As a German i highly recommended even further mispronouncing the names, that way you boost interactions. We love correcting people.
@TheBlueFalconX5 ай бұрын
Fryren is best amine
@Rar98665 ай бұрын
I love frowren
@JustAnUnnamedCat5 ай бұрын
Fyeerrn
@cyropox82354 ай бұрын
Firing is the best character ever
@Amphiron4 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw "Auberst" I was like.. wait that's not a b..
@belldrop73655 ай бұрын
29:59 Sierie said it herself, it takes centuries to be actually useful and in those centuries, you could have studied something else that's more useful, assuming you're still alive. And Sierie is also a big tsundere, she does it too despite saying that, lol.
@EpicGodofWar5 ай бұрын
I've seen so many people constantly miss this, and that demons do hide their mana just fine, just as anyone else can try to hide their mana. in fact the act of hiding your mana seems to be relatively simple, the difference is that frieren, fern, and flamme (+serie) are doing it all of the time. Trying to think of a good analogy, but the closest I can think of would be like.... writing in a style for a mirror. Completely useless skill, hard as hell to probably learn, could have probably focused on learning an entirely new language rather than how to write your own language in mirror, but in some very specific situations, could definitely be useful, and surprising as hell.
@spaghetti13835 ай бұрын
I think Totaraum missed something else. He said that demons can't detect mana concealment. But they can, they do see fluctuations in mana. The only mages we know they can't detect is Serie, Flamme, Frieren, and Fern because their fluctuations are so minor. But there are likely talented enough demons who can see through even them. When Flamme told Frieren that mana concealment is dishonorable, that only applies to the rare permanent mana concealment. Demons can't imagine permanently concealing their mana, because they would be permanently accepting a lower social status in their society. During the time of Flamme, I think the only powerful mages were elves and demons. Even powerful human mages may find dishonor in permanent mana concealment if they have pride in their own mana amount. Her statement makes sense with that context. Most modern mages don't care because they don't love magic for the sake of magic. For demons and other powerful mages, they live for magic.
@felixlara29455 ай бұрын
She's also like 10k years old, Frieren is a teenage elf, she's telling a child to learn the fundamentals first before learning the fancy shit
@PhabioTheHost5 ай бұрын
@@spaghetti1383 You are wrong on one thing. The only Demon to have ever seen through Frieren was the Demon King.
@nurlindafsihotang4923 күн бұрын
@@PhabioTheHostnah. Denken's master did so too.
@PhabioTheHost5 ай бұрын
"Is it better to be born without fear, or to overcome it with great effort?" - Eisen and Stark probably
@TimeturnerJ5 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! I just have one tiny nitpick: Frieren doesn't hate geniuses. The reason why she initially dislikes Sein is not because he's incredibly gifted, but rather because she sees her own former self in him - someone who feels like their chance to make something of their life has slipped through their fingers, and has thus resigned themselves a quiet life of numb unfulfillment, never making the effort to take that step to change their situation and try again. _That's_ what Frieren means when she says that they're the same. It's not because they're both geniuses (though they are), it's because they were both okay with giving up and not trying again. It's because she dislikes her old self that she dislikes seeing Sein like that. And it's for that reason that she was so determined to _help_ him take that step, just like Himmel once did for her.
@theendlessdaydream64425 ай бұрын
Frieren was the less painful version of To Your Eternity which covers more of what makes someone human. Immortal stories can be hard to write and Frieren focuses more on what makes life worth living and I love it for it.
@izanagi66285 ай бұрын
frieren is what id hoped to your Eternity would be when it first started. id lost interest after season 1, i hope frieren gets another beautiful season
@spiceforspice34614 ай бұрын
@@izanagi6628 This is pretty much it. Frieren is To Your Eternity executed correctly.
@StonetheDestroyer425 ай бұрын
As a West Coast swing dancer who started dancing just so I would stop flinching at any kind of physical touch (it worked, I completely broke through that problem), once I decided I actually wanted to be good at it, it still took me, like an entire year to get good. Partner dancing takes so much work and practice and focus, even if you're just trying to get good enough to do it socially for fun.
@benisvoy93675 ай бұрын
What an absolutely incredible note to end on. Love the vid mad, great work!
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@silence75245 ай бұрын
I've had a friend who's been asking me to watch Frieren ever since it released and is obsessed with it to this day, getting to watch an hour of Totaraum rave about it seems like a good push to finally start the show when I get the time
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
Please do! I hope you really enjoy the show
@misanthropicservitorofmars21165 ай бұрын
I’m straight obsessed as well. It’s that good. I’ve rewatched it twice now 😂
@FuzzyMuffin15 ай бұрын
You mention the music knows exactly when to do what it needs to for the scene... In my opinion the best use of this is the funeral in the first episode. After getting the beautiful track of the stars shooting through the sky we get a short scene at the funeral. Then we cut to burying Himmel's coffin. Right before Frieren starts crying the music cuts off and all you can hear is the shovel spreading dirt. Talk about a gut punch.
@SHADOWWOLF35465 ай бұрын
this is the exact kinda content i live for. subscribed and here for the ride let's go!
@lonelyzero26735 ай бұрын
Man, been watching you since 3-4 years when you did the first few clannad vids. You still give out nice reviews and insights, great interpretations too.
@EvO19965 ай бұрын
the Monster Hunter Pokke Village Theme fits so nice :D great video
@doitxi91274 ай бұрын
Your takes are immaculate and your voice is great, I'll be checking out your other videos for sure!
@Airwave2k25 ай бұрын
29:33 That point is not true. First Aura trained her ability to see instability. And second Serie says when she talks about mana suppression, that Demon King would have see through Frierens mana suppression. Anyway good run down.
@cyanblues5 ай бұрын
agreed, any mage can conceal their mana for stealth, they just don't do what Flamme and Frieren do, always limiting it to have demon miscalculate their power. The other mages would not do that when fighting demons.
@nurlindafsihotang4923 күн бұрын
You forgot, Denken's master saw trough Frieren too.
@sentryion31065 ай бұрын
I think the fight between wirbel party and denken was cut off because we already know the combat prowess from both sides and for the interest of time Frieren doesn’t need more action after Frieren v Frieren. Instead of that I’m way more interested in what happen between fern and Methode. Also Frieren killing Frieren and then the spigel would kill off the other clones.
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
That’s another thing I wanted to see, and that makes sense from a pacing perspective. We still don’t know much about methode. But yeah, I was nitpicking hardcore to find things I didn’t like
@friedhotwings5 ай бұрын
@@Totaraumthey’ve given us a good amount of what Methode is capable of. Her shield against the gargayole was huge. She has really good fire power and density with her Zoltraak. She can use that offensive spell to overtake another attack while defending at the same time. She has the most precise mana detection of anyone else we’ve seen at the exam. She can use both hypnosis and restraint magic. She also uses a holy scripture. She’s a powerful all-rounder
@Ghorda95 ай бұрын
@@Totaraum they showed us the after math of Fern attacking Methode with the holes in the wall around Methode
@FlantisFrogguАй бұрын
Today, for a very brief moment I talked to a very old man who told me everyone he knew and loved has died, and that he's the last one in his group of friends and family today I don't know what to make of it
@meadowbloom52302 ай бұрын
the reason for flamme and frieren suppressing their mana is to fool the demons into thinking they are weaker than they actually are. they do so by being so good at it that there is hardly any fluctuation visible to a demon. otherwise they couldnt fool them so easily. other mages do it temporarily, to hide their presence, but they arent good enough at it that a demon would be fooled by it.
@remielabraham3017Ай бұрын
about concealing mana, frieren and fern is a bit different, everyone at the mage exam do it for the sake of stealth, while frieren not. frieren conceal the true prowess of her mana everytime, when fighting, sleeping, cooking, etc, so it's different than the other mages.
@KyleKatarn1453 ай бұрын
I spent half of this video on the verge of tears just watching and being reminded of certain parts of this show. I was watching it with my girlfriend the first time through, and I told her this show was special after only seeing the first episode. This show lived up to that statement in every single fucking episode. It's incredible, and I also don't want to read ahead... well actually I do. Desperately. Like you wouldn't fucking believe. But this show was such an experience that knowing what happens before it's animated almost seems like doing it a disservice, even though I am convinced that NOT experiencing it in manga form is also doing the manga a disservice. Excellent video.
@qualitytikoyproductions5 ай бұрын
That weird scene makes me think that it was initially supposed to be the end of the episode, then the next one is what we see when the next episode starts. But they ran out of options in editing, but made the decision to keep both for some reason.
@madokami035 ай бұрын
Hell yeah new Totaraum video :3
@elmatador21395 ай бұрын
I know you were playing devils advocate but a little bit of a correction regarding the mana concealment. It is stated and shown from episode 10 that all mages, including demons, use mana concealment. Its just that the way Frieren and Flamme use it is seen as disgraceful because unlike everyone else who use to conceal their presence, they use it constantly even when they are standing right in front of their opponent. When all other mages use it, it is obvious they are hiding their mana but when Frieren uses it most cannot see her suppression because she desicated so much time instead of other skills, hence why others look down on it, its time consuming to get on Frieren's level. Its underhanded rather than stealth. The metaphor used in episode 10 applies, its the difference between a noble dressing as a commoner for a day to avoid detection and the same noble throwing all of their wealth away to live as a peasant. This was in reference to demons but I think Denken and Serie's (albeit hypocritical) dismisal of it shows it applies to humans and elves as well.
@Redemption6434 ай бұрын
Having that monster hunter music hit me in the nostalgia hard lol. Nice choice.
@chrisnameless83252 ай бұрын
I just finished the season, and Frieren is easily one of my personal favorites.
@Rebel30009 күн бұрын
"A old elf slowly realizing she's been engaged the entire time"
@thomasprovitt18065 ай бұрын
Yo I started this show on the dub by mistake and holy shit did Dub Watchers EAT on this one. I didn't even realize until episode 10 that I was watching in Eng and I just kept it rollin'. Phenomenal show. 10/10
@captainbaffo55715 ай бұрын
44:04 loving the use of Xenogears music
@SomaliSmuli4 ай бұрын
Glad someone pointed out the work put into the english dub, it really went just as hard the rest of the production. Frieren's english voice is what made me fall in love with the character.
@mistingwolf5 ай бұрын
I'm such a sucker for a good dance scene. This scene and the way Frieren stomps Aura are my favorite scenes in the show.
@Sylentdeath5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, much appreciated. PS : Is me or I counted more than one favorite scene in the entire show
@SergioAlvarez454 ай бұрын
Hey, i hear you using the dq8 overworld music,and i want you to know i couldnt pick a better music for the background of a frieren video👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@ultraman66445 ай бұрын
30:26 to be fair i believe the reason all the human Mage's say the magic is not worth learning is because it takes forever to perfect. Frieren practiced for 1000 and still people are able to tell she's doing it. The only reason Fern can do it is she's basically a prodigy.
@Raidanzoup5 ай бұрын
7:22 This is, uh, episode 5 when Stark asks why Frieren's risking a fight with the dragon and she says she wants the spell because some doofus praised her myriad collection, right? 16:08 Woah woah, your notes are from your third watch-through, but you didn't update the part where the subs were changed to say she helped take down monsters? And you read the manga? (Himmel says toubatsu which means like subjugation or whatever) 18:20 Aw hell yeah 20:31 The footage in the background shows the scene where Frieren first tries to tell us how malleable folkspells can be, and this is way before we learn that a "spell to catch birds" can catch anything we ourselves recognize as "bird enough". Which, of course, plays into the things we later learn about executing spells. 22:58 I'm not a big JJK head (I'm in no hurry to pick the manga back up), but please don't phrase it like Naruto invented Japanese magic gestures ): 28:49 I definitely am hoping that was a commercial break thing because that part really sticks out 35:42 Lügner saying "why are you so surprised?" after Fern made no external signs of being surprised just screams that he pre-prep'd that line just to get back at her. 50:35 After ep 15 I like to believe Stark's father was only awkwardly (hey, warrior trait) expressing tough love for Stark so he would grow up strong, but since the village was wiped early, he and Stark never got to have a true heart to heart once Stark had grown up into a fine adult (warrior). When Stoltz first said he was going to go over to Stark, it's like their father tried to quickly course correct a little bit by telling Stoltz not to bully Stark too badly. I only want to believe this because of how Orden and Mut's relationship was presented to us in 15, with Mut growing complacent as the compliments went to his head. I just really want Stark to get some kind of closure for how he was treated (how remembers being treated, the poor traumatized boy). 53:20 Another thing that's easy to miss is that Fern probably hasn't seen a man's ding dong since Heiter was around, and Fern herself was tiny back then. Like Stark and his Jumbo Berry Special parfait (which actually was bigger in the past). Meaning Fern's frame of reference is way skewed. 58:49 I think both Bliss and Anytime Anywhere list Evan Call in the credits, and Bliss was the ED for the feature film length premiere version of eps 1-4. Thanks for the video. I'm having Frieren withdrawals.
@jannegrey5935 ай бұрын
29:50 - they don't conceal their mana. Not in the way Frieren and Flamme did.
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I should’ve been clearer about the difference between concealing and suppression
@NumbingDisasterAnon5 ай бұрын
I hate and love you for using the Crystal Chronicles OST in the background of this video well played funny internet man
@MEDelekates25 күн бұрын
Amazing job man! On the most part you express how i see the show. Writing all that text and watching several times surely payed off. I think this is an outstanding review in comparison to those i already watched. My notes: I don't think frieren eng va is suiting/any good. Also pacing/placement of the flashback in Aura fight in the series had me offended. Hopefully it was better in manga.
@louiscordes87433 ай бұрын
good video. thanks
@gabe_03644 ай бұрын
54:25 amazing that they made this in real life
@andrewhiggins81934 ай бұрын
Millennial faire music fits perfect.
@alexandresobreiramartins94613 ай бұрын
I also never got this idea of concealing mana being a disgraceful tactic. It makes me think of warped notions of samurai honor, that a true samurai never uses guile or underhand strategy, when those are (and were in real life) natural parts of warfare and battles in general.
@lookatthepicture41075 ай бұрын
29:37 Hidding mana is not seen as disgraceful in human society, Flamme called it that bc A. In the time she was alive magic was practically a demon/monster and elf exclusive thing and we are shown a pretty good picture Serie thinks very much innthe same line as demons in that regard (that later she started supressing her own mana is in the same vein as her creating and taking care of the magic flower bed despite calling it a useless spell). To give a somewhat crazy analogy Imagine there's no magic, everyone fights with swords, Flamme came up with coating her sword with poison, which to anyone who prides themselves about their abilities is an insult, that person would be considered a disgrace to any warrior. Flamme pioneered and folstered cultures were coating your blades in poison is normal, with time everyone started to do it and for humans it no longers means you're cheating Is a little more complex than that but I think that's the very basic gist of it For humans, supressing your mana to different extents is normal practice at this point in history
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
I hear you there, thanks for sharing! I like your analogy, and I think I underestimated just how much time had passed since flamme died
@lafeechloe69985 ай бұрын
@@Totaraum I rather see mana dissimulation as pretending to have a disability by wearing a plaster or acting like you're blind just too deceive your opponents
@yukiko3475 ай бұрын
When Frieren refures to magic suppression as a bad thing. Because she knows how it is viewed by Serie who taught it. Threw the means of survival she had too suppress it, but with time it is now viewed as impressive by humans but when Serie is shown. She doesn't suppress it. It is openly viewable to those who since it.
@smreason5 ай бұрын
Me. Every walk outside listening to the ost.
@MoreInsane964 ай бұрын
I want a S2 video btw
@migueldoesstuff69943 ай бұрын
Honestly frieren really is the most human anime dats why its so good
@migueldoesstuff69943 ай бұрын
1 hour glazing sesh
@protostar87905 ай бұрын
Love the ASMR reccomendation at 13:30 😁😁
@inferno91035 ай бұрын
Regarding love blossom i find Mysterious Girlfriend X manga (anime much less but good too) one of the best examples though i covered uo in a very strange way.
@ggadams6394 ай бұрын
people made Frieren a masterpiece because they are overly horny, and just want an excuse that is somewhat deep to justify their cravings... What a day for anime fans...
@KiooZaax4 ай бұрын
29:50 there's a difference between lying and shutting up. Frieren&cie lie, they show themselves weaker than they really are, their mana is suppressed even during open combat. The other mages only suppress their mana for stealth, they don't if their enemy is right in front of them, they shut up but they don't lie.
@TheDemethar4 ай бұрын
im not crying, you are crying.
@migueldoesstuff69943 ай бұрын
49:36 HITS HARD WTF
@xionne78494 ай бұрын
how have you not found the dancing golem it is one of the more memorable spell she used ?! (edit not: I found it by typing: "frieren golem")
@vajbujem66984 ай бұрын
lugner is voiced by sukuna btw
@Mr.SnowMiser5 ай бұрын
Driving me crazy. What's the song at 6:30??? I've heard it before, but can't put my finger on it.
@Mr.SnowMiser5 ай бұрын
I GOT IT!!!! Pokke Village from Monster Hunter
@commercialcritic46765 ай бұрын
Sweet!
@Walsinats45 ай бұрын
I’m glad demons aren’t another misunderstood bunch. It’s weird, but it’s refreshing to see pure evil in the time where grey moral areas are the trope.
@Ikirus2 ай бұрын
They aren't really evil, they just do what they do to survive
@Ikirus2 ай бұрын
There isn't really malicous intent behind it
@Walsinats42 ай бұрын
@@Ikirus it doesn’t matter, evil doesn’t have to come from malice. It can come from cold calculated logic, from love, from desire of self preservation. An Ai preemptively exterminating its creators out of desire to preserve its future expansion is evil, despite not having any malice, so is a serial killer who doesn’t feel empathy. Demons are not an animal which merely kills to eat and survive, they lose this card because they are fully intelligent, sentient creatures with pattern recognition and ability to concoct complex plans. Their absolute disregard for the life of fellow sentient creatures is what makes them pure evil.
@spiritvdc5109Ай бұрын
@@Walsinats4 I believe what you're referring to is that it's refreshing to see an unsympathetic monster in an era where every villain has to have a relatable point to preach
@kaori_arimaАй бұрын
@@Ikirusnice way to defend psychopaths
@benjaminsuazo35645 ай бұрын
A detail about the "proposal" stance of frieren and himmel vs fern and stark is the background, with fern and stark the background is a window, with frieren and himmel there's a clock, not just in the background but framed In-between the two, for me this represents how fern and stark have a real opportunity to something and while you would think himmel and frieren are the same there's something in between the two that they can't overcome, Time.
@acc82415 ай бұрын
Well, and now I cry.
@1Applee3 ай бұрын
Cry
@MegaRad6662 ай бұрын
Perception +5 Roll a wisdom save for tears... Failed
@nurlindafsihotang4923 күн бұрын
Also the item that symbolized fern and stark were wristband, even fern's were bloomed lotus. We know what lotus meant in their world, and fern's will bloomed. While frieren received lotus bud, unbloomed, ring from himmel, without giving himmel any ring from hers😢 Ps : symbol of marriage in asia rarely rings, often we use tokens like wristband between husband-wife, because it symbolizes being bound together for life. Even more so in the case of lover's suicides. And in east asia, red-knot tied between faithed lovers often tied in their pinky fingers, that jilted lover often cut their pinky finger as to cursed the one that cheated.😂
@HazTheGuitarApprentice5 ай бұрын
The dedication of this man to make a hour long frieren video is insane, been a subscriber for a long time btw keep up the good videos
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
I appreciate it, thank you!
@erikk85465 ай бұрын
I love the gentle atmosphere of Frieren: Beyond Journey's End. I love how nuanced the show is in it's characters, worldbuilding etc. Also how it can go from quiet slice-of-life to epic battle sequences and still feel tonally consistent. Also Frieren makes funny faces.
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
Fully agree, well said!
@i_want_a_day4 ай бұрын
You’ve never watch Mushoku Tensei then, its miles better the Frieren.
@Despotic_Waffle4 ай бұрын
@@i_want_a_daynah, its good, but also full of sexual degeneracy
@alexandresobreiramartins94613 ай бұрын
I still prefer Furieeren March of Death or Funeral March.
@tpsam3 ай бұрын
@@Totaraumtalking about first episode immediately crying To your eternity by the same mangaka of a silent voice
@lukuanhsien5 ай бұрын
mana suppression is kinda like hiding your existence and pretend you are weak. normal human mage and demon will both also “hide their mana” but don’t suppress them but for different reason. flame explained why demon only hidden but not suppress. while series explained human’s reason.
@sutirk5 ай бұрын
Exactly! Suppressing your mana completely is used by both humanoids and demons to hide your presence and be stealthy 30:00 What Flamme and Frieren do that is 'disgraceful' is suppressing your mana partially, making you seem weaker Im DBZ terms, what Flamme and Frieren do basically gives them a "this isn't even my final form" advantage in battle
@kitkatisyummy61195 ай бұрын
i felt like it was covered pretty well in the anime. mana for demons essentially says if theyre a noble or not, which while sneaking out to pretend your a commoner is fine and normal, no one wants to give up their status forever. its considered a dirty trick for humans as well as demons because mages estimate fights based on another persons mana, no one would get into a fight with someone with a lot of mana if they have none. its pretty much saying youll fight fair and then kicking sand into their eyes when you start
@drksideofthewal5 ай бұрын
Mana concealment is like hiding in the bushes. Mana suppression is like hobbling around on a cane everywhere you go, pretending to be disabled. It’s more deceitful.
@DellikkilleD28 күн бұрын
@@drksideofthewal nah, mana suppression is just concealed carry. Never judge a threat solely on looks.
@megiddo72295 ай бұрын
I'm 19 minutes in the video and I just want to share this... One of the most subtle throwback reaction/moment I've seen from frieren was when they discovered the hidden room with the untouched mural in the Ruins of the King's Tomb. They showed Fern's face with amazement of the mural, after which, then showed Frieren's which didn't show much interest or emotion towards it but when she noticed Fern having fun/smiling, she also smiled and enjoyed it along with her which was a throwback from Frieren when she watched the new year's sunrise in around episode 4(I think). It was very very brief but it showed her character and how she's growing/learning to understand humanity.
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
I remember pointing that out to my brother as we watched that episode together when it aired. He did not care at all but I thought it was super cool
@megiddo72295 ай бұрын
@@TotaraumTo each his own 😂 but the show "shows" more than telling despite the amount of dialogues(which isn't actually a lot but are appropriately paced for when to "tell" or when to "show"). Like how the trios wardrobe changes for more weather appropriate climate and how Sein keeps his clothes the same despite the abundance of snow. Or how Wirbel's eye twitches for a single frame when he heard Fern say she killed Ehre. It balances conversations/exposition and showing expressions/scenes to give it more depth and give characters their own life. Keiichiro Saito knows emotions and characters much like how he directed Bocchi The Rock. Also, love the vid! Keep on giving us the good stuff!
@quigonkenny5 ай бұрын
Fun fact: that whole scene is anime original. Wasn't in the manga.
@echotango45915 ай бұрын
@@TotaraumI thought it was more a callback to Ferns conversation with Sense. Fern says the main reason she studies magic and journeys is because doing so makes Frieren happy, which makes fern happy. Frieren watching Fern in the kings tomb happens the same episode and I think shows that actually, for Frieren, ferns joy is also a key motivator. It shows how in sync they are and how much they care about each other. I (platonically) ship it. I love stark/fern romantically but Frieren and Fern are the most important to each other… I want them to travel together forever 😢😢
@MirecU5 ай бұрын
@@echotango4591 Yea I think Frieren will stay at her side for the rest of Fern's life....
@PhabioTheHost5 ай бұрын
29:50 Concealing mana long term is what Flamme and Frieren were talking about. It isn't dishonorable to use stealth. But to hide it forever is to have no pride as a mage. Literally, only 4 mages in the entire series do this. And all 4 are of the same line of mages. Flamme, her master, Frieren, and Fern. Other mages "supress" their mana to get off sneak attacks or hide from others using mana detection. But to them it is like holding their breath. Temporary and straining. And of the entire cast only 3 people have seen through Frieren's concealment. So we have yet to see what a "normal" mage would think of it in the modern era. But we can assume that most would find it unpraiseworthy as Flamme stated. Like a dude with a trust fund panhandling on the street for fun.
@deathwater99935 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I thought, thank you for explaining
@ViviBuchlaw4 ай бұрын
I cant help but imagine Fantasy Tiktokers flexing their display of their mana on their prepubecent audience who think its cool 🤣
@max.s52024 ай бұрын
To put in simpler words: Most mages suppress their mana completely for stealth. But Frieren, Fern, Serie and Flamme suppress it partially to trick others. Lugner considers it sacrilegious, Serie finds it a low-priority direction, but Frieren and Flamme find it extremely effective because their goal is to kill demons by any means.
@ethernet7642 ай бұрын
What about Fern though? Does she have a reason for suppressing her mana other than it's what Frieren taught her to do?
@max.s52022 ай бұрын
@@ethernet764 No
@octorokreviews5 ай бұрын
Frieren is the first newly-airing anime I've managed to finish in at least five years. I was just as impacted by it as you; I'm currently editing my own review of the show, and I just want to say: I think yours is the most in-depth and highest quality I've seen so far. Also, I commend you for waiting until the anime actually finished airing before making it - I was also bothered by just how many reviews were published before the show even finished. Great job, my dude!
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it! Best of luck with your review, I’m sure it’s gonna be good. Honestly I was curious so I checked out your channel and I’ve been listening to the chrono trigger video for the last 20 minutes while starting my day lol. It’s very well made and fun to listen to
@octorokreviews5 ай бұрын
@@Totaraum Thanks, man; I'm glad to hear you liked one of my videos! I'm gonna check out the rest of your stuff when I get the chance, but based off this one review, I have to say: you're really good. Your analysis is on point and your sense of humor is quite enjoyable; you seem to know exactly where to place each joke to perfectly transition into each of your next talking points. I wish your channel nothing but the best going forward!
@felixlara29455 ай бұрын
That's funny because I've finished it 5 times already
@NoidoDev5 ай бұрын
I'm sure there's another one you could finish. Did you try Bocchi the Rock? It's somewhat related.
@TacticalDimples5 ай бұрын
There’s a bunch of good anime that’s been released in the past 5 years. Apothecary Diaries, Delicious in Dungeon (currently airing), Made in Abyss, etc.
@batangbatugan5 ай бұрын
I've seen SO many Frieren videos but yours is the most comprehensive in terms of distilling what makes the show good. Any good work of art elicits an emotional response, and for Frieren its a good, peaceful, cathartic feeling. And in this era of prevalent toxicity and cynicism in social media, we need it more than ever.
@jonahj95194 ай бұрын
29:43 I see the confusion here. Frieren and Flamme(and as we find out at the end of the show, Serie) are literally constantly suppressing their magic at every moment of every day. This is different from the typical Mana suppression that any old mage uses, which is just for stealth. That’s just so other mages don’t detect their presence in a fight. Whereas Frieren’s constant mana suppression is an extraordinarily difficult that requires constant vigilance, and the only benefit that it provides is your opponent underestimates you. Demons don’t hate mana suppression as a whole, the show states that even they use the typical stealth kind, however Demons can easily tell when one is just temporarily suppressing their mana, but can’t tell something’s off with Frieren and Flamme, because they are constantly suppressing their mana. Demon society is based on a strong rule the weak mindset, so the idea of pretending you’re weaker than you truly are goes completely against anything and everything demons are. So the demons would never suspect what Frieren and Flamme are doing, so the demons think they’re stronger and try to kill them, and it’s easier to hunt the demons when they come to you. So that’s probably why they look on their mana suppression with such shame. It is a ludicrously difficult technique to learn and they do it for the sole reason that it makes killing demons easier. A sort of physical manifestation of their obsessive hatred for demons.
@DeanStorm283 ай бұрын
Friern and flamme tjem self dont see it as shame... other mages do. They wotk thier whole life for the magic they use and dont supress it. Its like a badge of honor. But what flamme and frieren are doing goes completly against that. For a human mage the magic they have is thier pride they would never supress it only if needed in a mission
@snowed67135 ай бұрын
"uhh... the world" is too poweful of a sentence
@RafikiafReKo5 ай бұрын
Serie describes why conceiling mana is down right stupid and getting it as efficient as Frieren. It takes over 200 years to perfect it, so for most mages (and demons), they use it only to sneak up on someone, but then releases the pressure. There is a reason why Fern is concidered a monster, since she has way too good of stability for a human and adding on that she uses standard spells to perfection. Hunter x Hunter has a similar thing with Nen and in both show it makes you stronger since it basically like tensing up your muscles constantly.
@Abi_B19895 ай бұрын
Frieren IS cinema, and this video is the minimum amount of time and quality it deserves. Thank you kind sir. 😊
@PhabioTheHost5 ай бұрын
Also about mana suppression. Fern is a natural-born genius at mana control. It was stated on multiple occasions that it would take a century or more for a normal mage to learn to do it all the time w/o being noticeable. That means literally every human mage born w/o exceptional natural talent can't learn it to an appreciable level. So Denken the geezer is right that it is useless. He would literally be dead before he got good enough to pass muster. Much less fool someone like Frieren. On top of that, as said, Mana concealment like what Frieren does is fundamentally a different skill than what you talk about mages doing in the modern era which is hide their mana completely for brief moments. Fern's skill in hiding from perception is what won against the mirror match. Not her skill at only looking like she has 20% of her actual mana even while sleeping.
@nurlindafsihotang4923 күн бұрын
Aside, as only student of great demon, of course Denken would have that mindset.
@jannegrey5935 ай бұрын
28:38 - when talking about Denken's unnecessarily repeatable talk: I think there was an ad break in between them. In TV.
@irfanhafizhbuntoro37725 ай бұрын
yeah, but it still weird they left it as is for the streaming
@jannegrey5935 ай бұрын
@@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772 Indeed. But to me who grew up on TV in the 90's that didn't have ads, but rented foreign (mostly American) shows that had ads in them - it's kind of normal to notice such stuff. The fact that I only noticed this one as "obvious" almost speaks to the talent of hiding said stuff by creators. And they had so, so, so much work to do (they had to keep up quality, while also outsourcing couple of episodes - including this one I think) that if this is the biggest problem that Anime has - that it doesn't have version for TV and version for streaming - then I'm all for it! I wish I could watch something great and have the fact that it "only" has 1 version be my biggest worry 🤣. Still probably valid. But then you also get into streaming rights, fact that it is translated so fast and also it would probably be the streaming services job to make the cut.
@jannegrey5935 ай бұрын
Dancing Golem is in episode 5 when Stark asks Frieren why does she want the spell that is in Solar Dragon's nest. So I watched around 100 of those essays on Frieren (I'm just beginning yours) - 1 thing I have to say, almost all of them talked about the world ;)
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
Shoot lol, also thanks for letting me know, for whatever reason I thought it was earlier
@jannegrey5935 ай бұрын
@@Totaraum no problem. I re-watched series again and I was in the middle of Graf Granat Arc when the video dropped. So it was fresh in my memory.
@AftonReign3 ай бұрын
To anyone who skipped anything or didnt watch the full thing, you better keep an eye peeled open when you sleep tonight...🙂
@gusmusicau2 ай бұрын
In the words of someone powerful, "Please be sure to watch your neck at night"
@tnteed16565 ай бұрын
The Reason concealing your mana is seen as a bad thing by humanity is because it takes so long to learn, when one could use that time learning other spells. Fern has been learning it pretty much from age 6 (I think? At the age Frieren take Fern as a apprentice) and thus she only knows very few spells (Pretty sure she only knows basic offensive and basic defensive magic)
@vincentflannigan27275 ай бұрын
1 min in and dam dude is down worse for Frieren than me! Quite the task if I do seiso. Anyway back to the vid
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
Real
@pabloruansabino39335 ай бұрын
I'm feeling exactly like you buddy. I was hooked so hard for this show that almost hurt rewatch and remember The lessons across The anime. I'm from Brazil and tried a lot share this anime to have anyone to talk about it but anyway Im really happy to see your vídeo saying what i want to say to all the world about this masterpiece. If exist a religion who the leader was himmel i trully want be a evangelist, because frieren remember us all about how to live and this is truly precious! Its atemporal, certain beyound any rank or shonen culture of comparison between main characters, its much deep than this. Its a anime for the people who understand the meaning and take him has the masterpiece that he is and for the people who doesnot understand yet its a peak of animation with all the kind of things we want to see, humor, fanservice done right (ubeeel armpit and serie foot hummyyy hahaha lop), amazing battles and a smooth and gentle journey, a perfect storytelling that make him a 10/10 anime to any reviewer.
@Torbarian5 ай бұрын
6:42 I doubt you will see this but The way Frieren uses magic not for her hatred of demons only its that she learned from Flamme on how to fight demons no other entity was fighting like this before her and none since because Frieren never took on any apprentices. Fern is the first entity in 100 years to start fighting like this because Heiter only knew that to help her train as a mage which he learned from Frieren. So it comes full circle why Fern is so good and why Serie wants her because shes been training since shes a child while most Humans Serie took most likely were already 30+ for her to even notice. This was way longer then I thought it be but thats just how nuanced the show is when one little detail changes it effects everyone and their actions. Also the other Mages are not concealing their mana 24/7 thats what Fern and Frieren are doing. They can conceal their mana 24/7 but it takes time and is a skill that does not help them very much so to dedicate the time needed seems useless to them. The reason it is useless is how are you going to get "known" for learning a skill to keep a low profile? It so well done
@cah1-kr9eb5 ай бұрын
I must be confused. Not sure what the inconsistency is with mana suppression that you point out at 29:24 . I didn't think that anyone but Frieren, Fern, Flamme and now probably Serie where doing that as a way of life, continually convincing everyone around them that they have less mana. Nor did I see anything show they were as good at completely suppressing it for stealth as Fern.
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
I don't believe anyone else is doing it, I'm just wondering why the other mages are ok with them doing it. I figured Flamme's influence over humanity's magic would've made it taboo or something. It could've happened and Serie probably would've reverted it, but I don't know, I just think it's something that should've been addressed or explained in some way
@cah1-kr9eb5 ай бұрын
@Totaraum I suppose one case for why the author didn't have Flamme make it taboo could be that it would only draw attention to a practice that she's trying to keep hush hush. Wasn't really on anyone's radar, so why put it there. As for why they said it makes a mockery of it all, I think that's addressed by how Fern and Frieren say they only enjoy magic "somewhat." It's implied that being forced to do it all the time seems to take its toll -- spending less time building and enjoying it. I got the impression that others seem to have more of a "Why the f* would you order Vintage Cote de Boeuf well done and smothered in A1 sauce for every meal" kind of view on it -- a complete waste and not sustainable. I believe Serie addressed how it could be accomplished and be useful, but continued to call it a waste and that there's better ways.
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
@@cah1-kr9eb I guess I wish we weren't left to speculate on that point. I like thinking about elements that create mystery and intrigue after a show is over, not ones that leave the reason behind a character's behavior unresolved I like your interpretation, it's similar to what I was thinking but I think I took issue with Frieren and Flamme calling themselves a disgrace. It felt like it was worded so strongly only so they could create a parallel between how the demons and themselves view the magic they use
@rediciclepop46395 ай бұрын
@@TotaraumMy take on the reason for why Flamme and Frieren find mana suppression as “shameful” and a “mockery” is because both of them love peaceful magic. Flamme’s favorite spell is flowerbed magic and her goal in life was to spread magic across humankind to share its beauty. Frieren is very much the same. Suppression is magic that runs contrary to their love of beautiful peaceful magic and goal of sharing it. Suppression is only really useful in combat. By nature suppression’s aim is to deceive and hide magic away. This is antithetical to spreading the beauty of magic. Flamme is a peaceful mage by nature but her hatred of demons leads her to suppress those inclinations in pursuit of revenge. This incongruity of mana suppression with her philosophy is why she views her practice of it as shameful. Other human mages do not necessarily share this philosophy on magic so they do not inherently dislike suppression on a fundamental level. However, most don’t really practice it as a technique, it requires too much investment to be able to meaningfully conceal it, especially against demons.
@friedhotwings5 ай бұрын
@@rediciclepop4639it has everything to do with pride. For mages, your mana and thus your technique, signature spell, power, etc is directly linked to how powerful you are. The ultimate test of your power as a mage is a magic showdown, fair and square. That’s what Flamme meant when she said the 3 demon generals had every intention of concealing their mana and surprise attacking until they realized Flamme and Frieren were mages. Pride and overconfidence.
@snimon58245 ай бұрын
I knew i wasn't the only one to noticed that Frieren's soundtrack have the same vibe with Monster Hunter. Certain tracks sounds straight out of MH: Iceborne.
@KrulKrukuw5 ай бұрын
A small youtuber doing an hour long essay that's actually this good written and well thought is unheard of really. I hope this video blows up bro! You deserve it and so does Frieren deserve even more attention and recognition (yes I know it already has plenty already, but no matter what happens, this show will always deserve even more).
@yossigershon83575 ай бұрын
The episode must have taken many, many, MANY hours to prepare and edit. GOOD WORK MAN! Keep pushing
@marlonb.40175 ай бұрын
I’ve watched just about every Frieren video I have seen through the algorithm, and this is my first time subscribing after. Nice work.
@averlinbc56805 ай бұрын
It’s been a very long time, since a show taught me anything but I learnt that even if it’s a day or a week or an hour, spend the time with people and things that you love because time slips fast, and you never got it back🧡
@GiboAuja5 ай бұрын
“I teared up because I kind of understood where she’s coming from”. That’s a lot of this show
@FaunoAtelie5 ай бұрын
29:45 Well to be fair, conceiling mana is different from disguising it, Frieren doesn't only conceal her mana, that's something that everyone does, including the demons (hence the scene where Flamme ices a bunch of them, they were hiding up until they realised she was a mage) Frieren makes it seem like her full amount of mana is smaller than it is, which is considered disgraceful by Flamme, which is someone who lived at least a 1000 years ago, and as a result, by Frieren (And later on presumably Fern). None of the contemporary characters ever state they think anything of it i don't think. It seems to me that the "disgracefulness" of it was much more an opinion of Flamme's than a widespread belief. But the writing could have done a better job of distinguishing the concealment (which is common practice, being basically stealth) from the disguising (which is something Flamme, Frieren, Serie and Fern do specifically to beat demons).
@FaunoAtelie3 ай бұрын
Also there's a full scene where flamme explains the difference word for word
@lesaintcookie44795 ай бұрын
1 hour video from the GOAT about the GOAT anime of this year, my dream
@Joshi1i15 ай бұрын
1 hour, this is about to be good.
@Leitharin5 ай бұрын
A hand sign to make MAPPA treat their employees better was so out of nowhere I burst out laughing at 3am
@astr08683 ай бұрын
You should check out jjk, it reaches the same as if not higher heights as naruto in less than a hundred eppisodes as opposed to 500
@AnnohaSF5 ай бұрын
31:25. *WHAT IS THIS A CROSSOVER EPISODE!?!?!??!!?!* I know it’s not typically the kind of show you cover, but I’d LOVE to see a Bojack video at some point.
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
No idea how I'd tackle it but if a good idea strikes I'd be all for it, love that show
@akward82465 ай бұрын
30:00 ok lets talk abit about the whole conceal mana thing It is addressed, but the anime doesnt explicitly say it to you. Flammel time was 1000+ years ago and back then people even consider researching demon magic as something taboo, so after Flammel's will being granted by Serie, its only fair that Serie's words carry more weight, so when she say the skill is only useless, then it is JUST useless. In ep 27 Serie talks about mana concealment as 'useless' and 'unnecessary' because it takes decades for untalented mages to refine it and to make a practical use out of it without being discovered by demons in just a glance, a mage would benefits much more by cultivating their mana pools or practice their spell during all those years, which is why she said "Frieren is actually unskilled for a mage her age" and got disappointed in Frieren so much. That is why mana concealment is 'underestimated', cause unless you're an Elf with endless time or someone with innate talent like Fern (good mana control even at a young age, "learned 10 years worth of knowledge in just 4 years" -Frieren ep 2), you're wasting time inefficiently. That is how the anime tells you its different. 30:57 the manga itself didnt provide material for denken vs wirbell or fern vs methode, so the anime cant really do much. Madhouse already added too much important scenes to elevate the story, they probably couldnt afford any more budget into those fights so they just skipped it like the manga. But either way, they just need to stall until Frieren mimic is defeated so it probably wouldnt be as exciting.
@akward82465 ай бұрын
Also, ofc Serie the living great tsundere would never let her beloved student's technique to be etched in history as a disgrace, even though she speaks harshly.
@RefreshingMirage5 ай бұрын
Something tells me I should watch this video or something, don’t know, just a hunch
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
I would appreciate it if you did lol
@RefreshingMirage5 ай бұрын
@@Totaraum I’m planning to watch the anime at some point, so it won’t be any time soon, sorry
@Totaraum5 ай бұрын
@@RefreshingMirage no worries! I wouldn’t want to spoil it for you
@jimmehbob65765 күн бұрын
after you mentioned you had that picture of stark looking at a giant turd cloud I realized that a lot of moments in frieren have big desktop background potential because of how consistently beautiful the art in this show is
@fatwizard12343 ай бұрын
You spoke your truth man and that toke. Courage so good on you.❤
@venomtailOG5 ай бұрын
I've never been this in awe of a creative piece of media since, well feels like ever. Hope Frieren sustains it's superb quality and has a well written ending.
@freshskittles924 ай бұрын
thoughts: 1.) god i wish Frieren would rub my nose in it... uwu 2.) the south park scene change music was suuuuch a great bit. 3.) subbed 4.) Flamme and Frieren held the view that hiding mana was dishonorable like a thousand years ago. Humanity has changed a lot. I took it moreso like "culture has shifted this much in a millenia". Idk i can see where you're coming from... but I didn't feel weird about it not being directly spelled out for me.
@KiooZaax4 ай бұрын
55:16 I mean... she did naruto run multiple times to get quickly ot the treasures, like right after Stark killed the dragon, or during the 2nd stage of the 1st class exam, sooo.... you're not THAT wrong 👀
@alexandresobreiramartins94613 ай бұрын
You may love Serie, but I absolutely hate and despise people like her. Of course that's got nothing to do with her as a character, I very much admire her in that regard. Like how the Major in Hellsing is as despicable as can be, but is a great and interesting character.
@igloo155 ай бұрын
I think you got the mana stuff wrong. You mentioned all the mages doing it and not caring. When in reality you are getting mana concealment and mana suppressing mixed up. The thing Flamme said was dishonorable was supressing mana not concealment. None of the other mages in the exam used mana suppression. In fact none of them even knew frieren was doing suppression. The only one who knew of frieren's suppression was Lernen which serie mentions in episode 27. Suppression is making your mana pool look low 24/7. Suppression does not hide your mana from detection. Concealment is about hiding from mana detection and is temporary. Suppression was considered cowardly because its about tricking people in battle. Its like a fighter taking hits taking a knee making opponent think you are weak and then sucker punching them when they get close. You continue the misunderstanding to clone fight. Denken never said anything about mana suppression and didn't even know frieren or fern was doing it. There is a good moment in episode 24 where methode tries to restrict frieren but can't. She says something like usually this would work barring a huge difference in mana and she seems confused. Basically methode thought frieren's mana was close to her own, not knowing that frieren was supressing her mana. Also mana suppression was pointless in clone battle and did not help or hurt them at all. It was mana concealment which was important and again Flamme and all the mages think concealment is fine to use. The other issue with clones coming back I am confused about. The point of showing clones coming back was to add tension. Since the longer frieren takes to win the worse off those outside the room will be. Also we do see denken's clone fight wirbel's team in the montage before the final frieren clone battle sequence.
@Crybaby-Media5 ай бұрын
Having frieren on the shelf next to a silent voice is perfect . I organize my manga thematically , and silent voice and frieren are both stories of someone who was maybe a little cold , but realizes the true value of life comes from love and relationships. They are thematically very similar . Redemption stories , when the main character maybe even wasn’t evil to begin with . Just ignorant .
@wamaschawama51785 ай бұрын
A silent voice is goated man and same goes for Frieren. Now that you say it, I realize how similar they are as well. No wonder I love them😂