I'm STILL Shooting With The Canon 5dsr In 2023 - Here's Why

[@illfigureoutanamewhenimser4243]

I always come back to you when I'm about to do something stupid.

[@michaelddrapala7479]

Me too!! He is the official voice of reason

[@3Schneewittchen]

I mainly photograph weddings. Often also in combination with video, for which I use the Canon GX10 (4 K 50p). My two cameras are 5D III (35mm) and 5DSR (85mm), which I operate with flash throughout (except in churches) and use a flash bracket system for this. The cameras are pre-programmed for different scenarios (indoors, outdoors, sports) and even with an aperture of 1.4 (85), e.g. of the wedding ring, I have razor-sharp images (see my homepage). Both cameras are extremely fast, when my "R" is still looking for the right eye, I've already taken a few pictures with the dinosaurs. My R is allowed to work in the photo booth and I will stick with my DSLR's for the long haul. The image quality of the 5DSR is so fantastic and will probably never let me down, even in 2022 at the very front. I'm glad I'm not alone in my opinion 😄

[@heldercosta9514]

Exactly my experience, and I own an r5. To be honest I dont understand all this hype about eye detect, it is slower and way less precise than doing it with the old recompose. Have benn shooting exclusively milc for about 2 years and never was convinced about the camera, because of the eyepiece sensor and sleep behaviour of the camera, which seems to cause very frustation in the canon comunity forum in other users, it gets in the way for someone who's working on personal projects and wants the photos more than messing with the camera. As soon as I purchased my 1st and only rf lens, and faced again with another combersome "feature", I decided it is enough and time to upgrade my game and cameback to dslrs

[@harrygilliland5675]

I am still using my canon 5D mk3 does everything I need it to don't see any reason to change it was built as a workhorse still going strong.

[@RyanREAX]

No eye af = extra work

[@back40canoe]

@@RyanREAX not in my experience

[@RyanREAX]

@@back40canoe focus and recomposing is so 2015 lol, during weddings its so much easier to eye af, and edge to edge auto focus points.. no more 8 AF points lol

[@back40canoe]

@@RyanREAX weddings is my business and I don’t focus recompose. I’m not saying that eye AF is bad I’m just saying it won’t save me work.

[@RyanREAX]

@@back40canoe so you do center framing or manual focus lol? How do you focus at the edges of the frame when those old dslr cameras have clustered auto focus points more in the center?

[@WillFaulknerPhotography]

I just bought a mint condition 5Dsr based on your recommendation Scott. I’m very happy with the savings I’ve made. Thanks again.

[@resistenzainutile]

5D classic is a bomb. I have three of them.

[@johnhaynes9910]

Total commonsense and well done for saying it. :) It reminds me of an old carpenter I knew, I once asked him why he was making joints by hand when there were electic tools and jigs available, his reply was simple; "I make money by using tools not by buying them."

[@ttblade]

After carrying my 5D III and a full bag of lenses on many long hikes I bought into Fuji's mirrorless system. My Fuji couldn't be more different from my Canon and it certainly produces excellent quality at half the weight. But, I'm planning an Iceland trip and taking my 5D, in fact I've just bought a 16-35 F2.8 to add to my bag for the trip. There is just something about my 5D III that reminds me of my years of film photography and why I fell in love with photography in the first place. The way the 5D feels and the tones it produces (particularly skin tones) are perfect, even if it crushes my spine.

[@jonasweiss5817]

This is about the 5DSR.

[@andrewdoeshair]

I love it! I was very happily using a 5Diii for portraiture and I got the stupid upgrade bug when I decided to start dabbling with making KZbin videos. Initially I bought a Rebel SL2 for the flippy screen but ultimately didn’t like carrying two cameras- SL2 for KZbin videos and 5Diii for portraits. So I got into the EOS RP, then EOS R, which both left me wanting because they lacked the tactile feel and snappy response of the 5D series, so I then went on to an R6. Now, thousands of dollars later, I mostly use my iPhone for KZbin videos and I miss my 5D 😂 mostly because I hate the electronic viewfinder. But basically I wish I’d listen to this kind of advice all along. I guess I had to learn the hard way

[@alexanderow1268]

I having been using my 5DSR since 2017 and counting, :)

[@jealius4340]

this vid will from here on out be my Gear Acquisition Syndrom medicin! tx!

[@martingomez7502]

This is a great video. I was a pro for 15 years and I used the 5Ds. When I moved to teaching at the end of my career I had students who had more expensive kit than I ever owned of would buy. You are right the Canon DSLRs last a lifetime.

[@joshuaconti989]

I love your insights here. While I'm not a Canon shooter, I used to sell cameras and the 5DS/SR were some of the most criminally underrated cameras out there. I absolutely think this is one of Canon's best DSLRs ever made. Personally I'm still using a Nikon D610 for alot of my day to day work - it's not the same as the SR but its about the same principles that you mention. Fantastic video!

[@nathanielcashjr.732]

Finally, someone who speaks from a practical perspective.

[@kenbot77]

Awesome to hear someone speak honestly about the LACK of needing to upgrade just because everyone 'else' is caught up in the hype of mirrorless 'just for the sake of it'. 10/10 !

[@Tren_is_okay]

More people need your mindset. Thanks for sharing hope it keeps others in check.

[@meibing4912]

Great advice. Photography for a living is about treating it as a business. No need to ramp up the fixed costs. The 5DSR is btw maybe the most underrated Canon camera ever. (I did go mirrorless myself but it proved too early)

[@nickfindsgold9788]

Photography gear is very similar to my cycling habit, I did have an "equipment phase" but I have ditched it all and now restore beautiful vintage steel pieces of art that I started with back in the early 80's ... no more fear of missing out for me

[@mikafoxx2717]

I think it's a universal cycle. Audio, photography, any hobby even. You first have fun, then seek out features, then chase the features.. and if you're lucky, you'll go back to just having fun and using what you have and what works.

[@williamdavid4617]

I'm so agree with you! With my wife we work in our photo studio with Canon 5dsr and 3 tilt/shift lenses: 4/40 IF TS Superrotator, 2,8/80 TS Superrotator and Macro 4/120 TS Superrotator. This combo allows us to photograph packshot and photos of curtains and sheers, and our customers are very satisfied! This allows us to offer excellent value for money.

[@TinHouseStudioUK]

yeah the value for money atm on these bodies is insane.

[@christhompsonphotography6783]

I appreciate that you mentioned your accountant in almost all of the videos you produce.

[@arkstudios1]

With you all the way, I use Hasselblad with leaf and Canon 5DSR, sold my Hasselblad, purchased new studio flash units as needed updating, and now just using the Canon 5DSR, great camera.

[@dreadnoughtphotowerkz]

It is currently 2024 and I still use my Canon 5dsr strictly for Studio use. I use my Canon R3 specifically for use with sports so I can understand what you're saying. And for one of my backup cameras I still use my Canon 5D Mark IV and I strictly use it for Studio use only. So I understand exactly what you're saying.

[@danieltaylor1522]

My 5Ds remains my primary stills camera. 8 years later it stands toe-to-toe with anything out there in 35mm full frame format in terms of image quality. The high ISO complaints were never valid, it's excellent to 3200 and very good at 6400 and 12800. The DR complaints were somewhat valid in that other cameras had more base ISO DR. But it has good base ISO DR and with today's RAW processors you can easily get 14ev out of it via noise reduction (it measures 12.4ev, out of camera, at DxO). It's robust and reliable with a great AF system. It just works, delivering incredible detail in large prints. I complimented it with an R6 for those times when I might want insane shooting speed or extreme low light performance (i.e. stacked astro; 4k under a full moon). But I still often grab the 5Ds for sports as the AF system is more than up to the task and while 5 fps might sound slow, it's more than enough for most situations. It's a brilliant camera even in 2023.

[@taffyapples]

Gosh how good is your summary on "your" reasons for a chosen setup! thanks for sharing, wish I had discovered your channel earlier!!

[@MrCochise71]

Great vid. Love my 5ds! Love it so much just recently bought another one. One of canons best til this day. And it's a beast!

[@seralegre]

about mirrorless, also when you are classical music photographer 😂😂 is a blessing the silent mode

[@blueoceansdeep]

I am blessed to have experienced a supportive local camera & printing shop. They would recommend amazing cameras and lens for me to rent. When it was time to upgrade from a canon rebel t6, randomly a 5ds became available at just $1250 rarely used. This was the happiest moment for me as a photographer. Have been grateful for the 5ds ever since. I call her big baby and the t6 lil baby 🥹

[@brianbeattyphotography]

Such a great message, and glad you're enjoying the 5DSR still! As primarily a landscape photographer/youtuber, I see little need to add a much more expensive camera while the images I get currently from the 5DSR are awesome. I was able to pick one up second had with just 3k shutter actuations a few years ago for $1100. When I get tempted by shinier, newer, bigger/medium format alternatives, I look at the price difference and keep on shooting with what is working! Like you said, no sense parting at a loss and shelling out a ton of cash for a 0.5% improvement.

[@alnoormeralli]

Great advise! I moved to mirrorless this year. Rationale was it made my job easier capturing moving subjects - fashion, runway, events. Still don’t like EVFs. Coincidentally the first job I got offered after taking possession was a poetry performance. The client specifically requested camera with silent shutter. My D850 would not have cut it and I would have passed the job. So was meant to be.

[@mikkirurk1]

This video has more sense then half of all YT photography related videos combined.

[@DaveMovold]

I too pick one up when B&H had their sale. I use it for my landsape photos, WOW. Goes with my MK4.

[@virajchavan9490]

Logical thinking,Similar thoughts, still usinng 5DSR for shooting products and architectures. Nice message for viewers.

[@kandooi]

As always...direct to the point...honest feedback on tech....we can really see the difference ...your focus is on work / photography...not gimmick...thanks!

[@cityzenkane108]

So refreshing to hear a sensible point of view. There is in my opinion nothing like shooting through a ground glass screen. People are obsessed with tech. I'm about to upgrade to a 5DSR after many happy years with my 5D MK2 and my RZ6x7. In my day job I shoot with Arri Alexa's and Sony Venice which thank goodness kit is supplied by the facilities and production companies. Coldplay in Jordan here on YT is a good example of my work. Keep up the great work.

[@michaeltaylor7841]

Refreshing honesty based on experience. My Canon 5Ds cameras are superb and great lenses. Workhorses. Also shoot personal work on them. Used are now great value.

[@theraven6836]

I bought the 5DSR a year ago when canon offered its ridiculous fire sale on them. Wasn’t actually looking for a new DSLR as my 6D was just fine, but at that price I thought it well worth the upgrade to 50mpx. The interesting thing is that it is actually my newest camera by model year. I shoot this and a Leica M9M that was introduced in 2012 and am happy with both as they serve completely different purposes. Oh, I sold the 6D shortly thereafter too.

[@davidburton2294]

I'm really enjoying watching all your videos. At first I sat memorized by the moire on your beard. Love the inside of the Coke bottle shot! Greetings from Sydney Oz!

[@benbiacchi5785]

I love your point of view, im going into food photography with my "old" 5ds and im getting GRATE SHOTS... tks for your confirmations!

[@trippymchippy8586]

True words. I've been a working photographer for 12 years. I still have a 550D in my bag lol. I recently upgraded my 5D mk 3 and chose the EOS R. I've quit wedding photography, I don't do sports, I don't need the uber focussing of the R5 or R6. I think it's fair to say we have reached a place where you can get quality images from virtually all cameras. The challenge is how you approach taking and editing photos.

[@acmdv]

Back in 2012 I shot all my final year Photography degree work with a 450D & 550D.

[@SimonAckerman]

Why did you decide to quit wedding photography?

[@stewartmoore]

Totally agree with you on all points and I'm still using my Canon 5Ds

[@jacobh5817]

I’ve used 1D’s and 5D’s in different versions throughout almost two decades and they’re brilliant. I’ve used them next to my Hasselblad. When it was time to replace, I moved to Fujifilm (both X and GFX) but that was a bit of a mistake. I’m now on Nikon’s Z system and happy as ever. Durability and quality of lenses are critical factors when selecting a camera for professional use… Great vid, Scott. Very sound advice. It’s the difference between a gadget and a tool…

[@Being_Joe]

Interested in why you like the Z series over X / GFX? I never used Z or GFX, but I liked the X series.

[@jacobh5817]

@@Being_Joe We’ve had about 6 X and 3 GFX cameras with a total of 14 lenses in our studio over a period of 6 years. We had many reliability issues with both cameras and lenses, up to the point of losing shots. Next to that, the eye-AF is pretty much useless. It erratically jumps from one to the other eye (in certain positions) and it often front-focuses. I’ve read that the X-H2S is supposed to be better, but I haven’t tested that. We do fashion and beauty photography for international magazines and nowadays many require at least 7 or 8,000 pixels on the long end. That rules out the X cameras. Finally, our tech-editors disliked the RAF-files. It’s extra effort to edit correctly and get rid of the greenish skintones and magenta cast in shadows (depending circumstances). With the Z7II and Z9 you can tell that Nikon has a lot of experience with professionally used cameras. Solid, robust, fast and the NEF-files are very easy to edit. On top of that, the Z-lenses are fantastic. Even the moderatly priced 1.8 primes. Having said that, I still have an X-Pro2 with two primes for some personal work…

[@Being_Joe]

@@jacobh5817 Good feedback. I feel all cameras made in the past ten years produce good quality depending on what you need. I like the RAF files but I use complicated raw processors to process the files. Even Nikon I find to get the best results you need to use NX Studio. The Z series had so many criticisms early on I was worried for the future of Nikon. I don't do any paid work anymore so I just shoot my own work with a D750, F100, and M3 with the M3 being my most used (I went backwards tech wise).

[@jacobh5817]

@@Being_Joe We use Capture One for tethering and post processing combined with PS or Affinity Photo when needed.

[@eagleeyephoto8715]

@@jacobh5817 I just did oposite and went back to GFX100 from Nikon Z.Found Nikon as poor performer and with the lens selection, quality and output not at what Nikon used to be.Talking about the post processing, the Nikon files were for product photography at border of unusable (vivid colors due to WB shift). All in all went back to Fujifilm, and I do agree on handling RAF files due to their size.

[@ostettivictor]

I am still using a D300 as a photojournalist, just cause i enjoy, and enjoy the warmth on the files. No other camera makes me enjoy shoot more, and have the controls i need. I used to have a D3 as well, but i sell it because its too big.

[@shawndonnelly862]

Thanks for your comments on the 5dsr. I need to do some copy work and was cringing thinking about purchasing an R5 for the occasional special purpose where I need higher resolution. The R3 is much more useful for most of my needs but the resolution is not adequate for many of the things that the 5dsr is designed for. I had not even considered 5dsr until you discussed it in your video. Your comments about the 5dsr saved me a lot of money as I was able to get one new from B&H for $1,500 USD! Your videos are very useful, thank you.

[@photohomie]

I agree with you, the 5DSR does everything you need, no need to upgrade.

[@livefirecook1346]

Agree completely! I'm currently using D850s as my camera and I don't see myself switching for quite awhile. I agree on EVFs as well, they make me feel like I'm watching a video of myself taking a photo. All the display options can get really distracting as well, I want to focus on composition not a firehose of data.

[@omniart5714]

850 is amazing

[@winfcad]

Colors in this video is clean and gorgeous!

[@beatrice86]

Thank you very much for being honest and content explaining why you stick with older model and being fine with working with what you got and that your confident enough to get in return what you need. Instead of wasting money on new insane cameras/lens etc. In general I always worked with older models and worried about what other photographers thought about my old dslr/ EOS models. Now I don’t care what people think because I know how to use it to my advantage to get a sick clean shot while being within my budget.

[@krisceuppens5273]

I love the samples you shared here, they look great!

[@jacobsamuel5444]

I bought two of dis Canon 5DS/5DSR brand new just last week here in Nigeria, I never found a camera that doesn as well for produc especially in day studio portrait. Super clear, sharp.a revolution in resolution and the "limitations" of dis camera are no-issues, one of day best DSLR camera in canon line-up some people need the letest and greatest but I'm happier finding deals like dis and spending my money💰on premium lenses.

[@nickturpin4288]

OMG, The 5DSR is stunning and you can get them new still for £1200 ish. Its like an industry secret. I can’t believe you can still get that 50mp goodness for that money. I use it for Architecture and it just works. I really like your attitude.

[@robertboyer5926]

It is an industry secret. I bought 1 when new, another when the price dropped through the floor right after the 5Div came out, and a 5Ds (my others are 5DsR's) just as a brand new backup because I saw it BRAND NEW on sale for $900 last year. These cameras are fantastic, especially for those the prefer OVF's (honestly working in bright light or even in low light in the studio EVF's are counter productive for me as they CONSTANTLY cause my pupil to adjust dramatically which results in extreme eye fatigue when working all day. Oh, and I just like them better. I have "fast cameras" and I have slow cameras (medium format) the 5Ds is plenty fast for what I shoot, actually my slow cameras are as well but I typically use my "fast cameras" - the canon's when shooting hand held and my slow cameras mounted on some form of camera support...

[@kronkite1530]

Where can a new one be sourced for £1200? Asking as, having scoured the web for seemingly diminishing supplies I bought a nest mint sh one for £1500.

[@robertboyer5926]

@@kronkite1530 I've not looked today but I think B+H had new in stock this month if I recall. Some of the best deals to be had also seem to be on the US canon refurb site (which seem to be brand new ones w/ warrantee ) Also I see non-US models (gray market) deals on Amazon often but they are sporadic at this point.

[@kronkite1530]

@@robertboyer5926 Ah, that probably explains it as I am in the UK. Thanks…

[@omniart5714]

I still use 7D for journalist work... And i think its awesome... I know people who still use MkII and MkIII 5D

[@urbanart7325]

Looking for a set of two lenses for my cannon 5 D that will cover the entire range and are inexpensive. I need AF lenses and I do not want to keep changing lenses

[@Watcheyes]

I think I found my home, I'm using a Sony a7s (mark 1) and I really like it, neat menu system without to much settings, straight forward. I really like the picture and 1080p is what you only need for youtube. Maybe I add an atomos later to record 4k if I want some more crop functionality. Thank you for this video, got me thinking!

[@roudyf]

I was debating wether to get one or not…after this video I’m definitely getting the 5DS.. Thank you ☺️

[@dance2jam]

Love your perspective. Agree with your thought process on what works for you professionally. No issues with it. I'm a baby amateur having shot for 5 years now. For me, one of the most important things you mentioned is upgrade because it meets needs, not wants. For me, the jump to mirrorless happened in Jan. 2022 because I shoot Action (dance at events), sports, and wildlife. I needed silent blackout free shooting, high frame rates, and higher resolution. The added IBIS, AI - subject detect eye autofocus, longer battery life, WYSIWYG EVF and the addition of pre-capture have not only given me more confidence that I'll capture better images, but improve my enjoyment of shooting. And so, I would personally say, that upgrade for one of two reasons - you do not need to - if a newer camera has tools that save you time, energy or effort - because time is money, or/and it brings you more joy in shooting.

[@box0xB9]

Such an honest conversation … great !

[@Eagle1349]

I agree with your sentiments, I have been a Photographer for three decades . I purchased solid 1D series bodies, using them until the wheels fall off. Only at that point I upgrade to a new system . I can’t justified buying the newest and greatest camera body just because it is the new pretty girl !

[@olafzijnbuis]

Nice video! I once took a picture of some electrical switchgear with a Canon 550D with the 17-85 cheap zoom lens. Has it printed at 40 x 60 cm and put it on the wall. When I tell people that it is so incredibly sharp because I rented a Hasselblad body with a prime lens, they all see the fantastic quality. When I tell them it came from a 550D with the 17-85 mm zoom, all they see how fuzzy it is and all the aberrations. It was taken with F8 from a tripod in RAW and carefully "developed". Even with this modest equipment, the end result is astonishingly good compared with my Asahi Pentax Spotmatic II.

[@marcelkaiser5021]

I still use mine. It’s 7 years old and it’s still my work horse. And I have no intention to “upgrade” anytime soon.

[@Matthew_Tyler]

I love this video. You’re honest to the point, and you’ve convinced me to buy one of these ancient beasts. I want to do landscape photography and I’ve been looking for a system on a budget or a while. I currently have my eye on a 5dsr😂

[@tipptoggy]

Hear hear Scott. As a fun side-hobby I’m part of the Facebook Six Megapixel club, I’ve recently submitted some macro test shots taken with a Fuji S1 Pro (from 2000), it’s a 3 megapixel camera, the quality is outstanding when viewed on the web ( and on various hand held devices), because most of the web delivers at 72DPI. For paid work I use slightly more modern Nikon/Fuji DSLRS, I don’t need anything else as I shoot for print, and most pictures are laid out at A5, A6 or smaller. Some newspapers only require images at 200 DPI. Yes I could pixel peep on a big screen and get all worried about a 500% zoom that is a bit blurry, but I know it is invisible when the client runs off thousands of copies in the print works, and next week it will probably be wrapping fish and chips.

[@jcccheung]

that way madness lies... brilliant.

[@johnvogh5445]

Great video, I appreciate and respect your outlook on being thrifty, especially in our fast food, “I want it now and I want it my way,” world where it seems like everyone wants the latest and greatest no matter the cost. I purchased a used 5d mark ii a couple years ago and I really enjoy it.

[@HollyRoa11]

Switching to mirrorless is a lot more than just the lack of a mirror sound, but if you mainly shoot things that aren’t alive in the studio it’s true you don’t need it. If you shoot people, animals, action, etc the speed and sophistication of the AF system and the increase in burst rate you can get along with other tech can make a big difference in how your shoot and how many shots you keep.

[@gregshawphotography8828]

I'm a portrait photographer, my clients are not models. I started my business on a Canon 60D, then a Canon 7D, then an EOS R where I've been since 2018 The only difference in my workflow since moving from a DSLR is not focus and recomposing. I absolutely loved my DSLR's and I absolutely love my R. I shoot the same amount of shots of my clients on my R as I did on the DSLR. Burst rate doesn't work for me. My portrait sessions don't rely on speed.

[@HollyRoa11]

@@gregshawphotography8828 it definitely depends on what you do. Many flashes can’t keep up with the burst speeds modern mirrorless cameras are capable of anyway, for people who shoot in the studio with strobes primarily. Working with animals outdoors, I’ve found that animal eye autofocus paired with capable tracking and fast bursts gives more frames to choose from with action shots than I could get with my DSLR. In general, I feel the AF performance, especially eye AF, makes a big difference in working with moving subjects even at a slower pace in a studio by making nailing focus one less thing to think about while working. I didn’t work much with flagship DSLRS that were intended for fast action but I think the price point of say a 1DX line camera vs what I’m shooting with now, a Sony A7R IIIa, makes incredible performance more accessible for those whose work can benefit. Not to mention the size - top end DSLRs are massive. Personally I much prefer the feel of a small mirrorless like a Sony or Fuji, though I know people with hands bigger than mine tend to like a little more grip. In any case, there’s definitely a case for not spending excessively on gear when what you’ve got is serving you just fine, but I feel there was an oversimplification of the benefits of mirrorless technology.

[@frostybe3r]

@@gregshawphotography8828 He said sports, animals and action…

[@occy1506]

I have absolutlely the same opinion... 5drs is an amazing camera!

[@CoffeeandPhotographyTalk]

EXCELLENT POINT: "I won't make anymore money than I already do..." with buying a huge amount of new kit. I love the view through glass as well, but I think we are in the minority today sadly. Great vid!

[@3obardThawn3]

Love the way you think. Same here...

[@2MinuteReview]

2:40 I gotta stop ya right there, you are right, you are are absolutely right, HOWEVER, I've seen a trend amongst people who don't understand how a business should run, and this includes people running businesses, they think that when they buy a new piece of equipment that they need to suddenly up their prices to reflect the cost of that equipment. As you pointed out this is absolutely not how a business should be run. its beliefs like this that make even the most mundane services cost a fortune. ok I gotta finish the video now.

[@LarryManiccia]

Well said. The difference between cameras today is getting smaller and smalller for most applications. And as you noted unless you compare things side by side you couldn't tell the difference in most cases.

[@rendyonline]

We have similar sentiments but there was ONE main reason for getting into the R system for me -- it was the RF 28-70 f/2.0. There are times my assignments requires me to be quick and having this has ease the need of changing primes to shoot wide open. Otherwise, yes, any cameras you pick up today works and will earn you your money.

[@MesaStudioFL]

This was the first video I saw from Scott and it saved me from making some bad gear related decisions. Spoiler, I kept my 5DSR and was motivated to do what I should have been doing months ago. For anyone who reads this, out of the noise that is youtube, Scott is one of the only ones that provides truth and substance in this industry.

[@AlKnightbird432]

Great video. Im a wildlife and bird photographer. The 5DSR is simply the best Canon has produced, even today. That being said, i also have a R5. If you get the shot, the 5DSR always wins. But, that is difficult with subjects that are very close with shallow depth of field, example using my primary 300 2.8 ii. The R5 wins here by getting more in focus eyes. But once you open up the distance the 5DSR shines. Im blessed to have both these camera's to work with. And yes, both bodies handle the 2X iii like butter with the 300mm.

[@sugarology]

I have a 5DsR and a 5Ds, and a 5d MkIII as my backup. Love the 5Ds! have been tempted to upgrade and then I look at the images I get and just stick with what works. So glad you have the sense not to be tempted by the newest tech, the whole point is the result you get!

[@sunlbx]

@@sugarologydo you prefer 5ds to 5dsr? if so, why?

[@livvylatham9584]

@@sunlbx I use both almost equally. I tend to take the 5Ds out for landscape, and use the 5Dsr in my studio. No particular reason other than i keep each set up for those things (the 5Ds lives in my camera bag with my landscape and macro lenses). I dont really see a huge difference in the raw files from each. But I also don't photograph things that would have a big moire problem.

[@livvylatham9584]

@@sunlbx (I changed my youtube handle, this is the same peson as Sugarology)

[@sunlbx]

@@livvylatham9584 the reason I'm asking is that I shoot street photo and landscapes on 5DSr, and I've seen moire a few times in YEARS. What I do notice, however, is that 5DSr gives out more acutance at the edges which helps the edges survive the in-camera denoise algorithms better. Thanks to that, iso 3200 jpegs on 5DSr are as usable as 5DS at 1600. The less acute edges of 5DS give in more easily to this rather crude in-camera denoise algorithm, and 5DSr takes higher ISO before small detail is really mushy. The in-camera sharpening on 5DS can't compensate for that, because the detail is lost to the NR before sharpening is applied.

[@slackleashdogtraining3598]

G_d bless you!: I’m still using (buying new batt’s for) a 5Dsr (high resolution) and a 5D III (for low light, availeble light) and just retired a 1Ds II (for clinical photography). I’m inundated (as are we all) with SO much INNOVATION!! But I just reviewed my work and have been wondering what do I have to upgrade to?!!? Hearing you, I can just pause and be happy with the full kit of DSLR Lenses. (Gawd I’ve just now rounded out the bag of great glass). I don’t want to expense out the whole gang in R type lenses. I used the 1Ds II with it’s robust toughness to go to the middle east photojournalism. I wish those exposures had more resolution now for cropping and post production tweaks. I would consider another super resolution camera in the near future but I can’t afford TWO SETS OF LENSES so I’ll probably stay DSLR. My video is done on video equipment and isn’t a main thrust for me.

[@leehargreaves7473]

I love watching your channel, to reassure me that I just don't need to "upgrade" just because DXO says I need more dynamic range. Most cameras got "good enough" about 8 years ago. Canon make, and have made, some of the most underrated cameras (as well as many well-received models of course). £300 gets you an immaculate 6D, £1000 gets you an immaculate 5DSR ... and so on. I haven't met many club photographers that are "better" than a Canon 6D. If you can't get a great shot with a £300 6D then the problem is probably you, not the lack of pixels. The way I look at it is, the 6D is light years better than the original 5D (I've owned them both) .... and yet the 5D was taking most of the award-winning images back in the mid 2000s. Great cameras don't become bad cameras. The 5DSR capability was science-fiction in recent memory. 50Mp, weather-sealed, proven 5D rugged-build, Canon lens system...... available for a grand??!!!!!!! I mean come on.

[@Bonksticker]

Great to see,someone focus on making the picture,instead of buying new kits all the time and talk about some specs. Still happy with my 2 5DII and DIII ,and never swap the lens,so you avoid dust on the inside.

[@LesMachinesNoires]

I also use 5DSR from 2015, the only reason I would upgrade would be a new AF and higher ISO. That's it, no need to change anything else.

[@industryrule-4080]

The business advice here is priceless.

[@tcphoto]

Sound advice, I got tired of carrying two 1Series bodies, lenses and MBP through airports and decided to sell the 1Ds3 and 1Dx and replace them with two 5D4 cameras. I'm sure that mirrorless is a great system but I specialize in Food, Product and Lifestyle images. The cameras spend 90% of their time on a tripod so ML has little to no advantage for what I shoot.

[@mikkirurk1]

Thank you for supporting Ukraine in our struggle. Слава Україні!

[@Arshandays]

Very good points and love your mindset on buying items

[@andreawyatt3059]

I remember my first SLR camera a Zenith and i bought a Minolta 7000, with autofocus, i miss the days when a camera was just a camera. You need a degree to understand half the features on new cameras. I have a 5ds and 5d mkiv and very happy with them as i don't create videos.

[@seanhudgins8969]

Such a refreshing message! Thanks for posting!

[@TinHouseStudioUK]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@SpikeDiegel]

I have been shooting with a 5DS for over a year for wildlife work and I can keep a lot of detail after I crop vs my 5D Mark III

[@amrokas]

What a briliant very detailed and objective video.

[@6bProductions]

I'm with you. I'm all viewfinder myself - I just want to feel something normal.

[@Fifthimagez]

Excellent video!! hands-down my favorite video

[@smartdoctorphysicist3095]

Hi thank you very much I will follow what you have said, thank you again.

[@avsthomas]

I take photos as a hobby but my pictures are versatile. From Family, some portrait shots, Wildlife/ Zoos, Macro etc. 2 years ago I found a gray market Canon 5DS by accident for 980 Euros from the UK, I couldn't resist. Last year I bought a used Canon 1DX with 200k resolutions for 700 euros as part of a Christmas sale. This combo gives me everything I could ever need for my photography. If I want to go extra small and light on the go, I still have a cute Canon Eos RP with the 16mm 2.8, 35mm 1.8, 85mm 2.0 and the 100-400 aperture 5.6-8- no more Gas to buy other, new or more expensive things in the next few years.

[@sauravbasu8805]

What is your comparison of that RP and 5dsr in terms of image quality in normal day to day pics of family and friends?

[@avsthomas]

@@sauravbasu8805 For “normal everyday life” I usually prefer the Eos RP. It's smaller and lighter and easier to take with you. You can see the exposure beforehand. The 26 MP is absolutely sufficient and the high iso performance is slightly better (but if the 5DS' images are scaled down to 25 MP, then you won't see much difference). I use the 5DS more for wildlife and landscape applications. Instead of using a very large and heavy lens, I solve the problem with the range with more resolution. In general, I think the colors and image quality of the 5DS are a little better, and a lot better when cropping. When it comes to absolute image quality, the 5DS has an advantage. However, everyone has to decide for themselves whether this is necessary and necessary for them. I'm happy to have both, if I could only have one of the two cameras, it would be the Eos RP - also because the new Eos R lenses only work for that, there are some good options there and the system is more up-to-date.

[@alexramos786]

I have Canon R mirrorless and 5DSR but I love 5DSR the RAW shot is better,

[@lsamoa]

So true. When you have a good workhorse that's reliable, good quality, and does everything you need, then why "upgrade"? And that applies to every type of tools in life, from cast iron skillets to mobilephones.

[@Sandroider]

I still use my 50D and it works!

[@aarongipperich7915]

The message is spot on: only upgrade if a new camera gives you something you need. Mirrorless certainly offers some newer tech that will be a need for some, and pointless for others (like the author's example). Buy the tool that does the job and run it into the ground.

[@1nkd]

Also on x2 5dsRs for architecture! Backup barely used... Still on the 1st copy from release @ over 200k shots - origional mirror box. Dropped on hard surfaces / covered in mud when used for some action photography shots... still goes hard.

[@kennypringle4580]

I’m still shooting with Nikon d810 and d500 cameras. I have no plans to sell them to buy mirrorless camera’s, although I wish my cameras were quieter for my weddings and corporate events.

[@TheRg191]

I switched to the GFX 100 from the 5Ds. The real push came when the main board in one of my 5Ds’s packed in followed by an unresolvable issue with a 70-200 and a rear element and board contact communication error on my original 24-70 all within 6 months. The parts for the 24-70 were like hens teeth by this point and extortionately expensive - I was told by my service agent that canon are now stopping support for most out of production DSLRs and EF lenses, parts which remain in stock for older products are all that remain, no more will be produced in favour of production line re tooling for RF products. Once spares run out- that’s it. At the time of buying the GFX there was no true successor to the 5DSr as you put it- for commercial flash photography they don’t make a better camera. The bonuses that came with the GFX system like built in focus bracketing, native 16 bit colour depth and greater dynamic range. Plus nice to haves like focus control in capture one to almost the same degree as phase backs and powered USB C tethering /charging all tipped the balance in the upgrade process. I picked up most of my Fuji kit second hand one of the GFX 100 bodies had ~2500 shutter actuations and was £4000 with 4 batteries. A damn site better than the £10,000 RRP. I hope your 5Ds & 5DSr bodies continue to put the hard graft in, might be worth a good look at alternatives before an issue forces your hand and a massive chunk of unplanned investment- speaking from experience.

[@davegroves1841]

Thanks Scott. Love ya work. I'm 15 years in the commercial photography business. I love my daily ... a 1DS MK iii, my 5D MK ii backup was just mothballed for a 5DS-R (I've only put 5 shots on it) ... spankers from the US for AUD $2400 landed (Thanks for your tip). Bargain. Like you, nothing to upgrade to that beats what I have. Keep up the vids ... love hearing your thoughts.

[@mrz1342]

Hi, I agree with you for all reasons you mentioned as I keep my 5dsr with 100f2.8 beside all my mirrorless and medium format cameras I have, because this sensor is phenomenal I believe for resolution, dynamic range, colours, and highest quality, BUT I cannot deny the lack of touch screen, electronic view finder to see what I take, and speed! I wish Canon put this sensor to the new coming R1 to have all in one :) thank you

[@RenegadeADV]

This is something I wrestle with, I am shooting with my 5D MKIII and it is getting kind of tired, starting to get some spots in the lens and so on. The New R5 looks so appealing, but at the same time just upgrading to a new lens and sticking with the 5D is appealing as well. Although the downside being I cannot shoot 4k on it

[@StunnafulPhotography]

I had a Canon 7D and upgraded to the Canon R6 cuz I needed a faster auto focus system, silent shutter for events and a dual card slot for image/video insurance. 📸👍🏽 Image quality are just about the same, but video the R6 is a MAJOR improvement from the Canon 7D and my clients love the high quality 4K footage from it. So definitely money we’ll spent to help enhance my work flow. 💯 Great video! 👍🏽

[@FireImageFM1]

Awesome camera, you have great review

[@MrMick560]

Great video, love the honesty and would also love to know what the 1970s lens is you mention behind you.

[@stevensantana8049]

I have 2 5Ds and 1 5Dsr absolutely great cameras

[@robertboyer5926]

I have the reverse... 2x5DsR's and 1x5Ds

[@stevensantana8049]

@@robertboyer5926 I'm working on getting 2 5Dsr soon but there are great Cameras