I'm Worried About Mavuika...

[@puppetmasterpro3421]

gotta love hoyo for making a problem that isnt there and demanding you to fix it by spending even more money

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

I honestly dont know if that was their entire idea with this, lore wise this is actually really accurate to how she functions in the story so I feel like its possible this was intended to be a cool way to show that.

[@Kryo_GTS]

They've been doing this for a while tho... A few of the Fontaine characters demanded their C1 to fix issues with their C0 kits.

[@Hakarisdomain]

@@Kryo_GTSthey’re all playable at c0, using mavuika without premium natlan supports is going to feel a million times worse

[@grantdavid2655]

@Kryo_GTS they purposefully pigeonhole most DPS characters now and the C1 unchains them in some way.

[@starmochi9692]

EA games moment.

[@danielendless]

This is why leaks are important. We already knew she needed Natlan characters by the time Xilonen was running. Without leaks you're left in the dark where Hoyo can extort your wallet

[@ericx6969]

live stream said natlan energy or normal attacks proc her ultimate

[@GustavoSilvaBM666]

@@ericx6969 Normal attacks recharge Mavuika's energy VERY slowly, this option shouldn't even exist because the way it was implemented is a big joke

[@foreverzero1]

@@ericx6969 sure normal attacks from non natlan characters will work but not really, because it will take too much time.. Atleast 1 natlan character specifically xilonen is a must.

[@noboundariesburnhws]

As someone who has every natlan character C0R1, this still pisses me off. The best part of Genshin is being able to make different teams with the elemental reaction system. My Raiden, nahida,Furina, and Venti have been on so many different teams, it’s insane. Restrictive characters completely negate that

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Assuming its not so bad that Xilonen alone cant generate enough nightsoul I dont mind it

[@SmallestOfPP]

What people should be worried abouut is that Mavuika's new butt physics is definitely getting powercrept by the new cow girl character. Mavuika is a god damn archon! She should have at least SS tier physics!

[@Oh_Snap-c2c]

Amen brother✊

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

@@SmallestOfPP …

[@SmallestOfPP]

@@TheGenshinIdiot True. Moment of silence for future Mavuika mains.

[@silverplayer7502]

🗣🔥

[@fgsfds__]

Damn

[@wizny70]

In all fairness she also has another use as an off field dps who could match Xiangling with no energy problems while buffing the on field character which instantly make her a really valuable unit, and imo the thing with her kit is not as bad as them making some 4 star characters only able to function well at c6 or Nilou only working in bloom teams. I think this restriction is good to give more value to Arlecchino. The only thing that really sucks for me is the fact that Citlali runs in the same phase and i dont have enough primos for both😭

[@wizny70]

oh and Pyro Traveler is decent for Mavuika which is great news

[@mmmmmmm3788]

okay, but u can't compare them both tho since Mavuika doesnt actual deal dmg off field as a lot compared to Xiangling, most of her dmg cals comes from her burst initial hit and the donut CA she does with her bike. I wouldn't call her off field dps but more to a buffer since the only thing valuable with her as a support is the buff that Cinder City set gives. Her off field pyro app is okay but her passive is not reliable since there is no guarantee u could get full stack of her burst especially not with her being run solo on a non Natlan team.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Good luck I guess

[@OTCThermal]

I'll just save for another Furina re-run at this point.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Good luck

[@OTCThermal]

@@TheGenshinIdiot thanks!

[@r0mant7c]

me too tbh

[@OTCThermal]

@r0mant7c There are so many things Mavika needs regarding the specific Natlan supports for her to function, not along with her C1 to make her playstyle more comfortable, but it's not worth it.

[@satyaki9390]

You forgot to mention one more F2P option … pyro Traveller 😂

[@butter5144]

😂😒

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

@@satyaki9390 I don’t think I did, I’m pretty sure I said something like “traveler but we don’t know if they are actually going to use nightsoul” all it showed was a nightsoul blessing

[@satyaki9390]

@@TheGenshinIdiot ahh maybe I might have missed it …. But yeah for sure traveller will have nightsoul mechanics based on the trailer on which he glowing like a bulb or by leaks if you indulge yourself into some of them😂

[@AtiPGenshin5]

If they have night soul blessing , then obviously they are gonna use nightsoul points​@@TheGenshinIdiot

[@mrdumb540]

traveller Who?!

[@jeerayut0580]

📌📌Yeah. But what about after natlan yeah? She’ll be boxed with only natlan characters for her to function. And that will be too idiotic, and it will be impossible, for hoyo to always just release a SUPPORT character from natlan. So, logically that mavuika will have limited supports unlike FATHER who will always be FUNCTIONING AND WILL KEEP ON BURNING whenever there is a new support whether they are from natlan or not. So yeah, that mavuika will be easily get expired soon enough. Not something to be wasted on with your hard earned primos! Not worth for any investments!

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

I would agree but I do also think they might've made Chevreuse to specifically buff Raiden, she is probably the most popular character in the games release so it might not happen for Mavuika but still its on the table.

[@jeerayut0580]

@ yeah may not happen “possibly” yet still “limited” unlike mavuika who is boxed and tied with “only” natlan characters while Raiden wasn’t tied or boxed to only “inazuman” characters for her to function well. You can throw any support from any region. While mavuika? Let’s be real tho. Wrong move for hoyo making her and focusing her kits as a main. While most of the popular archons are excellent supports and are entirely useful to the keep changing metas, mavuika will be boxed all the way.

[@starling1269]

It just seems like the perfect storm of factors to skip Mavuika, like, she is being released alongside a really hyped and powerful character Citlali who is cryo and thus who even knows when she'll be rerun and a harbinger who is also a pyro dps but can pop off on her own with standard supports meanwhile mavuika will get archon rerun timers. Almost enough to make me think they are trying to throw mavuika under the bus. Shes a safe skip, but for most people id say she will have the most account value. At least im assuming she'll be a decent main or sub dps without natlan supports and pop off when you (eventually) get them or a possible artifact set with nightsoul mechanics. And that's assuming kachina and pyro traveler arent sufficient. So imo worst case, you get her and she's *merely* a flexible and decent pyro dps. So, shes also just as much a safe pick as a safe skip. Ill make my choice when i can run her trial a few times, but thats mostly because I also just really like Arlecchino.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

The issue is that im pretty sure all her damage is locked behind her burst so I dont know how flexible shes going to be. As a support Im assuming that she will also want to burst because shes like raiden with a giant slash at the begining of her burst.

[@VetoShizu]

I'm going for Citlali but I think we need to wait to get some hands on experience with Mavuika before we jump to final conclusions. I'm more interested in the other charactees in the patch and if I have some pulls left then I'll try to grab her. Also Furina on release had Jean, Charlotte, Baizhu and even Noelle if peeps were looking for healers for her. It's just wild to say she had no support till Xianyun lol. The other healers provide more than enough healing.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Apparently I got charlotte banners mixed up. Once again though it wasnt about the quantity of options it was about the quality which all they provided was healing and I wasn't interested. I also did not say she had no support until Xianyun.

[@yinndragon7988]

I’m in the same exact boat

[@yanncabello6268]

Hoyo's commercial logic is increasingly greedy : - 5 star character mandatory or C1, otherwise, Mavuika is of no interest (meta) compare to Arlecchino. - New 5-star characters on the same banner, but no more time to pull - Incredible rerun just behind - return of Shenhe after 2 years, at the same time Well Hoyo, we get it.

[@arthurgeier2545]

@@yanncabello6268 C0 Chasca => mid af Go for C2. Like wtf

[@Daniel_G95]

You have Dawei to thank for that. Everything went downhill after he replaced that producer in 4.3

[@gravelor78]

Add these to the list: -The free 20 pulls is on the second banner, so not usable for Mavuika banner. -Lan Yan is on the fvcking second banner because of course.

[@ealexjrdn1]

​@@gravelor78 Lan Yan is at least a lantern rite 4 star so one copy of her is guaranteed, just like with gaming, Yao Yao, and Yun Jin the previous years.

[@Souyakunchansama]

Nah if they were REALLY greedy they would make more skins. 😢

[@krispiek4084]

I think the thing with HYV making so much of Natlan in terms of the characters and to a lesser extent the artifacts is that once we move on from this region a lot of the nightsoul gimmick is gonna be left behind unless they regularly release characters with the nightsoul mechanic. Furina, Nahida, Raiden, Zhongli, and Venti. to a lesser extent still have longevity because they can always release more healers, dendro characters, burst reliant characters, characters who want a shield, and crowd control relevant content/characters that want a VV and cc support. Already Mavuika has pretty limited team options but a character like Arlecchino still has much more potential for future teammates beyond a single region.

[@hiro4367]

More than 800 summons here were ready for MAvukia for way too long time. after I saw her official kit, twerking butt bike game style, stripper desgin and stranegly Natlan only team comb = skip till Kirk or just don't bother summoning anymore. Their characters after Inazuma is getting repatative and dull anyways.

[@BlueLemonadeRefresh]

That's literally me, i stopped bothering on summoning newer chars for that reason. Glad i pulled a C6 Eula and a C3 Raiden back then and they still keep going strong every abyss. I was planning on pulling C6 Mavuika but after i saw her bike gameplay and the need for other Natlan units was a huge dissappoint for me. Hope Skirk brings Cryo to meta again as it should have ever be.

[@hiro4367]

@@BlueLemonadeRefresh Eula is pure beast. I don't understand why some people dis her, I believe they don't even have her xD. Wishing you, me and everyone best of luck for the Frost shorty Skirk

[@BlueLemonadeRefresh]

@@hiro4367 They dislike her because she is mainly a Physical unit altho you can play her as hybrid Cryo/Physical(Burst) with C6 Shenhe and Chongyun but thats a expensive team and the lack of Physical supports or dedicated physical offield sub dps makes her difficult to play for not skilled hands and not forget that she is a backloaded unit too lol. I still love her because her design is elegant and with her C6 she still slay. I wish you all the possible luck too on your Skirk pulls ^^

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

This is... a comment

[@derr5760]

I saw calcs on reddit that arlecchino melt double cryo outdamages mavuikas highest dps team, plus shes more flexible teamwise.

[@Antithesis_72]

This. For those also unaware Arle teams have shorter rotations so even in teams where Mav would out dpr her Arle does the dmg faster and when extrapolated to the same times as Mav, Arle would end up winning in practice.

[@gravelor78]

​@@Antithesis_72plus her almost 100% uptime on her pyro infusion which is her main damage source. Meanwhile Mavuika has a 7 second window to dps and wait for another rotation to fill it up again...

[@tehCostHD]

This isn’t true. Arleccino melt is like what 93k dps ish? (With a F2P build I believe) and mauvika melt with xilonen and Citlali is over 100k

[@ofe_nsala]

@@tehCostHD bro i dont think up to 90% of f2p players have Xilo, and will be pulling for both Mav and Citlali

[@tehCostHD]

@@ofe_nsala well she’s the best character in the game. So many dps used kazuha back in the day and no one said “well most F2P players don’t have him so we can’t use him to judge their damage”

[@darylewalker6862]

She looks like the least generalist archon. Hopefully we’re wrong to some extent, like the run up to prior archons.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Yeah I hope so too

[@Daniel_G95]

Mavuika is not an investment character like the other archons, she's a compliment character once you have invested in other Natlan characters. And Hoyo expected us to just run with the fact that she's the Pyro archon as her sole banner quality. "Why should you invest in other Natlan characters you don't have to make this one usable? Oh that's just for lore reasons, you just spend on more characters to make her usable!"

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

@@Daniel_G95 I think she will be usable even with just kachina (assuming her damage is just that good) it’s just without having natlan she might not be the #1

[@nazirhussain2156]

People saying this isn't issue. imagine Raiden's chakra stacks can only charge when you use electro characters from Inazuma only.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Eh thats a little restrictive, its more like characters from inazuma. We will see.

[@nazirhussain2156]

​​@@TheGenshinIdiotAlso in future I don't think they will release a Natlan 4star support for Mavuika. Only option is Wait for Rerun of Citlali or Xilonen

[@mayukhmondal5552]

But for compensation she does like 3 times raidens dmg con to con you gotta take that into account too you know.

[@alpha4935]

​​@@mayukhmondal5552Not worth the tradeoff when all the other Pyro DPS can still clear Abyss just fine.

[@tehCostHD]

@@alpha4935yah but it’s worth it for newer accounts that don’t have insane investment yet, and for people who also value her off field capabilities to completely replace xiangling with. Yes, she’s not AS GOOD as xiangling in some teams, BUT she’s so much easier to use, and has no energy recharge issues.

[@nomar2924]

Pov the best dps in genshin Neuvillette: teammates (optional) Mavuica: new caractères one in the same phase with me or I can't burst

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Is this a new copypasta?

[@arominized]

2020: You need both archons (zhong li & venti) or your acct suffers 2021: You need Sig + C2/C3 Raiden to have a comfy burst dmg / uptime 2022: nah, C0 is fine just slap a tonne of EM, oh the sig makes life ez 2023: nah, C0 is fine just slap the fishing weapon, oh the sig makes dmg go brrt brrt 2024: You need sig weap and the recent Natlan charas, plus Citlali too... open up ur wallet

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

2020 they didnt really know what to do everything was so basic. But definitely looking like support archons are the best archons.

[@david_connors7031]

C1 and C2 Arlecchino are amazing constellations, I'll try to get them. Then save everything for Skirk.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Good luck

[@AtiPGenshin5]

Omggg wtfff , that's literally my plan , are you inside my head ?

[@david_connors7031]

@@AtiPGenshin5 I had to save my pulls at may for yelan banner, in order to get her the last constellations C6. I've always had the thought of getting at least the c1 at the rerun. Spending primos for father's constellations is always good. Good luck 👍🦋

[@Honed-]

i have c3 arlo, with her wep, now i have 400 summons for the fire arc, her wep, and citlali. (and mayybe c1 for the pyro arcon.... if im really really lucky, tho tbh i should get citlali's wep)

[@jakeryan2805]

Everyone should be up in arms they are literally pay walling their own archon by forcing you to have another specific 5 limited 5 star aka Xilonen, or Citlali. Her base kit will not function in a "reasonable" way without these characters if you want to play her on field. Anyone who doesnt have one of these two characters enjoy having to go through two full rotations of just mauvika on her bike alone to get her burst up. Its a terrible design decision.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

No I think it will function decently well with just Kachina, just compared to it with the best supports probably not that great. Just how furina wasnt really able to make full use out of her kit without fontaine or a full team healer. Only difference here is we dont have a full team her option and just have the natlan option.

[@thechillryan777]

Honestly my worry is that she has no future potential when natlan ends she has no room to grow since there won't be many new additions

[@tianshaun4753]

Right 😬

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

While their may not be many new editions we dont know how they will start making characters once we get to 8.0 (end of the 7 nations)? I dont know but certainly we can look at Chevreuse and see that she was clearly made for raiden to finally get off of hyperbloom as her best team.

[@despairpikachu8051]

My thing is this is just for optimal min max of mavuika. There is f2p options but having xilonen/citlali just makes it easier(which i dont get why people are upset shes optimal with xilonen when shes a top 2 support in the game).That being said her c1 relieving this issue just reminds me of neuvi who c1 fixes his need of a shielder and synergy with furina for optimal gameplay. Hoyo creating a problem and having the solution through constellations is gacha as usual.

[@DrakeTheBlackDragon]

Mavuika is an interesting situation that's for sure. I have all of the Natlan characters except for Chasca so it isn't necessarily an issue for me. There isn't even a way to "ignore" that part of her kit even with cons or a character like Furina (i.e. building Lyney for Vape with Furina instead of using his A4). This is going to be major running issue until at the very least we get more Natlan 4 stars.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Yeah I do hope they release some more characters to help her

[@whitelightning90]

New to the game, this type of stuff is why I never wanted to start in the first place

[@eyeofsibyl]

Quit while you can you'll thank me later

[@tonykidv2]

Just don't play the spiral abyss. These people are annoying min/maxxers trying to get big numbers for youtube highlight videos.

[@foreverzero1]

just a tip from a player who started since day 1.. just play wuthering waves or wait for upcoming games coming in 2025 like arknights endfield etc..

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Its not really that bad, you can still use her probably with just kachina but this defintiely is an oddity for characters in this game. You can look at Neuvillette and Arlecchino as examples of "Normal" dps characters

[@salter11z32]

True bro. As a 1.0 player, just play wuthering waves as the main and play genshin once every month 😂.

[@DScott-nk1lo]

I've used Mualini about 3 or 4 times since I've gotten her; excited she's getting support. If I lose on the weapon banner to Citlali's weapon I may go for her, not sure otherwise

[@DTolen]

They are doing the same that they do in ZZZ. There you need to play characters with their factions to activate all their passives. That way they can release strong new characters without fearing that players are able to build a strong team with older characters, because the new ones will require more new characters to function correctly.

[@aizatamir1417]

Because in lore she fighting side by side with her fellow natlan warrior. Hoyo incorporated that fact

[@Keks-sv6lw]

I wanted to say that too

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Yeah lore wise it makes great sense

[@samueleesposito9735]

C1 fix that issue, it sucks

[@fgsfds__]

Not really, just become more cofmy

[@justadragonnamemarcus1751]

Not really The uptime is still trash

[@felixmontanez4090]

Not really u can burst more easily but not necessarily still get the 200 FS compared to xilonen

[@Honed-]

id rather go for a chitlali over c1. if you don't have xilionen.

[@fabiodias4256]

C1 resolves a lot of that indeed.. you just need Mavuika's own comsumption points plus a few normal attacks, she will get ult hella fast

[@laiquende9971]

This is why I follow leaks. I pulled Xilonen for this exact reason. If you've been saving, I say grab the archon and get Xilonen on her next rerun. You do have time

[@Swerich10]

I'll get a copy of her but that will probably be it. I wanted a sub-dps/support, fortunately creators like Jello Impact are saying that her sub-dps is underrated so hopefully she will be amazing for my teams. The constellations only increase dmg which for her sub-dps role is nice but applying is the most important and the dmg increases arent worth the constellations.

[@NekoM3]

Mavuika does have F2P options like Kachina and PMC. But even then, I do think she is too restrictive. Mavuika is the least F2P friendly Archon so far. Made for long term players. Players who have teams that doesn't use Furina/Bennett/Citlali/Xilonen. Like, for me as example. I've been playing sine 1.0 and I have C2 Nahida so I won't be so affected by her restrictions in Abyss. I can suggest these teams for fellow future Mavuika mains, Raiden, XQ, Ororon/Fischl, Jean Raiden, Chevy, Fischl/Ororon, Xiangling Double Hydro Hu Tao Hyperbloom Clorinde Aggravate Burgeon with Thoma/PMC I honestly wouldn't pull Mavuika if she didn't have her exploration perks, and she is a claymore so she will be a great ore miner. If you have some other great team options that doesn't use Furina/Bennett/Xilonen, let me know.

[@Honed-]

ive been saving for her for so long, im fairly free to play, the last time i spent was when when albedo came out, i have 400+ summons for mavwika, i skipped everyone in nat,,, so i probabblly have to get citlali, witch i cant complain cause she is an amazing unit for pyro teams. and it means i dont need zong as my only shielder in the game anymore. an amazing team IMO would be: PYRO ARCON/ xilonen/ citlali/ bennett. because citlali is EM focused her melt triggers will do a lot of damage with the pyro arcon. the arcon bike spin attack covers the full range of citlali's ice aoe field.

[@aishaiyer8539]

I have a neuvillet team of him, Furina, Kazuha, and Xilonen but I have the characters to move some of them to the other side for Mauvika. For example, first team is Neuvillet, Zhongli, Kazuha, and Fishl, second team is Mauvika, Xilonen, Furina, Bennet OR EVEN BETTER (since I have 400 f2p pulls), Neuvillet, Furina, Jean, Fishl and second team is Muavika, Citlali, Xilonen, Bennet. I agree that it just depends on how your account is!

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Later down the line its not an issue, however right now people deliberately skipped all the natlan 5-stars so they could have Mavuika and now they are being punished for it.

[@zoom0244]

I think having Citlali is better than having Xilonen as a solo natlan character. While you won't be able to max out the FS with Citlali alone you will get enough together with everything else she provides will be her bis teammate. I think Mavuika's biggest problem will be vs enemies she can't melt.

[@johns783]

If you saved from the start of Natlan and skipped all you can both afford to pull for her c1, or citlali. I was going to save all the way thru, then Xilonen came out, and was so obviously a BIS teammate for literally everyone in the game, so i got her for Mavuika.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

No, getting 90 summons an update = 270 which still isnt enough to guarantee, and we did not get 90 summons for all updates

[@ztemporial]

@@TheGenshinIdioti saved 400 since August for my FIRST EVER PYRO DPS n going for C2R1 ☺️ that was the plan until I found out she wasn’t coming in November so I crashed out n pulled hu Tao 😞 now I got 280.. wish me luck 😢

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

@@ztemporial good luck

[@someguy1315]

Hmm.... I pretty sure Mavuika can work with out Natlan character. Just will be more down time on Mavuika charging up her enegry things by having other character spaming normal attack thing to charge up Mavuika enegry thing. Make wonder how bad can it be to charge up by normal attack. It more for a experiments. I almost forgot. Pyro Traveller oddly count. Plus kachina too.

[@emiweee_]

One thing is we actually do have another free natlan charcter: pyro traveller. We’ve seen that they get a nightsoul infusion so you really dont need to run kachina!

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

They also apply pyro off field which is going to mess with reactions

[@jakeryan2805]

For those of you confused on how shite this (fighting spirit mechanic) for her burst is. It basically only functions off of nightsoul points (CONSUMED). Meaning natlan party members that are able to burn their nightsoul points the fastest, and have the most, charge Mauvika's burst better than others. I.e. Xilonen burns 90 points in literally 2 seconds of field time. Most other natlan characters burn theirs alot slower and therefore charge Mauvika's burst much slower. She will still functions, but its basically the same as having to build a ton or energy recharge on her, ecxept not only that you are shoehorned into using natlan characters which the entire roster aside from Xilonen are main dps themselves. Not great if you wanted to use Mauvika as a main dps.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

I think they made the nighsoul for the dps characters because of this, still will work out since Kinich and Mualani have to do their whole rotation before they rotate again.

[@Wraith779]

You might not know but the thing to trigger her gain of fighting spirit is someone spending nightsoul points or normal and charged attacks, as well as her own skill builds fighting spirit not add in new pyro traveler and you got a new dps boosting character from natlan or kachina and zhongli. but I highly doubt she will need a natlan heavy team just one should suffice and you all get kachina for free. and most other people have xilonen so ain't no one got to sweat it really.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

I showed the clip of the difference between using Normals and spending Nightsoul, you will be there for an eternity if youre charging through normals. It probably will be 1 natlan character since Mualani with a full bar of 60 got about 25-35% of the bar filled up.

[@supernieva2419]

I think its better to wait for content creator server before you spread misinformation.

[@Wraith779]

@@supernieva2419 It's not misinformation, I was pointing out the oversight of him saying you'd need a full natlan team I've seen some of the early game play and it most certainly wasn't the case. the the content creators showing it had pyro traveler and 1 other natlan character aside from mavuika and had no issues building fighting spirit. Also we are all given the free kachina. So no one will really be struggling.

[@deadamoree]

The mechanic definitely fits Mavuikas actual character and personality which I love, but the normal attacks barely raising the bar? Seriously hoyo? At least make the normals gain the same amount that nightsoul does yk? And maybe to nerf her a bit so she isn’t even more cracked that she is- they could’ve just like had her buff Natlan characters with ATK% or something because most of them are on-fielders. I’m still going to pull for her bc I have Kinich- but I’m still pulling for arle after bc shes literally one of my favorite characters and she doesn’t struggle with goofy mechanics like this

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Yeah I imagine people may end up choosing arle as a dps and Mavuika to support natlan characters because without them its harder to use her.

[@deadamoree]

@ that’s my plan, ngl I just wanna ride around with a motorcycle and actually get my exploration to 100% 💀🙏

[@Squashua2727]

I'm curious to see what ownership and abyss usage rates will be. Myself, I'd skip her cause of the goofy, immersion-breaking bike even if she was twice as strong as Neuvillette.

[@sawloll6390]

7:57: baizhu crying in the corner

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

I thought I was talking about characters that came out after Furina and didnt realize Charlotte didnt come out on Furinas rerun but her intial banner

[@TheGwilwileth]

I’m pretty sure I will skip 5.3… Skirk is in coming and I always want cons and weapon now days. Plus any possible surprise Character that might show up. If, if I feel I really want Mavuika I can pull on her rerun. It is what it is… all the other Archons work with many other Characters no matter what region they come from…and I do have Xilonen.

[@exploreevery]

🗣️ Skirk reverse melt team needs her

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

I imagine she will be broken with cons though, we will see.

[@dualwieldroxas358]

Idk why people are saying save for Skirk when we don't even know her element, yet xD

[@snowfall1232]

I’m a bit conflicted. I see it in one way to combat power creep because her full power is harder to get to, but I don’t like how they’re doing it

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Same

[@carlitwo8463]

Ororon , despite being an electro-charged character, can also work really well in overload Mavuika teams with Chevreuse. Normal attacks may not raise the bar by a lot but it's just enough to get 100 Fighting Spirit with Mavuika also giving herself 80 FS

[@HshaGsgs-y1q]

Can you tell me how the rotation will be

[@Scultronic]

Use the PYRO TRAVELER!!! Why people cry so much for that? He is free and he will be able to charge Mavuika's fighting spirit as well cause he can enter in the nightsoul state as well as every Natlan character, he even appears in the trailer along side with Mavuika. You can even have 25% attack cause of pyro resonance and his c1 gives extra 15% damage, you will have cinder city set and nightsoul points. Everyone forgets that there is the Pyro traveler just in front of their eyes. . . .

[@m.ridzwan-26]

I guess my neuvillette have to accept the fact that his damage gonna be lower because Xilonen wanna join Mavuika team😂

[@justadragonnamemarcus1751]

Well Pyro traveller anr kachina will be there but not sure if they can help mavuika burst issue

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

They can but we need to see what the traveler is doing

[@coffeeking9565]

I dont play for meta, but i 100% agree that its sorta unfair that her kit requires other natlan units. They shouldve released two more 4-stars like fontain did. (Not including lan yan, bc she doesnt use nsb)

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Yeah kind of sucks that the shielder doesnt work because then her and Kachina could've made a great team with -40 res shred, shield, and 40% dmg bonus while giving nightsoul to Mavuika.

[@BigToyGun]

Xiangling still the Pyro Archon four years down the line.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

...I refuse

[@gizdra1128]

At the time I was annoyed with Furina and her need for a healer, but in this case this is worse than that, you not only need a Natlan character, but you need a character that gives you enough Nightsoul for a second rotation. I don't want to imagine Mavuika in the future, if we get to Schneznaya and she gets stuck because of the lack of flexibility of her teams.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

only time will tell

[@cacey_7716]

im thinking of getting mauvika as i like her and i have xilonen as my only natlan character but if i couldnt get her imma try to get arlecchino what u think ? (dont have any pyro dps)

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

@@cacey_7716 you can’t really go wrong, definitely archon will be better if you have the natlan characters

[@dualwieldroxas358]

For me, the issue is banner timing. Hoyo drained the hecc out of people's wallets with the 5.2 banner line up, and now not only are Citlali a0nd Mavuika being released in the same patch, but they are BOTH 1st half only. That is silly stupid

[@uboiyy1031]

Doesnt the banners get extended to 40ish days?

[@PowerfulOni]

Idk about 5.2 draining wallets. It was pretty well known who was coming 5.3 for awhile and I would say 5.2 banner wise has been pretty mid tbh.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

I think its because they designed Citlali for Mavuika and feel like releasing Mavuika without Citlali would be a shot in the foot to themselves.

[@infeinfe]

The one time my inability to save primos saves me. I got both xilonen and chasca even though I didn't really want either, but I do want mavuika

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Nice

[@mamunabdulla781]

Well, we gotta admit that she is super hot and beautiful archon overall. That's always comes with a catch and you know what it is 😂😂 - we are all yapping about it 😂

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Honestly I didnt expect this kind of reaction

[@jonathanrobinson198]

Well we see the Traveler have Nightsoul blessing so them getting nightsoul points is a pretty safe bet. Also, any teams that have normal attacking characters like Ayato, Yoimiya, Scaramouche, and even Raiden will also contribute to Mavukia’s charge.

[@giovanni1166]

Not raiden, and it will make an eternity to fill her bust with na

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

The traveler applies pyro off field which I think ultimately will hurt your reactions

[@AVPVN]

Pyro traveler have nightsoul mechanic so it's kachina and the pyro traveler + mavuika is also consuming 80 nightsoul points. If you somehow get c1 so you don't really need any 5*

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Sure

[@Bulbasaurrrr-uo8oe]

C1 not really fix that issue, and if you use Kachina and pyro traveler, you will miss two slots for better supports

[@Kevin-vh3tl]

@@Bulbasaurrrr-uo8oe? C1 is a very good costellation! It allows her to have a smoother and more "comfortable" rotation, and also to remember that mavuika can safely recharges her burst with normal attacks! (I would only take C1 because I would be closer to taking C2 which is BROKEN

[@gizdra1128]

You're crazy, my man, how are you going to fill 2 character slots with the traveler and kachina, what are you going to play? Mavuika, bennet traveler and kachina? Mavuika needs to be played in melts or vape, outside of that its performance is mediocre.

[@shawnc1475]

I want to complain but the only character i pulled for in 5.X was c2 r1 xilonen and i got all that in 90 pulls. I want to pull the archon but i have every other pyro dps

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Good luck on whatever you do

[@williamvega9044]

I feel with the archon being a DPS there’s still a chance we get a 5 start support equal to Bennett that works with her

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Maybe, then again they are putting her with her best friend this patch

[@ryanboyle5491]

"You should have got xilonen" man i started playing on the nahida bannner, i didnt get the chance :(

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Well you can get a chance when they rerun them

[@Honed-]

I SHOULD OF SUMMONED FOR XILONEN... but ..... i can get chitlali, and the arcon now.. THEN GET XILONEN WHEN SHE COMES BACK, ITS A WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN!!! chitlali is pretty much desgined to work with the pyro arcon, if you also have a xilonen, the debuffs work together like magic still. and youll be triggering melt reactions witch after the buff do alot of damage, expesually since chitlalidarie scales off of EM, witch is great for reactions, so yeahh, pyro arcons best team is xilionen, citlali, and then probably,,, honestly, maybe a bennett, or farina? tho the freezing will get a bit,,, annoying when you just want to trigger melt.

[@azureclipse70]

To people saying you only need kachina, kachina skill have 20 second cool down. Good luck filling mavuika bar with that.

[@JeffUni]

Cant you just do basic attacks with any character tho?

[@giovanni1166]

You need to do More Than 100 basic attack, good luck​@@JeffUni

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

...not wrong

[@themaidenlessnoob8207]

I was also saving for the her as well and skipped every natlan character but i need a pyro dps so fathe will have my 170 pulls 😢

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

...Yeah sadly dont know what to say

[@KozyLore]

The worst part about her is 1. Lack of team options because of the ridiculous limit to only Natlan characters and 2. The fact she will be walled after Natlan. After Natlan is finished, no new character will have night-soul. Meaning that unless they power- creep the unpower-creepable Furina, she will have NO new units to use, so She's effectively a bricked unit. Eventually shes going to get power-crept and people are gonna wonder why they even got her. The lack of teams also makes team set-ups SO BORING. No variety, no new things, nothing but the same combination of Bennett and Furina + any other natlan you want. She is just fundamentally a boring unit.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

1. Eh, team options idk about since you probably will only need one Natlan character. 2. all characters from natlan will have nightsoul we just wont know when our next natlan character will be

[@Mr_Z-q1z]

Tbh every dps needs some op support to function bennet kazuha xelonen and furina if you don't have any of them good luck beating abyss. so i see this as a non issue for people who already cant beat end game or don't even try to plus this is a gacha game no shit there gonna want to suck players for money. I'm f2p so i don't expect to have everything but I'm noticing a lot of people just don't plan there accounts and complain they don't have something. But as of now if you want mavuika just get her and you can wait till support reruns and if you have enuf primo gems get citlali to trust me its not the end of the world you'll live.

[@cjcirignano]

Maybe when the traveler is able to resonate with the statue of the seven from Nathan, then things will kind of be okay.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Double pyro doesnt seem great if shes going to be a vape/melt character

[@cyan7852]

U wanna tell me that ppl who saved for months cant simply just pull for c1 mavuika or mavuika w citlali and use someone like traveler or kachina?

[@bushy9780]

yeah, we'll have to see her in practice (without Abyss blessings) to see if these atrocious restrictions are worth it.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

I wouldnt call them atrocious since Xilonen is one of the best supports in the game

[@bushy9780]

@@TheGenshinIdiot true but then you won't have xilonen for neuv on other team for example since she will always be tied to mavuika. it's atrocious that she will always be glued to natlan characters

[@SainInaban]

Not just any Natlan Characters but Xilonen.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Specifically for dps sure, also include Citlali too

[@kibathefang6022]

So does this mean my Xilonen is actually gonna do something now? She's been collecting dust since I got her namecard. I literally don't have a team that I would use Xilonen over Kazuha.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

@@kibathefang6022 yes also you definitely have a team you just refuse to use it

[@nationalgeografic7687]

Well, any team where VV buff is too short/uncomfortable to use?

[@animalloverkaileigh]

Honestly, real. My Xilonen is also like useless because I'm too stupid to find a team she works with😭

[@ramsical]

i have 300+ pulls ororon is my only built natlan unit so skipping mavuika already have a pyro dps and xiangling

[@dmar3651]

Well, we'll see. Who knows, maybe Pyro traveller might be a battery for Mavuika 😂

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Pyro off field just like Mavuika so its not looking great

[@ABC-yj6cy]

I'm F2P and i have xilonen and 110k primogems ready for mavuika and citlali along with their signature weapons, win-win

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

@@ABC-yj6cy nice

[@animalloverkaileigh]

Where the heck are you getting 110k?!

[@Mc_neuvileTTTTTTTTTTTTe]

​​@@animalloverkaileighif he's f2p then he clearly saved for a long time (he's prob one of those who skipped arlecchino on her realese thinking "there is no way the pyro archon is going to be weaker than arlecchino" well well well)

[@orangemage9522]

I got my r2 Xilonen and when I saw the motorcycle, I spent all my savings on Neuvillette. Might try for Citlali on this patch.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Good luck

[@wansper9297]

2:43 or C1 also works whichever you want. imo if you skipped every new unit in the past 4 versions and dont have enough for 2 limited 5 star pulls.... idk what the hell you have been doing. Whether thats worth it for you is a different question. I just think if you were dedicatedly "saving for mavuika" you were planning to go for C1 plus anyway

[@nationalgeografic7687]

And if I don't like citlali or I wanna keep primos for future chars?

[@blackscorpion7967]

Wait what are 4 stars rate ups gonna be. I don't think they are gonna put Nathan characters with her because it's to soon for ororan

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

We dont know, kachina hopefully is on the banner but we did get her for free.

[@That_Daily_noko]

Her, PT plus kachina might be good as a F2P team?

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

pt?

[@Tabris-G]

@@TheGenshinIdiot pyro traveller prob

[@ilariaodinsdottir7312]

@@TheGenshinIdiot I'm assuming they mean Pyro Traveler. Just not the way most players refer to Traveler.

[@That_Daily_noko]

I meant Pyro traveler

[@rajibali4643]

What about pyro traveler which is using night soul point

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

I did not see it in the trailer, its possible he does but still I doubt you will be running the traveler who looks to be a main dps character on her team

[@PrincessPisces00]

I’m pulling for Arle, should I go for her C1 or pull for her weapon? I like her enough to try for her weapon but if it’s not worth it I won’t and will save for Wrio

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

C1 is always better

[@kawaiimika7974]

You should be, she's extremely restrictive and will struggle to synergize with future characters.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

@@kawaiimika7974 possibly, I’m more worried for f2p players. She’s an archon so I’m sure they will do what they did for raiden if her best team ever becomes using her as a full support.

[@kawaiimika7974]

​@@TheGenshinIdiot I don't think F2P's should be getting her if they don't have Xilonen or won't pull Citlali because she'll be so much worse. Obviously you can if you want to but that doesn't mean she'll be as good as everyone makes her out to be.

[@bencegergohocz5988]

You guys are way too obsessed with the idea of a character somehow needing to change up their whole team. In the 5.2 abyss, the second most popular team is an over 2 years old Kuki hyperbloom team and the third is a year old Neuvilette team and 4th is the like 2.5 years old Hutao double hydro, the 5th is a slightly different but just as old version of Kuki hyperbloom, the 7th is a day1 Tignari spread team, and the 10th is just Raiden national. The only teams in the top 10 most used that aren't at least a year old are an Arle team at 6th where only she is newer and, a hyperbloom team with an Ororon and 2 Neuvilettes with Xilonen. This is not HSR. Your characters don't just ganna rot away in a few months...

[@kawaiimika7974]

​​​@@bencegergohocz5988 When you are TIED to the best supports in the game and you will NEVER get alternatives for them then it is a problem. We won't get another Geo Natlan shredder, we won't get another Melt oriented Natlan Cryo unit and we won't get another Bennett. And if you replace any of these units she will be as any other on field DPS, so maybe stop glazing her for a second because she isn't all that. Edit: Also, she's a charged attack character, so, if you don't have Furina, you don't have off field Hydro applicators to use, except maybe Ayato but he can't even compare to Furina. And because she doesn't have Lyney's mono Pyro passive her damage won't be as high in that team or Burning teams. So yeah, good luck ❤

[@PabloRodriguezreal]

​@@bencegergohocz5988Bro, what are you talking about, nobody even talked about that. They were talking about the fact that she's not going to be really versitale and always binded to those few teams she got during natlan era

[@beau1924]

Do your elemental skills work for her too cuz if so you could use characters that hit multiple times at one+ Kachina. Also if Mavuika is your on field dps can’t she generate her hurst herself too???

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

No its only normals I think

[@jasonbain6556]

Tbh ppl who didn't pick up any of the natlan characters (especially xilonen) shot themselves in the foot because even as a newbie i can see that hoyo wants the new regional characters to work better with their region

[@meph09alt]

take the ousia/pneuma mechanism from Fontaine. it doesn't take anything away from a character when they're not fighting Fontaine enemies but instead gives a benefit when they are. the Fontaine mechanism added a constructive layer over the norm, natlan mechanism isn't an added layer, it IS the norm, to the point where you need it to get a burst out of this character and is destructive if you don't use it. so no, hoyo hasn't been working this way in the past for anyone to guess this to be the case now. but ig you won't know all this since you're a newbie anyway

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Yes but to make it to where they lock the characters burst behind it seems bad.

[@Dabeast1911Que]

The game is going to give you a free Natlan unit in pyro mc that will be super if you dont have any other natlan units. Also if you skipped this enitre patch then you have enough gems to get her and citliai

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

No, I would average 90 pull a patch (which we dont get) sp 270 assuming that you didnt summon for any non natlan character like Nahida or Neuvillette. Pyro traveler looks like hes going to interfere with reactions so hes not going to be that great.

[@Dabeast1911Que]

@TheGenshinIdiot reaction teams aren't her only team tho. She would get priority in reaction teams based on their list and that icd and things like that. You can also use the free for star we all got as well if you wanted to run vape. Is that fully ftp count? While you would have to win the 50/50 you should have a good shot albeit not a lock. Even more so if you have been waiting longer. In the end, mono pryo will be a strong team with her as well so her pryo mc and Bennet and a Zhongli or kahuza will be more than viable.

[@Flewfaraway]

How poetic in natlan no one fight alone even pyro archon also i have ororon what should i do i love using ororon in Exploration party I am new player 1 month and ar 48

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Ororon likely wont be great with her

[@ruxyruxandra4673]

you can also use normal attacks to charge her burst so she works with characters like arlecchino, clorinde, wrio etc. which means she basically works as a dual carry that deals damage alongside your main dps. Her c1 also fixes this issue edit: mavuika by herself also generates 80 points so you only need to get 20 to activate the burst. It will be much weaker than the 200 fighting spirit burst but you still get some damage off

[@yanncabello6268]

so here the choices for Mavuika to be an upgrade to a box which already own Arlecchino : - half potential : Arlecchino still rules, sidegrade or downgrade in certain teams to Xiangling as a support. - or C1/5star character mandatory. First time an archon has so many requirements to be OP. Hoyo's sales strategy is increasingly aggressive for content that is not evolving.

[@gravelor78]

"Just spend money to get c1 and fix her bullshit yall! 😃😃" I hate how this shit is so normalized now.

[@ruxyruxandra4673]

@gravelor78 if you skipped all natlan characters for mavuika you have more than enough to guarantee some constellations. If you wont get her cons whats the point in saving for so long for her?

[@Eseyy]

I got about 340 wishes, gotta summon citlali and all whats rest goes for mauvika

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Good luck

[@pinkpong9732]

I have mualani, kachina and ororon and also arlechino should i pull mavuika or citlali?

[@olivierkbidi4570]

Mavuika

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Mavuika for the Mualani honestly. Depends how much you hate Xiangling.

[@vonericmiranda8555]

At this point, I don't care if she's powerful or not since I settled on my pyro dps since ver. 1.0 *cough* klee *cough*. I just want to see for myself if the rumored jiggle physics up and down is real.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

...Being a klee main and looking for jiggle physics is concerning

[@6meterkevlar923]

So will lanyan work with mavuika ? If she does then mavuika is worth pulling cuz in the lantern rite we'll get lanyan

[@lulufortytwo3884]

Lan yan is Liyue character so no.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Lan Yan Liyue so she doesnt have nighsoul gimmick

[@Gaurang_Karande]

If you are going for Sub DPS Mavuika you will just have to burst every other rotation. And for people who haven't pulled since the start of Natlan for any other character I find it difficult that they won't have any pulls for Mavuika and Citlali, since it is 3 patches worth of pulls saved that is around 90 per patch assuming the lowest that would be 270 pulls saved. And we are also getting 20 pulls for Lantern Rite so these guys would have a good shot at getting both Citlali and Mavuika.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

90 per patch is what I believe the welkin moon players got I dont think they have given 90 to f2p for all 3 patches so far. I do agree people probably still have enough primos to at least get the pyro archon and try for Citlali but certainly not guaranteed.

[@Mc_neuvileTTTTTTTTTTTTe]

90 pulls is only obtaineble with welkin and battle bass. other wise it's so hard to get 70+ pulls per version

[@0rez1]

I‘m gonna invest my Primos for Mavuika, then after that, I will only spend for Natlan Characters lol 😅

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Good luck

[@Dyseptic]

Luckily I have won 6 straight 50/50 wins and have all the featured five star except kinich since raiden.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Wow

[@willjiang2599]

I have enough for two 5 star pity. Should I get C1 Mavuika, or C0 Mavuika and Citlali

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

C0 Mav + Citlali

[@willjiang2599]

@@TheGenshinIdiot , thank you for the response! But do you think I should save and wait for Xilonen instead of Citalali if Xilonen is better? Also if it turns out that pyro traveler does indeed give Mavuika the fighting spirt, would it be then wise to pull for C1?

[@DogolandiaMapper]

Thats... goof for me to be fair. I have 497 wishes and Kachina is ny only Natlan character Thise wishes are for Wriothesley. I wanted Citlali since shes my fav character from Natlan but skipping her sounds easy tbh, she doesnt work with my characters. Now hearing this I think skipping this patch wont be as hard for me as I previously thought But I definitely don't agree with Furina. She had a lot of healers on release. Jean, Baizhu, Charlotte, Sayu, Bennett, Kuki + The healing catalyst works greatly, Kokomi on field, even Barbara or Qiqi work. I believe she was more than fine on release since there were lots of options

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Bro acted like Charlotte released with furina. I wasnt complaining about the amount of options on release I was complaining about the quality of options on release, they just didnt provide a lot and it felt like you were supporting your support which was annoying.

[@DogolandiaMapper]

@@TheGenshinIdiot Charlotte was released ON Furinas banner? Litterally along each other? You can check that if you don't believe. Anyway Baizhu gives dendro and some buffs so thats more than enough. I know Furina doesnt buff hyperbloom but she buffs characters like Alhaitham, Tighnari or Wriothesley so thats great, Jean and Sayu allow for the use of vv, Bennett is Bennett, Charlotte allows for some melts or freezes which is helpful (not always though) +TTDS. The rest is really just for the healing though

[@lulufortytwo3884]

hopefully in 5.4 we will be free.

[@Wenn-gw1dr]

I think her banner is going to have less sales compared to Raiden and/or Nahida first banners but she's an archon so maybe not?

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

The issue is the people who dont have Natlan supports are already discouraged from pulling, her rerun will probably be normal since we will know what shes doing before then

[@lxlYukilxl]

I still don't find a problem with this. Furina needs a healer for full potential, xiangling needs a pyro battery otherwise her dmg and rotation will suffer, nahida needs a dendro reliant team to maximize the importance of her skills. Neuvillette, arlecchino, and wanderer need a shielder (for most ease of use, the skilled ones can dodge ig) at C0, anemo dps will basically suffer without c6 faruzan. Compensating the need of any er by replacing it with a natlan character doesn't seem that bad to me

[@meph09alt]

rq gimme a list of natlan supports out rn, let's see if it's the same as furina needing a healer in the team or nahida needing supports I'm pulling mavuika coz I love her design and playstyle but there is no denying that with the information we have rn it's looking grim

[@lxlYukilxl]

@@meph09alt For now we have ororon, Kachina, xilonen, maybe traveler and citlali, all can hold the natlan set so that already helps their standing as a support even if half of them don't provide anything other than a set user. There are still like 3 or 4 other future natlan characters I think so one of them might be a nice support, I hope the cow girl Or bird boy can be a support

[@meph09alt]

@@lxlYukilxl here's to hoping some of the characters coming up are easily accessible viable supports for her then coz as it stands rn lots of people only have kachina and hopefully PMC

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

The thing is we dont currently have true supports that a lot of people have where as all the things you listed are characters we have A LOT OF. Furina - Xianyun, Charlotte, Sayu, Jean, Mika, Barbra, qiqi, and the fontaine characters with HP gimmicks. Xiangling - This is a 4-star who has been given out for free many times and has a great support who is a 4-star Bennett, you also have Arlecchino and Thoma who can regen her energy depending on the team. There is also Favonious weapons which are 4-stars you can use to lower her requirements to. Nahdia - This isnt really anything, gonna be honest "dendro reliant team" just means a dendro team which isnt a bad thing at all since the reactions are really good, also she can give 250 em which can be used outside of dendro teams too. N.A.W - Zhongli, Xingqiu, Diona, thoma, Beidou, Kirara, and layla are all good ways of getting interruption res Anemo DPS - Sure but thats a C6 4-star its not really that crazy to have, and you can also try and lighten the blow by using another support like bennett. Mavuika DPS - Xilonen, kachina, & Citlali (One of them isnt even out yet and they have only had one banner, kachina may be free but shes still just 60 Nightsoul Points and entire value is based on her artifact set) Mavuika support - Chasca, Kinich, and Mualani (All pretty contraversial dps characters for different reasons and many skipped for pyro archon)

[@striker3909]

Man am I glad I’m going for arle lol

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Assuming you dont have natlan characters

[@miscellaneous7777]

I’m definitely skipping her and saving for the goat within the Natlan cast, the one and only Captain. I’m sure he won’t have any annoying Natlan handicaps. Nobody needs a second arlecchino or a n’th pyro dps and let’s not mention that ugly spinning bike 😒

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

...He aint comming in 5.x bud

[@gamingtemplar9893]

It was obvious she needed them because of how the artifacts and soul thing work and you could guess it too because of xilonen kit and.... expected it at the very least. But this is like in 1.0 saying "you need bennet for ganyu". As broken Mavuika is, this is a non argument for a skip.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

No you could not have, literally nothing in the artifacts we have show that she would've been this way. Well in order for her to be broken you do need to have broken Natlan characters to support her.

[@Neiwoy]

Tbh i'm already using Kachina for easy Navia support, and i have ororon so I'm fine.

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

I guess

[@ZAHIRxMORAX]

I have only kinich from natlan is it enough to pull for mauvika

[@TheGenshinIdiot]

Yes if you want to use her a support for him

[@nationalgeografic7687]

​@@TheGenshinIdiotbetter using kinich as mav's battery cuz he's weak af 🤡