'I'm Not Hard to Manage' Tamar's Take | Tamar & Vince | WE tv

[@shee2muchh533]

I really think he had ALOT todo with her not being on the real anymore

[@nontombibashe571]

Tia Charles he got her fired and she knows don't get why she doesn't admit that and apologise to those girls

[@casandra4234]

U are so right, He wanted her to stay home. & make her a house wife. Plus he wanted more kids. But tamara was like hell no. That's why she left. & that's why vinces was messing up her singing career on purpose. Tamara to smart for that shit. She wants her singing career.

[@shee2muchh533]

CaSandra yeah that lady been singing since what 12 or 16 one of those lol but idk I think them being on reality tv messed them up to. Seems like everybody is sooooo much happier when they start the first seasons or episodes on their shows. Then by season 3-4 all hell breaking loose. Not cool.

[@MarquesTheProducer]

People blamed her attitude for her getting fired. I never watched The Real but I seen her clips on KZbin. I think it is Vince. Look how many friends she lost / people she went off on because of Vince’s miscommunication...This is why his career died too 😭

[@Promiseisme01]

Yeah. He basically got her fired!!!

[@linbonn4749]

Tamar grew up...was fed up....and wanted out. The fact that VInce's life is falling apart...and she is flourishing...speaks VOLUMES.

[@letmedarling4452]

Tamar is a total narcissist and she is NOT doing well. Her dumb ass should have stayed married. Vince cared for her and managed her well inspire of all she put him through. Now she is divorced, alone again and still miserable. Vince is probably enjoying all the peace in his home.

[@rashadhaughton22]

Iono, she still was up to the same tactics after he left 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@jonahlogan7234]

She's not flourishing. Plastic surgery... Blonde hair... Leviticus 13.. blonde hair is a curse nut bag. She's as stupid as she was when she married f$t Vincent to boost her career.

[@GoddessPower777]

his life didn’t fall apart.. hers was.

[@tymac9127]

Well that attempt and failed relationship with a controlling freak like David is just funny

[@leslieburgess6985]

Loni was right. She said Tamar wanted a new manager

[@AnnaLexi]

*_Exactly!! & he got her fired from The Real too.._*

[@TheMwendaa]

@@AnnaLexi THAT was Vince???

[@AnnaLexi]

@@TheMwendaa *_Oh yeah!! For sure!!_*

[@TheMwendaa]

@@AnnaLexi giiiirrrrl! What was it all in aid of?

[@chanelyoung990]

He lying like champ I think she didn’t check the contact because she totally and completely trusted him

[@birdielee8175]

she should have read her contract.

[@marywrenn5262]

We all know it's easy to hide your flaws and problems behind a person like Tamar. She's loud and her mouth does get her in trouble. But he is stubborn, at times cruel and definitely controlling. It was a toxic relationship that needed to end.

[@loveallshay1659]

You don't what the hell you talking about

[@Mehrunissah93]

Pretty sure Vince was fired as a manager by several artists, so...'_' not sure what his excuses are for the other people. Is everyone hard to manage or is it just like Toni said-- that he hides things and doesn't go out and get the gigs asked of him?

[@GoitseC]

I remember when Toni wanted to part ways with Vincent because she wasn't happy with his service and Tamar acted like Toni was so wrong for that and acted like it was Toni's fault that she wasn't getting anywhere

[@ItsJasDarling]

Right, but I think she was also covering for her husband and backing him up. Who wants to hear your husband isn’t handling business correctly, especially with your sister. He should’ve never managed her once he became her brother in law and he should’ve never managed his wife 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@tessapompino3132]

I remember that! And I tried to look for that episode! Toni wasn't satisfied with him as a manager obviously he's not doing enough when someone points that out he gets angry

[@tessapompino3132]

​@ItsJasDarling I was thinking the same things! Toni thought of firing him as a manager but I keep looking for that episode I can't find it I even tried Google

[@teetawn9454]

Tamar seemed so defeated here. Vince showed no compassion. He barely listened. He didn't care about Tamar's feelings. It's a real shame. My heart went out to Tamar in this clip. She looked so sad and at her wits end. His demeanor to her in this piece, was totally hostile, sarcastic, uncaring and more. I have seen him in other episodes act similarly. I wondered what his deal was. Good thing shes away from that level of disrespect.

[@loveallshay1659]

Facts

[@tiffanyterrell3403]

I agree

[@Simlicity09]

This isn’t a conversation you have amongst friends

[@alyehgillum4878]

To be all the way real. Tamar is right. You can't mix business and pleasure. Things get really complicated, issues arise and it's hard to separate the two. Especially when your married to your manager.

[@JM-ic1sf]

She only learned that in the end. Tony told her this but she didn't listen

[@ChristianBoy16]

@@JM-ic1sf facts!!

[@liplock9272]

I fully believe TAMAR! Finding your own truth and getting out of denial is the first step to HAPPINESS

[@THEECARMELLÓ]

She honestly isn’t hard to manage her manager now is always bragging on how focused she is Vince was holding her back a lot

[@ARaebow]

He really did its a shame after the divorce Tamar started dropping more music videos from her vision and I'm very happy for her 💕

[@JCole-fg3rr]

That in no way means she’s not hard to manage.

[@jkz8565]

I'm sure it's hard to manage your wife regardless because work issues become personal issues and personal issues get brought into work. Even if she was a hard worker managing your spouse for some people is probably difficult no matter what.

[@casandra4234]

He wanted her to stay home. & make her a house wife. Plus he wanted more kids. But tamara was like hell no. That's why she left. & that's why vinces was messing up her singing career on purpose. Tamara to smart for that shit. She wants her singing career.

[@1shaymocha]

So .. is she reaching for the stars now that Vincent is gone? With ALL the drama over the last few months... the problem is obviously not Vincent.. hes gone and the Saga continues.. She is really delusional

[@t.m7999]

Wasn’t Vince fired by Lady Gaga and Remy Ma

[@linbonn4749]

@Anne Day Yep

[@portiamatthews4299]

Remy Gaga and Toni all left Vince bcuz of the issues with Tamar wanting him to put all his time on her. They said it. And Tamar even said that she didn't want Vince working with nobody else cuz she wanted all of his attention.

[@1shaymocha]

People change managers all the time.. it's like the cycle of life

[@Bloooooooooooppp]

@@portiamatthews4299 where did they say it ?

[@imbored6037]

@@portiamatthews4299 WHOOO said THAT!?

[@amandalouis1591]

He doesn't even let her speak. She looks scared to challenge him.

[@diamond4360]

Amanda Louis that part he look like he was going to do something to her no cap

[@thatsojordy]

Toni, Remy Ma, Lady Gaga I mean....just a few names and they all left Vince and their careers have improved. Only reason I feel like Tamar stayed for SO LONG was because she was married to Vince and because of Logan.

[@JCole-fg3rr]

Not true lol. All their careers have taken a tumble.

[@Bloooooooooooppp]

Gaga’s career and remy ma’s career went downhill after Vince. Gaga is just starting to get back to where she was but still not there yet.

[@JCole-fg3rr]

Ryan Henry if we’re being honest Gaga isn’t

[@1shaymocha]

Due to Tamar wanting Vince to focus on her

[@mariahyohannes]

HUH??????,

[@berniceshed]

I believe Tamar. Vincent in the same exact setting said get another manager I’m cool with that. Then he says after “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” his actions don’t back up his words and he was saying it just so he could say he said it, he wants to control her. He feels like he made her and it seems like he doesn’t want her to succeed without him or without doing what he wants. My auntie said this when Love and War came out and I didn’t believe her. She said “you know why that album came out right?” And I was like well “Vince said she wasn’t ready to put out an album and it came out because she’s ready now”. My auntie said “Nope! She gave him what he wanted, a baby!” I was like “LIES!” She was right though. He is so controlling it’s scary! I truly believe he would mess things up for her if she didn’t do what he wanted. Not trying to excuse the things Tamar does but we all could CLEARLY see that the women on The Real and Tamar working on The Real really made her happy. Leading up to her being fired Vincent made it known to Tamar on Tamar and Vince and also on The Real that he wanted another child. Tamar wasn’t on board with that and also Loni said she was looking for a new manager and was scared to tell Vince. Two things Vince clearly was not or wouldn’t be happy about. All of a sudden she’s fired from The Real and she doesn’t know why?! Come on man! That’s not a coincidence 🤷🏾‍♀️ it’s sad. I’m glad Tamar is finding happiness!

[@rashadhaughton22]

So y she was up to the same tactics after he left??

[@K.DeVille]

@@rashadhaughton22 how many times are you gonna say this

[@rashadhaughton22]

@@K.DeVille as many times as u sanitize your stank kewchie 🫤

[@K.DeVille]

@@rashadhaughton22 😭🙄 you so fkin lame lmao

[@Philiaaa]

@@rashadhaughton22what tactics

[@sos494]

He’s acting brand new after the weight loss

[@travisjackson7324]

I WOULD TOO HE IS A BRAND NEW PERSON

[@K.DeVille]

Don’t know why he looks a mess

[@KuietstorhmEnt901]

@@K.DeVille 😅

[@ER_Channel_00]

I miss Tamar Her personality, smarts, talent & humour

[@nreynolds75243]

Vince is passive-aggressive. Which isn't good. Tamar speaks her mind and Vince doesn't like it. They both go about communication in the wrong way. Tamar needs to tone down a bit and think thru her words so she can phrase them better. Vince needs to be more upfront.

[@she4136]

I like the balanced view expressed here. Its NEVER just on one person when communication is a multi-person dynamic that requires ALL parties to involve to see what it is they are doing and to set forth the standard by which they want to be treated. You get what you give. But sometimes what's given wasn't warranted.

[@loveallshay1659]

She talking as calm as I ever seen.

[@dhw3216]

I wonder if she's having any flashbacks to when Toni was trying to tell her why she didn't want Vince to manage her anymore? The way she came down on Toni for that decision. Smh.

[@shantebarze1068]

I remember Tamar sharing about her Abusive relationship she was Married before Vince, and went through abuse verbally an mentally. That's the pattern how can you excel forward with someone controlling, manipulative, abusive, etc Seems like Vince became bitter and revengeful towards Tamar, after he leaves at weight, but before he was kind of calm and funny. Having difference of opinions along with different personalities, it seems like they grew apart after Logan an Vince weight loss. Moving forward but not together it would be great to see Tamar get back on track and get therapy about all of the above, childhood abuse as well as Marriage Abuse an other things she needs to get healed and delivered from. She definitely has a calling on her life spiritually, an a gifted artist.

[@darlenne7918]

Control issues from both sides sista... but she didn’t learn how to compromise from her momma .. it’s sad..

[@bridgetthackett8583]

He's very arrogant!!! You have to give respect in order to get it!! ✔💯

[@portiamatthews4299]

She said she hadn't heard that she's hard to manage. Toni and Towanda said it in so many words

[@narie__b]

They said it how? Because if they were talking about her as a person in her personal life, managing an artist and dealing with a personal with issues are two separate entities.

[@loveallshay1659]

Towanda was envy of Tamar don't believe nothing she say

[@mama_africa473]

she just doesn't listen

[@Ty.S93]

They said she was hard to be in a group with, kinda two different things

[@portiamatthews4299]

@@Ty.S93 no hun it's not. Vince said she's hard to work with and that's with her solo career. Bottom line whether in a group or solo she's hard to work with. It ain't a turn on and off situation. Don't let no one else see ur post or hear u say that again cuz wat u said makes no sense 🙄😳🤔

[@user-ly2cm6zk5l]

Having your husband as your manager was already sticky, coz they’re experiencing the worst case scenario! Family and business NEVERRR mix because of situation like this. If you are gonna have your man be you manager have a contract that’s as tuff as a prenup to cover yourself: IF you chose to mix family and pleasure.

[@Africangyal]

Vince was toxic to her, he wouldn't even listen

[@nikitarichardson9169]

Right, kept talking over her every single time.

[@1shaymocha]

I guess her mom, dad, sisters, WE TV, and David are all toxic to her as well... By the way... the list could go on and on... why everyone wanna miss treat this lady?

[@Kenyana79]

She lies jus to hear herself. She stay blaming him for shit that she starts and does she never accountable or to blame. She is hard to manage. Have y'all not watched these shows. Why are y'all actin brand new like this girl is a saint. Stop it she is part of the damn problem

[@travisjackson7324]

I KNOW THATS RIGHT TAMAR IS VERY RUDE AND DISRESPECTFUL TO VINCE WANNA BE SEEN I DONT LIKE HER WAYS

[@sandyp9220]

She has nice teeth

[@cataliaflower6555]

i dont like him hes rude

[@travisjackson7324]

I THINK TAMAR IS VERY RUDE I DONT LIKE HER

[@JM-ic1sf]

Tamar was with Vince for the lifestyle. She got her career when it flourished, she was like thats it. She wanted him to work with only her, it was constant jealousy. Then when Vince had financial troubles she threw him under the bus instead of being by his side. She was out. Tamar is alot to handle, and dosent like the truth and Vince do have some wrongs in the situation too.

[@kbwamarc001]

The reason Vince got fired by those other artists was because of Tamar. She was always fussing that Vince wasn’t focus on her. She had said several times she only wants him to work with her. She finally got what she wanted. Now she dumps him when he’s in money issues.... 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@altinawashington-key5675]

I like my little simple life 🙄

[@sophiarose9812]

She looks v good with that shirt black hair 😍

[@itsmichelle_l1697]

Her victim mentality is strong .. Her mother & Toni encouraged it her whole life .. She says she never lies but through BFV she lied all the time & never took accountability

[@14734390]

I Believe Tamar Is Beautiful, Talented, And Honest. I Believe Vince Health Should Be Their Focus At This Time. Clearly He Looks Tired Of Fighting. He Doesn't Seem Well Enough For Stress, Actually Nor Is She. It's Too Much On Their Heart Along With Raising A Beautiful Son. The Arguments Were Not Worth Sacrifing Their Peace! Sorry They Didn't make It. God Is With Them Both. I wish Peace, Love. Most of All Understanding...

[@shaggyajao5685]

Tamar is pretty tho!

[@CoconuffGT81]

I hope they are getting retroactive royalties from this from We tv

[@Ultravioletx1]

She's impossible but to her she's perfect

[@GoddessPower777]

Ultravioletx1 exactly!! Then when she got tired and wanted a little space, or to do things outside of him he wouldn’t allow it. Started messing up as a manager on purpose so either she flops or is in the situation to need him. That’s why after him not being fair with her getting another manager she decided to not do another album to save her marriage. We all on Tamar’s mouth and childish ways but Vince definitely isn’t a saint

[@RayEmureMusic]

Tamar always had her friends around and never saw her and Vince in too many one on one situations. She's still doing the same thing now in her new relationship. Good luck to her.

[@alexishills]

Because he was beating her ass lol it’s not funny but I’m not gon talk one on one with some one who lays hands on me alone lol sorry and even though he lost weight he to big to be laying hands on anyone

[@jadecolbert4286]

That nigga was busy being foul; that’s why he was always mia

[@sambam5382]

Vince REALLY Starting Feeling Himself After Dat Lil Weight Loss

[@reubenolukoya9283]

Vince is not fine sorry for saying it

[@cierreasia]

From season 1 of BFV, you see how Tamar dealt with EVERYBODY including her family, Vince, the team that she worked with for her music. She's notorious for talking back, getting attitudes, and being rude. So yea, she looks hard to manage. She's looked that way from day 1

[@tsmitty5782]

I’m ready for the new season of bfv i wanna know the sisters take 😂😂

[@Bloooooooooooppp]

I think Vince needed a break break after all his health issues.

[@BlkOnyx0508]

Now you know what velcro meant. Controlling!

[@donalddavis6689]

Tamra, Are A Good Person, Her & Vince Just Needs Time!! Be There For Her!!! Laugh & Talk!!! Just Be Happy For 1 Another.

[@yannimaee]

3:17 her teeth white &' perfect af 🥴.

[@tessapompino3132]

This is deja vu! Can anyone please tell me that episode where Toni said she's thinking of firing vince and getting new management

[@reneejones2627]

Tamar your family always says they can't communitcate with you...i see the same dynamics with you and vince

[@wavyblkqueen]

To whom much is given…. Much is required. & sometimes even Sacrifices will be made, their marriage was one!

[@Angel123bb1]

Why does he always try to act perfect.....and Tamar is to MUCH

[@nikitarichardson9169]

Vince was borderline Narcissistic...or absolutely Narcissistic...one or the other...

[@Baybay25]

And so is Tamar

[@richardsdee7184]

Toni left and got a new manager that should tell you something 🥺

[@HoneyJ1986]

Toni switched managers because she didn't want to share the same manager with her sister Tamar

[@anonymousanonymous1513]

He definitely was beating her up

[@tutia3260]

After watching this....he might be the reason why she was fired from the Real...cause she is right Vince was controlling!

[@richardsdee7184]

So I wonder what other managers are saying ?

[@atribecalledwoke2261]

Vince is my dads blood first cousin 💯I believe it’s some truths in what Tamar said

[@zataishasims9732]

ATribeCalled Woke so what she saying is accurate?

[@cierreasia]

Noone cares

[@Life_with_AngieB]

It was all good when everyone needed a come up from Vincent .

[@sexytrinny52]

Please Vince as crooked as they come.

[@thefreckledafrikan]

So....wayment....she thinks she doesn't go off & overreact? Lol....girl bye

[@calvthomas6153]

I've been binge watching TB's shows, and she can definitely suck the air out of any given room. Ughhh!!!🤦‍♀️. HOWEVER... VH is no picnic to live with either. He was very dismissive towards her pov, flippant, rude, and showed no respect towards her as his wife and even less as his client. And that's on camera. Imagine what it was like behind closed doors. Either she got worse AFTER she became a household name, or he knew what he was getting into when he met and got with her. Either way being together must've felt extremely exhausting. He was so argumentative, so that probably didn't help the relationship either.

[@28frostking96]

Tamar looks like Trina with the short bob❤❤❤❤❤

[@Monaex98]

He’s BEEN this way. Go watch season 1 BFV.

[@karaokecatlady]

It seems she is because she doesn't consider directions.

[@DakitaRFelix]

karaokecatlady A manager works for you, you don't work for the manager. What people don't understand is that the average manager gets cussed out way worse than a relative that manages someone when something isn't right. Right or wrong that is the nature of the beast. A manager takes direction they do not give directions, suggestions yes, but not directions. However, if you're new to the game and need someone to show you the ropes you may have a manager that tells you what to do. She's been in this game for a minute now as an artist. She knows what she does and doesn't want. She seems to be very hands on. This is why once a person knows how the industry works they switch to a manager who can take them farther and knows how to navigate the ends and outs, but also knows they are an employee not the employer. When your manager is related to you or a significant other they tend to treat you as if you work for them and boss you around but the artist is their boss. This is why people in this situation end up butting heads. Once you give that power away it's hard to take it back.

[@karaokecatlady]

Dakita R. Felix Hi. I understand your perspective. Thx.

[@kristirobertson8859]

Husbands shouldn't be their wives manager....periodt!

[@donalddavis6689]

Vince, He Needs To Be There For Tamar!! And Come Clean About The Contract Signing & Her Business Lawyer. They Both Have A Child Together. I Hope That They Can Put The Past Behind Them!! And Start Coming Together As One. 😇😇.

[@Trixiesongzxoxo]

Why I feel so sorry for poor innocent Vince he definitely deserves some body way better than Tamar after all she married him for his money and everybody knows that😒

[@beauty4ashescontemporarysc802]

Tamar is such drama girl your sister is an artist and was working with vincent she knew what was up . Thata why she is not on air or doing as much . Her attitude and mouth got her in trouble period

[@nomcebomjoka4750]

And then Tamar changed management Look at her career now , sad She should’ve kept vince as her manager period

[@Skittles861]

The spelling in the subtitles is the true disappointment.

[@Trixiesongzxoxo]

I know a girl who got married at the age of fifteen is that even legal

[@travisjackson7324]

Tamar just wants someone else period she has not said why she want new Management yet it's like she is hoping around the real reason she don't want Vincent anymore The Grass Is Not Always Greener On The Other Side.

[@zoeybrinxx]

Tamar do to much

[@mrpassrush1]

I’m with Vince

[@debrajames6316]

Well a year later, Tamar left Vince and he is in serious financial problems. He owes a lot of money to the record label and the IRS. Tamar is touring and has several deals on the table and has a new man that spoils her.

[@portiamatthews4299]

She said that he hurt her feelings calling her argumentative. She said that she never heard that. Tamar is delusional. I hate people like her. Cuz she say more or speak louder that wat she say is the truth.

[@mykel1990]

That’s not what she said. Hard to manage and argumentative are two different things.

[@Biggs86]

mykel1990 exactly comprehension is clearly rare

[@teegreen3909]

Why can't he feel good about his weight loss

[@casandra4234]

He wanted her to stay home. & make her a house wife. Plus he wanted more kids. But tamara was like hell no. That's why she left. & that's why vinces was messing up her singing career on purpose. Tamara to smart for that shit. She wants her singing career.

[@nicolamunroe1176]

Vince is the ultimate gaslighter……

[@KanikaNewsome-pj6jb]

3:16

[@shayla470]

It aint hard to manage a women unless you make it hard to manage ok

[@ursulanicholson5166]

🤦🏽‍♀️

[@jessieford1421]

Girl he tried it

[@shaggyajao5685]

He did tried it vince need to have several seats like tamar said he need to seat down somewhere!

[@thumper_the_protagonist2815]

Vince looks like a chewed up piece of gum.

[@guymichel8533]

Tamar was so stuck up. She ain’t no Beyoncé! Wake up and smell the coffee.

[@Tinih-nd8rr]

Tamar was a difficult and he is controlling. But are accurate

[@deetaylor9794]

Controlling Vince

[@shaggyajao5685]

He was annoying as hell!

[@marylett210]

Tamar and Vince do not match,do even look right together,!

[@shaggyajao5685]

I know she like big 👄 all mighty. And he so chill out and calm and collect. And vince is not even cute not at all. Sorry boom I said that.😊

[@AlbertoRodriguez-ws8wc]

Over it

[@missnene8339]

I'm glad Vince is not with Tamar. I pray he is living his best and happy life.

[@A.Jionni]

This is when the abuse was really really bad 🥺…. I would’ve had Vince big ass jumped

[@natarich7713]

Idk if they're talking about the beginning. Season 1 or 2 where he kept saying she hasn't signed or she won't sign? If it is 👀👀Vincent Herbert just L.I.E.D!!!

[@theoplise3213]

Grow up. If you don't you will be lonely and miserble

[@itsamadmadmadmadworldsadbu9205]

Tamar was and is full of crap Vince tolerated Tamar behavior because he was married and still had some feelings for her, David the Ex boyfriend who had ran away and didn't last that long proves she is and was the problem her own sister's have said the same thing so.

[@veronicacooper4397]

Sad it's over with them

[@barbaracristina1508]

Vince is a narcissist!!

[@brandonebrye6016]

I feel like she's milking this fake ass moment, to promote her sorry album. This is all one big publicity stunt. 💯

[@Aliasss]

Her album was released months ago & this whole situation/show in no way centered around her album at all.

[@Cherries01]

brandone brye not to promote her album, but to promote this show. But it might help with the album sales too in some sort of way.

[@Aliasss]

Cherries01 - To promote THIS show ? This show is over already.

[@Cherries01]

Talisha C I guess u missed out when the show was still airing, all these drama was/is to help promote THIS show... And it surely did.

[@Aliasss]

Cherries01 - uh duh, as it should’ve been. That goes with every show. But it’s been over & there was still drama