I played 100 hours of Retail World of Warcraft without Addons

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Spinninghead

Spinninghead

Күн бұрын

Ah World of Warcraft, the game everyone loves to hate. The game that has given brain rot to many gamers. The game that has been around for 20 years and yet is still so dependent on external addons to make it playable the way it is designed nowadays. And today I am going to be playing World of Warcraft for 100 hours without all of these addons (that should already be baked into the game), just to see if I can still find enjoyment in this game.
I now have a Patreon and a Discord!
Patreon: / spinninghead
Discord: / discord
Chapters:
0:00 - World of Warcraft Despair
02:44 - RIP Bozo to my addons
02:53 - Time to make yet another WoW Alt
04:04 - Yapping
04:15 - Here we go again
08:44 - Eversong Woods, so pretty, so blocky
11:05 - Ghostlands
11:27 - The Worst Type of Quests in any Videogame
13:40 - People always say the Wrath is . . .
16:18 - Back in Orgrimmar
17:14 - Levelling always feels bad
20:00 - Open World Content. Wow
22:38 - Seasonal Content
23:50 - Raiding in the hardest Difficulty
26:31 - Button Bloat
30:52 - Degenerate Gameplay
32:54 - Flightstones. Why?
33:36 - How to really play WoW
35:23 - Final Thoughts
It was pretty jarring to go from having a lot of addons to no addons in World of Warcraft. And after spending 100 hours of playing without them, it becomes increasingly clear that Retail WoW, as a game, should have a significant amount of their addons already baseline. Retail Nameplates are a pretty big example, because playing a Dot class becomes very cumbersome without them. Another is Clique, which allows people to bind two abilities to one button, which is related to another problem the game has right now. Button Bloat. Having these many buttons to press only make every other button press less meaningful. Not to mention you now need the entirety of the left side of your keyboard, plus a shift and ctrl variant of each. Couple that with the need to not only rotate kicks, but also crowd control when playing dungeons, and them game becomes a breeding ground for the sweatiest and most toxic of people, who base their self esteem on a video game. There is also a lack of solo content in the game that presents a challenge. Solo content is often a joke difficulty wise and also rewards you with a joke. There is nothing to do in-game whenever your friends ever don't want to play this week. Such as when affixes in dungeons really sucked and you cannot be bothered to play on a pre-nerfed sanguine week. That all said though, Wrath of the Lich King Zones are pretty, and very atmospheric. Icecrown feels like an undead base of operations, and Grizzly Hils feels like Hiking in a mountain. Dragonflight zones are also very atmospheric but we have to give props to the original. Now we wait, for Pandaria!
Title: I played 100 hours of Retail Word of Warcraft without Addons
#worldofwarcraft #wow #worldofwarcraftdragonflight #wowdragonflight #mmo #mmorpg #100hours

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@harmonyhall4186
@harmonyhall4186 27 күн бұрын
I don't know if anyone has said this yet but Mouseover IS baked in to the game in your settings you can check it to turn on the feature it is not on by default. The feature was added at the beginning of Dragonflight along with the UI update. I have noticed so many people sleeping on this feature I use it on all my characters. Also you can change the settings for the health bars so they don't overlap in the base UI.
@reignbopanda3444
@reignbopanda3444 24 күн бұрын
I had no idea mouseover was in the game, ive been using macros for eons
@WPharolin
@WPharolin 23 күн бұрын
@@reignbopanda3444 It's a recent (but welcome) addition. You needed macros and addons for ages.
@Velgan83
@Velgan83 7 күн бұрын
​@@reignbopanda3444 Since macros are in the game, can we say it was in the game since the release of vanilla? Hmmmm 🤔(btw, macro team here, too used to it)
@huntergrant6520
@huntergrant6520 25 күн бұрын
This is how I played for 19 years. I have no regrets
@GrandAdmThrawn
@GrandAdmThrawn Ай бұрын
I hope Baldman will watch this video. Very nice points.
@Jdp223
@Jdp223 Ай бұрын
Here for baldman reaction 👩‍🦲
@Tetrathegod
@Tetrathegod Ай бұрын
His opinion is not rly relevant anymore tho
@lilithvanderzwaan552
@lilithvanderzwaan552 Ай бұрын
I guess we like very different things. Other then dragon riding, I find my self exactly opposite. I couldn't finish the video, just to toxic for me More power to you in the way you like to play. Just a comment to show people like very different things in wow.
@emsies666
@emsies666 26 күн бұрын
@@lilithvanderzwaan552I agree, too many negative nancys recently
@Levelity
@Levelity 5 күн бұрын
Baldman will appreciate the comedy for sure.
@Kedustrolder
@Kedustrolder Ай бұрын
I've played season 3 without any add-on as a healer, it was the funniest season I had, holy paladin, going 3.2K rio without a single add-on, I was more attentive to the environnement and I enjoyed the game way more. I think I'm gonna do it again
@norricommander
@norricommander Ай бұрын
the anduin roast tho
@Tutserman420
@Tutserman420 22 күн бұрын
This video is just a really long way to say I have tiktok brain.
@Zhohan-
@Zhohan- 15 күн бұрын
IKR. "2nd monitor, nothing to do while backtracking" I despise endgame but I'm always leveling characters. Secret to enjoyment is getting fully immersed into the RPG and thinking about the journey rather than the destination.
@aquagis7499
@aquagis7499 Ай бұрын
17:06 why do i feel so called out 😂
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
it happens to all of us, gotta maximize that free time
@yonelywanderer627
@yonelywanderer627 5 күн бұрын
Saaaame, the amount of times I would alt tab, forget about the game, and be dead in the middle of the ocean because of fatigue is unreal.
@whatwastaken
@whatwastaken Ай бұрын
Good video, was fun watching you try to take another perspective on retail. I really don't understand why Blizzard thinks it's a good thing to have the current patch be the only content in the game worth doing. It makes everything else not just feel pointless, but be actually literally pointless unless you care about collecting cosmetics. As for solo stuff that offers a challenge, Mage Tower and Brawler's Guild used to be great for that, as was just solo questing before questing content got nerfed into the floor in Legion. Or maybe it's more appropriate to say players became so powerful that quest mobs became trivial and they just never adjusted mob health and damage to match.
@cosmincatea4932
@cosmincatea4932 Ай бұрын
Great Video! Wish you the best of luck, can't wait for another update on your WoW adventures
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
@koraybilgin3877
@koraybilgin3877 Ай бұрын
Mouseover is baked in to the game, you dont need any addons for it, just check it from options
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
Yup! But I misunderstood the "None" option for mouseover, so I just tried playing like total idiot. Also i typically use clique to bind a healing and dps spell on one button, so the baked in mouseover options could still use that feature
@aquagis7499
@aquagis7499 Ай бұрын
thats okay, not understanding the settings is a fundamental part of "starting wow from scratch"
@VoluntaryInk
@VoluntaryInk Ай бұрын
​@@spinnincas7203 macro function solves this takes 3 mins to setup
@IanHumito
@IanHumito Ай бұрын
@@spinnincas7203 There is also the "click Casting" mode wich is basically healbot, it still has its problems, but its usable
@Lahiss
@Lahiss Ай бұрын
It doesn't even work for me. Had to make all macros in Remix just to heal.
@PanicRolling
@PanicRolling Ай бұрын
Really well done video. Keep up the good work, man.
@Zhantzher
@Zhantzher 9 күн бұрын
11:57 because, believe it or not, Blizzard still didn't have implemented the technology for that. Only by the time of Cataclysm (or was it Mists of Pandaria) that the conventional escort quests ceased to be and escrotee NPC's just followed you around like in the modern game. 25:35 "Mouseover should be baked into the base game already". It actually is. Check your options panel.
@Nelsongonzaloo
@Nelsongonzaloo Ай бұрын
to keep balance is the best way to play IMO, I have a lot of addons to do raids or m+ but when im bored with all that stuff i just create a new character, pick a zone that i don't know and turn off all the addons, you can set a UI option to switch between one interface and the other, so having a tryhard and a immersive ui setup is the best thing to do
@louisstudden6609
@louisstudden6609 Ай бұрын
good video hope zack sees it and share your channel
@MartyKub
@MartyKub 17 күн бұрын
Blizz should delete all acces to addons so you can just play the game for the fun of it and not chasing numbers, make friends in the game and have a adventure together making memories...
@BubbaSvensson
@BubbaSvensson Күн бұрын
Yeah, would be a dream. Everything felt so much better before damage meter came and people were excluded just because they didn't follow the most optimized rotations or specs. In vanilla before damage meter we had our dagger rogue, combat rogue and hemorrhage rogue just to bring one of each and we all had our identity with different gears. Same with most of the classes. And we still had our server firsts and top europe kills. Quality of Life addons is one thing, but addons affecting the game, content, warnings and announcements etc for fights - it destroys everything and make you look more at the addons than the game. Before a raid leader was our most important leader followed by our class leaders in fights.
@SneedFormerlyChuck
@SneedFormerlyChuck 6 күн бұрын
Having fond memories of BFA is WILD
@OnlyRats_
@OnlyRats_ 18 күн бұрын
Its the dude thinking the end of BFA was good for me 🤣
@TheDissidius
@TheDissidius 21 күн бұрын
I just use the mouse overs they added in dragon flight. I wish they added it to classic....
@Sneaky_Emily
@Sneaky_Emily 26 күн бұрын
Overall really good video, I think you hit a lot of important points. One minor nitpick on the healing section - this was only added in Dragonflight kinda quietly so I get missing it - mouse over healing was added to the base UI, very similar to Clique. You can use click casting or mouse overs, there is a toggle. It's found in the keybinds section at the top.
@danielgibson3422
@danielgibson3422 Ай бұрын
In my 19 years of WoW, the only addon I ever actually installed was that officially endorsed Paggle addon that came out back in Wrath. That was pretty cool, I miss it....
@felipe1876
@felipe1876 Ай бұрын
Bro, you are really good on writting and sense of humor. LOL. I need to catch-up on DOGG series btw. I'm late
@HotaruGlaive
@HotaruGlaive 8 күн бұрын
How can you tell you are doing damage without a meter? Big yellow numbers on the boss.
@badass6300
@badass6300 Ай бұрын
I've been playing without addons since legion. Best decision ever.
@Vo1Tep
@Vo1Tep 10 күн бұрын
26:02 saves absolutely nothing, yet it's efficient, only issue is, if you have a free gcd every time, than you're doing something wrong, the thing is - while gcd is happening, that's the time to hover mouse and click (since you'll be waiting for skill to be pressable)
@thomasmartin1933
@thomasmartin1933 11 күн бұрын
danm this is chill! love it
@ICM9
@ICM9 25 күн бұрын
“…finished medical school.” Oh nice dude, congrats doctor. *proceeds to take me out back a few seconds later*
@STOKERMATHALLAN
@STOKERMATHALLAN Ай бұрын
Finally, maybe I'll know what these addons are for. If it were for me I'd have Less information on my screen
@Terixofevermore
@Terixofevermore Ай бұрын
Mans playing cataclysm classic in retail.
@KristofferGrnlid
@KristofferGrnlid 25 күн бұрын
Great video, keep up the good work
@Liloso1
@Liloso1 24 күн бұрын
mouse over is a part of the base game its in the settings you just have to put it on
@crystillgirl2503
@crystillgirl2503 Ай бұрын
good news future expansion they gona rework all zones to modern look new quest etc
@Tarkonard
@Tarkonard 23 күн бұрын
many WQs gives gear and upgrades, all of the events give gear. the mouse over is in the game now, the make ur own Ui is in the game. i dont think Dragonflight deserves all of this negative feed back. But yeah alot that was said here is true, but also alot is kinda taken abit too far.
@bradmiles1984
@bradmiles1984 Күн бұрын
Yes Blizzard is taking strides to bring in things from addons into the base game but not everything is there which is many still use elvui and other overhauls. Maybe a few xpacs don't the road they will have it all in base game.
@lizardchadillidan
@lizardchadillidan 28 күн бұрын
Me and a friend are both 100 parsers, when we try to parse we turn weakauras and everything else off... the only addon i have is a horn sound for when i receive power infusion and Details!
@Johnson217
@Johnson217 17 күн бұрын
I noticed that during Burning Crusade when I started installing add-ons I actually started having less fun because I was more self conscious of how I was doing compared to others.
@danielreeks-tz1cf
@danielreeks-tz1cf 19 күн бұрын
You don’t need Addons to do well in this game I have multie CE Achives and gotten 0.1% title for m+ without needing addons screaming at me to dodge shit
@bradmiles1984
@bradmiles1984 Күн бұрын
Can you? Yes but is it advisable or practical? No. There is a reason the top raiding guilds and m+ teams use addons.
@lazail
@lazail Ай бұрын
Holy fuck, the intro is so relatable
@nickgman3592
@nickgman3592 Ай бұрын
All i use is bartender to rearrange bars. With the new uodate they were out of date so i ran a myrhic without it. Practically 0 difference. This add on talk is a bit out of control. I used to believe it but i think its mostly hype now
@LazyLautrec
@LazyLautrec Ай бұрын
It’s so fun watching fresh retail mana users never ooming
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
In LFR, you either take no damage or someone is suddenly dead on the floor. Nothing much for a healer to do 😂
@thenameiszed5362
@thenameiszed5362 Ай бұрын
I'm new to WOW, and can't help understand what Addons are considered significant to get a better experience. The only one I have is the damage meter.
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
Well, that depends on what you consider to be a better experience. For Aesthetics, most people go for UI addons like ElvUI. More importantly Plater, because base game nameplates are pretty much the only thing about the base game UI that is really bad, especially when you're facing multiple enemies. This is especially true if you ever play a class with dots to manage. As for gameplay addons, I personally think that WeakAuras are pretty important because it helps you track your buttons. I also use Clique to enable mouseover casting and bind two abilities to one button, so that you don't have to make a macro. Most people also have a Timer addon such as DBM or BigWigs, which tracks mechanics over a boss fight, so you know when to pop your defensive and healer cooldowns. I personally prefer BigWigs as it's less intrusive. These are the addons I started with when I played BFA, and still have them on now.
@roguehavikk
@roguehavikk Ай бұрын
Just watch a bunch of addon videos , I've been playing since 2006 and still keep finding new addons I can use.
@BarlytheDwarf
@BarlytheDwarf 9 күн бұрын
I disagree with almost everything you say throughout the video, but found you perspective interesting nonetheless. Good vid!
@palladiumbang4442
@palladiumbang4442 5 күн бұрын
another guy who is showing us he played WOW, good boy :))
@JayJoestarr
@JayJoestarr Ай бұрын
I actually agree on spell bloat.
@fkaroundhandleit
@fkaroundhandleit Ай бұрын
If you hit shift + M, it'll bring up a mini map you can size up and change the transparency.
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
Thanks, didn't know that
@keats27
@keats27 8 күн бұрын
I played the better part of 20 years of it without add ons including arenas last season.
@Highstar25
@Highstar25 8 күн бұрын
I'm hoping that the recent announcement of WoW for Xbox consoles will result in blizzard actually addressing the button bloat and lack of mechanical clarity without add-ons to make the game actually functional on a console... but who am I kidding?
@onlywaxchannel
@onlywaxchannel 16 күн бұрын
I was still in pain of Invincible not dropping.
@Rapilol
@Rapilol Ай бұрын
u ever tried unholy dk ? :D and his cooldown rotation
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
I've seen someone shout it out, it's crazy how much setup you have in ST
@pipo1692
@pipo1692 24 күн бұрын
The crests math you did was totally unecessary. It is not meant to be farmed like this. You get new crests tiers for higher difficult content. You just prefered to do it the insane way.
@jameysotelo540
@jameysotelo540 24 күн бұрын
Honestly i don't really mind using ui stuff i dont think i could drop those and go back but i can easily drop dbm, dps meters, weakaura's and basically anything that isnt ui. dbm imho is not needed at all it is helpful but you do not need it
@shrimp341
@shrimp341 Ай бұрын
good vid bro
@shadowweaver1599
@shadowweaver1599 29 күн бұрын
I actually came back to this game solo sucks im hoping to find a good guild sadly it been years since i have played and even longer since i had a great guild.
@c34r34lk1ll3r
@c34r34lk1ll3r 25 күн бұрын
Ive veen pmaying since 2004 and the only stuff i really use is auction addon, deadly boss mods, damage meter and titan panel. You dont really need much else
@gustavo7074
@gustavo7074 Ай бұрын
Its fine to play even up to high heroic wirh only a damage meter. Mythic gets problematic because of some team weakauras
@jane352
@jane352 Ай бұрын
22:00 i feel this, i hate how so many people complain against solo gearing and push the idea of ONLY raids and dungeons and people stuff. I honestly dont knw if u were being sarcastic or not but I unironically want content i can do alone.
@H41030v3rki110ny0u
@H41030v3rki110ny0u 27 күн бұрын
Having content to do alone is fine, but the best items in the game should be locked behind group content ~ signed, a solo & guildless casual player
@Nilllan
@Nilllan Ай бұрын
Great video! Would love more wow content
@Asdos.
@Asdos. 6 күн бұрын
Damn your comments about not enjoying stuff because you didn’t find the rewards interesting showed me we are indeed from a different age. I’ll have classic wow and it’s flawed quest systeem anytime over the new system 😅
@u3pyg
@u3pyg Ай бұрын
Yeah.. you lost me at the "other lady" no one talks like that about Anduin.
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
Well, after seeing him in the War Within Trailer, we can never disrespect him ever again
@Aldever13
@Aldever13 Ай бұрын
I played the first 4 years without Addons
@BigHeroSixy
@BigHeroSixy 29 күн бұрын
I'm really surprised by the button bloat discussion. I could see specifically if you mention Unholy DK, its kinda festered for too long with what its opener requires but even then the amount of keybinds in this game is significantly lower than some other mmo's on the market. Also DK's are getting reworked in war within with the unholy opener being targeted specifically as hopefully being fixed. Will have to see what happens with that so they are aware of outliers concerning bloat. In general dragonflight was designed in mind to have less requirements for addons overall. Now I will say theres a ton of QoL concerning some weakauras that did eventually come to the game through patches(specifically currency and things of that nature) but when it comes to raids I dont think you really need any addons if you really dont want to use them. I can count on one hand the outliers in the raid tiers that people only really used things because it was for mythic difficulty which the majority of the player base doesn't even do. Echo of Nelth was the biggest outlier, and if your raid team wasn't good enough to do it on the fly there were macros made to do cages and orbs on smolderon/fyrakk because of the private aura shenanigans. Again this is on mythic and if your team requires it. I play primarily with a base ui as a CE raider. The majority of addon complaints are honestly exaggerated in 2024. What I will agree with is some classes need better reading of their ability procs. Thats where outliers come in concerning specs. Some procs on the base ui do not have an internal popup(blizz's own spell alerts) and without them you have to drag the buff bar and memorize the icon when it pops up. Base ui doesn't let you set relevancy either so people instead just use weakauras to have the important info pop up instead. But blizzard is on record saying that the base ui improvements are there to do well for the majority of the game(which is does) and if you become more of an enthusiast you are allowed to experiment more with some qol auras/addons which makes sense. I don't really see an issue with this. Now it would be preferable if they did eventually put that in as a ui improvement(buff priority), ff14 while being against addons/plugins they have adopted some plugins and incorporated them into the base game... just as blizz has as well. I was gonna leave it there but you mentioned you aren't interested in dungeons/raids? I do think WoW honestly lacks solo gearing and options for fun things in comparison to other mmos. That being said delves are coming in the war within to help solve this lack of content and the final boss in delves will eventually lead to a mage tower specific encounter. Mage tower was one of the best solo additions to WoW in a long time and its a shame there hasn't been a similar addition since Legion. I haven't tested higher tier delves only the initial delves(im in the alpha) but I think its a good addition to the game and I'm excited for the final boss they've talked about.
@Void_Elf
@Void_Elf Ай бұрын
@Spinninghead Yo man my wife and I started playing in BFA also and I could relate a lot to what you said in your experience in the game so far. Keep in mind Delves are coming out soon too in The War Within. That’s pretty much the solo content that it sounds like you’re looking for. Also the game has seriously had its ups and downs but it’s a community based game centralized around gearing systems so it’s always gonna have a bit of an uphill elitist feel to it in ways. However, playing with friends through mythic keys or gold making strategies is pretty fun too. Play other games too there’s tons of good RPGs out there. Bauldur’s gate 3, Elden ring, or try something totally new out like Hell divers 2 that shit was hype lol Good luck out there man, hope you have a good rest of your day.
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
I've seen a bit of Delves from streamers and so far, they just look like world quests in a scenario. Or Island Expeditions. Just running around clicking on objects while 1 shotting mobs. Hopefully the higher level Delves have more to offer. Also Baldur's Gate 3, definitely GOTY. Haven't touched Helldivers 2 or Elden Ring yet, but I have played all 3 Dark Souls games and they were fun. Now I just need a Time Machine to play all of the games.
@arthurblair2424
@arthurblair2424 20 күн бұрын
I don’t ever use add-ons. So I really don’t miss the good old days…. 😂. 😘
@kalejarmar3187
@kalejarmar3187 Ай бұрын
Visions of Nzoth was in 8.3 not 7.3 , but no worries mate =)
@mikedarling905
@mikedarling905 Ай бұрын
i got into wow 2005 and still playing. and ctch up gear sorta degrades the gear you get instantly classic did it best, you had gear, then you had t1, t2, t3, t4 it mattered and gave you an idea your level and status
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
IMO, catch-up gear is only a problem when the content of an MMO is scattered around in various raids, including old ones, such as in classic. Having catchup gear then invalidates a significant amount of the content. For retail i don't mind catchup gear, means I can play with other classes. It does become a problem for new players though, because once they level 70, they skip the learning part and are now applying to content they should not be in.
@MilkshakeGuruTTV
@MilkshakeGuruTTV Ай бұрын
Been playing WoW without addons since Legion. Sure I don't mythic raid. But I do mythic + and have been known to do heroic raids. It's not as needed as people make it out to be. Essentially when I was bored on WoD I subbed to FFXIV and cleared a ton of content and learned I liked wiping and figuring out the fights without the game always telling me what to do next. Felt like I accomplished something when I cleared it lol. (Although FFXIV has way better telegraphs so.)
@Ghostalking
@Ghostalking Ай бұрын
I played the last 20 years of wow without addons
@mps7962
@mps7962 Ай бұрын
Respect!
@MysteryMan159
@MysteryMan159 Ай бұрын
I’ve played thousands of hours without addons.
@Kadir-fw7xm
@Kadir-fw7xm 12 күн бұрын
I think nobody forgave Sylvanas. She aint a morally grey character. She is pretty much evil difference is she was good when she was alive. Shadowlands fcked up many sh*t especially with this whole "Frostmourne split souls in half" but at the end she kinda is fcked. I mean imagine somebody banishes you for A LONG LONG time to doing dailies in the maw. That sh*t is worse then death. That didnt even deserve Death Knight Arthas during his prime.
@ghoraxe9000
@ghoraxe9000 24 күн бұрын
Been playing without mods for 16+ year's... I get a lot of hate from the discord Mafia .. but those sweaty nerd's can touch Grass... I do what I want
@callesino9201
@callesino9201 26 күн бұрын
I never use meters lol
@TheRandomDude-qy1ev
@TheRandomDude-qy1ev Ай бұрын
When you use no addons. You get many advantages. 1:You learn the mechanics, perfectly 2: No need to care if an update just accured. 3:Able to focus more on your performance, than on addons telling you what you should already know by this point. 4: just generally makes you a better player.
@zirilan3398
@zirilan3398 24 күн бұрын
The problem is that harder fights are designed with addons in mind hence you`re putting yourself at a disadvantage. Which, at the end of the day doesn`t fucking matter but that`s how people like to argue. Imo: nuke all addons. Every last one of ehm
@TheRandomDude-qy1ev
@TheRandomDude-qy1ev 24 күн бұрын
@@zirilan3398 I play in a mythic guild and top the charts in my dps spec. And on my tank I play perfectly. every mechanic has a visual, or audible Q.I use no addons at all. I just learned the Qs. Now allow of people in my guild do the same, and their performance has actually increased. because instead of wondering around mindless waiting for daddy to say "go here" they learn to simply know where to be based on the Qs. Allot of mythic raiders end up not really using addons. Cause we learn everything so well, that they actually just hinder your performance at that point. Allot of people are just ignorant, and have no idea what's going on because they RELY on addons to know for them. It's really not hard. Dark souls is far more difficult.
@bradmiles1984
@bradmiles1984 Күн бұрын
@@TheRandomDude-qy1ev That's nice but it doesn't make what was said untrue. The devs have openly talked about the fights being designed with weakauras and addons in mind. Just because you can do something doesn't mean it is the most advantageous. The top players in the world use addons, top raiding guilds, and top key pushers. If you're bragging about topping DPS charts that tells everyone how little you know about the game. Topping charts or even getting highest parses nowadays are so based on getting buffs from evokers and PI. Getting top parses is more about RNG then playerskill to a point. Also when you say you top the charts is that in your guild or the world? If it's the world why aren't you in echo or limit if you do so amazing without addons?
@TheRandomDude-qy1ev
@TheRandomDude-qy1ev Күн бұрын
@@bradmiles1984 haha. I'm not in echo or anything special because I don't have the ambition to do so. I'm lazy, and often just don't play for a while. I do it merely because I get tired of needing to look at a ton of things, and listen to sounds. I want to enjoy the gameplay more than the mechanic. Of course I brag about topping the DPS chart, not sure how you'd think that makes me know very little. If you're doing all the mechanics perfectly, and you're doing top damage that only helps with progression, and the ability to push in both raids, and mythic+ keys at a high level. Very odd thing for you to say.
@bradmiles1984
@bradmiles1984 Күн бұрын
@@TheRandomDude-qy1ev The reason I say that is because topping dps is more about comp and kill times now then the individual player. Even top parsing players from top 50 guilds openly talk about this all the time. Max who leads limit/liquid has said on multiple streams when recruiting they don't look at parses they look at the player doing things in the encounter as a whole. Given that and you went out of your way to say you top the DPS charts is why I said you know little, the DPS chart for the most part is a meaningless thing. Also being top damage in your group just means your doing the most damage in your group it doesn't even mean you're doing good dps. It's very contextual to the group. If you are getting any external buffs that only one person can get like PI or evoker buff it greatly messes with the dps number. As I said before can high level play be done without addons but you're handicapping yourself quite a bit since the encounter design is done with addons in mind at the higher difficulties. Many of the devs have repeatedly said this.
@konradkowalski1681
@konradkowalski1681 29 күн бұрын
Makes me realize how weird I am for not using add-ons 😂
@DarkCulex
@DarkCulex Ай бұрын
Only add-ons I use are DBM and Details dps meter, you really don't need anything else. Nothing is wrong with the default UI BTW I've been using it all the time you just made it feel like a bad thing in this video. Just becuase you are used to these extra add-ons doesn't mean we all are.
@darkfire8008
@darkfire8008 28 күн бұрын
And even then, only need DBM for the pull timer.
@screenshotted
@screenshotted 10 күн бұрын
I don't understand how the best players in wow want better gear than everyone else while still wanting more difficult content. They should get worse gear to make the game harder. There, I fixed the game.
@andrewjackson7511
@andrewjackson7511 Ай бұрын
Thought provoking video. For me the last stop was Shadowlands. I never bought Dragonflight and won't buy War Within. The game is no longer tailored to me as I want an RPG first hand and an infinte dungeon grind second (I got the Diablo games for that).
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
Yeah, Shadowlands really burned a lot of people out of WoW. Dragonflight IS an improvement over it, grind-wise, but the game's content has honestly become too formulaic
@skemax
@skemax Ай бұрын
I think Pandaria was the last expansion that was REALLY WoW. After that the game changed too much and sadly I would say for worse. :/
@Solidfunctions
@Solidfunctions 22 күн бұрын
Try wow assension.
@richiepipes8960
@richiepipes8960 Ай бұрын
Try outlaw rogue without addons lmao
@usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052
@usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052 29 күн бұрын
this dude talking about "button bloat" as if 90% of heal specs theye days dont have a 3 button rotation that heals everyone, damages enemies, applies buffs, takes your kids to school AND pays your taxes for you
@nicholassaves
@nicholassaves 12 күн бұрын
I dont use addons at all.
@crystillgirl2503
@crystillgirl2503 Ай бұрын
and next expansion will have delves might be for u ;)
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
Delves look like Island Expeditions rather than Visions of Nzoth or Magetower tbh, but hopefully the higher difficulty ones prove me wrong
@crystillgirl2503
@crystillgirl2503 Ай бұрын
@@spinnincas7203 well it gona have at start 3 dif and it gona drop heroic raid gear
@crystillgirl2503
@crystillgirl2503 Ай бұрын
@@spinnincas7203 third one will be hard plus u have to do world content to get some keys for BEST chests to open in delves
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
In my opinion, having it reward non myth track gear, just means that it becomes a thing you do during the first one or two of every patch and then forget because getting heroic and myth track gear from doing m+ is both far easier and also actually fun (most of the time) but again, without actually seeing their final plans for it, I remain unhyped for it
@vicentedonate2988
@vicentedonate2988 Ай бұрын
I played 2k of hours without addons or macros xD
@Level1Bacon
@Level1Bacon 19 күн бұрын
100 hours isnt shit in this game
@user-wh6wq5td4r
@user-wh6wq5td4r Ай бұрын
Video Nice job 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
@xdsagecat3920
@xdsagecat3920 Ай бұрын
Here before bald man comes
@zealox1148
@zealox1148 Ай бұрын
You know macros right? Does it count as addons?
@eetdeth86
@eetdeth86 25 күн бұрын
No
@user-se3ii5sz7n
@user-se3ii5sz7n Ай бұрын
Cant wait to when some bald guy react to this and make 100 gazzilion vies on stolen content
@DirtCat
@DirtCat Ай бұрын
Playing retail without addons isn't hard to do. Just have to pay attention more and know on what you are doing.
@kileNoe
@kileNoe Ай бұрын
Kinda suss you dont use curseforge. I like add-ons
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
who doesn't use curseforge tbh
@vireoboss8290
@vireoboss8290 15 күн бұрын
my guy the reason we gatekeep shit systems like you want (some bullshit like visons to farm cloak and gear) is cuz we have to do it too in addition to M+ split raids and our progress raid not cuz we care about a rnd Casuals gear lvl and my guys said DPS is the easiest role in the game LMAO you have to peak perform dps while doing mechanics and juggle defensives cuz early prob dps spikes you in 1 or 2 hits, while healers jobs is to keep you alive and tanks job is to not die without any performance requirements
@TheGamingInvestor
@TheGamingInvestor 29 күн бұрын
W video
@tab7302
@tab7302 8 күн бұрын
A comment for KZbin algorithm ;)
@Luxumbra69
@Luxumbra69 20 күн бұрын
imagine hating on WoW for the singular thing that makes it unique and successful lol.
@Ichigomusu
@Ichigomusu Ай бұрын
The clickbait. I thought it will be an addon whining video, not solo gameplay whining video. Play RPG solo. MMORPG are meant to play with people. Wow is totally playable without addons except for damage meter, although you can delete damage meter and analyze logs after fights. One of my friends does mythic raiding without addons and does just fine, making hardest raid mechanics just by looking at buffs/debuffs and watching boss animations and cast-bars.
@Gemini-dp6yn
@Gemini-dp6yn 16 күн бұрын
so you guys have phones
@prodroxs
@prodroxs Ай бұрын
Lmao Iv been playing wow about 20 years and only once in one expansion use dps meter ? 🤣😂🤣😂
@ezequielalfaro1237
@ezequielalfaro1237 Ай бұрын
you have to play FF14 to appreciate dont using addons.
@spinnincas7203
@spinnincas7203 Ай бұрын
one day, for 100 hours
@Aztonio
@Aztonio 16 күн бұрын
Welcome to the 1000th episode of "I am so pissed of by Shadowlands i'm gonna act as if it's the worst thing ever but i'm just a child"
@MageSkeleton
@MageSkeleton Ай бұрын
1: You play World of Warcraft for the world, you play Guild Wars II because it's the "better game." 2: i was one of the best healers, people wanted me in their group. Then someone told me "use healbot USE HEALBOT" so i installed healbot... Didn't do anything except target me, i was supposed to just "mouse over" and press heal skill and it would heal that player? nothing worked. So i got rid of it. After doing a dungeon, someone remarked how they were glad i was using "healbot" and i told them i got rid of that none sense a long time ago. They never invited me to do another dungeon or raid, only because i refused to use "healbot" despite how well i was able to do my healing thing without it. 3: i firmly believe, if ARENANET did the "World" connectivity thing, combining all the different maps together without loading screen portals. They'd easily become number one. But they won't. Cause it would cost money.
@kril859
@kril859 21 күн бұрын
Poor guy played 100 hours WOW. Rest in peace 🙏
@mnkyboy0505
@mnkyboy0505 20 күн бұрын
I have Player 8000 Hours over 14 years 😅😅😅
@TQV3
@TQV3 Ай бұрын
this commentary is so bitter it makes the wow subreddit look blindly joyous by comparison. also, mouseover has been a base game thing since 2021. this challenge is hardly one.
@Zhohan-
@Zhohan- 15 күн бұрын
Read the quest text, scrub
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