I Made a Multi-Band Delta Loop Antenna with 4:1 Balun

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DXCommander

DXCommander

9 күн бұрын

In this video, I make a 40m delta loop out of Kevlar cored copper braid antenna wire, with strain relief and I attach the 4:1 balun that Mike and I made last year. Enjoy. Callum.
Here's the article I found: practicalantennas.com/designs...
The 4:1 Balun with Mike • How to Build a 4:1 Bal...

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@DonzLockz
@DonzLockz 7 сағат бұрын
Great to learn new words like "hoisty uppy" haha Good to see you still experiming Cal. Nice. :)
@acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE
@acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE 7 күн бұрын
Glad you had a good, well-earned holiday and it's good to see you back Callum.
@jamesemery1
@jamesemery1 8 күн бұрын
i have missed your videos, looking forward to seeing the antenna up and running
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 7 күн бұрын
Looking forward to seeing this setup and then testing it on air Cal! 🙂
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
You and me both!
@user-bz2sk3if2t
@user-bz2sk3if2t 8 күн бұрын
looking forward in seeing that new delta loop up and how good it will work and its also so good to see you on youtube again..best wishes 73 from america
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 3 күн бұрын
"For neatness?" "A frayed knot."
@ve3pcp
@ve3pcp 8 күн бұрын
I built an 80M delta loop in the 80s. Fed it originally with 300 ohm balanced line through a tuner..fed at the apex, hung vertically. It worked well. Put it up at my current QTH last year, fed with a 4/1 balun. Yes, it can be tuned and works from 80 thru 10 but the performance is not stellar on all bands. Alot depends on the radiation pattern as you move up in frequency. Mine is hung vertically, apex up, fed at the apex. Give horizontal polarization. Radiates well on 80 for regional contacts.
@kennethausten
@kennethausten 3 күн бұрын
I converted my long wire into a delta loop to try and reduce s9 plus qrm .. That certainly worked pleased to say.. I have 50m of wire in the air to a 9 to 1 balum. 4 to 1 I made was a failure. So the home made 9 to 1 unun works perfect. Should be a Balum Hardly needed the ATU .. Only 160m required atu... Found when i lived in Kent, the huge quad wire loop worked well just a few ft off the ground at the bottom of loop. So far results best i have had. Will stay with this. Also erected a vertical to compare. Mainly for the higher frequencies. . It works, that's the main thing. Being a retired electrician has provided me with all the tools and wire. One day we may work again.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Күн бұрын
The vertical might be nice for TX and the loop for RX maybe.. Good ideas there.
@BrokenSignal
@BrokenSignal 8 күн бұрын
Man that wire counter sure beats using a tape measure. Can't wait for the test!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
Coming soon!
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 3 күн бұрын
I was just concerned you were going to set fire to your fingers while using it!
@robertmeyer4744
@robertmeyer4744 7 күн бұрын
That a fun build to watch. Nice 4:1 Balun. Works for off set center fed dipoles as well. I had trouble tunning mine. Then I figured out I wound a 4:1 UNUN . My bad. switched that out and works and tuned fine for OSFD . The UNUN is mostly for End fed antenna. I made a mono band 20 meter veritable with 49:1 UNUN and ground radials . works super. My pole was not long enough so I fold back the top end like how the 40 meter is done on DX commander antenna. tuned great. under 1.7:1 the hole 20 meter band. This is cut 1/2 wave 20 meter band. 2 stack of FT 240-61 cores. 100 PF cap. #10 AEG mag wire on UNUN. takes KW just fine. using DX 10 wire. loop QRO loop on end. 73's
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement!
@dondonaldson1684
@dondonaldson1684 7 күн бұрын
Oh my, I smell a new product line coming from DXC...called the "DeltaDXC" 😁. I like the 13/15/13 leg ratios, it just feels right for some reason. On 40m, bet this tunes towards 7.1MHz. Great build video, Callum. I can hardly wait for part 2 and of course the real world test of the DeltaDXC. 73 de VE3NAP.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 6 күн бұрын
Good stuff!
@jerrym1183
@jerrym1183 6 күн бұрын
I like how you are putting this big antenna together "indoors" I had a good laugh on that hihi!! Is the exact same antenna I run successfully on 40 meters day in and day out btw, works well and is super quiet on receive .. Home made balun on type 43 torroid, ... works fantastic, configured as upside down triangle and fed at bottom
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 6 күн бұрын
Haha yeah! Easier to film this way!
@flipster7285
@flipster7285 6 күн бұрын
Watching this while on holiday and getting ready to trim the 80m delta loop I erected tomorrow.....going to be a fun holiday!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 5 күн бұрын
Nice!
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 6 күн бұрын
Good stuff , the boss man of Radio 👍🍻
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 6 күн бұрын
Haha..!
@tpcdude
@tpcdude 7 күн бұрын
Delta loops rule! Best results ladder line direct to tuner, balanced tuner, 1:1 balun to coax.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 6 күн бұрын
Yes. Band changes are a nightmare though.
@gtretroworld
@gtretroworld 7 күн бұрын
That Practical antennas article is superb so thanks for that..looking forward to seeing your finished results. Thanks
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
You and me both!
@JeffSkymaster
@JeffSkymaster 8 күн бұрын
Lighting looks good Cal, Thanks for the instruction
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 8 күн бұрын
Yes.. I had to very slightly change white-balance in post.. Other than that, OK!
@z3r0c00l2
@z3r0c00l2 Күн бұрын
Amazing Cal 😊 73s
@DK5ONV
@DK5ONV 7 күн бұрын
Frigging lovely Job, Lord Cal. I love Delta Loop Antennas. My portable Version is 84m (275ft.) I have a 4:1 and a 2:1 Balun in my ToGo Bag. My Experiences with this Antenna fully satisfied my HAM Needs in low Height Setup somewhere at 22ft. lowest. My highest Point ever was at 48ft. from the Ground. That's quite a Job to get done for an one Man Army having this Thing up for just a few Hours playtime. I love the low RX Noise Level and even on 160m Band this Antenna was a Flamethrower. My British HAMily on 1933khz got knocked off their Shack Stools as I gentle knocked their Doors (RX) with just a 100W portable. Tony G4ZCG always has a Smile on his Face every time I stopp by to say hello....he knows his Friend Günter has a big Screw lose 😂👍
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
Screw-Loose Günter sounds a great guy!
@signalscout6020
@signalscout6020 5 күн бұрын
Oh man. Is this the debut of the drone shots? Fantastic addition.
@FromthehamshackwithNJ4Z
@FromthehamshackwithNJ4Z 7 күн бұрын
Nice build Callum, looking forward to seeing how it turns out! Cheers!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
You and me both John!
@jasonodette8607
@jasonodette8607 7 күн бұрын
Fantastic Cal 👍 Thank you!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
Much appreciated
@Chris_KI4WCO
@Chris_KI4WCO 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. Have missed them. I've been waiting on this cause i want to put one up behind the house in some trees. Have some wildlife back there, so have to get it high enough.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
Go for it!
@DonDegidio
@DonDegidio 8 күн бұрын
Hi Cal, The loop should work. Keeping fingers crossed it goes up into the trees as expected. You and the family stay safe. 73 WJ3U
@fairlymajorstationno1298
@fairlymajorstationno1298 8 күн бұрын
GREAT STUFF CANT WAIT TO SEE THE DELTA LOOP DE MI0TLG WILLIAM
@garywatkins6800
@garywatkins6800 7 күн бұрын
Hi Cal, looking forward to seeing this go up and the results. Mine works very well, much quieter than my end-fed. Good for G and Europe. Mine is fixed at the corners with just cable ties. So I can cut the ties and move the position of the balun for testing etc. That kevlar wire is really nice. 73
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@alanslade2319
@alanslade2319 7 күн бұрын
Yes can't wait to see how it works out, I know that it's going to happen with the trees and that, just wondering how it's going to all work out with someone else measurements. Ps I know that you have already done it in your head, but looking forward to seeing it up in the trees and working.thanks for all your work makes my days a lot easier.ALAN .💯👍
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
I have made a few previously. No worries.
@nealbeach4947
@nealbeach4947 7 күн бұрын
The only delta loop I've built is one for 6 meters. Horizontally polarized at 30 ft and works great.
@Stewart491
@Stewart491 8 күн бұрын
Thats what i am using ❤❤❤❤❤
@andylinton2798
@andylinton2798 5 күн бұрын
Like that DX50.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Күн бұрын
Yes ANdy.. Designed I think originally by Plessey (I think).
@Frank_K4FMH
@Frank_K4FMH 7 күн бұрын
LE Cebik’s articles one the HF loops identified most of this a few decades ago. Google his work on loops. You might be amazed…
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 6 күн бұрын
Er, not really - built a few of these. And folks like something different.
@andyM7XTT
@andyM7XTT 8 күн бұрын
Looking forward to the next one cal.still say your old 80m doublet you had years ago takes alot of beating
@ve3pcp
@ve3pcp 8 күн бұрын
I used nylon pulleys in the corners of mine. It make it very easy to put up and not so concerned about the supports being 100% in the right spot.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
Yes Easy.. but look at the interior of the woods!
@ve3pcp
@ve3pcp 7 күн бұрын
@@DXCommanderHQ Not much different than mine. I live in the middle of a white cedar Forrest.
@DD5LP
@DD5LP 7 күн бұрын
Bet you wish you'd marked the 13 / 15 m points when you were measuring the wire out on the rig at the beginning. That wire with Kevlar in, we used to call Magic wire in Australia. Not sure why, just know it's great stuff. Loop antennas whether delta, square or ideally as close as you can get to round are fantastic antennas. I've been using them for 13 years now and they're great. I haven't found a better wire antenna yet. 73 Ed DD5LP
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 6 күн бұрын
Well, maybe but it only added 5 minutes and in any case, I still had to unravel it all to add the connectors.
@PanelsUpSolar
@PanelsUpSolar 8 күн бұрын
I was just thinking about how I can utilize my drone to help me string some wire through my trees. Hope I don't need to wait to long to see how you keep the string out of the rotors.
@Alan2E0KVRKing
@Alan2E0KVRKing 7 күн бұрын
I've made smaller deltaloops for 6M &4M, I would like a 40M version but I don't have the space at home!
@eoinm0nvk110
@eoinm0nvk110 6 күн бұрын
O good you are back. Then found the other vid with music ending...if you know you know. Left your discord too many fools. Anyway...back to loops...i used DX 10 for my big loop (90ish meters) works just fine. Big strain on it and no problem...you will need more length, add it now. Eoin IOW.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 6 күн бұрын
Yeah, need about 2m in total I think.
@vinnyboomba9948
@vinnyboomba9948 6 күн бұрын
I would be a buyer
@radiofanuk
@radiofanuk 8 күн бұрын
Fancy leading me one for a steam rally activation in July. I can come pick it up.
@genoa1979
@genoa1979 7 күн бұрын
I want it🎉
@edwinpd0sot503
@edwinpd0sot503 8 күн бұрын
Rev it up to the spec of the balun :) thank you for sharing !
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 8 күн бұрын
Will do!
@edwinpd0sot503
@edwinpd0sot503 8 күн бұрын
@@DXCommanderHQ "Hoisty uppie" ... made me laugh
@brianfields4479
@brianfields4479 7 күн бұрын
Loops are always good rx ants if nowt else, but fed at certain spots produce great dx.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
True!
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 8 күн бұрын
The antennas and data on that page appear to be for vertically hanging loops, not horizontal ones.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
OK
@JayN4GO
@JayN4GO 7 күн бұрын
Curious your results.
@Scotscan
@Scotscan 8 күн бұрын
Will the drone be used to fly it into position? Should make good viewing
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
Not sure how the hell I'm doing it yet!
@piquat1
@piquat1 8 күн бұрын
Did you make the wire counter yourself? (didn't expect so many questions about it did you, lol)
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
Yes.. Well, the basic counter I bought - but I managed to put it all together..
@johnlew5972
@johnlew5972 7 күн бұрын
That tight twist in the wire and bend in the in the wire going through the black insulator. Doesn't mess with the antenna wire swr or TX/RX ???
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
Nope.
@johnlew5972
@johnlew5972 7 күн бұрын
@@DXCommanderHQ So why did it matter where I bent the wire on each vertical. When i built the dx commander. You wanted it to be very specific where it was bent and how much the tail was.
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 3 күн бұрын
@@johnlew5972 That's due to horizonal loading and therefore tuning isn't it?
@mattyfraser9487
@mattyfraser9487 8 күн бұрын
Sounding like my old moped from 80s at the start lol 😅
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 8 күн бұрын
HAHAHA!
@LeeMcc_KI5YPR
@LeeMcc_KI5YPR 8 күн бұрын
Cal, can you share a source for Kevlar wire? I know the cost is non-trivial.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
Yes.. Search DX COMMANDER DX50 KEVLAR WIRE
@countrichardvonfalconstein5095
@countrichardvonfalconstein5095 8 күн бұрын
I have to get a big value I run a Johnson 500.
@BRJ2
@BRJ2 8 күн бұрын
Why not just mark the wire as it's coming off the spool?
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
You do it for me.. It would be a lot easier.
@BRJ2
@BRJ2 7 күн бұрын
@@DXCommanderHQ Sure, send me some spools of that DX50! I'll cut a few bits off for you. 😉
@Hamradio101
@Hamradio101 8 күн бұрын
Excellent Cal good to see you back mate Ray/mm7rwc
@eazystreet5507
@eazystreet5507 7 күн бұрын
What direction ?
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
See previous video where we discussed patterns. Thanks!
@Rubedo777
@Rubedo777 7 күн бұрын
Hi Cal, great to see you and doing a project as well. 😊 💎 🪛 I’m not trying to be clever, coz I’m not 🤪 However, from your previous vids… are you not going to be inducing the linear loading principle to the loop on the fold overs parts at the egg supports… 🧐 Can you use doubled doingy doingy loops at the eggs and the balun to support the delta? That should give you tension supports… maybe ? Best wishes to everyone.73. 💙
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 7 күн бұрын
The "loading" on the corners are almost invisible. No worries.
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