I Made a Tool to Debloat Windows in 2 Clicks

[@Floppa294]

you should 100% call it binbows

[@TotallyNotK0]

debating it

[@zeep-yt]

Binblows*

[@liamthebox]

DeWindows

[@liamthebox]

Or perhaps DeMicrosoft

[@wikwayer]

Binboss

[@paintrane1179]

"Edge is gone." **EDGE REMAINS** "Oh no." That genuinely cracked me up. But yeah just a loading bar or something would be great. This is an amazing tool and I want it now haha! Great job! Can't wait for the finished tool.

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@paintrane1179 thank you! Definitely will add the progress bar

[@paintrane1179]

@TotallyNotK0 My man!

[@lysolan269]

edge is such a pain to remove and bricks stuff. Not surprised it just refused lol

[@onnigamer16]

​​@@lysolan269if you're european simply press uninstall it will warn that some apps won't work because they depend on edge but americans just search what arguments you need to start the edge setup with to delete it

[@PanoptesDreams]

In Windows 10 even if you completely remove edge, it will stay in your Start menu. I don't know if this persists in W11, I don't use it.

[@himselfmore4867]

An offline, completely no Internet option to remove all the bloatware would be amazing

[@TotallyNotK0]

Definitely. I'll look into that

[@hazss]

in the windows 11 install, if you activate the command prompt and type something idk i forgot in there, it will restart and let you pick a option saying that you have no wifi, and that will make sure your installation of windows has only edge in it

[@jamester999]

​@TotallyNotK0 use Rufus to flash your win11 iso to a usb stick, it give you a tick box option to skip making a Microsoft account and without internet and other options

[@Jazm-nj2de]

​@@hazss OOBE\BYPASSNRO is what it is iirc

[@Extreme-PCIe-Cable]

im not a programmer but it should PROBABLY be as easy as packing the already existing tools into talon instead of downloading them from the internet and letting talon extract and run the files.

[@FurroGenerico]

You can trust one of these when it starts with "Windows is bullshit" pure spite and anger released in such an elegant manner

[@Sparks621]

A few points of feedback that I have personally: - This tool MUST BE **FULLY** OPEN SOURCE (or at the very least source available). This wasn't explicitly mentioned in the video or maybe I missed it, but it's the single most important thing. This is nothing personal against you or your project, but you have to understand that some random youtuber (no offense) giving people a random unsigned exe and telling them to run it as admin on their personal computer is a pretty hard ask, and it also promotes really bad OpSec practices. I want to be able to audit the FULL source code myself, or even compile the entire program locally on my machine. Otherwise I won't even consider using the tool, and I will actively discourage everyone else from using it. - Do not include your custom Raven apps in the "Barebones" preset, or add an even lower preset that only does the debloating. No need for custom wallpaper, no shell tweaks, no custom taskbar color. Just remove all the bloat and do nothing else. You could also add an "Custom" tier or something with a bunch of checkboxes, to let the user pick and choose exactly what they want the program to do on their system. Other than that this seems like a very nice project if it actually ends up delivering on all promises. Personally I've already ditched windows entirely in favor of Linux so I don't need this on my main rig, but I still might install windows VMs in the future so I'll def. keep an eye on this project.

[@TS19-w1n]

Second this

[@ProtonFission]

I agree and support this comment 😂

[@pawnm0v3]

This would be great. After all these points are taken into account I definitely think this would be a good grandma friendly tool instead of doing ctt's tool for debloating. dont get me wrong that tool is amazing but it isn't as user friendly for people who are not tech savvy!

[@_GhostMiner]

The thing with "open source" is that you can still hide malicious code in there (like a back door), and if someone who understands how the projects works won't notice it and approves those changes, your "open source" project is now a malware. TL;DR: regardless of how it's distributed, malicious code can always sneak in if the developers aren't cautious enough.

[@TotallyNotK0]

Exactly the point

[@FelixVG]

Amazing idea, best conceptual execution ive seen so far, all I’d add is the ability to create a profile of my own (i.e. install specific software, turn on or off specific settings etc.).

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@FelixVG that is the most suggested feature, will do. Thanks man!

[@j4eni]

I would love to see an Enterprise option. No added programms (cause most will do that via deployment systems with preferences already set). Just full utter debloating, ideally with a silent switch for automated rollout. We currently have to deploy multiple scripts, programs and such. It's a pain in the ass.

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@j4eni oh for sure. There'll most definitely be an enterprise variant. Normally we make enterprise variants cost money but since it's foundationally built off open source projects too much we'll probably just release the CLI version for free. One CLI usable via CLI and args

[@j4eni]

@@TotallyNotK0 That sounds sweet!

[@chinesepopsongs00]

If you do this for enterprise you should not work in IT. Enterprise already has the the official Microsoft tools to modify the OS as they want. Use this and if you get a company in trouble because Microsoft does not support this and the company finds out you did this stupid thing get ready to be fired on the spot and probebly get sued for the damages.

[@j4eni]

@ Dude, this IS based on official Microsoft Tools. Just consolidated. I am aware of different options and profiles, but sometimes they are just broken or simply do not work (like getting rid of WebLinks on start that Microsoft literally gets paid for displaying there) or manufacturer bloatware like HP Sure Wulf and stuff. IT is thinking outside the box, especially when going modern workplace. Of course, when doing it like the dinasours with PXE boot and predefined images, you might not need this.

[@DOOMVXGA]

Here is what I would like to see: - An empty profile. I understand having presets but I would like to rip out Windows’s BS _and_ choose my own software. - OPEN SOURCE. This project would HUGELY benefit from being open source. - UI fixes so the user feels like something is happening as talon runs. I would 100% support this project financially if I was in a position to do so. So far this is incredible, and I would run this on a new machine even with the current issues. Please keep us posted, you’re doing such incredible work.

[@TotallyNotK0]

Thank you very much! Yes there will be a way to uncheck apps you don't want, and also yeah open source is important for a project like this. And yeah I'll add a progress bar or spinner

[@ConnorTerror01]

may want to keep a browser though

[@timesf2350]

@@TotallyNotK0 im just here to second the above comment cus thats exactly how i feel about this, open source also makes this vastly more trustworthy (although im pretty much sold, a lot of people wont be without it)

[@timesf2350]

@@TotallyNotK0 also also, open source means maybe someone random who likes the project could implement multithreading for yall

[@GenericVideoGameNPC]

i'm a little bit unsure the idea of forcibly including your own applications but, great to see this.

[@TheLonelyMoon]

Winutil by Chris Titus is pretty good. Got heeps of option, you can choose which to remove, create back up point, install winget/choco if you use em, and change update schedule with some bottoms so if MS pushes a faulty update ya PC won't be cooked. It's all in PowerShell so you won't need to install anything extra

[@TotallyNotK0]

There will be a way to uncheck apps you don't want, those included

[@TotallyNotK0]

Definitely. This tool is definitely not the best option if you want maximum control over what you get

[@GenericVideoGameNPC]

@@TotallyNotK0 Then I revoke the first half of my comment, keep up the great work.

[@RoshiGaming]

@@TotallyNotK0 I think having the option of opt-in would be better than opt-out. Obviously you want people to use your tools, and it is YOUR utility I get it, but I think these kinds of things shouldn't be the default option.

[@gredennight]

i think it would be funny to show some interesting facts about windows and it's bloat in ui while the script is running

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@gredennight that would be very funny. Noted

[@AtlasFox_]

​@@TotallyNotK0"Did you know? Microsoft Edge will beg you not to switch to a different search engine"

[@Flame07518]

“Did you know? Microsoft will shove their unnecessary AI into everything, even Notepad!”

[@Talking__Ben]

"Did you know? Microsoft Edge is technically malware, as it literally grabs your data without your permission and gives it to Microsoft."

[@oklol681]

"Did you know? Bing spoofed Google's search bar when you search for Google on Bing! That's how desperate they are!"

[@oglothenerd]

I switched to Linux, and never looked back! I do NOT miss Windows at all! Leaving that crap behind! :D

[@osinstalls]

Same, Linux is my daily driver. Only recent time I booted into Windows 10 LTSC spare pc was for a Discord streaming event I couldn't stream the game in Linux because that was borked. I really don't miss Windows 11 though that was the worst in my experience. I've been able to stay away entirely since Nobara 39, not just the dual booting I did in the old days. It's a hard habit to break but if your games work in Linux, there isn't much need to go back and it's easier to stay away. The setup is easier too now for gaming then it was years ago. Even 5 years ago, I used to raid and dualboot fine. I'd honestly miss KDE if I did leave at this point. I cringe whenever I see the centered Windows 11 toolbar and bloat on it (I remember before they made it movable having to edit it to left align).

[@GraveUypo]

@@osinstalls i never even installed windows 11, it's the reason i'm on linux. in 2023 when the EOL of win10 lurked dangerously close, i decided to finally learn linux so i installed mint on an external drive. i didn't expect to like it so much that it would be my daily driver, but here we are, a year and a half later and i'm still booting from that external drive, lol. (it's an ssd but it's capped to 500mb/s by the usb bus. oh well). windows 10 is still installed but if i said i use it 1% of the time i'd be too generous. it's not even close to that.

[@EASsirenVids01]

I would use Linux as my main OS, but I do lots of stuff on Roblox (both playing and developing my own games), and Roblox doesn't have any Linux support anymore

[@donzo4784]

@@EASsirenVids01 uhh i think its called vinegar.. and there is one called sober.. both roblox clients there isnt official support.. but ive never had any issues with these two apps if you wanna give it a try

[@nathancharnas]

I’ve been thinking of doing the same, but I rely on NitroSense. Are they any tools like this for Linux?

[@Glinckey]

Other stuff that I want in windows 11 - ACTUAL theme changer: that I can click that from Mica to Acrylic or Aero - the ability to uninstall Edge - Disabling every tracker - the ability to change all the default icons like a texture pack

[@egokhanturk]

you can uninstall the edge but it makes the windows Unstable

[@LeftyPencil]

An (easily accessed) option for the Right-click menu to show the whole menu for the corporate users :/

[@_GhostMiner]

1. DWMBlurGlass 2. TotalCommaner running as SYSTEM Idk about the rest because I don't use shindows 11

[@MatarM0]

@@LeftyPencil you can turn use the old context menu you either do it manually by registry (look it in google) or you can use chris titus tool in the tweaks section enable classic right click menu and run the tweak

[@Cat_loaf20]

@_GhostMinerdmw crashes too much

[@JessicaFEREM]

Honestly I like it. I like that there's just something I can point to and go "if you wanna debloat your system just run this exe and click the go button" I also like the chris titus tool for asking what you wanna do, but it's also not as grandma-friendly as this.

[@TotallyNotK0]

Exactly. I would normally just point people to CTT Winutil but so many people just stopped at "Powershell" and just gave up, and I don't blame them lmao. It's about time it's just a "run, click, done" ordeal

[@paintrane1179]

​@@TotallyNotK0Clicking GO and just having it take care of all the bullshit is definitely what people like me need!

[@luciousp226]

I have to say I do wish spotify didn't come with the gaming one, I understand the idea is to keep it minimalistic so ANYONE can use it, but maybe it would be worth having like a custom option so that for the people who do wanna fuss about with tick boxes for hours can do so

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@luciousp226 I see your point. Yeah we'll tweak the profiles more based on y'alls suggestions. Thanks

[@AppzyCat]

agreed

[@dakingofcubes]

yea, winamp or foobar is better ngl

[@luciousp226]

@@dakingofcubes it's not even about using what's better it's about having the choice to not have a music app in the first place

[@natethegamer24]

@TotallyNotK0 I think one thing you could do with the custom Checkbox is have a template dropdown option or something that uses the profiles you already made but allows the user to add or remove those final preferences

[@SpeedyMckeezy]

the hit of dopamine I got from seeing it delete all the bing services was insane

[@flashlightning6742]

I think the biggest thing I’d want to see, given you are saying this is a middle ground between those who don’t care and extreme power users, is very clear and straightforward documentation that lists *everything* this does to your system. Not everyone can, or wants to, go through the source code or carefully watch what it does, but at the same time running a program that changes so many things on your system and very much has the ability to do things you don’t want, malicious or not, is daunting. I’m not very keen on running a tool that simply “debloats” with little further information, but at the same time if I have to dissect what is happening I might as well just do it manually. I have been sparing with even using the CTT tool, even though I trust that it isn’t malicious, simply because there is too much opaqueness in what exactly it is doing to my system in a more technical sense. If I plan on using an OS for years and years, I want to know exactly what I’m doing when I set it up.

[@TotallyNotK0]

This is an excellent suggestion and I absolutely agree. Definitely

[@iwasneverjoebiden]

500th windows debloat tool ive seen this week

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@iwasneverjoebiden peak

[@disastercal1]

Man this is brilliant, only thing I would ask is that you add a little other option in the bottom corner to pick and choose what apps you download because I would find that really helpful. Anyway love the project and hope you have a wonderful day.

[@TotallyNotK0]

Thank you! Yes, will be adding a way to check and uncheck what you want

[@disastercal1]

@@TotallyNotK0 Also (sorry for bothering you), will this work on tiny 11?

[@DosGamerMan]

What a great idea. Not looking forward to going to win11 and this will make it less painful.

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@DosGamerMan that's the hope. Godspeed lol

[@aannnor]

Shift + F10 and OOBE\BYPASSNRO my beloved

[@toquita3d]

I'm immediately put off by this program, for two reasons: - no source code (yet at least); - the "bare bones" option installs stuff. This is a big no. I don't want anything installed. Please just make an option to fully debloat it only, without installing anything.

[@diotitus]

Dang man, that tool honestly looks pretty badass. I can't wait until the final production version of your app to come out, so I can try it myself. Kudos to you guys for the software and I hope it gains a lot of users. The only couple of suggestions that I personally could make are perhaps making the GUI more of just a floating Window instead of fullscreen, like you showed it in the video, and making the design similar to that of the AME wizard perhaps. Another suggestion that I would have is creating a separate screen or dedicated mode for the advanced users that you were talking about, and adding toggles with a custom app menu that allows users to pick and choose what apps they would like to install and bloatware they would like to remove. Otherwise though, the tool looks fantastic and I hope to be able to try it out once it is fully done. I sincerely thank you for all of the time you and your team took to develop the app. Have a good one man and best of luck to you.

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@diotitus thank you very much!

[@lukek4369]

Man I love this! I will stay tuned because I only go as far as Uninstalling Apps from the settings menu, but I know there’s still a ton of Trackers and Telemetry data, as well a programs like Edge eating up my RAM and my limited disk space. I have a slightly older gaming build. And I hate that like 5 or so GB is being used when I’m doing nothing. All I have is Steam, Steam Games, Discord, and Opera GX. That’s it. Keep up the great work! I can’t wait to see where you go with this.

[@TotallyNotK0]

Thank you!

[@Vasher-The-Destroyer]

Edge is the new Internet explorer when you think about it.

[@DrKoneko]

I love this idea and its something I've wanted forever. If i could give some suggestions, it would be these. 1. Make either a progress bar or an ETA appear. It just makes it less stressful in general. 2. Add a custom profile option that lets you pick and choose what to keep and what to remove, or even have importable profiles for multiple installs. 3. And most useful, add a reinstall edge option. I debloated my windows install on my MacBook and at some point Arc browser which I use errored out and needed to be reinstalled, but I had no browser. If there's a way around this I didn't know what it was but i just downloaded opera from the MS Webstore (I wish that was gone though), redownloaded arc, and deleted opera again. Not having to go through that little dance and just have a single reinstall edge button would have been nicer but I get if this is a bit out of the scope of the project or something. Amazing work though, i can't wait for a full release!

[@TotallyNotK0]

Noted. Thank you!

[@benzeboy5]

I'd add a "recommended for most people" green glowing label to the barebones so Grandma knows what to click

[@playlistss4953]

Another thing to note is that on the spectrum of folks from the non savy parents to the technical hobbyists, there’s a large chunks of us in the middle that know there’s probably solutions to stuff like bloatware but are simply too afraid to alter system files so of course simplifying the process down to a “How to for dummies” is really assuring

[@superNova5837]

A few things 1) several people already mentioned it but the ability to remove applications from specific profiles (I.e removing EA app because you don’t play EA games or removing blender from the student profile if desired) granted this could be done later but it would be more of a one click setup if this could be done before starting 2) a creative profile that could include alternatives to Adobe products 3) keep the accessibility tools mostly I. The event they are needed and just add a checkbox for deciding whether or not you want to keep those features

[@TotallyNotK0]

Thanks for the suggestions. Yeah we're keeping the essential Windows apps like accessibility tools. They shouldn't be affected

[@osinstalls]

@@TotallyNotK0 RGB bloatware removal, granted this can be manually disabled in the BIOS, but that loved to ruin a nice fresh install. OpenRGB is pretty great (or a blackout build). But say if someone moves installs each manufacturer's RGB bloatware software can get on the machine also and wreak havoc.

[@Memnoch9299]

I'm looking forward to the release. It looks awesome and I'm excited to check it out when it's ready.

[@chasewtir]

12:23 you NEED Microsoft store for Minecraft bedrock

[@runed0s86]

Then use Minecraft javs

[@TotallyNotK0]

Yeah, I think we'll be keeping the Microsoft Store itself

[@kestrel7714]

@@TotallyNotK0 also i want keep Live Caption as well

[@ngc4]

this is actually crazy, love how u can choose a profile so it comes with pre installed apps for certain ppl

[@blueytbh]

honestly vlc should just be included in all profiles

[@The.Phoenix_]

Yes

[@ericjauregui3089]

How do you get Vlc to play blu ray?

[@colinberg3342]

I have been waiting for something like this for years. As you said I don’t have the time nor knowledge to spend 2 hours debloating windows. I like the profiles and even don’t hate having your teams software included because after all you are providing a service so some personal advertising seems like fair play. I do agree that the profiles should have some kind of optional checkbox to exclude various service you may not need but other than that this seems amazing.

[@musishoon7950]

I gotta say, I hate the raven software being included in the barebones.

[@pauberrymon5892]

Great Project there Bud. AWESOME I LOVE IT! Maybe add a little animation of a Droid erasing the "dows" off the end of Windows to where just says Win would be cute to watch on loop until it finishes improving the OS. It gets REALLY old having to use Regedit, Group policy editor, and then Programs and Features, then Services to disable telemetry, and other garbage, then Local Security to gain better Admin permissions, then VS Groups Revo Uninstaller or PowerShell to cut out Edge and the other 🦬💩bloatware hoping you don't cut out so much that windows refuses to load again after going through all that trouble carving out fat just to get to start over.

[@LIFETIMEACCESSplus]

4:04 when you called a sata cable an "hdd cable" I knew we were in for a wild ride. Brother, your heart’s in the right place, but calling it your magnum opus after saying you don’t understand multithreading, while creating a GUI for existing open-source tools and piping your own software replacements for things like Notepad into it.... is kinda wild. All the comments asking for variations on your list of installed programs should make you realize why those open-source programs are designed the way they are... for all the people who, as you’ve said, 'want to spend their time checking boxes.'

[@xthedronx]

fax

[@TotallyNotK0]

I understand multithreading, it's just a pain in the a. Also yes, this tool does use other open source projects as a foundation for the debloat process, however we did automate the process, include tweaks of our own, and we're putting it all in one easy to use place for non tech savvy people (not to mention we are going to be maintaining this tool too). There is a need for this stuff to be easily usable for people who don't know or even want to use Powershell or whatever else. You will be able to uncheck apps you don't want, including Scratchpad and others. And so we're clear, open source is for everyone, not just devs and tech savvy people. If you disagree, you are a part of the problem Raven is solving

[@danielsimpkins9662]

100% facts. Adding forced bloat to a “debloat” tool isn’t useful. Also, his “professional ” option removes a lot of tools actual IT professionals use and installs crap that tech enthusiasts use. For home stuff, sure I’ll use a GitHub release here and there. As a professional, I have absolutely no use for it. Also, professionals use Teams pretty universally. Slack is really used for people stuck in the past and cheap schools. We also don’t use thunderbird because it doesn’t play nicely O365. We use O365 very heavily in the professional space. Not trying to dump on dude, but he clearly has no clue what he’s doing. It’s barely a step above all the all of the custom windows xp iso back in 2005/2006. Another issue, literally nobody ever would get rid of useful tools such as the administrative tools, accessories menu, etc. these are all extremely useful for anybody who actually wants to use and own their computer.

[@RoshiGaming]

the cable bit threw me for a loop

[@The.Phoenix_]

No need to be mean, this man is putting a lot of effort and time into something he is passionate about. Let him be

[@Maplaplaplapla]

My feedbck is having Firefox set as a default browser and Ublock Origin preinstalled on it

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@Maplaplaplapla Firefox is preinstalled, yes. Including uBlock would be a great idea, however in all honesty I have no idea how to do that lol. I will look into it, thanks

[@kavve3h]

you could get librewolf since its a firefox fork with uBlock and the correct privacy sertings installed

[@exp5261]

or brave with some reg tweaks for ease of deployment

[@Talking__Ben]

​@TotallyNotK0 there's a Linux distro called XeroLinux (great distro, you should buy it), and it has Firefox preinstalled with some extensions. I don't know how it's done, but it is possible.

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@kavve3h maybe. I'll look into it

[@Purely_Andy]

at 5:44 there should probably be a "cancel" or "go back" button

[@TotallyNotK0]

Oooh, that's smart. Yes, noted

[@HayBombYT]

First time viewer here, and I really enjoyed this! While I'm tech savvy enough to do a lot of this kind of stuff other than just straight up coding, I can really appreciate this front-end your team has been working on. Whenever it does release I'll definitely be using it.

[@TotallyNotK0]

Thank you! Glad to hear

[@Roobotics]

Your presets should be nothing more than a baseline, you need options that do nothing but the debloat operations, and control of WHAT is being touched. This is way too 'flying blind' just add check boxes beside each 'recommended install' per profile for starters, and also a page for the individual debloat operations. It's fine to have an EZ mode, but folks who know tech aren't going to use it like that and therefore likely won't recommend it to others that are less savy, which is how that chain goes. It's not usually "Oh I heard this was useful, but it's not nuanced enough to be practical for me, so I never used it, but you might like it." You just need to appeal to both sides in a practical enough manner. Also of course opensource etc, access to inspect things and compile your own, all of that.

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@Roobotics will be open source of course. Also yeah I see what you mean, but this tool is really trying to focus as much as possible on the non tech savvy normies. Unfortunately this tool will likely need tech savvy individuals to compromise on some things for the sake of simplicity, however I will still definitely try to take everyone into account. Thanks

[@Roobotics]

@@TotallyNotK0 understandable, and that's very much the point I was attempting to make. Technical folks won't recommend things they haven't tested themselves more often than not, it's good to make it easy, but it has to be understood and feel safe enough that easy mode isn't going to thrash something that could be even harder for a non-technical person to undo. So just be careful not to create more problems than resolved, in what might break due to removals and possible dependencies.

[@ProtonFission]

@@TotallyNotK0 if you wanna make it for none tech savvy people. Not having 5 options with all this text is the first step. Choice fatigue is real and trying to convince your friend to pick the barebones option because all the other ones installs stuff they don’t want is annoying since now you tell them go with option 1 and they will refuse to click next until they read all other options.

[@chandrashekar316]

I really like the idea And the way the demo goofed up was hilarious bit i still am rooting for you

[@MrMasterKeyboard]

I love this program. This is so cool. Pretty much every Windows user is rejoicing! Will this be open-source in the end? Great work!!!

[@TotallyNotK0]

Yup, will be. Thanks

[@robynwessling5745]

My 3 year old laptop updated to Win 11 without my permission 2 days go. I've spent those 2 days debloating and getting it looking and acting how I want. I spent most of that time swearing at Microsoft so it was wonderful to hear someone else with the same frustrations. Keep up the great idea! Thankyou.

[@ZenithTheReborn]

I've been waiting for something like this since official Win 10 support will be ending soon. I am glad to not be disappointed.

[@falsonix-vh5qo]

this is awesome! will definitely be using this for all my new W11 installs

[@bland9876]

"they used an HDD cable on an SSD" what the heck is that supposed to mean? SATA is SATA whether you're using an SSD or an HDD

[@CansecoDev]

I believe he's referring to how Hyper-V handles virtual drives.

[@johnathanmorlock]

Pretty sweet, dude, solid work! My ONLY recommendation, since you have several apps listed under different profile options, offer up a "Custom's checkbox that allows you to select any of those apps under each profile. One and done, if you use your system for multiple profile types. For instance, need Gaming but want to add in Blender, Slack, and Chrome (didn't see Chrome on there). Regarding the spinner comment... What about a list of things to do, being worked on, and done? At least give the user some ideas as to how long it will take "7/13 tasks done", etc. Just a thought. Great job though!

[@TotallyNotK0]

That would actually be better than a spinner in my opinion, maybe even a progress bar. Noted, thanks

[@Melvin420x12]

I'm so down for this. It's crazy how bloated windows has become. Great to see someone's building a debloater. You really should not touch the looks of the system though. Just remove the bloat but don't make things dark.

[@TotallyNotK0]

I've heard this a few times. While I do believe I will be keeping that part I think, I am considering adding an option to not include that

[@WerewolfTV1]

Barebones needs to be actually Barebones. To me it looks like it's already filled by "bloatware". It's just bloatware chosen by you and not Microsoft. Can't wait for this tool to be out, amazing work! Oh, and it needs to be peer-reviewed at the minimum, and open source at best.

[@dionostando]

Exactly my point

[@RealKyariii]

This seems like a great tool, but for the Gaming configuration (you said they were all basically the same just different pre-installed apps) you should leave the Microsoft store and Xbox app on the computer, I use them daily for many games since I own a Xbox, so having these apps not be Installed to play games I already own would make the experience slightly worse. And even if someone doesnt use the Xbox app they can still uninstall it whenever they want, there should be a option to tick if you'd like to remove the Xbox app and Microsoft Store or not. Other than that this seems like a great tool to use for everyone

[@exp5261]

im not sure but i think that forza from steam still needs it so i also think it should be a toggle with a note of warning

[@RealKyariii]

@@exp5261 That's perfect, if someone wants the app they can just switch a slider and if not then not, sounds great!

[@Dvance]

When this is finished, I'm definitely going to share it with the IT shop I work with. For productivity and professionals, there should be a separate settings customizer GUI (like the one of WinUtil still present when the installation is finished) that users can toggle on and off apps, including Google Chrome, the GUI should save the settings, then the separate app to perform the actions should have no GUI, and just... do it. These two exe's and settings (likely .conf files) would hang around in a USB flash drive, or network accessible, to make the process for each computer super streamlined.

[@jpbot01]

Maybe add a custom profile? Make it saveable to a file so that I can re-run it on new systems/re-formats. I like the idea, but it just isn't granular enough for me. I'm guessing you're using winget? Maybe add an option in the custom profile for a list of winget package ids to install. I like using CCT for that but it doesn't have options for all the programs I want and it doesn't really remove a lot of the built in windows apps, just doing registry edits. Maybe a custom profile option is the best way to balance it for simplicity and granularity?

[@muff1n36]

Amazing app imo, this will definitely speed up my next laptop setup when it comes out. I'd say like something to do while your waiting would be nice, and some UI changes like some graphics and UI changes.

[@Paco8478]

4:56 I would say have some text at the bottom explaining what Raven apps are and why, just so that people don't think is a super advanced app or something like that, and also for the people that want to tinker with checkboxes (I don't want spotify lol) and advanced option would be nice!

[@TotallyNotK0]

Noted. Thanks!

[@tristenwagoner]

Probably the best debloat tool ive seen. Press and forget. Looking forward to it thank you!

[@Jakevd]

Edge gone now you dont have a browser and you cant download one

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@Jakevd Firefox comes with Talon

[@RadinWaves]

​@@TotallyNotK0 What about Brave? A Q&A would be nice

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@RadinWaves yknow what, yeah I'm going to just do a Q&A

[@igfoobar]

I remember when you needed to use FTP to download Netscape :)

[@kohimame]

You could always use winget

[@Waffle4569]

> I wanted to make a tool that debloats Windows > So the first thing I did was have every de-bloat option come bundled with software people might not want

[@snappycat360]

0:14 that has been there since windows 10 and can actually be turned off(i actually use this feature)

[@onnigamer16]

It was added to windows 10 at the same time as 11 and my background was changed to this bullshit feature without my consent when it came out

[@snappycat360]

@@onnigamer16 oh shit never new they just changed peoples backgrounds this that sucks then

[@Sam-kx7jc]

This tool looks great. Like you said Chris Titus’s tool is great for advanced users, but your tool would be perfect for everyone to make their Windows 11 experience better. One piece of feedback i would give for the tool would be to allow users to choose their Web browser, music player etc and choose how many applications you can install, instead of being locking into install everything on the list. Other than that I can’t wait to see the app evolve as it gets polished!

[@floppyiphone99]

Make a mode so you can select what programs you wanted to pre-download

[@TotallyNotK0]

Absolutely

[@kiryls1207]

you should add a progress bar to show people that some work is being done and your program isn't stuck. also, i would produce an output at the end with a comprehensive list of all the stuff that you deleted (for people who tend to panic if they don't find something anymore. in this case, you really want to make sure to the end user that nothing is irreversible). i would also generate a file output on the desktop and notify it in the app at the end of the process. some people don't know what the removed bloat was made for, so they tend to be afraid removing stuff in case "they will need it eventually, who knows". in this case you should point out the functionality of every software you removed from the system and how to reinstall it again in case they'll need it

[@wuiss__._]

Is it possible for this to work on an active system? I dont wana go through reinstalling windows and having to reinstall everything again on my pc, but i would still like it tobe debloated.

[@TotallyNotK0]

@wuiss__._ it's designed for fresh systems. Doing it on a system already in use may cause issues. Sorry :(

[@wuiss__._]

@TotallyNotK0 its okay, thank you for the answer

[@sugoidxth]

reading your replies to the valid concerns comments, seems legit. Good job, keep goin.

[@-sturmfalke-]

Is it possible to include a "custom" option where you can select the apps yourself? Also a basic hardened firefox would be nice.

[@-sturmfalke-]

BTW i would love to be a computer nerd, but I'm too stupid and never focus on anything, so I massively appreciate your work, and making it open source is a hero thing to do. If you want or need to make money you should include a way to make donations in the program, unobstrusively but easily accessible.

[@TotallyNotK0]

Yes I'll include a way to check and uncheck apps you want and don't

[@TotallyNotK0]

Thank you very much! There will be a way to donate to Raven soon, I appreciate that a lot

[@its_just_that_simple]

I imagine it will include a selection for which browser you might want to install? My choice has and always will be Brave so I don't really care to install chrome just to use it to install another browser so a checkbox for specific things or maybe selecting what you want to have installed would be nice. Love this idea keep up the good work!

[@spencerlay3318]

2:25 in defense of your grandma, Apple HAS unreasonably overcomplicated the photos app.

[@sonic_enjoyer]

fr

[@TotallyNotK0]

It's android lmaoo

[@spencerlay3318]

@@TotallyNotK0 oh rip 🤣

[@377rubel]

I think this is a cool consept, and a very useful tool. And an idea that would be great for consumers is if there was a custom mode/preset where users can chose what programs they want to install.

[@adagioleopard6415]

I'm getting excited... Does it fix the horendous search? Also does it change the right click menu so you don't have to hold in shift to get the items you want? I want this.

[@TotallyNotK0]

It brings back classic right click, yes. Also it does remove Bing from the search in the taskbar

[@adagioleopard6415]

@@TotallyNotK0 Would LOVE to support this project. I've been refusing to upgrade to win 11

[@HickoryDickory86]

If I'm not mistaken, Edge is now integrated into Windows as the local file explorer too, so there's no getting rid of it anymore.

[@oklol681]

this tool looks awesome so far! about edge still being there: one thing i do is delete the "Edge" and "EdgeUpdate" folder, and then remake them but with special permissions that make me the only person that can use that folder, including blocking the SYSTEM account and stuff. due to windows not being able to write into that folder, edge will be permanently uninstalled from the system. also it would be kind of cool if you added an option to bring back the windows 10 taskbar using explorer patcher.

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@oklol681 this is very helpful info. Thank you!

[@oklol681]

@@TotallyNotK0 no problem!

[@Chrisv_666]

i like the concept. I could personaly see my self using this in the future just cus its way easyer then all the other tools i have to do manually ;D

[@_sophies]

Haven't finished the video yet, but tbh I think to keep things as simple as possible there should only be the barebones option. I feel like in the other packages there's either too much coverage or not enough, and it'd be hard to get the right balance without a bunch of checkboxes. Cool tool though.

[@joshwa1234]

Looks like a great tool. Was going to say this - barebones + a web browser then lets the user get what they want, rather than adding software they might not need/want and then have to uninstall.

[@GamrokFeddy]

They should add a "custom" option

[@TotallyNotK0]

You make a good point. The goal with the profiles was to make it even less of a headache to get what you want, but I can see how it'd be annoying

[@dogelkek6630]

i think that a ui that's similar to ninite where you can pick quickly what you want would be awesome. Profiles could also be incorporated and autopick certain apps. Nice work !

[@_Miner]

Great idea, can't wait for an enterprise version i can use for AD deployment. Hope your gran is doing well too bud.

[@whocares6302]

rewrite better kernel? naaaaa rewrite scheluder? hmm sure i guess we need to sell arm laptops but will put more garbage to make it even. but we will just rewrite some small parts in rust so it's even more messy. I love living in 3 context operating system where the deeper i go, i go back 20 years in time.

[@crankiercoin]

i honestly think it'd be cool to keep the messages under the "installing talon" title. not only does it let the user know what it's doing, it can also give some reassurance to some users who can understand it as well. at the very least, there could be a check box to check whether or not to display the messages. overall very cool executable.

[@c2thamax246]

“Debloat your install from all the software you don’t want pre-installed” … “And here’s our software that comes pre-installed under every configuration.” 😂 doesn’t that defeat the purpose?

[@TotallyNotK0]

The difference is you are deciding which software you actually want to have. There will be a way to uncheck the ones you don't, too

[@umutcakmak3221]

I'm confused because you said it is going to debloat windows but when you open it it asks you to choose what to install? I think a debloat tool shouldn't focus on what to install next. I get that you need some new browser because you removed the edge but giving options like spotify and EA app does look unnecessary.

[@ChrisPTY507]

My feedback: - Make it FULL open source Question, any plans to make a version for Linux and macOS?

[@absolute_tk]

I don’t think macOS has any bloatwares.

[@TotallyNotK0]

It will be 100% open source. Also, there's no plans to make a MacOS or Linux variant

[@that_one_fucking_idiot]

why the FUCK would you need a windows debloater for linux?

[@garfieldblessesyouwithadri3944]

@@absolute_tk im pretty sure macOS is nowhere near the bloatiness as windows

[@eyuelzero]

I'd absolutely love an expert option where i can see (and choose) each and every single thing this app does. Theres a lot of semi-tech savvy people who find it difficult to explore the depth of these tools but still would appreciate control. 😊

[@gargamel3478]

0:56 I watch this video on Edge on Gentoo Linux, just because I can.

[@TotallyNotK0]

@gargamel3478 disgusting

[@gargamel3478]

@@TotallyNotK0 Why? I need a second web browser, and it's better than chrome.

[@grayscale2000]

I've never heard something so absurd yet possible.

[@amentherock]

Amazing work so far, although edge somehow survived, as some other users suggested, I think this would benefit from having a custom profile picker where you pick and choose what you want to do, and make it run "Bleachbit" to clean up residuals after some downloads (that is if talon currently stores files in %temp%),maybe to pass the time for the user make some messages vaguely related to what the program is doing ("Installing Firefox..." -> "Setting your foxes on fire.... "), Becausw yknow currently the user only has a black screen and text to look at, might as well 👀

[@tturmoil]

linux is free

[@chasewtir]

I use Linux but some people NEED windows for there jobs or for games like fortnight. Plus all of the troubleshooting might be to much for some one who just wants a add free experience

[@chasewtir]

With that being said Linux doesn’t cost $130

[@buck_et]

Me when dualbooting:

[@chasewtir]

@@buck_et :

[@chasewtir]

@@buck_et fair enough

[@kwaggs]

super pumped for the day this releases. my pc is growing obsolete by todays standards so getting rid of the bloat will be HUGE

[@aqwek]

Honestly at this point I feel like you'd be happier on Linux.

[@TotallyNotK0]

@@aqwek no

[@94todd]

I love it - one thing I would like to see is the weird snapshot thing that windows 11 does where they store screenshots/data of what you're doing periodically. Some actual privacy would be sick.

[@jakedean22]

I loved this video, as someone who has spent hours on registry tweaks and group policy... this was great.

[@BigBelt_]

This is a really cool project! It would be cool if you could invoke a pre-install script, in OOBE, that does ``bypassnro`` and grabs the install for talon. Maybe you could even create a local admin account through the script w/ the``net user`` so the user doesn't have to sit through the (awfully slow) windows 11 OOBE process. Either way, I'm really excited to see the future of this project!

[@markuszeller_official]

I like how it cleans up, but I would like it to be an extra option to install "expert" tools. Also a progress indicator would be very nice.

[@Armaxton]

great idea! i'd only recommend making the UI changes optional, and probably having a version without your software, just a browser and the basic apps.

[@DesperateKirby]

Here’s what I think you should add: Add a custom preset with checkboxes Don’t change stuff like the taskbar alignment or taskbar colour. (Customisation) Other than that great job!

[@MigProPlayer]

I would like to see a custom preset feature, where you can fiddle with checkboxes just one time, and then just import that profile on every system. It could also be used to create custom profiles for friends and relatives, and just tell them to import it and click go.

[@_MrNoob]

For feedback, I think it would be useful to have an option for a "Custom" download experience where you can just check all the apps that you want pre-installed, saving some extra time so you wouldn't need to find them with a browser. Also, I think it might be worthwhile to change the name of the shortcut of the program to "talon (you can remove this now)" upon the program being executed and completed, since it's unlikely that it'll be used again after startup. Nice program.

[@RadinWaves]

I'm not a programmer, but I think it would be possible to automatically remove the shortcut of an app that no longer exists

[@Ad4m-cooks]

Such a good video! Please release it! ( Also you gained a sub) (Also Also when you realese this plz add an option to customize what i want to install because a lot of people dont like ea play or need an emulator)

[@ImRousev]

You should add an option for fully barebones with no pre-installed apos at all, other than maybe a browser

[@texastyphun]

Honestly this looks great...slap on some progress tracking and shove it in the shadiest looking flashdrive you got homie...I'll take it!

[@berkaithedumdum]

great tool and it really makes me happy that you guys used CTT's utility. and i have a suggestion. edge removal should be an user choice. because sometimes edge's absence might break stuff. like webview and such.. which is powertoys benefits from. i corrupted my edge installation and it broke the webview either. couldn't manage the fix the edge but manually installed webview and totally a waste of time. anyway, great tool and want to see it's imrpovement!

[@cassiuscartland]

I like it but Spotify dosent need to be included under gaming, I don’t even use Spotify and the majority of people won’t use it on a gaming pc. Also, make sure you keep ms store installed for the gaming preset, a lot of games rely on it being installed e.g. among us, MSFS, RL/Fortnite, Minecraft and many more

[@zngods]

Hey there is no critism or shi but i have s important thing to say which many devs dont realize including myself. While we run those kind of programs, they are running but while you are connected to the wi fi, outlook. Linkdein etch WILL install, no matter what. Even a restart or a update may bring it back. My idea is to leave a txt file that shows base installed apps so everyone can delete the not base installed and not self installed apps, or a exe file that basically deletes specific apps, not like keep only base apps cuz this would delete our own installed apps, but a app that as example uses appxpackage from windows itself and uses the target system so u can include specific apps („xbox;MicrosoftEdge;MicrosoftTeams“) etc Also about why edge isnt uninstalled, apparently edge got a new path which as example christitustool dont know, it will debloat the old path but edge remains due its new path. Also for the new path u need good permissions

[@GameJam230]

It COULD be nice to have an option to let people make “custom” profiles that they can use to automatically install specific applications of their choosing, but to avoid complications with users that aren’t tech savvy, I’d say you should just make it a command line tool where you can run it with a path to a profile file to install it. It’d just be designed for people who need to set up several systems but without complicating the process for normal people. Although, if I had to guess, I’m sure software already exists to do what I’m saying, and experienced individuals likely already use it.

[@slightlyinsaneraf]

The edge still being there actually cracked me up 😂

[@skullgamer727aka.nk2z]

I love the Idea of this but I think you should get the option to choose which of the programms you want to install and which ones you don't need.