I Might Be Quitting Redington Fly Rods...

[@richarde1355]

at 2:35 you snapped the rod on the limb you snagged behind you. Sorry man, but it's not rod problems, it's user error.

[@RoadandReel]

Nice try Richard, if that is your really name. That sounds like something Redington would say... And you can clearly watch it snap coming out of the water when I set the hook on that giant fish. I once uprooted a 150 year old oak tree with my Echo Carbon XL.

[@richarde1355]

@@RoadandReel been fly fishing probably more years than your age, broken my share of fly rods, and…yours appears to be user error.

[@wohltemper]

@@RoadandReel If you hooked that giant fish, where is it? At 2.33 you are winding in slack on your reel (why?) and the line is floating towards you. At 2.34 the line is still drifting towards you but you pull so hard to the left you broke your rod.

[@paulobainz1210]

Quite possibly, be that as it may, that’s why warranties exist. This ends up being a warranty problem

[@RoadandReel]

@@paulobainz1210 Yeah and that's actually the issue here. They are lacking in the warranty service area.

[@shaneewell7404]

I own 4 classic trout fly rods. Love them. They are just fun to cast with the slower action as compared to most rods on the market. I think they are a tremendous value for the money. However I look at them as disposable in the sense that they are so inexpensive to purchase vs messing around with packaging, shipping, waiting, etc...Buy another one or two and keep fishing. Thanks for the video.

[@RoadandReel]

Yeah, this is a good mindset. They are a great rod for the money and I've seen them used for under $100. I might just buy a few used ones and use my old ones for spare sections. I don't want to be wasteful, but it's hard to fish without a rod. Thanks for the insight!

[@Bovined.]

Ah this explains a lot, when people say they broke a rod "just setting the hook on a fish" they really mean they set the hook too hard, the line flew behind them and they hooked a tree and the rod broke because they tried to cast while hung up in a tree. Genuinely thank you, I've always wondered how reviews on rods vary so much 1 person says theyve caught 1000lb fish on it and the next says it broke while casting I see now.

[@RoadandReel]

Happy to help! And to be fair, it's not about the rod breaking. It's about the customer service. It took 1 year to get that rod replaced. My fishing habits and tree snags haven't changed and I've never broken any other rod besides my Redingtons. I own 22 fly rods and I've broken 4 Redingtons. Take that for what it's worth or don't. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comment. They both help grow this channel.

[@Bovined.]

@@RoadandReel I am taking it into account, the first part of my comment may have been sarcastic but I really did mean the thank you for this information. Was just about to pull the trigger on a reddington field kit but because of your video along with others I've researched some other brands feel like reddington might not really be what it seems, their warranty is basically a bait, while other companies are no questions asked just send us $30. I do see a lot of reviews on stores (for conventional gear) that just shock me when they say they broke the rod on 1 fish or "Casting" but ive fished with the same gear for years. Starting to get into fly fishing now, living in colorado its kind of hard not to, I've started to stray towards a cheap combo just to learn and get comfy so I dont tear up something nice then upgrade when I feel experienced in fly casting. Its hard when you grew up in TX and knew hundreds of anglers but not a single fly angler. Might start with a wild water combo with the CNC 85mm reel its only $135 probably good enough to learn

[@Bovined.]

9ft 5wt for trout and maybe a couple smallies, if I like it I might pick up something bigger for pike

[@MY_OUTDOORS.]

The abuse I put my gear through, including my 3wt classic trout. I never had a single issue.

[@RoadandReel]

@@MY_OUTDOORS. How old is your rod? I had my 3wt for almost 15 years before it broke and now it seems to break every year.

[@BrokenandCoastal]

Broke the tip on my Classic Trout last year and still can't buy a tip. Also Customer service is MIA. I only by Echo rods now. There customer service is amazing.

[@RoadandReel]

@@BrokenandCoastal I have a classic trout sitting on my workbench right now. I broke.the section before the tip and my only choice is to send it in for a new rod. I've been waiting for production and quality control to catch up. I love my Echo rods!

[@jasonpayne8960]

Out of principle I would never buy another Redington if I had as much trouble as you've had. I am an Echo man, any issues I have had with their rods they've dealt with super fast, and no shipping anything back to them. I'm back on the water in less than 2 weeks from break to replacement piece showing up at my door.

[@RoadandReel]

I hear you. I love all my Echo stuff. I couldn't imagine being a guide and having to wait around and deal with Redington's customer service.

[@emilianoguillen2666]

I had 2 classic trouts one in 3 weight and one in 4 weight for the last 5 years. Caught lots of fish. One of my favorite rods all time. Love the action for small medium streams.

[@RoadandReel]

I didn't have any issues for almost 10 years and my old models were nearly bulletproof. I'm thinking it's just these newer models that are having issues and I'm hoping enough people will speak up so they fix it. I'll update on the quality of the new rods I get back. Thanks for your input!

[@TheBigE_556]

Trying to find my first rod thought this was the one but not enough actual reviews with good information. Thanks man.

[@RoadandReel]

Check out Echo Carbon XL or TFO. Great rods and customer service and the price isn't too bad either.

[@sevenunder29]

Curious.... was it purchased/manufactured during Covid?

[@RoadandReel]

Yeah, actually. 🤔 I had a run of four broken rods in two years.

[@TomWatanabe-l8e]

I snapped CT386 at the tip section as well. I rarely use 3 weight so pretty sure I did not do anything wrong that makes the rod to break. Redington told me that it would take months to repair it, so I upgraded to Trace in the same configuration. I prefer CT to Trace and regret upgrading....

[@RoadandReel]

I absolutely love my CT, but I've snapped it 3 times...it's broken again on my workbench and I don't know what I'm going to do.

[@RyanPingo-hz5fo]

I like Redington products but two out of the three Rods I’ve broken have been Redingtons. One brand new just casting.

[@RoadandReel]

I broke my last one just securing the fly to the reel seat. It's sitting on my workbench and I'm debating whether or not to send it in. It broke on the 2nd section so I can't even order another section. That's 4 for me now...

[@seanerichumphreys5253]

I had a similar problem with a Daiwa spinning rod. It took quite a few months (Covid & issues with ships and the shipping industry) pushed me outside of the warranty but after some pleading I got a fair replacement price. 🤷🏼‍♂️A little disheartening but could’ve been worse. Oh, apparently they do some expert Analysis of the actual break to see what happened. But but that was irrelevant due to time.

[@WildernessMedic]

Idk if you broke it or not. But I can say in over 20 years I've only lost two rods to friends closing them in their doors. Until Yesterday... A brand new Lamson randomly had the tip fly off in the first few casts. I didn't even have a fish on it.

[@RoadandReel]

@@WildernessMedic a Lamson huh? I've been looking at their rods. Have you fished with any other Lamsons?

[@WildernessMedic]

@@RoadandReel No I haven't. My buddy broke my rod last week so I was shopping for a new one. The guy raved about how good they were and how they cast like a $1000 rod. Then it broke. Wish I had more time with it but that's all I got.

[@RoadandReel]

@@WildernessMedic check out Echo Fly Rods. They're one of my favorites And they cast really well. They seem pretty bulletproof. Good thing is Lamson is a pretty stand up company and they usually answer the phone, but that still sucks.

[@umiboi]

I chose to try a moonshine rod over the classic trout last year. I like it a lot.

[@RoadandReel]

Any regrets? I have a Moonshine rod in 8WT and I haven't had any issues. I like the extra tips they come with.

[@umiboi]

@@RoadandReel not in the slightest. Haha My brother has a classic trout and I think I prefer the moonshine Still. The extra tip is a bonus for me lol

[@richpaul6806]

Honestly though, for the money those maxcatch rods arent too bad.

[@RoadandReel]

They're a great rod to begin with IF you can get one sized properly.

[@richpaul6806]

@@RoadandReel I have one as my backup. I dont trout fish enough to justify 2 decent rods (maybe once or twice a year on vacation, no trout in FL) but im also not going out without a backup just in case.

[@RoadandReel]

@@richpaul6806 yeah, I just did a rafting trip and my reel failed. I should have had a backup, but I left it in the truck. Luckily it happened towards the end of the trip.

[@richpaul6806]

@@RoadandReel yep. I keep a cheap piscifun sword in my bag too. Again, id rather put money in my main rod for something not used often (I have a decent salt backup) but you need something just in case

[@geraldskinner63]

Yeah..Sage is the only way to go. Great customer service. Time for a guitar video?? What are those? Can’t see from here. Very nice set up! I’ve been playing for 45 years now.

[@RoadandReel]

I agree, but my buddy just got the Sage R8 last here and snapped it and it was the same runaround for warranty work, so you can't win for losing. One guitar is a Yamaha the other is a Fender. There a concert Uke and another soprano up there. I've been playing for 20 years, but I'm still not very good, lol. Just enough to strum along anymore. I used to be better, but that was back when I was trying to impress some girl or something and I played all the time. 😁

[@geraldskinner63]

@@RoadandReel I hear ya! I'm more of a noodler these days but played in garage bands and church. I am getting the itch to get back into though. Thanks for sharing!

[@menotyou816]

And I was just looking at that rod too. Maybe I'll keep looking

[@RoadandReel]

I have an Echo Carbon XL in a 2WT and 6WT and love them both. It's about $30 or so extra, but I haven't had any issues with them. The next price point is probably the Orvis Clearwater or something similar, but now you're in a new price range. Good luck!

[@menotyou816]

@@RoadandReel that $400 Orvis is outta my budget unfortunately. I'll look at the echoes next time I'm looking. Thanks for the suggestion

[@RoadandReel]

@@menotyou816 Yeah, they get expensive fast! It's like each price point doubles from the previous one.

[@peterlord8891]

My trout XL 6wt, broke after 2 uses. Reels are fine, there RODS are JUNK.

[@RoadandReel]

@@peterlord8891 I love their reels! I've never even had an issue with their cheap ones.

[@peterlord8891]

@@RoadandReelyeh reels are great. Rods are terrible

[@Benjamin-David]

Is this on the Kings River?

[@RoadandReel]

Yeah, below the dam.

[@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy]

what the hell is it made out of that it takes so damn long to fix???? moon rocks???

[@RoadandReel]

Haha, I really laughed out loud at this comment! From what I've been told by their warranty department, they don't actually have the parts available to repair it, so they have to send out a new rod. I guess they fulfill them in the order received and new rod sales bump warranty replacement.

[@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy]

@@RoadandReel I have a 3 weight maxcatch, and to get a new rod tip it takes 15 days. From mainland china. It broke when the fly line froze to the top guide and I stripped in on a catch. its not a terrible rod. but i only use it maybe once a month, if that. I got it to do the utah cutthroat slam. I have a redington crosswater, its broken twice. 1st time was on a set just like yours, amazon took care of me there, and the 2nd time was same as the maxcatch. I fixed it myself with some spring steel. GSP thread and flex epoxy UV resin. Its been great for a few weeks that way. No way i'd be willing to wait for months for a repair....anyway. Love the channel!

[@RoadandReel]

@@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy thanks, I appreciate it! I used Big 5 store brands and other fly rods for years. Maxcatch probably makes the best "cheap" rod out there and there are many companies using those same rod blanks on more expensive rods. I've snapped a lot of rods, but it's usually not this difficult to get a replacement.

[@gregkosinski2303]

2:59 it’s never just the tip

[@RoadandReel]

True 😂

[@genedavella9817]

what river is that?

[@RoadandReel]

Kings River below Pine Flat

[@The-Sound-Explorer]

I will like this video, out of loyalty to you! But I am ride or die Redington!

[@RoadandReel]

I feel you! I struggled publishing this because I love them so much. We're just going through a rough patch in our relationship and I'm sure it'll work out in the end.

[@JoshuaHill-JH]

In 15 years of fly fishing, I have never broken a fly rod. This includes both of my Redington Classic Trout rods that I have been using for many, many years. I bought the 8'6" weight used, and I have used it to catch SO MANY FISH. I don't know, man, but I don't think that Redington is to blame here.

[@RoadandReel]

It took me about 25 years and I don't necessarily blame Redington for the broken rod, but it took almost a year to get it replaced. I blame one of the largest fly rod companies for that. They have terrible customer service. Some years I'm fishing 150 or more days a year and that's a long time to be without a rod. I own upwards of 20 fly rods and I've only ever broken my Redingtons. I've broken four of them.

[@billlynn8256]

$25 you can buy a new tip directly from them..

[@RoadandReel]

Only when they're in stock and it's $40 now.

[@erezzrian3008]

From what I've seen they have a lifetime warranty. Does this not cover this problem?

[@RoadandReel]

@@erezzrian3008 it's covered, but you have to pay for shipping and a $40 fee.