I Ordered the Cheapest GPU in the UK...It went wrong!

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@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
🟢Had anything similar happen, leave a comment, some interesting stories coming out.
@RoswelliVideos
@RoswelliVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered a Q9450 on the basis of your Core 2 Quad video from CEX. Received a box set of 90210. @_@
@mikedonalds
@mikedonalds 2 жыл бұрын
I was trying to trade in my RX 570, but they quoted me the trade in price for a GTX 570. Otherwise, CEX has always been spot on for me.
@Mini-z1994
@Mini-z1994 2 жыл бұрын
That could would get returned quite quickly if i was specifically after a gts 250 & got that garbage. Also might overclock the card further btw with a program called " Nvidia inspector " Pushed a 8500 gt too 710mhz core & 420 mhz on the memory with that & a larger cooler i had laying around.
@brokeandtired
@brokeandtired 2 жыл бұрын
CEX sent me a GTX770 once that had clearly been baked in an oven (to try an fix solder on gpu), because the board was bent like a banana.
@KomradeMikhail
@KomradeMikhail 2 жыл бұрын
I recently ordered (not from CEX) a GeForce 8800 GTS for the collection... and received a 6800 Ultra instead. This was actually a wonderful mistake. Despite being older, the 6 series is the last supported by Win98. Making the 6800 Ultra the top-tier card for a retro 98 rig.
@KomradeMikhail
@KomradeMikhail 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody keeps calling it the GeForce GT 210... but it was so low-end that nvidia refused to even give it the GT label. It is technically just the GeForce 210.
@emir4707
@emir4707 2 жыл бұрын
True story
@johncate9541
@johncate9541 2 жыл бұрын
They're worried about those silly little letters when they have already diminished their GeForce brand by selling garbage like the 210 under it?
@randomchannel9331
@randomchannel9331 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncate9541 Imagine a card even lower just called the Force 210 lmao
@AlexandruLipan
@AlexandruLipan 2 жыл бұрын
Added fun fact: is one of the least powerful graphics cards supporting DX11, at a whopping 39 GFlops in 32 bit calculation. 39 Gflops is what, graphic wise, was the Galaxy S4.
@randomchannel9331
@randomchannel9331 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexandruLipan damn im glad this gpu can play angry birds at 60fps lmao
@255gecko
@255gecko 2 жыл бұрын
As an ex CEX employee who was the only person in the store who knew anything about PCs I can confirm there’s maybe 12 people in the company who actually take the time to look at the card their buying or selling is And most of them are franchise workers
@jaklawrence4301
@jaklawrence4301 2 жыл бұрын
I don't imagine CeX pays very well, so they probably have to make do with whatever employees they can keep a hold of. This is usually the problem with these kinds of stores, Curry's has this problem as well and so did Dixons and Maplin back in the day. If you don't pay enough to get people who know about tech to sell your tech for you, you'll end up with these sorts of problems where whoever's job it was to send this out wasn't paid enough to care.
@willpemberton6823
@willpemberton6823 2 жыл бұрын
All of the DSG owned shops (Dixons, Curry’s , PC World) tended to have the most stupid staff in-store. My local Curry’s didn’t even know what DVD regions were when selling DVD players. As for PC world, the urban legend about asking if they had any spare IRQs and a member of staff going to check the stock for some might well be true.
@wyterabitt2149
@wyterabitt2149 2 жыл бұрын
@@willpemberton6823 Why would they need to care about DVD regions, they didn't sell anything other than the local region. I doubt they know what power requirements are in Nicaragua either.
@willpemberton6823
@willpemberton6823 2 жыл бұрын
@@wyterabitt2149 I asked if they sold multi-region players (knowing they didn’t), their response was “what is a region ?”. Knowing bugger all about what they are selling is the problem, most of them aren’t even good at selling either. The mighty DSG, sellers of cheap crap at expensive prices.
@another3997
@another3997 Жыл бұрын
@@willpemberton6823 So, if you go to your local supermarket to buy some baked beans... do you expect the staff to know what kind of beans are used, what country they're from and how they taste? Trust me, I know from long experience that DSG aren't the best, but they're just a 'tech' supermarket. They sell everything from kettles, coffee machines, washing machines and fridges to TVs, Computers and Telescopes. I think your expectations are somewhat unreasonable.
@thecatherd
@thecatherd 2 жыл бұрын
I love CeX as someone dirt poor because they're the only way I can actually afford a smartphone. But yeah, their quality really does vary wildly with PC parts. At least they have a good return policy and stick to it for the most part.
@UKVampy
@UKVampy 2 жыл бұрын
Fortunately my dealings with CEX have been OK as I live in a large town, ie it has a large CEX, PC parts in there are quite abundant, esp cpu's Ram and Storage. GPU's are a bit hit and miss but they had a GTX1050ti in last Friday for £95.
@sabianwarner5316
@sabianwarner5316 2 жыл бұрын
I recently ordered and received a normal gtx 1050 and have had no issues with it. The only issues I've had with cex is when I was originally going to get a gtx 750 ti but support would not tell me if the card I wanted to order was able to be powered without external power. I was told they all required external power which was wrong. So cex is good but not always lol
@archerbob6847
@archerbob6847 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a similar experience with GameDude Computers where they sent me not what I ordered but the "equivalent" item that only worked just enough to post and nothing else, so if you send it back at cost to yourself, you then have to pay a *cough *cough working item re-stocking fee. In the finish what they count on is people not doing this as it costs more than items worth or was originally paid for to try and sort things out. Businesses like these are dead to me...
@lumine7653
@lumine7653 2 жыл бұрын
Oh God. The 8400gs was my very first actual card that enabled me to sorta play games. I also rembered that it maxed the slider in Msi afterburner and still performed poorly but again, enabled me to play actual games. (Coming from intel onboard g33 graphics)
@BReal-10EC
@BReal-10EC 2 жыл бұрын
Note the GTS 250 has higher clock speeds so it's actually slightly better than the 8800 GT. The 8400 GS was.... £21 when released. So you didn't get much of a discount for it being 13-15 years old. I remember seeing those in boxes with GAMER graphics as Best Buy way back when. What a turd. That card isn't much better than the old ATI iGPUs put on the motherboards. I think my Phenom Dell with ATI HD 4200 was able to run HL2 at a horribly low resolution and framerate. Lol.
@xXBeefyDjXx
@xXBeefyDjXx 2 жыл бұрын
Oh CEX :P Ngl I used to spend a lot of time in my local one, from time to time they get some absolute GEMS come in, but I almost never order online. The only time I have, I've had bad media (games and the likes) and things come through that definitely aren't the rating they should be (an A rated item that looked like it was retrieved from a dumpster dive, ew!) It comes down to the fact that some stores simply don't give a toss, but others do and take it *extremely* seriously. The ones that take it seriously are the reason why there's almost never actual stock for say, an A rated PS1 game etc. Never the less, at least you got something and it wasn't super expensive lol
@xXBeefyDjXx
@xXBeefyDjXx 2 жыл бұрын
By the way, contacting their support and looking at your order, it should have shown what store it came from, the label says who checked it into that store too. They do track inventory very closely.
@huleeyaxerssius7
@huleeyaxerssius7 2 жыл бұрын
There isn't any kind of CEX here in australia, but from all the stories i've heard, it can be summed up by that one quite from Forrest Gump: "Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get". Just replace "life" with "CEX" in this context, and there you go.
@lolcat
@lolcat 2 жыл бұрын
it's like cash converters
@huleeyaxerssius7
@huleeyaxerssius7 2 жыл бұрын
@@lolcat Do know what CEX is about of course, but yes there just aren't any where i am was all. And that quote i mentioned, would be the same thing with cashies & other stores like that
@quenguin2178
@quenguin2178 2 жыл бұрын
that is fairly normal for CEX online. I ordered a n AMD A8 5600k and 2x4GB DDR3 RAM and the ram came in a jiffy bag and the cpu was wrapped in bubbkewrap but arrived with 2 bent pins. Neither of the CPU or RAM worked and I had to pay to send them back
@facebag666
@facebag666 2 жыл бұрын
back in high school my freind had a 8400gt and core 2 duo " gaming rig" and mine had a amd athlon 64 x2 and a ati HD4550.
@mantasdarbutas6606
@mantasdarbutas6606 2 жыл бұрын
Great performacne for 8
@m3gAnac0nda
@m3gAnac0nda 2 жыл бұрын
Hey it can run Vice city, San Andreas, doom 3, Max Payne 2, Morrowind, rtcw, good stuff for 8£
@ngtv_777
@ngtv_777 2 жыл бұрын
As an ex-employee of CeX, basicly what you've got there, is called a "buy in error". They bought the wrong thing (most stores dont even test things out), and when they found out about it (most likely due to it being returned from a customer), instead of "price adjusting", they just crossed out the name. This and many other things are company policy, aka they just dont care.
@Prof.Pwnalot
@Prof.Pwnalot 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a computer store, that doesn't test their products. That's a worry but not uncommon... :( Had an issue with a motherboard. Was tested within the 2 hours of lodging a return. Was a recent motherboard b550 less than 2 years old Anyway, x570 i brought, i returned that same day within the 2 hours as it was faulty and not responding. Turns out, i got the luck of the draw, but worked out well, B550 was cleaned out, CPU socket had some crap in there that i failed to see. (not the best eyesight) So i saved my money there. Upon return they greeted me lovely, and said, we were just about to call you and say that your motherboard is fine. That's centrecom in Australia. Guy even told me, hes bound to the company, was a beginner like us all, was sick of getting rolled from "professionals", takes his customers more seriously than his job for the company since he goes above and beyond and genuinely wants to help people. Good and bad people around i think. Guy even offered to slot my CPU in for me, since i had some issues with the heatsync releasing tension, and didn't wanna fuck my AMD pins up. Luck of the draw, like a brand new computer part, or interaction with an individual. You just never know.
@MrDontclickthislink
@MrDontclickthislink 2 жыл бұрын
That makes so much sense! I bougth a CPU from CeX a couple of years ago, got home and put it in my computer... nothing... put my old one back in.. computer booted up as usual, thought it was a problem with my computer and maybe somehow I've got confused and got the wrong one? Put it in my friends computer, nothing again! No obvious marks on the CPU to tell me it's broken.. Tried another friends computer, he's a bit more tech savvy than me, he put it in and it didn't boot up.. He told me it's not the fault of the computer but the CPU is broken. I took it back to the shop and had the WORST experience with the guy on the till, told him everything and he replied with "Well it was working when we tested it" to which his mate stood next to him side eyed him like he knew he was lying.. said well it's not my computer because it hasn't worked in either of my friends machines, he said I must've broken it, I literally took it out of the package it was placed in and placed it in the computer, nothing rough about it at all. He said he'll take it back and test it, his mate immediately shook his head, I said fine, came back in an hour and he'd gone, his mate served me, apologised and issued me a refund.. I love CeX because the staff there are usually cool but this guy was a prick.
@1bodyproblem
@1bodyproblem 22 күн бұрын
I bought a ring doorbell clone from CEX - the app was removed from google and apple stores, the base unit was completely missing, and the doorbell part was burnt where the missing battery was supposed to be - I will only sell to cex from now on - i have a broken PS3 i'll take in on monday
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech 2 жыл бұрын
The local store of CEX near me had a habit ... for MONTHS ... of not identifying cards properly and their pricing was seriously out of whack. I bought 5 cards over the course of half a year and made £350 profit selling those cards on gumtree compared to what I paid CEX for them. Whoever worked there at that time who got the job of pricing and identifying GPU's was my best friend. Even though I never met them.
@mrN3CR0
@mrN3CR0 2 жыл бұрын
we dont price them instore, the pricing team do that externally... all we do is type the model and spec into the till system and then quote whatever the system says for cash and voucher so NO instore colleague has any control over pricing be that in corporate or franchise stores, Most colleagues that work instore are NOT upto spec on pc hardware at all and will just wing it (sales colleague in a northern corporate store)
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrN3CR0 Ah. So someone was typing it in wrong. I guess that's possible. I've watched guys in the store googling to try to identify cards and whatnot. They can get a little confusing given the number of different models and variants. I can be constantly advising them what it is, but they don't listen. So just leave them to it, right? Thanks for the clarification though.
@mrN3CR0
@mrN3CR0 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheVanillatech Hey no worries, ive been a customer for cex for 17 years but only worked for them for the past 2 years swapping over from 5 years at currys pc world and most of all my shifts were training people up on hardware variables and how to identify stuff lol , It can sometimes happen where things are mis-bought/sold and we call that a buy in error, such things are supposed to be corroborated on a buy in report and checked over by supervisors and management but alas it looks like SOME stores (cough franchise cough) just dont seem to care about standards xD
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrN3CR0 Shit I worked at PC World during the Christmas season of 1999 into 2000. I was only a youngster, needed some Christmas money etc. It was the time of the "millenium bug" that was gonna kill us all and end the world, exploding computers at random and shutting down missle defense systems and life supports. Nothing actually happened though. Was an anti-climax. I was shelf stacking but the repair guys were fucking baboons and knew nothing, came to me every day asking how to fix this or that the other. Same with salesmen, who I fucking hated, slimey robbing bastards at that store! I used to advise people and be honest etc and when it came to the sale, I'd hand over to a slimeball and was told I'd get the commisson. Which I never did. That entire experience was a fucking nightmare, so I left with a handful of brand new RAM and a working if slightly battered VooDoo 3 from the returns bin in the back. Told them to ram their job. In a way they lost a potential beast in treating me so badly, but it wasn't a nice environment for me. Was sick of seeing old people getting robbed blind by scumbags, or tech guys talking all day and then coming to me to ask for help doing their job. Don't know if you can relate to any of that. Cheers anyways!
@acid3129
@acid3129 2 жыл бұрын
I orderd a gtx 580 3gb for £20 and got a rx580 4gb the other day I don't know what the shipping department are up to but I'm not complaining
@scotttait2197
@scotttait2197 2 жыл бұрын
So did you actually return it to cex? Bought am alleged R9 390x ... was sent a 2gb 7750 ... cex tried to deny it was thiers despite having their sticker
@najirulislam3444
@najirulislam3444 2 жыл бұрын
did you get sorted though?
@garrettturner7383
@garrettturner7383 2 жыл бұрын
The card had me fooled- My first upgrade was a Dell Nvidia GeForce 210 with 512MB of vram, that looked exactly like that card. I enjoyed minecraft at normal settings at about 30fps, for a couple of days before the card died.
@2048Megabytes.
@2048Megabytes. 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s kinda sad
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 2 жыл бұрын
How did you manage to destroy 210, they are like cockroaches - virtually indestructible :D
@MattTheTekie
@MattTheTekie 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing they mis matched it for that one as a result then something ridiculous happened causing the mis label. I don't know how someone destroies such a card tho
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
My first "upgrade" was from a 6200 TC to a 7300 GT. Which was stable on a 60% overclock and still works. The 7300 GT was actually pretty neat, with oc close to a 7600 GS in performance. That's like buying a 1650 today and clocking it to 2060 performance.
@zuyvox
@zuyvox 2 жыл бұрын
Its nice to know that a HD5450 is fast in comparison to this
@2048Megabytes.
@2048Megabytes. 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@erisdelta5950
@erisdelta5950 2 жыл бұрын
even better when it's one of the "higher end" models.
@dabombinablemi6188
@dabombinablemi6188 2 жыл бұрын
Considering my local one didn't pick up the blatant corrosion damage on the back of an MSI Armour GTX 970 - full blown green residue + swollen & cracked capacitors on the backside directly behind the GPU. Suffice to say no sli GTX 970 for me (and later my brother). They also sold 1 of 2 HD7970 GHz dead, so no crossfire either (of course the dead card was one of the blowers). Portal 2 would have been an interesting test - it runs well on even my old Celeron M380/Pentium M770 based laptop with its intel 915 and proves how craptastic a low end card is.
@jrose-xp6tf
@jrose-xp6tf 2 жыл бұрын
That...was one shady transaction, double scammy.
@sircampbelltenson7297
@sircampbelltenson7297 2 жыл бұрын
A while ago I was looking to upgrade from a HD 4870(Yes I know but it was a hand-me-down PC), I bought an R9 270 from them (IN PERSON) and it was not working whatsoever, I did get a full refund but they claimed to have tested it. So out of spite I tried to sell them a completely dead (Green pixel artifacting everywhere) GTX 580. Got 35 quid for it, no questions asked. Absolutely ridiculous
@user-te1le7ck6b
@user-te1le7ck6b 2 жыл бұрын
You did gods work lol
@Gatorade69
@Gatorade69 2 жыл бұрын
That HD 4870 was a decent card... back in the day. I had one and rather liked it.
@LieutenantD4
@LieutenantD4 2 жыл бұрын
A N G E R Y
@sircampbelltenson7297
@sircampbelltenson7297 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gatorade69 Still got mine today, sits in a Phenom II X2 545 machine that I use for XP/7 gaming, also has a secondary drive in dual boot running Ubuntu for Minecraft server hosting and as a file vault. Copes well enough for Minecraft since the server js just for a few friends but the 4870 holds up wonderfully in the games of the time
@PoutingTrevor
@PoutingTrevor 2 жыл бұрын
CeX either disappoints despite already having low expectations, or they genuinely surprise in some way. Unfortunately you must have experienced both feelings simultaneously when you got this card.
@harpingon
@harpingon 2 жыл бұрын
I got a mint condition PS4 Pro, and a superb Cellular iPad from them at prices I did not expect. I've also had busted and dirty controllers, scratched games, and games with no disc in the box. It's really variable!
@punstartracer
@punstartracer 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ, I had this graphics card in my first job computer editing SVGs and Magazine layouts, the thing lagged on Illustrator CS3 I couldn't imagine it's capable of running games.
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 2 жыл бұрын
Well, both CS3 and 8400 were released the same year (2007), and 8400 was a budget card even back then .
@punstartracer
@punstartracer 2 жыл бұрын
​@@aleksazunjic9672 I think spec-wise it all makes sense but at the time I had a Core 2 Quad with GMA graphics integrated on the motherboard in my main machine, it could maybe reach 30 FPS in a lax source game like Portal with everything on low and even that could run Macromedia FlashPaper and Illustrator without lagging. Maybe it's behaving differently on a less restricted machine, just seems so odd to see it have any performance whatsoever.
@smoothjamie4046
@smoothjamie4046 2 жыл бұрын
This is my experience of CEX about 50% of the time. Half the time I will order and have no problems and half the time i have broken items, wrong items, or just discs full of scratches and scuffs. Hillarious, because since the time they have been offering a 24 month warranty they have been rejecting perfectly good items you want to sell citing the warranty as an excuse. Hit and miss.
@warrengouldthorpe5091
@warrengouldthorpe5091 2 жыл бұрын
This has happened to me a few times where I've ordered games and films online and they've been soo badly scratched they might as well be binned, but I've tried selling them a few games and films in really good condition but they rejected them saying "there to badly damage"
@Valkirth
@Valkirth 2 жыл бұрын
same experience with the one where i live, that is why I stopped using them for like 10-15 years now, got sick of their crap.
@Ndlanding
@Ndlanding 2 жыл бұрын
@@warrengouldthorpe5091 "They're too badly damaged." How can anyone make so many mistakes in 4/5 words? DId you have Liz Truss as a teacher?
@Timmymantwo
@Timmymantwo 2 жыл бұрын
The worst CEX I had was an unboxed PS4 I ordered online. Arrived awfully scratched, took it into my local CEX and even they were appalled by the condition of it. Think the store that sent it was in shit afterwards
@lewisyork3841
@lewisyork3841 2 жыл бұрын
Had the same with a Samsung phone, bought a grade A, received the worst condition phone I have seen. Screen had chucks taken out of it as well as really bad screen burn. For pc parts I had server ram delivered to me 3 times in a row... cex's policy says they don't even buy this in
@scellyyt
@scellyyt 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing I like about GTS 250 gpus is XFX variants have a fancy looking shroud, but damn that's bad on CEX's part lmao
@leehastie12
@leehastie12 2 жыл бұрын
I remember I took my GT 1030 to my local store to sell and the staff there said their pc couldn’t detect the card, as if it were faulty. Was utterly confused at how they came to this conclusion because I knew the card worked fine so I didn’t bother arguing with them and took it home. Decided to sell it on eBay instead and the buyer left positive feedback for the sale. Ever since then, I only use CEX for buying PS1, PS2 or the occasional PC games not on steam. In my own experience, I defo do not rate CEX at all and would much rather use eBay for used parts or components.
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a great opinion of CeX, I’ve had several PS1 and 2 PS2 purchases fail to work, and I had one broken SNES cart, but I have had many other successful purchases and thankfully they accepted refunds on all of my failed purchases, or were able to resurface the disc to fix it. They also refused to buy any of the games their website said they accepted. At the moment I mainly use them to buy Xbox 360 games, as I recently got one and they sell the games for £2 or less in CeX, I’ve filled out a fairly large collection at usually £1 a pop with some as low as 50p. They’re all worked so far, and at such low prices it’s hard to argue with since eBay usually costs £5-15 for the same games including shipping costs.
@TheSpotify95
@TheSpotify95 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow - I've never had anything like this happen to me. The CeX that I have been in before is usually OK - with decently priced RAM and storage that has worked well. I might just look in the good stores to see if I can get a decent GPU for my 2nd gen i3 build/4GB RAM - that will be a good Windows 7 PC, so at least I can hopefully get a semi-decent graphics card, which would also allow an upgrade to an i7 and 16GB RAM later on down the line.
@ljrretropcs
@ljrretropcs 2 жыл бұрын
I have it in writing from a CEX that it is not their policy to pack PC components in any type of ESD protected packing. They sent me a CPU in an envelope wrapped in paper and during post a resistor had been torn from underneath the CPU. According to them this is acceptable.
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Usually most stores send me CPUs wrapped in a plastic container and bubble wrap. But I have had just tissues tossed in an envelope before, some stores really give them a bad name.
@gandi69
@gandi69 2 жыл бұрын
CPU’s in paper bags are normal fare, i usually try to collect and take my own anti static bags. An rtx 3060 I ordered two weeks ago (@£340) turned up with no anti static bag - just in a box filled with shredded paper. It works fine but still would having a stock of anti static bags when posting a high value item really hurt? I’ll even pay extra for it just as long as ensure the item arrives ok!
@efftee
@efftee 2 жыл бұрын
I got really lucky when I ordered my i7 3770 from them, it came in its original (worn) box and even still had the intel inside sticker and stock thermal paste on the cooler
@noelisgod1
@noelisgod1 2 жыл бұрын
I once bought a cpu from CeX, I think it was an old AM2 chip, pulled it out the packaging and some pins were bent. Took it into my local shop and the guy honestly goes... "yeah if you try and put a cpu in the wrong type motherboard the pins will bend" uh huh, no shit. I didn't buy a cpu just assuming I could brute force it into any damned board.
@roasthunter
@roasthunter 2 жыл бұрын
tbh you don't need special packaging, brown paper is fine
@matthewday7565
@matthewday7565 2 жыл бұрын
I got a very good substitution, ordered a GTX 750 Ti 1GB and got a 2GB ... err, did they MAKE the Ti in 1GB? - yes they did.
@jimmyjoejoyce
@jimmyjoejoyce 2 жыл бұрын
Only stupid experience I've had with CEX is I Bought 500gb hard drive and got a 1tb
@Cenentury0941
@Cenentury0941 2 жыл бұрын
Did you return it?
@jimmyjoejoyce
@jimmyjoejoyce 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cenentury0941 no I still use it haha
@VengeanceLN
@VengeanceLN 2 жыл бұрын
Awhile back I bought my girlfriend who currently resides in the UK a GTX 1060 3gb for roughly $78 USD (idk what that is in GBP) for her PC build and instead she received a GTX 1070 so I won there.
@captainsemicolon
@captainsemicolon 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a gtx 960 4gb mini from them, came from a Scotland store. Motherboard refused to POST. Took it to my local store and they confirmed it also failed to POST on their test rig. Gave me a full refund. My local CEX is great, but yeah, there are definitely some that do not test or check the things they are selling.
@nile2566
@nile2566 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've seen Project Zomboid used as a benchmark and you have no idea how excited it got me
@mruczyslaw50
@mruczyslaw50 2 жыл бұрын
GTS250 should actually perform better than 8800GT as it is a rebrand of 9800GTX+
@trashtronics1700
@trashtronics1700 2 жыл бұрын
Oh didn't know that one good to know
@bob23301
@bob23301 2 жыл бұрын
Never....and i mean NEVER buy online from CEX when it comes to tech, only buy from in-store were you can inspect the item before you buy it.
@n0rsca392
@n0rsca392 2 жыл бұрын
Wait folks. It gets worse. This is in fact not an 8400GS from 2008. It's a 2008GS from the year 8400. This isn't a gaming graphics card at all. It's a quantum entanglement device.
@RJRC_105
@RJRC_105 2 жыл бұрын
CEX can get in the sea. They offer you a pittance for your stuff compared to, say, if you slapped it on Greedbay, loads of allegedly independent stores peg the prices they offer to CEX, and their stores smell of armpits. In 2012 I tried to sell them my Radeon HD 6870. They offered me forty five quid for it or sixty quid "store credit." They were knocking out similar cards in obviously worse condition (as in, coolers visibly clogged up with dust) for twice that. Never sell them anything to them and never buy anything from them.
@tourmaline07
@tourmaline07 2 жыл бұрын
The prices they offer to buy items is often so low that I cannot imagine any legitimate owners selling through them, especially with things like GPUs ;)
@alexatkin
@alexatkin 2 жыл бұрын
@@tourmaline07 It kinda works itself out when you consider eBay fees and the potential for dealing with being scammed with a return, at least so long as you trade for store credit and have something in mind for what you'll buy with that.
@tourmaline07
@tourmaline07 2 жыл бұрын
​@@alexatkin Fair point - I was scammed earlier this year with an Ebay buyer selling a Vega 64 who decided just after 30 days that he didn't want the card claiming it ran too hot (he clearly didn't do any research into vegas) - had to lose the sale and resell at a lower value to someone else. I'd probably use private marketplaces now above CEX still tbh. Agree that tradein isn't quite so bad - I did think about doing that with my 8700k to get a 9900k but I'd still be paying a premium of £150 or so , which is still a bit much for two extra cores on an older platform IMO.
@FuzzWoof
@FuzzWoof 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a generally pretty good experience ordering from CeX, but I ordered a Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS setup a few years ago and received a random cheapo no name USB joystick. I was not amused. :p
@prjndigo
@prjndigo 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's CEX's fault. Somebody sent in a junk card cleaned up as a return for the card they were sent for refund and whoever was at CEX was too stoned to notice, so it's ALL on CEX for committing a crime.
@heclanet
@heclanet 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried Nvidia Tesla cards? I bought an M40 and modified the Cooler, as an experiment it was a lot of fun.
@MartinWolves
@MartinWolves 2 жыл бұрын
I've bought plenty of stuff from CEX and it has been ok. Only issue I've had is an SSD which died after a week. CEX refunded me. Try doing that with an eBay purchace
@terrydaktyllus1320
@terrydaktyllus1320 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be a problem with an eBay purchase. They always come down on the side of the buyer anyway. If something arrives that you are not satisfied with, you just open a return, print a label and send it back. eBay refunds you the moment they see that the label has been scanned at the Post Office (at least in my experience anyway). Unfortunately, as someone who sometimes sells on eBay this has worked against me a couple of times where items have been sent back to me as "faulty" but there's nothing wrong with them.
@wyterabitt2149
@wyterabitt2149 2 жыл бұрын
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Only sold a few things over the years, had two returned and won both cases by having good documentation before and after. But even so, there is a time limit on opening a faulty case on ebay so even if this was the case, it's still not a benefit you get at ebay compared to CEX who have a 24 month warranty.
@ltredacted7034
@ltredacted7034 2 жыл бұрын
I actually work in a CEX store, these sort of things definitely should not happen, all label errors should be reprinted and loose parts should definitely not be sent like that.
@adamz1988
@adamz1988 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of my old pc with a 8600gt. It was one of my best purchases at that time as I could play mw4 on max detail.
@toron8418
@toron8418 2 жыл бұрын
I met some people from Nvidia today... ...and I was really tempted to make an AMD joke, but I'd rather not get into the crossfire.
@cyphaborg6598
@cyphaborg6598 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there :P
@chestermc9954
@chestermc9954 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, this joke is deprecated.
@dadgamer6717
@dadgamer6717 2 жыл бұрын
I had a run of 3 broken GPUs in a row one xmas .. was trying to get a gtx 970 for my son and they were all broke :( 4th time lucky!
@Trusteft
@Trusteft 2 жыл бұрын
I just sold my GTX 970 "mini" (for SFF PCs), for under 60 euros. I was a fool. If I was using CeX I could have sold it as a RTX 4080 for 1000 euros. Yes I am joking. i have never used CeX and I don't plan to. Thanks for the video.
@CammieRacing
@CammieRacing 2 жыл бұрын
I think some CEX stores are franchises, and from what I've been told there's a big difference in quality control between corporate stores and some franchise owned ones.
@warrengouldthorpe5091
@warrengouldthorpe5091 2 жыл бұрын
This happened to me recently where I ordered a gt 1030 gddr5 from cex but they sent me a gt 1030 ddr4 instead as I noticed by checking the label on the graphics card, but luckily they gave me a refund
@faketek5095
@faketek5095 2 жыл бұрын
That version of the 8400GS doesn't look much better than some iGPUs released around the same time. I wouldn't pay more than 1€ for it nowadays, and even then that's a stretch.
@rustywarrior5288
@rustywarrior5288 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh CEX. I love 'em as a way of disposing of kit I no longer need and managed to pick up a few bargains as well. The only time I seem to have issues is when I get something for my missus. I only ever purchase "A" grade items for her as these _should_ be perfect in every way. However, the Kindle Paperwhite I got for her wouldn't register as it had been reported stolen - which had to have been done after the testing (assuming the testing had been done) and the Oculus Quest 2 I ordered for her and they sent me a PlayStation classic (no controllers or cables though) and a game! However on both occasions when I've taken them back to my local store they've refunded immediately.
@luckyowl10
@luckyowl10 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I call a double bamboozle, not only you didn't get the GT 210 from the tag, that can still play some browser games from Facebook, you got an even more ancient card
@blunderingfool
@blunderingfool 2 жыл бұрын
Ooof, I remember having one of those little bastards, not a lot of fun! Upgrading to a HD7750 half-height low profile changed my gaming world at the time!
@ToniaGlitched
@ToniaGlitched 2 ай бұрын
I don't know if I feel bad for you or relieved that my Intel HD 4400 isn't that bad, the more I watch this channel, the more I feel privileged to have my good and old i3 at the same time as it makes me wanna get more laptops, as we have 5 people here at my house and only 2 working computers so far
@DarkJedireaper
@DarkJedireaper 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered an RTX 3090 from CeX and it worked for a while but then died... however, they honoured the Warrenty they offer, and I got a full refund 8 months after I bought it. Which allowed to me to get another RTX 3090, a Steam Deck, and an i9 11900k all with the nearly £2000 refund.
@jordy_3d
@jordy_3d 2 жыл бұрын
Had a few orders and stuff from CeX myself over the years Only mistake I've had with them ordering online was ordering a Blu-Ray and receiving just the case, which was... almost impressive, really. I have seen things on shelves that absolutely make me go "You don't know what you have, do you?", from parts to rare games
@Fearagen
@Fearagen 2 жыл бұрын
I would just use this for a media PC. Super underpowered but you do not need a powerful gpu to watch movies. About the ONLY use it will get from me.
@arnauddupont7170
@arnauddupont7170 2 жыл бұрын
I always fear that putting those type of components on your PC may fry it. I suppose that you have a PC made to test it before putting it on your main (?) PC. That scam did gone worse with time and GPU-z, what a deal ! 😅
@tezcanaslan2877
@tezcanaslan2877 2 жыл бұрын
Some modified GPU’s may act funny and damage your system I think it happened to RandomGamingInHD with one of those fake GPUs
@catbugtf
@catbugtf 2 жыл бұрын
i purchased an i5 9400 and 2x8gb sticks of 2666mhz ram, and its been ok the cpu works fine, 1 of the ram sticks were faulty (getting constant bsods) and i'm currently waiting for a replacement from them, i'm also waiting on an rx 460 i recently bought for them, hopefully i dont get shafted like you have
@zebrasprite
@zebrasprite 2 жыл бұрын
I've always had great experiences with CeX. My 5500xt I received from them is an excellent card, especially with its 8GB of VRAM. An RX 580-level card with only 100 or so watts average power draw? Yes please! Another great video, Mr Budget Builds. :)
@yogibear2k220
@yogibear2k220 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I love going into CEX and laughing at all the JUNK they sell in there and watching the very sad people that buy this crap at super inflated prices! At least where I live, my Cash Converters is a LOT better.
@emu071981
@emu071981 2 жыл бұрын
The 8400 was a terrible card even when it was newly released. The fact that it is still being sold as a "graphics card" is just terrible.
@warrax111
@warrax111 2 жыл бұрын
It was meant to replace 7300GS, to offer Direct X 10, and newer technologies, and slightly lower power consumption. It was most lower, lowend offering of 8000 series. It was not meant for gamers in anyway, but as basic display adapter. Of course, as Nvidia needed to get rid of bad chips, that had shaders part damaged, they usually put chips here, so they get rid of them somehow useful. So it was meant as office graphic card, and for watching movies, in HTPC. 3d functionality was there only as bonus, so you can play at least old games at some lower to medicros settings (meant in year 2007, so 2006 games and older). Not bad card for the price, it was usuful that it existed. Next above was 8500GT. It was overkill for office, also much larger.
@northernleigonare
@northernleigonare 2 жыл бұрын
CEX sent me a dead 8GB stick of RAM in bubble wrap for my first PC. They also had fake gpus from china on display, as well as (I am 99% sure) stolen Crucial SSDs in BNIB condition and more than retail price. I don't spend any of my money there now. Everything I buy is either new, or from Facebook / eBay where people are slightly more genuine.
@HazewinDog
@HazewinDog 2 жыл бұрын
I don't trust Facebook in the slightest... it's so jam packed with scammers, it's crazy.
@tezcanaslan2877
@tezcanaslan2877 2 жыл бұрын
What is BNIB?
@Puremindgames
@Puremindgames 2 жыл бұрын
I've only ever bought like 2 things from CeX, both online, my MegaCD and Legend of Legaia which turned out to be Ex-Rental but was never stated as such, I get that they just pick a random store to send you a product, but still.
@jfwfreo
@jfwfreo 2 жыл бұрын
My experience with CEX (the Australian arm of it at least) has been pretty positive. Went in and bought their "value xbox 360 wired controller" which could be an original controller or could be a 3rd party controller (I wanted one for PC for emulation and some other stuff and didn't care if it was original or not). Ended up initially with a genuine MS controller in not-so-good condition which didn't work when I got home and plugged it in. Went back and complained and they had no issues swapping it out (in this case for a PDP Rock Candy 3rd party controller in transparent pink in really good condition) I wouldn't order from them online and I wouldn't buy used PC components like GPUs from them (mostly because I don't trust used PC components in general) but for things like the xbox 360 controller I bought it was worthwhile (and at $22 it was cheaper than anywhere else I could have gotten an xbox 360 controller from at that point in time)
@herbalterrorist420
@herbalterrorist420 2 жыл бұрын
In case anyone is wondering CEX is actually pronounced sex. Bit of a weird one and a random bit of useless info for ya, but on their adverts they say the name of the store as “sex”.
@oldphoneradio2412
@oldphoneradio2412 2 жыл бұрын
i paid £7 for a gts 250 oc on ebay about a year ago to put in a system for a family member and it could run most games well , it has just been replaced by a r7 250x and now sits on my shelf
@bsdjunkie1805
@bsdjunkie1805 2 жыл бұрын
Cheapest is free
@enicaeduard
@enicaeduard 2 жыл бұрын
Cheaper would be if you got money with the gpu
@critiqalerror
@critiqalerror 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody pays you to take their gpu (like reviewers)
@L4ftyOne
@L4ftyOne 2 жыл бұрын
No, cheapest is 0,01€
@L4ftyOne
@L4ftyOne 2 жыл бұрын
Free isnt cheap anymore, its free
@Amsyprologic
@Amsyprologic 2 жыл бұрын
Never order from Cex. Go to the store and look at what you want to buy. They will always send you what ever they don't sell in the shops and the decent looking stuff will keep for display.
@konradkierzkowski1339
@konradkierzkowski1339 2 жыл бұрын
I have recently bought used 8400GS and despite the fact that it only has a DMS output (which usually brings the price down) it costed equivalent of 25$! But still.... it was the cheapest card with PCIEx1 connector at this time on my local market.
@Northman_Roams
@Northman_Roams 2 жыл бұрын
I've only ever had one GPU arrive knackered from CEX in 10 years+ using them.
@jamesburke2759
@jamesburke2759 2 жыл бұрын
in defence of the 8400GS 256. i had one in my p4 socket 478 and at the time it ran games like UT2004, battlefeild 2 and call of duty 2 quite well. had alot of fun with it and on a budget it saved my ass. the optimal resolution is below 1024x768
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it should run 2003-2006 games at 800x600 fairly okay, and 2007-2010 games (so games from around it's release) at 320x240, 512x384 or 640x480 If you really want to go widescreen, 640x360 and 960x540 are your friend.
@jamesburke2759
@jamesburke2759 2 жыл бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudios I guess im just old because i think anything that isnt a RF input and is over 24fps is perfectly playable. Kids these days 60fps 1080p is crap
@harryshuman9637
@harryshuman9637 2 жыл бұрын
Why even buy this at all? Any Ryzen APU is faster than this thing.
@leeboy2k1
@leeboy2k1 2 жыл бұрын
How well can it run Cyberpunk at 8K 240hz 'RT enabled' loading from a daisy chain of Magnetic tape drives using them as page file?
@IcebergTech
@IcebergTech 2 жыл бұрын
"Well-binned" Yeah, sounds like it should have been binned!
@K9arcade
@K9arcade 2 жыл бұрын
Sucked that this happened to you. I've had a good run thus far with CeX (knock on wood). Crazy that you got a card that's worse than any of my retro PCs
@TheLukemcdaniel
@TheLukemcdaniel 2 жыл бұрын
This make me feel less bad about leaving my wife with a GTX 560 for so long(don't worry, she's on an RX 6600 now).
@paranoidgenius9164
@paranoidgenius9164 2 жыл бұрын
I may have an explanation for this, I knew someone who worked at a CEX, & what they told me they witnessed was, the delivery guy knows someone at an electronic recycling plant, find GPUs, with similar branding, replace the ordered one with it, then keep the better spec GPU for themselves. I don't think CEX is to blame, it's the delivery guys!
@petermichaelgreen
@petermichaelgreen 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't think CEX is to blame" Ultimately it's CEX who decide who to hire, what contractors to use, whether to use any additional security precautions when shipping stuff and so-on. If they decide it's cheaper to use staff and contractors who are not paid enough to care and tolerate the returns and reputational damage that results in then that is their decision. If the "delivery guys" really are stealing stuff and replacing it with lower-value substitutes then I doubt they are working alone. I suspect it's far more likely they have people on the inside tipping them off to which packages are worth tampering with
@Johny40Se7en
@Johny40Se7en 2 жыл бұрын
5:47 DirectX 7 LOL! That's probably as old as I am 😅🤭😂🤣 It's absolutely criminal what they sent you. People have taken companies to court for a lot less. And I mean, it could have been a gift for someone couldn't it. That would have been worse...🥴
@stevenanderson3205
@stevenanderson3205 2 жыл бұрын
There is no graphics card worse than the gt 210 i had a gs 8400 it was fantastic compared to the gt 210 i never wanted to see another gt 210 but those days are gone my computer now has a RX 6700 XT 12 GB of gddr6 nice.
@windowsxpnt2347
@windowsxpnt2347 2 жыл бұрын
Remember once seeing a fake 1050 in one of their stores. I pointed it out to them that a 1050 shouldn’t have analog video out, they just said “that’s because it’s a special variant”
@Stratos1988
@Stratos1988 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the good old England I used to live in. Mindless things happening all over the place. I much like you were satisfied with my local CEX located in Metrocentre, but the single one GPU i ordered via internet came in bubble envelope, covered in brown dust with bent backplate, and by brown dust i do mean smokers home BROWN dust.
@wyterabitt2149
@wyterabitt2149 2 жыл бұрын
Much like every county on the planet at worse, with well over half being horrifically worse in every imaginable way.
@DanielCardei
@DanielCardei 2 жыл бұрын
they are so bad at this i freaking love it. its like getting a random card every time. i feel sad when they send me the exact one hahahaha
@codyweaver5721
@codyweaver5721 2 жыл бұрын
Aside from the whole situation of note being a GT 250 in the first place, I think I could have forgiven them marking a GeForce 210 as an 8400 if it were an 8400 revision 3, as they were the same GPU. But according to your GPU-Z output this is a Revision 2 on an older process. So even if performance was in the same ballpark, there was no reason to mark a notably older 8400 GS Rev. 2 as a GeForce 210.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly the Rev 1 version of the 8400 GS is the fastest of them. It might be on the older G86 chip, but comes with 16 shaders and 128 bit memory. Raw performance is about 28% over the rev 2 and 45% above the rev 3 and is brings double the memory bandwith. The 210 is actually faster than all of them. Yes it has the same GT218 as the 8400 GS rev 3, but with about double the shader performance and a bunch more memory bandwidth. It sits closer to a 8600 GS or 9400 GT in terms of performance.
@warrax111
@warrax111 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Cody Weaver, HappyBeezeStudios is right. 8400GS rev 2 and rev3 had 8 shaders. While Geforce 210 has 16. It is more powerful. The one in video is rev 2 (65nm). They revisited it, so it is even cheaper to produce, and burn less power. Also bring new funtionality (rev 3 is based on Geforce 200 series, so has finaly 2d/3d switching. So it underclocks on idle, bring power consumption to minimum). They never was intended for gaming and power. So they basicaly was even stripping down performance with newer revisions, because noone used it for gaming. It was used at 99% in office PC, with only 2D funtionality, HTTPs, playing videos, etc... The first one was most powerful, because in times, when it was new, 8000 series was so huge step from 7000, that they make it as lowest card with some gaming abilities. But after year or so, the other generation cards was for that (9400GT, and GT220). So any 3D performance on 8400GS didnt have meaning, that's why they saved even more power, and underclock it even more. The cores able to put all 16 shaders to work, they was dispatching through Geforce 210. But some of them was not able to run 16 shaders, such chips tried to be cut down to 8, and tested. So they left 8400GS rev 3. ,so they can sell damaged chips, that could not go to Geforce 210 , and return some money. Otherwise, they would need to throw them out, if geforce 8400GS rev 3 would not exists.
@marccarter1350
@marccarter1350 2 жыл бұрын
I love your mistakes. One they are very entertaining, 2, it saves me from doing the same thing myself.
@HolyRaincloud
@HolyRaincloud 15 күн бұрын
I worked at CeX in Sydney, Australia. and the System was so fucking confusing and over complicated, it was a known thing amongst us that we just had to do it because its how they do it in the UK, anyways i'm not surprised at all, quality testing is bare minimum.
@k4ikful
@k4ikful 2 жыл бұрын
Once ordered a GTX 970 and got 1070 ti. The opposite can happen too at CEX lol.
@SteamFireGamer
@SteamFireGamer 2 жыл бұрын
My partner bought a GTX 1080 from CEX once but upon inspection when he got it home it was a GTX 1060 ... close but not what he bought, luckily he took it back the next morning and they replaced it but the person in the store checked the cards and somehow the barcode on the 1060 was showing as a 1080 on their system so sometimes I wonder if its somehow the barcode database being incorrect or people scamming CEX successfully.
@Cartoonman154
@Cartoonman154 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I ordered a Fawlty Towers DVD from the online CEX, and they sent me the wrong version with no DVDs in the case. When I gave negative feedback, they flagged the comment as inappropriate.
@CYellowan
@CYellowan 2 жыл бұрын
I just wonder if you went and re-pasted it with Thermal Grizzly or not. Not as it would matter at those levels however.
@REALLYRANDOMREVIEW5
@REALLYRANDOMREVIEW5 2 жыл бұрын
CEX Have become cheeky in my opinion they offered me like 60 quid for a 1650 during the Card shortage when they were selling for like 300 i would of took half but not 60 cheeky gits
@MichelleTamezPerez
@MichelleTamezPerez 2 жыл бұрын
I found this video so funny. Back in the day i had an Athlon 5200+ with a biostar nforce Am2+ motherboard that had a "Geforce 8100" igpu that i paired in hibryd sli with the first gpu i bought with my own earned money...a 8400GS that was also from Biostar but it was the ddr2 512mb + the turbo cache tech that used your system memory as a gpu memory (+ the 32-512mb buffer for the gpu) so in theory in total i had over 1gb of vram (512+256 cached vram + 512mb buffer) on my 3gb ddr2 1066 setup running windows xp sp3. And yes, Crysis was an amazing surprise when runing on mids to highs on a 1270x760 i belive 17" CRT. Good times i even remember the last 2 games i played with that setup runing for my parents: CoD MW 2 or 3 and Battlefield 3
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a camera off CEX late last year, a Canon one where they gave me not only 4 yes 4 batteries all working good but 3 chargers for said camera plus a quality USB to micro A cable too, only paid £25 for the Powerthingy Canon with the fruity extending lens action (very suggestive) and it works superbly too... then I got my Pixel 6 which knocks the poor ol' Canon into the long grass but hey ho.
@stanleywatson2559
@stanleywatson2559 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you normally receive good service with CEX, unfortunately I have only ever had terrible experiences of which this video is quite indicative.
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 28 күн бұрын
LTT made a PC build with that GPU a while ago. It was so bad, the iGPU (the cheapest brand new AMD APU at the time) was significantly faster.
@MrKata55
@MrKata55 2 жыл бұрын
I did a similiar thing some 6 years ago... needed the cheapest PCIe card since all the cards I owned then were AGP. I was basically building my first gaming PC with a Core 2 Duo, and the cheapest at that time(in CeX, it costed 15 PLN which is like 3-4 USD) was a 512MB DDR2 ATi Radeon HD2400. Surprisingly enough, it was still considerably better than the Intel GMA X3100 I had in my main laptop. Out of the most impressive games I played on it were: - Metro 2033 (non-redux) - was quite playable on lowest settings, around 15 to 25 FPS on average iirc - 7 Days to Die (the indie zombie sandbox) - Alan Wake, although it needed lowering of the minimum resolution through the config file(ran ok at 640x480) and also was the first game which I tried overclocking with (and the HD2400 did overclock OK although the temperatures were the limiting factor - the stock cooler on this was literally a 1mm painted alluminium sheet with a tiny fan attached) - Far Cry 2 (med settings I think) and a few other ones I can't remember.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who owns and has used both a 8800 GT and HD 4870, describing this card as a disappointment doesn't even do it justice. It is a display adapter. The 210 was one when it released 13 years ago and the 8400 GS was one when it released 14 and 12 years ago (because they released more than one model) In fact the 8400 and 8400 GS are so bad, they were called bad back in 2007
@DTronicsUK
@DTronicsUK 2 жыл бұрын
this is just CEX being CEX, There items are never packaged correctly, bought a GTX970 a few years ago so i could SLI them but the one they sent me was dead on arrival, how the card even passed there "checks" is puzzling. In fact my local store doesnt even know how to test cards correctly. tried to sell a perfectly working card but they said the card didnt work. turns out they didnt even connect the 6-pin pcie power to the card, as soon as they did, it worked first time. Buy your movies and games from there but stay well clear of there hardware, your taking a huge risk buying hardware from there and most of the time they will refuse to give you a refund and claim you damaged the item
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