compare your reasons with the video
@hecate68342 ай бұрын
@@EyasD04 Not particularly deep reasons, I feel that Alacritty is the much simpler tool while still doing everything I need. Config is easier to grasp and I also like the Vi mode :)
@nichohells2 ай бұрын
After 2 years or use, I replaced Alacritty with Gnome's Terminal because why not
@ZombieLurker2 ай бұрын
I like the customization of Kitty much better than all others but it is much slower than other terminal emulators. The Ghostty website has a 'cat' benchmark of the japanese bible that shows Kitty is almost as slow as the Mac terminal at around mid 300ms. Alacritty for comparison is at give or take 76ms. Wezterm was around 170ms. I am trying Wezterm but not liking the terminal tabs bar. Didn't like no border at all in Alacritty and think Kitty has my personal favorite looks. Most likely gonna switch back to it. Wezterm also works with Yazi for pictures in the terminal though.
@kahvelikod27312 ай бұрын
Frankly, gnome terminal is enough for me. I used to use "terminator" long ago. (That weird red-framed terminal console, but this is also very good) . I will try Kitty soon. Your ability to explain is really good. Why don't you give programming training. Maybe on KZbin platform, maybe on your own website, maybe somewhere like udemy... I think you will be very successful...
@Babbili2 ай бұрын
i'm just using Gnome terminal, it's also GPU accelerated, happy with it
@oumardicko55932 ай бұрын
you don't need to restart kitty, there's a shortcut to reload the configs, you can check on the doc
@alanxoc32 ай бұрын
I used alacritty & kitty before. But I'm using foot now since I'm on wayland... And I'm loving it.
@TWidXugA12 ай бұрын
Hmm, I use alacritty with ranger and it does support images with the controversial ueberzug, in fact it looks a lot like yazi... and it has for years. Only reason kitty has an slight upper hand isbthat sixel is an actual protocol, while ueberzug is a hack.
@MarcelRobitaille2 ай бұрын
iirc kitty images do not work inside of tmux, but with alacritty and ueberzug it does work
@VANTYCSolutions2 ай бұрын
Thank you! switching to kitty here.
@LeungWong2 ай бұрын
might as well release next video about ditching kitty for wezterm ;)
@steevtupanwael2 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing like your video.. try foot terminal if on hyprland, awesome experience
@claymorwan2 ай бұрын
It's so alacrover Time for kitty :3c
@JoshuaSteele2 ай бұрын
Would love to hear your thoughts on kitty + tmux. I've been using kitty for quite a while, and one of the reasons is that I find it to be essentially a replacement for tmux. At least in terms of splits/panes. But I also know there are issues if you want to run tmux inside kitty. In fact, Kovid Goyal (kitty's creator) recommends against it. (see kitty FAQ) Anyway, I like tmux and know you're a fan too. So now that you're switching to kitty... Thanks!
@havocblast873713 күн бұрын
This guy is in the middle of dev content creators. Not as bad as all those one month "Ex-Google Engineers" but not up there will Primeagen, yet. Maybe we can get some advance topic videos soon
@meowsqueak2 ай бұрын
Team rxvt-unicode-256color forever. Every other one I’ve tried has something stupid about it - whether it’s copy/paste nonsense, or font kerning problems, or lack of search, or bad ssh confit, or too much decoration… rxvt-unicode-256color is fast, lightweight and configurable.
@KK-4ever2 ай бұрын
personally I felt kitty to be slower than alacritty. right click copy paste(putty like) is sluggish on kitty while alacritty does that with ease and faster.
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
Interesting! I haven’t noticed any slow downs. I’ll keep my eyes open
@ReneKnuvers74rk2 ай бұрын
Wezterm supports image viewing too, just like Kitty. Warp seems to support it, but it doesn’t work out of the box on my mac.
@JacobChristiansen12 ай бұрын
surprised you haven't tried wezterm yet
@typecraft_dev2 ай бұрын
Maybe I will soon!
@ficolas22 ай бұрын
Catppuccin, kitty and feed the kitties with fish
@tech-nomade2 ай бұрын
wtf, man, did literally the same (installing kitty for yazi and its image preview) just 2-3 days ago! lol. Convergent Evolution at work. Not ditching Alacritty yet, though. Will use kitty for yazi only.
@oalfodr2 ай бұрын
Before watching past the intro, my guess feature you want is sixel
@oalfodr2 ай бұрын
I was close. But I do not need neither their protocol nor sixel because I think ueberzugpp is more portable solution.
@jkjoker7772 ай бұрын
i have/get to learn new tech all of the time. the one thing that has stayed consistent and I have zero desire to try new things on is my environment. alacritty, tmux, nvim pinnacle of “if it ain’t broke”
@KingZero692 ай бұрын
welcome to team kitty… the best team there is 😏
@Shizaru27232 ай бұрын
Supposed content subject: Why switch from Alacritty to Kitty? Actual video content: 5% relevent, 95% configuring Kitty
@RolandHaller2 ай бұрын
Kitty is awesome, but you have to change the icon to the neom one that looks soo much better
@snsaisaАй бұрын
you're looking for 5:30 (not a reason to change but that's his reason)
@beardedgiant2 ай бұрын
I ditched Alacritty for Wezterm and have not looked back. The Alacritty "team" are a-holes and Wezterm is very easy to configure, is crazy fast, and Wez is on top of the project.
@lukeh98972 ай бұрын
Once I figured out how to add kitty compatibility within ssh I am happy with it if the target machine doesn’t have kitty or its files you can’t use backspace and other functions while ssh connected into it but there is documentation on how to fix the issue thank god 😊
@peterjansen482624 күн бұрын
I tried kitty multiple times, I can't use it because I feel a very noticeable inputlag with typing which Alacritty does not have nearly as much. I don't know what causes this inputlag, I suspect it might have to do with Python being slower and for that reason kitty needing more time to paste the letter which you just typed. Note that I use a 144 Hz monitor, it might be much less noticable on a 60 Hz monitor.
@rafaelfonsecacastillo85442 ай бұрын
Kitty is the best, very customizable and you save yourself from having to use tmux.
@StefanSonesson2 ай бұрын
Currently looking at how to open files from yazi in different editors depending on file extension. E.g. *.txt with nvim, *.java with Intellij. Is that the next video coming up? ;-)