I'm so confused 😕

[@stevegonzales527]

Most likely a safety feature and first world problem

[@luism8130]

Has nothing to do with safety. It’s just bad engineering, no other car does this.

[@FCM415]

@@luism8130Engineering? My ‘22 Benz does this also. It’s a safety feature. It’s a choice. It’s not some unknown secret engineering design that Toyota and Benz can’t discover lol. Basically, it shuts off when the doors are unlocked to protect from car theft. Everyone hates it. Probably overthought and for lawsuits. Not bad engineering though.

[@The4-D]

Don't understand the safety part if it's already locked and a lot of other cars shut off if you try to move them without the key with you after remote starting First world problem, yes

[@FCM415]

Basically, it’s a specific situation where a would be thief hears a car remote start and waits for the owner to get inside while the owner is also getting in. Also, while the car WOULD shut off seconds after a keyless car thief or child drives off, hazards can happen in that small window. Very specific and only Toyota and some Benzes are the only ones that I know of that has this feature. They must have gotten sued or are overthinking the danger to avoid being sued. Everyone hates it but there is a purpse I guess

[@The4-D]

@FCM415 I get it but on every car the door has to be locked before you remote start and you can only unlock it with the fob 😭 And with most of them if you don't press the start button it will shut off

[@punkchaz]

You can blame the Flipper for it. It is a verification system. The one thing I hate is remote start is tied to a subscription system.

[@The4-D]

Flipper? That little portable device thingy?

[@punkchaz]

@@The4-D Yes sir, the device can copy and mimic your key fob codes, your garage door code, act as a wireless keyboard, and send out a variety of signals. So to combat that some companies look for double signals or other ways of authorizations.

[@The4-D]

@punkchaz oh yeah I heard of that but if they mimic the keyfob signal then they could just start it back up with the flipper yeah?

[@punkchaz]

@@The4-D they could take off with your vehicle if your vehicle doesn't have rolling code. If it does, then they would have to do it right then and there during when the code is obtained. Which you would be around because you would in turn have to be using your key fob. So really, the reason your vehicle takes forever is it is authenticating, and it should have rolling code. It is a defense measure. Edit: I forgot to add it also authenticates vs a dcm which is to see if your subscription is valid to use remote start for Toyota.

[@The4-D]

@@punkchaz best explanation I've heard/read thank you very much

[@trinity3284]

The real pisser is that Lexus’ do not shut off when opened lol.

[@The4-D]

Really? I'll have to check that out

[@mackenzielenz8229]

That's wild. My Ram Pickup I just hit the button twice, it handles the rest. I can unlock, get in, and all I have to do is hit the stop/start button once to fully activate the truck and start driving. This start stop system on the Toyotas would drive me absolutely insane.

[@The4-D]

yes from what I see Toyota is the only one I've seen that does this then it takes sooo longggg

[@jeffinkoshy3222]

Mazda does the same thing, but it wont shut off until a door/trunk is open, so just pushing unlock will not shut it off, but the second it opens up, it shuts off

[@The4-D]

Haven't had a Mazda with remote start yet but I'll check it out when I do find one

[@mattk02]

Isn't that an anti-theft feature?

[@The4-D]

Well you have to lock it before remote starting and it's still locked after it starts Idk dawg I'm still confused

[@texasblaze1016]

No thats fucking stupid. Ill stick to my Honda

[@jameswann4327]

Bad programming. Not worth buying it.

[@The4-D]

Lol Idk about not worth buying but the programming is dumb