I'm Selling My Commencal - Here's Why

Well, the day has officially come. When I purchased my Commencal just 1 year ago, I wasn't sure how long it would reside in the bike stable. I've learned it's a beast of a machine and it can handle anything. However, all things must come to an end. Tell me your thoughts and where to ride next in the comments below!
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[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Only used for road and gravel rides with the family. Never modified. Race stickers for appearance only.

[@jeiibeii05]

Don't Sell it, I'm from Phillipines, Can you sponsor this bike to me?

[@bhabin070]

I will pay you 400-500$. I know its too low but I cannot afford more than that.

[@neilvincentpena8742]

@@jeiibeii05 nice try

[@walterjr2429]

Such an underrated channel. Keep going!

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Sir, yes sir! 😎 and thank you 🙏🏼

[@nostr8ghtlinzs596]

So when i got my meta AM, 5'9" , the chart said Medium. I look at the reach, changed my order to a small. They were great with that. The small fits great to me. I got the little on Canyon, and after shipping and duties, add about another 25% to the cost.

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

It’s crazy to hear that someone 5’9” is on a small 😅 just like me on a large at over 6’3”. So glad Commencal is resolving that on their latest designs. Also want to note that Commencal has changed their size chart on the 2021+ Clash several times since it’s release - while they tried to help customers figure out what’s best for them. Originally they were even further off. And yeah, shipping and duties will vary based on location of course. For me in Italy, the VAT is included in the Canyon price of 2799€ and then only 50 bucks or so to ship.

[@nostr8ghtlinzs596]

@@GlobalTrailGuide good and good. For me, It came $730 extra to a young hero in the country! Commencal and Canyon have two different systems. Commencal has office/warehouse in BC, the other side of the country, so I only Paid $150 for shipping, and only federal tax. However for Canyon i had to pay federal tax, import duties and about $360 for shipping. Plus shipping fee Canyon charged. One day I do comparison on the buying experience.

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

@@nostr8ghtlinzs596 that’s a bummer for the Canyon products! Thanks for sharing your insights. It’s interesting to hear because in the US, Canyon will ship for a similar $150… then a possible state tax. I’d imagine your bike is being shipped to Canada from the same North American warehouse/s, but another $200 for shipping.

[@nostr8ghtlinzs596]

@@GlobalTrailGuide The shipped bike from Europe. I believe you are correct as that is the reason why it got so expensive. As for the bike it's self, She likes it. and to quote TFL "it's about the smiles per mile"

[@johnwicked4982]

How about the 5’4 height and not that long reach? Should i get the XS Meta HT? I tried the Giant hardtail and small size (15) is so perfect for me. Thanks in advance for any inputs.

[@wistyTw]

YT capra 3 MX or the COMMENCAL Meta SX race 2e hands? for enduro race and a bit bike park

[@michelenardo1221]

Love the video bro!! Glad I could help with the filming!!

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Couldn’t have done it without you! Thanks man!

[@renatojunior225]

Perfect job!! Thank you!

[@vuss2107]

Exactly why I chose a norco sight, chain stays grow on larger sizes. 6.3” tall the longer rear helps centre and balanced feel on the bike. Test rode XL TR and AM. Way way to long front centre to the same chain stay on all sizes. Too modular. My boy runs a small meta and it’s awesome, just us tall folk not the best imo

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Thanks for sharing your experience and insights - nice to know it wasn’t just me feeling this way. A good point that smaller / average riders may not notice as much.

[@andresfelipehernandezcabre4017]

para carreras de DH podría usar dual Crown 200mm ? o te parece que mullet es suficiente ?

[@jamlee344]

You're presentation is spot on and the sound and editing is top notch 👌. Looking forward to more on the Torque as I'm considering it as the next bike. Keep up the good work!

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Thanks Jamlee 🙏🏼

[@boogiedownbronx73]

yeah im 180 cm and always ride size L with Commencal and Giant I have to ride M.....their sizing does not make sense...

[@danielesavi1969]

Typical Italian ad: maniacally kept, always driven by an elderly retiree just to go to Sunday Mass (alternatively: to go play “briscola” at the bar)

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Precisely!

[@marcowu8529]

Hey! I know it’s been a year since you posted, but a question : I rode my last bike with a reach of 460 (torque 2018) and it felt amazing to me! And I’m 1,88m. Now considering to buy a Clash, sizing says L but the reach of 490 seems a bit long! Really thinking about getting a size M clash with a reach of 465 and the wheelbase is also longer than my last bike. Maybe someone can help me, best reagards !

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Sounds to me like an M might do the trick for you. I also wouldn’t be surprised if a clash redesign is coming within the next year, Commencal has been shortening all of their reaches ever since they went too long on the clash. So maybe the next gen clash will be shorter (if you can wait) - hopefully there’s a next gen, 27.5 bikes are falling off.

[@ErichVonCartmann]

Love the video and the details. Good job on your EWS Race! I have a Small Commencall Furious that I also mulleted. So glad I chose Small. Bike feels very balanced with 435mm Chainstay and 445mm reach. A 490 reach with a 435mm I have no doubt it feels unbalanced. I am Love'n my Furious and so glad I mulleted it. She rolls so much better through the Tech Sections now. BTW. I am using the same the same 27.5 Fox-40 Fork, I just bolted on a a 29er tire and set the Fork Length about 8mm longer. I have about 10mm of tire clearance between thr tire and brake archm. I measured the HTA and she is now at a super slack 62.5 Degrees.

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Thank you 🙏🏼 And yes, I can certainly believe that people of smaller stature will have a great experience with Commencals. They’re incredibly solid bikes. But with current geometry fundamentals in the industry, it appears other brands may be better suited for taller riders or this with a particular riding style. Glad you’re loving it! I was certainly a huge fan of my mulleted clash. And that’s correct, switching from 27.5 to 29 raises the front about 20mm / resulting in approx -1 degree HA change.

[@ProGaming-tc9jp]

I had such a hard time deciding between clash, meta SX and torque haha. I ended up buying a large meta SX frame and built it with Box3prime9 drivetrain. New Domain fork. And marzocchi bomber CR. Magura mt5 brakes. It’s such a good bike I think I made the right choice. I was worried about long chain stays but it feels great. Ur channel is very good keep making vids

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

I agree that you made an excellent choice. The SX looks like a pristine machine. Good to hear it’s riding well too! Thank you 🙏🏼

[@mr.send_it]

Hey pro gaming, I have a hard time deciding between a médium and large Meta SX, I'm 5'9 and always rode larger bikes. What Height are you to be great on your large ? Thanks mate

[@ChainBrothersMTB]

Careful w the Bomber CR- check and make sure it’s rated for the stress. Fox issued a statement for their older versions at least saying that their coils were not compatible with the stresses these frames can put on the shock.

[@carloscorona7337]

Hi, I'm 169cm I don't know whether to buy the Clash m or s, my arms aren't that long. my way of riding is mixed, I like to have agility and I like to try drops and speed

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Smack dab between sizes… I’d compare with the reach on your current bike and go from there. Maybe someone else that’s similar in size can chime in too. Of course, a smaller frame is more agile and playful feeling; while the larger frame would be more stable and planted. But once you get familiar with the bike, you probably wouldn’t notice anymore anyways

[@carloscorona7337]

@@GlobalTrailGuide I had a Clash 2019 M, but now it's more large like you say, some people of my lenght says that it's better M because it's more steady, but another people of my lenght says that S it's better S because it's more safe and comfortable, so, i don't know :/

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

@@carloscorona7337 really hard to say... only other thought is to make a post in the Commencal FB group and maybe someone will be local to you and will let you try the S or M

[@powderberms5728]

Where did you sell the bike? also what camera do you use?

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

I have not yet sold it, contact me on Instagram or Facebook if you’re interested. This video was primarily filmed with my friends Sony A7SIII.

[@msgesus4518]

Hmm if you are meant for the xl on the sizing charts maybe you should be on it. You say your over the back wheel, having the longer reach would negate that. I actually had to size up on the meta ht because the reach was too short on the medium, on the large it's 450 which is what I'd expect on the medium 🤯

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

I fall between L and XL on the clash (because of their questionable sizing tactics). But my primary point was that even if you make the reach longer, it will only exaggerate the super short chainstays… this isn’t as noticeable to riders who aren’t in the XL category. Commencal even recognized this problem they created and that’s why the Meta SX now has a shorter reach, but a longer chainstay than the clash.

[@yannick8286]

Love my Clash Race 2020, i’m 6FT and ride a Large and the bike is perfect for me, did the geometry changed for 2021 ?

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Yes, the geometry changed significantly. 2020 Large reach is 467mm, HA is 65. 2021 Large is 490mm and 64, respectively.

[@LECMTB]

I am considering the clash origin 2022 for my next bike, thanks for this information to consider.

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

No problem! Thanks for watching!

[@JIBBING_1980S]

hi ya.. i know you're about to sell the bike 😅 just need your advise im 185cm in height should i take M or L for the clash?

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Gosh, it’s so hard to help with sizing on this bike haha. But I was on a large and it was just a bit too small for my liking at 193cm. So I think you’ll be happy on it! If you have a bike currently, compare the reach numbers to help you decide

[@bluemind4225]

Thanks for all those informations and précision on the fact commencal is always ajusting their frames. I think they are on the good way. I have the 2019 Meta and it seems commencal is working on a New meta even if the 2021 have some modifications vs 2020 and previous. But maybe i will go for the propain tyee. Cheers from french alps

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

You’re welcome! I’m excited to see what the new Meta AM design will be. Propain Tyee is a great move as well, I considered those at one point as well. Any bike park recommendations for the French Alps? Planning a trip soon

[@bluemind4225]

@@GlobalTrailGuidemorzine les gets and chatel seems to be good spots. I have Never ride there because i live at chambery but you can go there you will enjoy for sure:)

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

@@bluemind4225 thank you!

[@TheRexPerkins]

I looked up the geo on the clash and the torque after I watched this and their fairly similar on a size large. 490 reach on both, 434 chain stay on clash 435 on torque and the wheelbase is 10mm longer on torque. The numbers aren’t very different. IMO I’d keep the clash. I don’t think the difference in the geo is worth the downgrading to the spec on your torque

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Sounds like you might be looking at the 27.5 Torque?? Based on the chainstay length you mentioned. Carbon Torque geo is also slightly different than AL Torque. My XL Torque 29 AL is 510 reach and 441 chainstay. So geometry is quite a bit different than my Clash, plus full 29er. Whereas L Clash is 490 reach and 434 chainstay (like you said), or XL at 520 and 434 respectively. Regardless of size, my Torque is quite different than both, wheel size differences aside.

[@TheRexPerkins]

@@GlobalTrailGuide thanks for clearing that up. Which do you like more? Do you really feel the torque is more balanced or a better bike in anyways?

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

@@TheRexPerkins no problem! I’ve only ridden my Torque for about 20 min so far, but I can already tell that it fits like a glove and I am definitely more centered on the bike. Climbing position is super comfortable too, that seat tube angle is STEEP. Still want to get some more time in on it though and then I’ll be releasing a video with my first ride thoughts

[@johnwicked4982]

5’4” here and confused if i get the Small size Meta HT or the XS?

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Hopefully someone with first hand experience can chime in for you. Personally though, I’d stick with the small to keep 27.5 f/r. Plus commencal’s size chart shows your height right in the middle of the small range (a good sign)

[@dailyentertainment7258]

How much is it??

[@EpicSwedishFika]

Dude I am also 1.93 but ride Commencal Meta XL with 35mm stem. It is all about minor things regarding your setup not the geometry. Just put some effort into it and maybe not use a 29 front wheel!

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Everyone has different riding styles and preferences, that’s why we should be happy there are so many options available to us 🤘🏼 originally I got the clash to try out long travel 27.5, quickly realizing it wasn’t for me. Mullet significantly improved the bike and it became a speed machine. 29 up front was the right move for me! But overall I started to find other things about the bike I didn’t like, so I moved on.

[@rodolforubio1824]

Hello bro great review, I want to buy the frame set of the clash and make it mullet , as u said on the video it's a bit long. I'm usually size large on my bikes I'm a owner of a cannondale jekyll 29 2021 ( no the new one the one thats look like pregnant;) any way Im 1,83 cm what size do u recomended. Thank man for share all this value info. See ya and ride save

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Hey man, thank you! Personally if I were to go mullet, I’d just get the Meta SX. Back when I mulleted my clash, the SX didn’t exist yet. But, if you want the Clash I’d stick with your usual size, large!

[@suchasreallife]

Got a clash origin bc of the price and I like the geo, if I had more bank I’d go Santa Cruz maybe Trek

[@ozioskar69]

Have u already sell it?

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

I have not yet sold it, contact me on Instagram or Facebook if you’re interested.

[@ozioskar69]

@@GlobalTrailGuide K thx

[@ChainBrothersMTB]

Sorry for your loss bro. Commencal > Canyon. Also- you should be on an XL. I’m shorter than you and it’s a perfect fit. The slightly unbalanced thing is real- you have to put more weight on the bars- they are aggressive. Can be a negative if your terrain isn’t super aggressive. For most people a balanced approach is better for sure so I get that. Let the downvotes flow lol.

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

As mentioned, the L is too short and the XL is too long. It’s a sizing problem. One that Commencal themselves recognized and has since corrected on all of their redesigns (shorter reaches and longer stays)

[@gyawalisushant3030]

Can I buy it .. oops I forgot I have no money😂😂😢

[@jeremy9467]

Short chainstays!!! Yah 🤟🏼 Will sell fast!

[@Dempsey222]

These videos won't be the same without the Clash.

[@herlongwilliam6558]

Average commencal poor

[@Dempsey222]

@@herlongwilliam6558 Commencal makes a great bike.

[@herlongwilliam6558]

@@Dempsey222 a great bike *for the money

[@jamesfediganmtb6239]

@@herlongwilliam6558 a great bike *regardless of money

[@rokas3935]

@@herlongwilliam6558 what bike do you ride?

[@lukelloyd7934]

Needed a lie down after watching those hands & arms waving round for 5 minutes.

[@Alvirell]

Me for 1k pesos

[@MichaelRodriguez-ge1tc]

Good morning sir im michael Rodriguez im Filipino no money buy bike im poor.

[@fbi-fipo1618]

i cant believe how overpriced is now

[@GlobalTrailGuide]

Wow, now up to 4300€ for the essential. Pretty steep for an aluminum SLX / Fox Performance build.

[@jeiibeii05]

Don't Sell it, I'm from Phillipines, Can you sponsor this bike to me?