I Mastered Bison To See If He's As Cheap As Everyone Thinks

[@slaw1990]

The horse taught Bison how to move across one side of the stage to the other in a single drive rush

[@donpcmartin]

🏇🏃‍♂️💨😂😂😂😂

[@JayFlacko]

He ran after that horse to tame him, that’s how he got that fast. That’s what I hear at least 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@solitudegaming]

Man got that HORSEPOWER

[@wowb1965]

Bison is 100% a pay to win character. You have to pay to be able to win with him. you’ll never win as bison if you don’t have him 🧠

[@bradleyjenkins1000]

True 😂

[@thesaltmerchant4564]

Oh ho but you can rent him check mate atheist

[@mr.gamingz]

That's so smart

[@stefanbraidwood2007]

By the same logic he is pay to lose, you can’t lose with him unless you pay to do so

[@chaserobbins5689]

You can rent Brodie 😂😂 I got a win with him before I brought him

[@RitzScythe]

his final combo trial teaches you how to do 80% of ryus health bar

[@AdversaryOne]

So, his scissor kick is basically SFV Balrog's dash punch which was -4 but could very easily be spaced out of punish range for a lot of the cast. Oh yeah but it's even better because it's not a charge move...

[@loneone559]

and if he counter hits you with it he gets a combo

[@Evilj82]

I remember quitting SFV when Balrog came out. Did not want to deal with easy mode characters. It is so easy to counter hit confirm and punish counter confirm bisons scissor kick as well.

[@LaztheLax]

To be fair, the only difference now is his Scissor Kick isn't charged anymore.....but Bison has already had spacing with scissors for quite some time, has had scissor kicks from counter hits for some time, and to me isn't the cheapest thing ever. Genuinely Bison has better normals on block in previous versions of the game (SF4AE). His Scissor Kick (L) version was also -1 on block in that version too. His SF 5 version had worse scissor kicks compared to 4's too, and that required more spacing just like this versions does. You were only positive on EX Scissors there. Not to mention 5's version had good normals too along with moves like Psycho Blast that could position you that much better with it's small push. This game you can punish all versions of Scissor with CLp if he doesn't space correctly, idk wtf anyone is really complaining about. If it's damage I can't really see that either, the whole cast can do damage with these new mechanics. This is just me coming from SF4AE mostly though. Played quite a lot of Bison in that version and just a bit in 5 but never owned the system to play 5 on. Imo He is awesome currently especially the Scissor change, and the new mechanics allowing more free movement. I wouldn't say broken or OP though.

[@biolt90]

stop crying he is great hope no nerfs

[@AdversaryOne]

@@biolt90 Bison main, confirmed. 🤣 Don't worry, I was a Nash main in all of SFV so I understand the fear.

[@RedRiotRoss]

Absolutely spitting on the horse complaint

[@AdversaryOne]

"Mr. phone why are you late coming back from lunch??" "I've been cooking with Bison!"

[@Diaphone]

Chill the run was sub one hour loool

[@Invader_Hex]

@@Diaphone wasn't it 7 minutes over an hour? lol

[@Diaphone]

@@Invader_Hex the second portion lol

[@Khemith_Demon_Hours]

Yeah it's almost as if they gave Bison all the top tier tools: fast DR. Low forward DRC. Two plus on block moves. It's not like Capcom made sure to buff the season 1 DLC characters to viability while Honda, Manon, Lily, Jamie ate shit.

[@juice6521]

They gave Jamie some stuff, so I can't complain too much. He's at least in a better spot than he was before.

[@justjunker699]

Lily is top 3 cancer of the game , u don’t know what your talking about

[@cronosdimitri4584]

u forgetting one of the best top tier tools that bison does not have: wakeup dp

[@abdulhammouda4884]

Well bar an invincible reversal and fireball he can drive rush behind.

[@johnnymo4000]

He has no DP or Command grab, so I wouldn't say he has all the top tier stuff.

[@rubberonasphalt]

Why does every second youtube video I watch has the "aww dangit" sound effect. I thought I had another tab open or something

[@doctorshakey8072]

As a Kimberly main, I have no idea wtf to do against this character.

[@cothrone3651]

PREPARE!!!

[@whathitwonder4037]

Same fam. Hang in there.

[@NicholasBray-i6z]

As a Guile main I also have no idea what to do against this character.

[@5milemacc737]

Set play homie

[@axeoseilez3207]

Even me as a gief main fears bison. But thats because I'm a diamond not a legend or master. I'm sure higher level giefs will be just fine

[@ectothermic]

He's pretty cool. Happy he's back in the roster, and I'm glad he's got all this aggressive gameplay but very few if any reliable reversal tools. Each DLC character has a "thing" and his is aggression and damage but when you push back he's done for.

[@Azteck9]

Man I had to fight you and Brian F's Bison back to back. Bad day to try Lily out lmao. Ggs

[@Diaphone]

lol, GGs

[@Bassoid]

"The crouching medium kick is ret... I mean really strong..."

[@AdamJorgensen]

Almost 8k? Yeech, Manon in tears XD

[@trippersigs2248]

Why Manon specifically?

[@AdamJorgensen]

@@trippersigs2248 Because she already struggles to do damage and is widely considered the one of the worst, if not the worst characters in the game at this point (In no part due to her receiving largely meaningless buffs in S2). Truth hurts 😕

[@betweenbrothers6458]

The short answer “yes”.

[@iamkazuki830]

1 hour of M. Bison gameplay with Diaphone wearing a dad shirt is all I needed to end my week. Ty!

[@chinad34th]

That video was really nice, thanks Dia!

[@arpadszabo661]

I always mained Bison so i was pretty sad that he wasn’t base roster, but now i’m happy he’s dlc lol. Obviously they don’t want these characters to be weak because they need to sell, but i also think that it helps that they are only making 4 a year, so they can go ham with designing them. Some characters from the base roster screams “i wasn’t high priority during development”

[@TheGreektrojan]

Biggest issue with SF6's roster right here. Half the base roster feels underbaked vs. this DLC. Biggest disappointment with the big patch is that no one really got a meaningful rework.

[@tcole2475]

@@TheGreektrojan The fact that somebody like Cammy who’s arguably underbaked in S1 was undeniably top 5 shows the truth in this comment

[@ocoro174]

who wasn't high priority? 🥰🤙

[@watchmesquatch]

He's boring and broken. A horrible combination. He makes the game worse.

[@arpadszabo661]

@@watchmesquatch Well that’s a garbage take

[@gamerx112]

I just think theres something powerful yet comical that Bison locks in and just sprints palms open during his drive rush

[@youtooberman9001]

me to my friend who instantly switched mains: " I think this is the 1st character in this game that is objectively OP" him crushing me 40 times in a custom room: " wym?"

[@FLYEboi50]

T_T had a feeling our match would get uploaded lol Ggs, I keep forgetting that drive reversal punish is 6 frames and not 8 frames anymore.

[@briancapps7593]

that chun li with the 500 wake up reversals.. jesus.

[@IchBinFreierGeist]

They were conditioning for “surely they don’t go for another dp” dp lmao

[@dragonman1579]

He low key is

[@butteredtoast3032]

@@dragonman1579 there is nothing low key on how broken he is, and people thought akuma was broken

[@pretzels7437]

​@@butteredtoast3032akuma is broken, that man is ken on steroids

[@heavens_best1905]

​@@pretzels7437Ngl Im pretty sure top 3 is akuma, ken, and bison

[@badtzkoala8345]

Def not low key, 😭

[@VerbalLearning]

If they won't give Bison a horse based special move or super, then they should at the very least add his horse to the bull knockdown minigame as an alternative to the bull.

[@Lepogans]

When you mentioned Aki having the most recovery in the game on her fireball, I was skeptical because I had not touched aki at all, just my experiences playing against her as JP (50f for JP instead of 52 for Aki). Something felt wrong about that statement because of the amount of times I've been punished by aki for trying to counter her fireball with level 3, so I picked her up and I didn't know that aki gets to special cancel her fireball after 17f. So technically you do have the option to OD slither (236KK) under the psycho crusher as a counter-reaction if youre not like literally right in front of him. Still tho Bison is clearly ridiculous, and as a JP player, I'm not exactly excited to deal with it either...

[@betweenbrothers6458]

How do you beat Bison? With Bison. This character is cracked.

[@sleepydan9818]

How is Terry's Crackshoot going to compete with Scissor Kick?

[@FRIONIELASTRALIS]

we’re cooked

[@Jarrych83]

I'm finding it really interesting how resource heavy he is but just how big the payoff can be. Not the best defense, but for a setup pressure character, it's pretty wild how well it all works.

[@Jorgec224]

Grateful we getting patches more often now

[@fobo3361]

Bison's cheap? Bro are you guys deaf, he literally coaches the opponent "No escape" "Prepare" "Its over" He literally couldn't make it any easier for you to know what comes next 😂

[@cylondorado4582]

I’m surprised about scissor kicks, since it seems like most of the other moves they changed to have easier inputs (like Honda Hands) were changed pretty much how you’d think they would be.

[@marks2053]

People say that he does good damage but depends on his drive meter too much. It’s actually not really true, what’s is great is that it’s always an option not required. The guy can literally throw out 3 EX moves and a level 3 in a combo. You don’t have to, but it’s great that you can decide to whenever you land a combo.

[@mikehunt9884]

damn the smaller package is 250 coins, not enough to buy a character, got to get the 600 package, and its 15$ here in canada. I had a few rentals so i was able to try him out, i breezed through his combo trials, bison is pretty damn legit, his combos were pretty easy to do too.. i think he's as OP as guile. Probably even more OP.. Akuma and Bison are super strong right now.

[@darkshadow8827]

You could just buy the 250 pack twice it’s cheaper

[@watchmesquatch]

​@@darkshadow8827still getting scammed either way.

[@lawyerman2408]

Hikaru vs #3 Bison demonstrated how difficult playing against that character is. Yet at the same time that match showed how to control him and keep him in check. I want to see how the character will change in time.

[@Vanity0666]

I've been finding success in just putting extreme pressure on Bison for the whole match because he doesn't really have any reversal options outside of level 3

[@itaiophir3830]

Idk if ill call him cheap, im too broke for the character pass

[@FidoHusky]

Bison should be op in his prime one could fuck with him and as a middle age'd dictator it took a prime guile, ryu and ken to take him down only for him to return

[@iamfiefo]

21:02 Bison: BRR-ERK!

[@oklimbo]

The question marks on the intro really caught me idk why

[@RyanMay-uo9fz]

Still don’t understand the switch away from a charge for scissor kick. I feel like it was understood that the charge was the main thing keeping Bison’s game nuanced and fun

[@charlieharrington9555]

Modern controls can’t have 2 charge inputs in the same direction

[@RyanMay-uo9fz]

@@charlieharrington9555 ah, makes sense. Wish they could’ve figured out a way to bind it to something else tho

[@charlieharrington9555]

@@RyanMay-uo9fz yeah same

[@Duvoncho]

1:13 I thought EX Headbutt was x2 invuln as well?

[@Duvoncho]

Hang on, I'm probably thinking of the lvl 2 head ram, never mind me.

[@axellis8333]

I'm really curious to hear, aside from DI how is everyone dealing with scissor kicks?

[@nekomekoplays]

I neutral jump it sometimes

[@Vanity0666]

Blocking and letting them space themselves out, or just spend the bar for drive reversal

[@GameSlayer91]

Akuma and MBison really need to be toned down, (arguably Rashid and Ken too), but man these 2 are just laughing in the face of balance right now. Honestly the least happy I've been with SF6 since launch to the point I might just have to take a break until the game gets toned down, or leave if it doesn't

[@charlieharrington9555]

This really just sounds like a get guud post. Dreamhack had 8 different characters in the top 8, this is probably the most balanced the game has ever been

[@watchmesquatch]

​​@@dylzpBrain rot, zero thoughts.

[@watchmesquatch]

​@@charlieharrington9555brain rot, dumb thoughts.

[@charlieharrington9555]

@@watchmesquatch you sound like a redditor

[@LeeZard27]

I'm also thinking about taking a break until they address this balancing fuckery. I'm a Guile main, and I've never been made to look so sorry. Aside from how I despise what they did to the character since the Beta changes prior to release and now season 2, I could somewhat manage. Against the likes of Akuma at least I was able to get some reasonable win some lose some toss ups. This shit head here is another dimention of trollish shenanigans.

[@riffcrypt8438]

If your opponent plugged when you got them in that scissor meaty loop I really wouldn't have blamed them lmao

[@DrSwazz]

Why does Bison's idle stance look so weird? Like, what's he doing with his hands lol

[@cosmic5665]

Hes got a twinge in his right arm so it's wrapped in stuff

[@watchmesquatch]

​@@cosmic5665it's dumb looking. 😂

[@Vanity0666]

It's similar to his old sf2 idle and walking animation where he jerks off the air

[@devastatingdemon4542]

Damn, you could've plugged in some good ol' granblue during that intro to bait the normies 😂

[@keylimecookies]

Bro is not gonna sugarcoat it

[@Kasaaz]

I think they need to give him the wider throw box that Honda and Blanka have. I see so many people whiffing throws that seem like they should be in range. It’s because of that super wide stance, I think.

[@blinktgaming]

I think generally if you are a solid player with good foundational knowledge of fighting games, you’re gonna be in the best position to take any new character to Master rank on launch simply due to the fact that the majority of your opponents you’ll face to get there are Diamond players - these are for the most part, non-tournament players and still pretty casual and won’t bother to learn the frame data or the character matchup during the first few weeks. This creates tons of wins off fake pressure or gimmicks that one wouldn’t get away with later on in the character’s lifecycle. TL;DR, I don’t think any character is P2W. It’s still ultimately player skill and taking advantage of an undeveloped meta during the critical period of a character’s launch.

[@Shakenbake-in9ux]

Until you watch somebody climb to legend spamming scissor kick lmao

[@blinktgaming]

@@Shakenbake-in9ux the difference though is you can’t derank from master once you hit it (which is why trying to climb early when a character is new is beneficial) but Legend you have to maintain through wins. Even if by some chance scissor kick spam could get you to legend, it won’t keep you there in the long run.

[@FlyingKing8]

@@blinktgamingIt literally did happen, I think it was Kakeru got to top 100 legends using almost only scissor kicks

[@blinktgaming]

@@FlyingKing8 well firstly, that’s Kakeru. So few people perform at that level. Second, like I said, that’s working now considering how new Bison is in the meta. Doubtful anyone, even Kakeru, will maintain legend ranking by simply spamming scissor kicks. If it were that simple, reply to this message after Kakeru wins evo finals next year only spamming scissor kicks.

[@Luke-un5oz]

Ryu has basically nothing to respond with to scissor kick. Our jab is too short to hit you most of the time, we're too far away to grab, and anything else is too slow. The only relatively consistent way I've been able to do is OD shoryu. So for ryu, he can't take his turn because there is no turn to take lol

[@Lazergician]

Diaphone extremely important question: what was that desktop whiteboard, because that looks useful as fuck

[@Diaphone]

Just google low profile whiteboard, they are like $20 and super useful for quick notes lol

[@Lazergician]

@@Diaphone my goat

[@outplayboy]

56:06 was kinda sick actually

[@acube771]

Marisa low light punch hits him after scissors block. I thought it was universal. The fuck

[@acube771]

Of courses if they did not space it correctly

[@IcyTorment]

The absence of Psycho Trample is, indeed, a major omission.

[@jamgUNoh]

checking scissor kicks is god awful, im honestly glad his defense options are not as good as the rest of his kit

[@androtaz2621]

Please. Psycho Horse is too dignified to be used in battle. Did you see Bipson even braids his mane?

[@GodlikeJCMS]

Im sure if they make scissor kick a charge move itll balance the character a bit (dmg and corner carry are a whole other issue). Not sure why capcom is obsessed with oversimplifying characters just to make an "easy to get into" game

[@sandythamtono2081]

"This character is for babies"

[@tilting_cat3344]

Scrissor Kick is Honda Headbutt 2.0(some guy i met in Battlehub)

[@betweenbrothers6458]

That kick is worse than Hondas headbutt. That kick comes tax free with no penalties it gives all the pushback to slap 👋 you again.

[@tilting_cat3344]

@@betweenbrothers6458 why you think i write 2.0 lol it's new and improved

[@betweenbrothers6458]

@@tilting_cat3344lol

[@cenglish7240]

I'd play around everything Bison has if he didn't have that bomb. He gets that on you and neutral is no longer neutral.

[@hann8103]

should nickname Dictaphone for the Bison arc ;)

[@hidoryy]

27:56 I thought someone challenged me in fightcade LMAO

[@wolverinex8330]

Haven't finished yet, but Bison infuriates me on a such a large and extremely specific scale I genuinely want to make each bison player bit a curb Gears style (I gotta leave Cammy and Guile out otherwise I'll be here all day) Bison ALONE is straight off the rip given absurd Guest character privilege with a move set that barely has anything less than -4 on block, AUTO SPACING ON HALF THE FUCKING MOVES, 8k easy optimal damage combo that spits in the face of Manon and Marisa specifically, crazy normals with a block string that makes Ryu's hashogeki chain look like a joke, and I'm just not even going to try to mention the absolute bullshit that is his air special with how it can auto cross-up... yes he doesn't have wake up reversal, nor a command grab or a fireball, but he clearly doesn't need that for anyone with minimal hands to be outperforming damn near everyone within the first month he was released Fuck Bison, fuck Dee Jay, and fuck Guile (I purely used this as a ranting space because I am mad and just want to blow off steam, I respect all the players, but not the characters so I gotta learn that mf'n matchup QUICK)

[@V1TOCHIN]

Can we get a how to beat bison video please

[@1000Tomatoes]

The textures just don't look great on the classic costume. Especially the metal bits. They look like avatar outfit quality.

[@charlieharrington9555]

It’s a specific kind of fabric

[@watchmesquatch]

​​@@charlieharrington9555😂 yeah, the metal is a specific type of fabric. Suuuure.

[@charlieharrington9555]

@@watchmesquatch I was referring to the fabric that he was complaining about the textures of, obviously. No need to be a smartass

[@Kasaaz]

Looks like cosplay.

[@WrathofGuldan]

Low level Warcraft warrior.

[@lilpoetat]

Thanks 🎉

[@NamelessThun]

you need to turn off the gamblecore soundbit for a YT video, its really doesn't fit in timing a single time and it's quite annoying

[@CasteHappy]

Normally, we have separate audio tracks for game audio, mic and desktop audio, but Dia's power went out and the recording was lost. So had to use the twitch vod for the first couple of matches so we couldn't really do anything about it, sorry!

[@IchBinFreierGeist]

Bisons design makes me want to come back to SF6 😅

[@JinJinJinJinJinJinJinJinJinJin]

Zero mention of Beatrix in the opening, huh? Your check is in the mail, lol

[@BrotherCheng]

M. Bison / Akuma are pay to win because you have to pay just to lab against them. For things like the scissor kicks you *have* to lab to be able to handle them and that means you have to pay for the DLC even if you don't really want to play as Bison.

[@Kasaaz]

They underestimated how much better motion Scissors would be, I think.

[@Kasaaz]

Charge makes a huge difference.

[@Vanity0666]

Modern controls is right there though

[@Kasaaz]

@@Vanity0666 You still have to charge with Modern. I know this is surprising.

[@k-ondoomer]

This character is so obviously overturned its hilarious, akuma at least had some element of risk due to his clown hp, capcom has to sell the dlc character Even diaphone who is a huge fence sitter and plays it safe with this takes wants to say he is pay to win

[@al8704]

BRO said he's pay to win and literally lost first round ICANT

[@Beastmode-db2wn]

I fear for Mai’s eventual release

[@planexshifter]

I’ll release when Mai arrives!

[@j-don5228]

I'll arrive when Release mai's

[@cageman301]

Capcom's really gonna make me play with one hand

[@karthusjack6857]

I wish to see bison in competitive level. In most games he's average, except for that version of street fighter 2, where psycho crusher is a cheap move. Alpha 3 forward he has always been just ok. Maybe if weren't for street fighter V, where he's more powerfull.

[@naddydatty]

Raoh alt costume, when?

[@javiergiandinotto1053]

Bison is Dee Jay for x2 in season 1

[@cagethelonewolf]

Something nice about players being able to beat master ranked players simply by pressing buttons without any resl combos

[@YolkyPokey]

I actually feel like Bison is Marisa on steroids, and scissor kicks is superman punch, on steroids, haha.

[@LoftyXsWaGX34]

As long as the scissor kick isn’t as good as his sf4 version, I won’t complain

[@somerandomhandonapieceofpa6792]

I have horrible news bud

[@LoftyXsWaGX34]

@@somerandomhandonapieceofpa6792 ain’t no way bruh 😭😭

[@watchmesquatch]

It's better. He can now walk forwards and do it.

[@jesterthenecromancer4569]

I mean the damage is insane but i still have fun with him.

[@14zrobot]

Green Bison feels like Captain Planet

[@RuneRaged]

Bison on a Horse = Steel Ball Run but Street Fighter

[@1000Tomatoes]

I wonder who has a good match up against him

[@LettuceGod1]

Bison dead ass feels like a ggst character in sf6. He’s so anime with his braindead scissor kick and OD damage 😂

[@ApparentlyJade]

How the duck do you punish this guy?!

[@Haplano]

The thing that surprised me the most was that Diamond 4 modern Ken..How is that guy Diamond 4?! Really, i am nobody here because i am Gold 3 but i feel like i could be that guy no problem...

[@someaccount5200]

Tfw bison is so strong he broke your power

[@Klookko]

I really wish Bison's horse could be in the CA somehow. Also costume 2 kinda looks like bad cosplay in 6 lmao

[@sawyersimpkins9428]

He is busted though. Name one flaw, I'll wait.

[@thefatcat7938]

Bad defense options. Easy to zone out. Bison has always been a character who pressures you. Bison has a very hard time getting his turn but once he has it it's easy to keep.

[@sawyersimpkins9428]

@@thefatcat7938 he has a level 1 reversal. Coupled with the wakeup drive reversal his defense options aren't that bad, he just doesn't have a DP. On top of that, block into jab x stomp is a free way to get out of the corner if the opponent isn't absolutely on their toes. He is not easy to zone out lol he has psycho crusher, ex psycho crusher, and stomp. AND lvl 2. He does not have a hard time getting his turn when ex psycho crusher is safe with little recovery, regular psycho goes through 1 hit fireballs, devil's rise options are varied and safe, save for air-to-air options and DPs. He's a monster. I only addressed what you brought up, but on top of that he has crazy damage and some of the best set-play in the game.

[@Demon09-_-]

wow that T_F_flore must be in your same town lol 9-12ms is crazy low

[@LeeZard27]

I'm convinced Capcom is trolling us...

[@ocoro174]

lilbro he been out for 12 hours 💀

[@rageofsweets]

5:24 don't think i've seen m bison run since capcom vs snk 2, kinda horrifying tbh

[@godhandz4669]

6:59 Lets pretend A.K.I is strong? Is he trolling or downplaying?

[@NycroLP]

Bison made me uninstall lol

[@watchmesquatch]

Yeah. I'll be playing Tekken 8 and DNF Duel Survival mode until they tone this BS down.

[@mistasinista86]

The game was dead when akuma (82% vs rate) was added, now is deader

[@stillsorrow]

​@@watchmesquatchHell yeah, go play Tekken with more cheesest characters)

[@eebbaa5560]

i still maintain that bison is a wasted slot but at least his new design looks cooler than before. elena waiting room though

[@kenshin391]

Does anyone play on a PS5 controller and is struggling? I mean holy shit I can barley get out Bison's Psycho crusher. I'm stuck at Diamond 2 because this controller d-pad feels to tuff. Does anyone know of an adapter you can get to use a PS4 controller on this game?

[@jamestrombone6613]

Brooks wingman for PS5

[@watchmesquatch]

Brook adapter

[@kenshin391]

@@jamestrombone6613Thank you very much

[@mistasinista86]

Same as sfv, bison and akuma, I am only fighting them.....

[@MeH0y]

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