I Paid $1000 for Logic!

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[@peterbondmusic]

I paid over $1000 for Emagic Logic Audio 2.6 in 1996! And then all the virtual instruments were separate products on top of that! The EXS 24 was $650.00 alone :) The kids have no idea how good they have it!

[@towerrunner4675]

When people write thick and accurate manuals for you, it's always expansive, no matter what it is.

[@TonyThomas10000]

I used to write for Recording Magazine. For Mix, Electronic Musician, Recording Engineer/Producer, and Roland User's Group as well!

[@BarryJohns]

That cover is a joke a friend made for me😁

[@TonyThomas10000]

@@BarryJohns That was pretty obvious. LOL!

[@stevel850]

Sometimes I still prefer a real book than reading on a screen.

[@VIRALBEATS360]

I still have all the Logic Pro 8 discs, but not the Encyclopedias. I (only) paid $500 the year it was released, and was going to school for Audio Production at the time. We were using Digital Performer before then, so Logic Pro was a huge upgrade. The studio I was working at asked what I needed to produce with and gave me the company credit card, then took half out of my first check. I immediately drove to Guitar Center and picked up the last copy, a half hour before they closed. To this day, it was the greatest return on investment I have ever experienced. By the way, what ever happened to Wave Burner? I loved using that program to master and arrange albums, back then.

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

Wow a physical manual. I miss those days.

[@luckyrocks1]

Funny, I just started my Mac-Mini and I was notified I have a free Logic Pro update to version 11.0.1. It's scanning my audio units as I watched this video and so far is on 568 of 1009. Such a great value now as I have been able to transfer Logic into my Mac systems as I upgraded the hardware through the years. I hope they don't change to a subscription service as many others have done as I simply don't use that often to make it worth it for me, but nice to have it when I have the time to play around with it.

[@billyfields7722]

Phonebook size manuals that's so very old school.

[@odmusicman]

My big buy was my MAC, Digital Performer, and MOTU MIDI Timepiece.

[@willjamsbeats]

I remember buying my $1000 box too.

[@jrlee243]

I remember seeing this pack in guitar center, with a bundle deal for the software and a Mac. I was using a Yamaha MM model mixing console, and i was so happy when i bought it( it was used, of course) i also remember thinking who would buy this software for that price, and why would you want to use fake instruments. I was aware of protools, but to me, that was for the big-time studios. I also used my garage for recording and mixing. I still have mountains of "old" gear. Some it works, and some don't. Thanks for the memories. I will never forget that box.

[@NickBDesigns]

I still got my big box. The hours I spent loading those things on my Mac it’s amazing how far we’ve come

[@Texasbluesalley]

Same story for me with Final Cut Studio back in 2008. Keeping it around saved my bacon one time when I needed to open a DVD Studio Pro project from back in the day, and Apple no longer has that product available anywhere.

[@johnvender]

I have memories of huge paper software manuals. I am really grateful Logic Pro 11 update is free. I love the new features, particularly the new bass and keyboards session players and the stem splitting capability which works amazingly well compared to other ways I've done it. Logic Pro has plenty of critics but I consider it an amazing deal and it has capabilities nothing else has without third party add-ons.

[@MuratEltanOfficial]

İ payed $999 Australian dollars for avid protools studio perpetual license 😂🤣. İ know how angry you are with avid😆. İ saw someone write in one of the videos regarding protools. “let the old horse die” 🙈😆makes me laugh, every time i think of it. İm %100 happy with logic pro they have come a long way you don’t need a ilok either. Love your channel Barry.✌️

[@talenwaver]

Remember how much a 1GB Jaz cartridge was?

[@Joe_Pass]

Those days.... I miss 'em..

[@JimGramze]

I don't remember the price or the version, and previously I'd had scoring (Professional Composer? Mosaic?) and Performer from Mark of the Unicorn, but I first got Logic in a very quick upgrade succession. I bought the very first MacBook which had the first version of Garage Band on it. 3 hours and I made a one-minute piece of music and was hooked. The next day I bought Logic Express and the day after that I bought Logic Pro.

[@larswillsen]

And approx. $500 for Steinberg Cubase (for Atari) 🙂

[@RecordingMag]

Love the Magazine Cover! 🙂

[@BarryJohns]

It was done by a friend as a joke.

[@mho010]

Yeah, close to 20 years ago I bought Waves SSL bundle (E G Channel and Bus comp) for USD699 … I’d say Logic Studio for $999 was a heck of a deal

[@c.l.4895]

And thanks to the perpetual license, that version is yours forever. 😉

[@lachopakapura]

Throws me back to 96 when my father bought a Darla sound card for our PC computer, it was a 2 ins 6 outs rca interface. I remember hooking the mixer to it and doing some very rough recordings of me singing and a guitar, I used Cakewalk if I'm not mistaken...., don't remember which version it was but I remember how was I amazed about the fact that I'm not using tape to record things and it was sounding very very nice❤

[@tomtwose7379]

Pretty sure at its start it was C-Lab Notator, I had with, get this....... 1mb hard drive. Yep, it that old

[@blackcreekmusic783]

The $1000 package (v7.0) was out before I got my first Mac. It went down to $500 for that big black box (v8.0) and was what I paid at the local Apple Store in Syracuse, NY. Funny they managed to put it into a plastic bag with a tie string and was almost ripping through the bag by the time I got it home. Fortunately with v9.0 they condensed it all down into a small box with only the installer disks and a basic quick start manual with serial numbers.

[@BarryJohns]

That’s correct. That box was what reminded me.

[@LostWithinOfficial]

Looking back at my Digi 003+ rack (which I still have). It's crazy how expensive that thing was and I couldn't even do direct monitoring (or at least I couldn't find a way). Ah the good old days! In fact, I still have my Tascam 4 track tape recorder in its box from '98 or '99. Paid a fair penny for that back in the day!

[@faautobahna9416]

Thanks for sharing that !! Wow.

[@paulmax9871]

Hey Barry, I just watched your video on Logic Studio. Looking at the manuals kind of made my head hurt. So I was wondering if you can do the free upgrade to Logic 11 and it seems to me that you should get several copies for what you paid for Studio :) I haven’t been online much lately but it was nice catching you. I’ve always enjoyed listening to you with your views and knowledge of recording. Take care

[@drvoodoo3073]

If Barry bought Logic Pro X in the past 10 years then the update to Logic Pro 11 is FREE

[@garyhoffman1]

I have every version of Logic back to 1987 when it was called Creator. I’m old…

[@jackbauer1805]

I paid $999 for emagic logic platinum for pc. Plus extra for esx 24, es 1 and 2, sound diver… ect. Probably close to 2k all together for the full Logic setup…lol

[@CrankyOldNerd]

wasn't there an upgrade cost when the next version came out? now it's 0. Photography software and Video Editing software did similar things, though adobe decided to charge monthly for thiers.

[@kaislivesoundchannel4706]

I once paid 500.-€ for logic 9. That‘s why refused to buy Logic X for 125.-€, when it came out shortly after that.

[@taipanOuch1]

Isn't Moorea Masa on the May 2024 cover of recording magazine? I don't understand.

[@BarryJohns]

A friend did it as a joke.

[@AlexOnAudio]

BARRY.. save yourself a grand and give Reaper as serious try my guy.

[@Bhallmed]

Did you even watch the video.

[@drvoodoo3073]

@@BhallmedReaper users are like vegans, they will never shut up about it

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

Reaper was no where to be found 20 years ago 🙄

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

​@@drvoodoo3073ain't that that truth?!??

[@AlexOnAudio]

Reaper was first released 19 years ago.

[@jdl2180]

Congratulations for being on the cover of recording magazine! 🎉

[@BarryJohns]

No, that’s a joke😁

[@iamdjtab]

In 1994, I was so happy to pay just $400 for a 4 GB (gigabyte... not terabyte) Glyph hard drive.

[@BarryJohns]

And $3500 for an entry level computer with a 56k modem!

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

Yeah that said the base download of a lot of daws is still sitting at around $500+ Logic is lower cost. An exception to that right now is stuff like Luna that is free, reaper is also fairly low cost but most others have tiers the "Studio" levels of these things is high even reason rack on its own is $500 all plugins version of fl studio normal price is above that mark while sale prices may vary, bitwig studio I think was around that price. but you might save $50 or $100 if you pick up essentials with something else. its easy to rack up a few thousand dollars for a "year" of the current version of many daws like if you want to use bitwig, fl studio, reason and cubase the costs add up pretty heavily, this is partially why I think most non professional folks pirate because they want to try everything... that said a few plugins can cost $1000 these days the prices are various, and $1000 in 20 years ago money is probably like $2000 now. That said I still think the best deals for sortware generally come with hardware packages. This is as AI more or less can make songs now for people that don't want top quality sound but just want acceptable sound. Also protools is also sitting around that $600 mark. I think that is more or less where they are all sitting about $500 to $600

[@drvoodoo3073]

I recently bought the Logic 8 box set you have in this video for $40 on eBay!

[@BarryJohns]

Mine is free!🆓

[@shawcunningham]

I first bought Logic when it was eMagic… can’t remmeber the price… probably don’t want to. 😂

[@oh515]

Yeah, I remember the full pro version was pretty expensive 😂 And I don’t even know how much I used on their sample libraries 😂😂 In my country it did cost $70 for each category 😅

[@TYBO-xl1xz]

Congratulations, you’re that old 😂

[@MichaelDaniels241]

I had this also and even Emagic with dongles

[@shanehen]

I still have that box too.

[@officialmoondancer]

I had this too but I for the life of me don't remember paying a grand for it.

[@thehouseofmuzic]

I still have Logic 9 in the box. 10 cd's to load which took forever.

[@planetmullins]

17 or more hours...damn. those were the days.

[@DanteWilliams728]

Keep it berry.

[@InspelaRecords]

Barry - didn't that version of Logic Studio come out in 2007? That'd make it 17 years ago. I bought it too and I think it was about £699 in the UK back then. I'm pretty sure it came out around the time of my birthday, in September I think?

[@BarryJohns]

September 29, 2004-Apple® today introduced Logic® Pro 7 and Logic Express 7

[@InspelaRecords]

@@BarryJohns Yes, but Logic Studio (which introduced Logic Pro 8, which's what's on the cover of the manual you're holding at 4:33 into this video), was launched on September 12th 2007. Indeed, Logic Pro 7 was introduced earlier, you're right, but that's not what you're showing in the video! That aside, great video! I've been a Logic user since 2002 (at Emagic Logic Gold v4.8) and you're right, younger users might indeed take it for granted that everything that comes with Logic Pro 11 today has always been included. I remember the fuss that was made when the ES1 and ESX24 came out! Revolutionary for their day.

[@patrickaeby6758]

Ha ha it makes me remember the first digi001 and all that too…. 😂

[@BarryJohns]

I remember that all too well!

[@revp01]

I have Reaper, Logic Pro, studio One, Ableton, & Cubase. I always return to Reaper.

[@MaximusWhyman]

The fasterst and most light weight daw. If I was mixing for a living or needed to program a specific workflow id solely use Reaper. For songwriting, I still prefer all the others you mention

[@BrendanMakesMusic]

He posted a video about how far DAWs have come in 20 years and there are multiple people here just raving about Reaper. We’re not talking about Reaper.

[@MaximusWhyman]

@@BrendanMakesMusic where else would we talk about slightly off topic things but on a video about something else?

[@bobroberts1530]

I used Logic until Emagic was sold to Apple and quit makimg Logic for PC.

[@TheMixClub]

Now i think i bought E magic in 1996 to 1998. I think i only payed around $500 bucks. HAy if it has a dongle dont pitch that. I have had people ask me if i would sell it. I dont have any idea where it is.... lol

[@watchtheskies]

I bought the same package, I threw mine out 5 years ago, no point in keeping it

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Back in 2001 I paid €1000 for Emagic Logic 4.5

[@markappleman9787]

I bought Logic Pro 7 guessing around 1991 maybe. I worked for Apple at the time and so got a 50% discount. My plan was to gain expertise in music production. The demands of my job and the daunting task of learning Logic when i had no prior experience with DAWs resulted in me not doing much with Logic. Later in life, I used Garage Band a fair amount. Then around 2012-2013 I switched to Logic Pro, price: $200. Now i'm retired, so I use Logic a lot for songwriting and music production and learning (that never ends does it?). You did not mention the free upgrades nor the ability to run Logic on all your Macs for no additional cost (in my case, iMac and MacBook Pro). so, $200 on 2 computers for ($200 / 11years) $18 per year. That's almost free. ;)

[@Fastvoice]

I guess you wildly mix up the decades. Logic was released in 1993 by Emagic in Germany and Apple took over only in 2002. I bought my first Logic version in 1994 and it was simply called Logic (later Logic Audio) - no Pro in the name. Logic Pro 7 had been released in September *2004* - not "around 1991".

[@markappleman9787]

@@Fastvoice Thanks. Your memory is better than mine. ;) I'm looking across the room at my Logic Pro 7 box. Do you know when that was current?

[@Fastvoice]

@@markappleman9787 You didn't read my comment 'til the end, didn't you? Because I already answered this question. 😉

[@LoveMeBack]

I miss Logic Pro 9😢

[@edmc2]

Me too… and built my first computer to run it a Pentium 2…

[@TrapBoiFuse561]

I remember that box in Apple Store lol

[@aceedmond8053]

I paid over $1000.00 for a Roland VS workstation around 20 years ago.... I think its probably worth $100.00 today.... maybe.

[@rickbolander7131]

I was about to comment that I spent $2800 (after taxes) for a Roland VS-880 in 1996. It was awesome and I loved using it for 8-10 years, but wow that hurts my head right now to think about!😂

[@VersatyleMusicGroup]

Man when I brought logic I think it was like 1300 or 1500$

[@davidasher22]

You guys have Wawa's in Florida? They used to be just a NJ (where I live) and PA thing when i was growing up.

[@BarryJohns]

Yep, always get my ethanol free gas for my mower there, great sandwiches!

[@leftofcenter4]

Barry, bro! ..you been smoking some weed……🤪

[@BarryJohns]

Of course

[@tkelong3569]

I paid 60 for Reaper. Me for the win.

[@markbraziel4828]

It still Logic Pro

[@zaiah_kmg8365]

I purchased emagic. That was a looong time ago

[@Fastvoice]

You didn't. Apple purchased Emagic in 2002. 😁 (The software was first called "Notator Logic" and then "Emagic Logic" - which I bought in 1994).

[@beyondsounds2640]

I think Apple with selling books 😁

[@yosoymichaelmyers]

Logic pro is only 200$ you got played

[@BarryJohns]

Next time actually watch the video.

[@willieelliott352]

The sad thing is that you are still paying for the DAW you purchase years go, and that with all the updates and upgrades you will never stop buying unless you stop buying.

[@BarryJohns]

Only had to do it once in twice in 20 years with logic.

[@drvoodoo3073]

I bought Logic 9 (App Store) for $199.99 in 2011 and then Logic Pro X for $199.99 in 2013. I will never have to pay for another Logic update again since they’ve moved to a one time purchase + updates for life policy if you already bought Logic Pro X.

[@zonarecordingstudio]

Snow Job

[@BarryJohns]

You didn’t watch the video. Yes I did pay $1,000 for it in 2004.

[@zonarecordingstudio]

I did ,I bought logic when it was owned by emagic

[@firesimeon5463]

😂😂😂

[@risingphoenix1484]

AI will make everything everyone is buying today worthless.

[@lmaoanatorhilarious2582]

Gold?

[@risingphoenix1484]

@@lmaoanatorhilarious2582 technology is deflationary… Gold vs US dollar that is debatable….. but what Trafigura reported this week on it customer losses. Tells me commodity counterparty risk is a problem which will cause interest rates to go up dollar to go up and commodity prices to go down…. Dude the economy is so fk’d.

[@arda8o821]

What

[@arda8o821]

(First reaction)

[@BarryJohns]

I know right

[@buckbreaker5185]

Ewwww

[@rinkydinky-ob9pe]

i dumped a complete version of logic 9 about 5yrs ago