tank and princess are probably the most “control them yourself for the love of god” classes, the ai cant be trusted
@okperf52105 ай бұрын
i have to agree here. i just got back in and my princess (who i put on my main team as i wanted to create a "story"), whom i was expecting great things from, totally threw for no reason. she was the second strongest on the team and the first one dead 💀
@gbpakgirl262 ай бұрын
As someone who has an AI princess, they aren’t the worst. They are actually pretty good, my only complaint is that they use Ultimate Royal Wave more.
@Cyaaiggy778 күн бұрын
Tanks purposely ruin friendships
@eightybug09856 күн бұрын
You idk what y'all are on about. One of my best Miis in miitopia was the ai controlled princess. That job is OP.
@michelecastellotti91722 күн бұрын
That and the chef. In your hands the chef is esentially an unstoppable beast that can tank anything and dish out an insane amount of damage for an offensive support class and keep your team alive easily. In the AI hands tho... oooooooh mama
@msmiscellaneous5933 Жыл бұрын
I personally really like the princess but understand your criticisms. I never noticed the ai issue because I always play as the princess. It’s much easier when you can control the royal dance
@mynameskris Жыл бұрын
i feel like the princess shouldve been higher because i had to change one of my party members jobs, a pop star, to a princess because pop star just wasnt cutting it and i saw HUGE improvements from said party member.
@webkinzxxx6 ай бұрын
Same.
@styxranger436 Жыл бұрын
I think the AI being such a vital part of the game that people should start doing tier lists for both AI and Player jobs
@thunderstar76826 ай бұрын
True cuz every job is good but the AI just butchers everything My Elf rarely uses forest Aegis or any multi hit attack and always goes for healing which sucks cuz I also bring cleric in my teams
@hatsunemiku24836 ай бұрын
@@thunderstar7682strange, i feel like my elf uses forest aegis a lot
@thunderstar76826 ай бұрын
@@hatsunemiku2483 yeah the elf will use Aegis my issue is that they act as if the move has a cool down and take forever to fully buff the team because they try to do other things like healing and spamming dancing arrow
@Samsungsmartfridge194 ай бұрын
@@thunderstar7682my vampire uses bite when he still has like 90% hp
@wutadam6 ай бұрын
Of course, personalities also come into play, with things like Stubborn Tanks making everyone hate them, and Cool Princesses being nearly immune to physical damage. There's technically 98 classes if you count each class and personality combination separately.
@GKMedoh5 ай бұрын
I think a Laid-back Tank could be worse when it comes to quarrels
@cerealkilleryt2 ай бұрын
@@GKMedoh I had one on my first account lol. Always cadging and cannonballing.
@zzzmeta4555Ай бұрын
Cool Thief is also really good for dodgetanking
@shadowsansvii8715 Жыл бұрын
A list that actually makes sense, from a miitopia fan no less. I thought I’d never see the day.
@StevenJones8519 ай бұрын
This list is really good
@user-kh8du7fv2l6 ай бұрын
Tank is underrated you just don’t die and if you are worried about human cannonball just be the tank
@skitstheskitty27878 ай бұрын
pop star as a player is a little cracked. encore + the safe spot is literally a 2 mp heal spell that heals 200+ hp and 50+ mp to an ally. and like you said, it has everything else it needs in its versatile kit. the horse whispering literally full heals, makes enemies dance, and HYPES UP YOUR TEAM. i have no clue why i see pop star in low tiers in some tier list
@qwerty37938 ай бұрын
Pop star as a player is absolutely underrated (Encore alone is busted, and Love and Peace is incredible and totally unique) but it is pretty abysmal when the AI is in control. Be prepared for them to spam Love Song in minor battles, take their sweet time to use Love and Peace to end a quarrel, and just generally struggle to provide either the damage or the level of support that other classes can. It isn't the worst class, but its AI has notable problems that make people rate it low overall.
@randomness.stupidness4 ай бұрын
ITS STRAIGHT UP BUSTED
@jasoncharlton1615 Жыл бұрын
The reason why vampire and elf are better is because you get them in the postgame
@Alexander1227610 ай бұрын
Actually you can get vampire mid game, not post! Given you did everything right. Basically your main character should be atleast level 19 or 20 then you have to progress through the eerie road jewel quest for the tower. Then if you have atleast one other quest done and over with before that, the vampire guest mii will appear and you can do the vampire quest.
@StevenJones8519 ай бұрын
@@Alexander12276i wish i knew that beforehand
@KopperNeoman9 ай бұрын
@@Alexander12276Lategame, not mid. If you could get Elf in the main game though, it would be shit. It takes way too long to learn spells.
@Alexander122769 ай бұрын
@@KopperNeoman oh you're right. Mid game would be more neksdor or realm of the fay
@Sonic448856 ай бұрын
Id say mid game would be more karkaton or whatever the 4th area is called
@poke4074 Жыл бұрын
I always use the flower with my mii because my favorite pokemon type is grass. and Horse whispering with the flower is OP. Fully heals and revives everyone as well as making them happy
@michaelkowal32306 ай бұрын
Your comment reminds me of the idea of having every character be a pokemon with the main character being ditto, the best pokemon for the flower role is sunflora
@dropthehatantonycraft75166 ай бұрын
@@michaelkowal3230 Or Mew.
@michaelkowal32306 ай бұрын
@@dropthehatantonycraft7516 I don't use legendaries for the party, I tend to use them for the other main characters, the three elf sisters for example are the lake trio whilst the genie is one of the forces of nature, besides: Ditto's gimmick is taking on different appearances whilst Mew's most well known for learning every TM
@Luis-kl6nx Жыл бұрын
miitopia is litteraly the game of all time, its super fun! + the soundtracks are absolutely FIRE.
@yehhrhrhehehjeyukiteruyacu4836 Жыл бұрын
yes i 100% agree
@BraydenPlays100-en7jc6 ай бұрын
Yet no game of the year
@randomness.stupidness4 ай бұрын
LITERALLYYYYY
@FectoMemoria7 ай бұрын
I honestly really like the Chef class, considering the fact that it can both heal and do damage more efficiently than, say, the Cleric can
@Incinerated-rogue76 ай бұрын
Me too I am always the chef
@aegisScale6 ай бұрын
It's a good secondary healer, especially when you're playing as one, and its damage is both solid and efficient.
@rowanh82084 ай бұрын
i do, but it doesnt heal in percentages and heals in plain numbers so when it's a higher level and can do the maestro it eventually wont heal as much as cleric would, and for feast it always takes an extra turn and panacea heals everyone in a turn
@plutoproductions96503 ай бұрын
I agree I feel like the Chef is like the princess and tank it’s better if you use it instead of the AI
@Jacobturtle8 ай бұрын
Good cool video that I generally agree with. Except Princess. Princess is pretty decent on its own, but becomes amazing when you control them. For example you can indefinitely stun all enemies, and also make enemies (including bosses) take 50% more damage while also dealing solid damage. The Princess horse whispering is also very good. Also: 1. Mage and Cleric have almost perfect ai with 100% chances to use their important skills. 2. Speed matters less than you think since everyone gets their turn anyways. 3. MP issues can be remedied with sprinkles.
@Pam2345 ай бұрын
Speed definitely matters
@okperf52105 ай бұрын
speed matters if everyone on the team isn't bulky, and im sure nost players dont go for bulky builds
@JacobTheToadMan Жыл бұрын
Chef will always be my go-to Job. It does kinda suck not having a revive, but I feel it makes up for that with its pretty consistent early damage despite being another healer class (plus I just like food lol)
@Incinerated-rogue76 ай бұрын
Same lol
@purevanilla18696 ай бұрын
My chef is the best mii on my team 😁
@rowanh82084 ай бұрын
I like using chef but imo cleric is the essential support early postgame since it heals in percentages
@Jessie_Jackson_joy Жыл бұрын
Princess is top tier not for teammates though, then it kinda sucks. Its a fantastic support also fun or at least to me anyways
@aegisScale6 ай бұрын
I think Princess would be a much better job on the AI if they spammed High Tea or cologne, since that's what I tended to do as the Princess. Tea is probably one of the best MP recovery moves in the game, especially since it builds relationships.
@lukedoesntupload Жыл бұрын
in my opinion, you should always have a princess OR a scientist on the team. because i chose those ones specifically, you can probably tell why, but i'll tell you anyway. blindfold and safety mask.
@DoneThatSeenThat Жыл бұрын
As a Cleric Enjoyer, I find the flower slander a bit rude. The best way to think of flower is an offensive version of the cleric, they have great healing and the power to revive teammates, with the offensive capabilities and an AOE attack. Flower is definitely worse than allot of jobs but in no way is it worse than tank.
@DoneThatSeenThat Жыл бұрын
If you do see this comment though, you should make an follow up video explaining the best team layout for these jobs, and how to optimize their damage / what jobs to put on the AI
@ndentok Жыл бұрын
ATE THAT i should stop replying to everyone’s comments. i go on youtube for like a day every month lol i totally agree. idk what it’s called i think it’s an aoe attack idk what is stands for but when it hits all enemies, is just so useful. although bluster is crap hurricane is actually alright!!!! it is so fun to play as main character as it. i kinda feel like if chef is a 50/50 split of attacking and defence, flower is a 60/60 (i know that dosent make sense i hope u understand) it also deserves extra points for its cute little flower gear :3
@mouthwaterin9 ай бұрын
@@ndentoknice bio u got there
@adva12829 ай бұрын
So. I've been playing this game since it came out for 3ds, I have done more than 10 playthroughs, and have a VERY vast knowledge of the game. I do agree on some things, but not on others. I'll drop my ranking and explanations (as the player controlling the jobs, not the AI!!). Note: I never use snacks, sprinklers nor the safe spot because I find the game to be more fun like that, so the rankings won't take those into account. 14. Thief: There are no bad jobs in the game. Except this one. I'm pretty sure there's 4 main classes in the game: Tank (Warrior, Tank, Vampire), Glass-Cannon (Mage, Cat, Scientist), Healer (Cleric, Chef, Flower) and Support (Pop-Star, Thief, Imp, Princess, Elf). For a Support, Thief is pretty horrible. It can set up the electric trap and the big electric trap, but it gets pretty underwhelming pretty quickly, and costs 1 turn. Then, it's quite fast, so maybe it could be an offensive Support... but it barely does decent damage compared to other jobs. It can take a lot of hits, but why would that even be useful when your Supporting capabilities are just trash? So, we've got a support job that can't support adequately, nor do proper damage. Stealing HP Bananas from enemies is the ONLY nish this job has. 13. Pop-Star: Sigh... this job is decent, but easily surpassed by others (mostly Princess). Pop-Stars are probably the most versatile Miis in the game. Problem comes when you do a ton of things, but in a very little scale. You can heal yourself (and your teammates with RNG)? Nice! Good luck getting 10HP for your teammates. Same story for MP. You can distract enemies indefinitely? Nice, good luck getting that first 30% chance when the Princess has a 70% chance. You can revive everyone? Nice, good luck getting that 50/50. Like the thief, it can also take hits, but it does very little damage. Only reason is higher is because Pop-Stars can actually be useful supports. Also, Encore is REALLY good, and the only real reason you want to use one. 12. Flower: In a nutshell, Flower is a Pop-Star that can heal. It doesn't get as many support skills, but enraging can be pretty nice, and Hurricane is VERY strong. Only reason it's not higher is because the Flower is quite limited, bot being able to do much more, on top of not being a very good healer (it heals very little even when highly invested in magic. Like what you said in the video, Cleric is the way to go for that reason. No 50/50 revival either). 11. Mage: Please don't burn me alive. In my experience, Mages are good, but have two major flaws. The first one and less important, is that they don't take hits at all. I said it's not that important because of Barrier, which helps with this weakness. Now, the other flaw singlehandedly made me put the Mage this low. It burns through MP SO QUICKLY. Normally, with MP candies, sprinklers and the Safe Spot that wouldn't be a problem. However, since that's not the case, running a Mage requieres a shit ton of support and it's not that viable. It hits like a truck, but that's not enough. It would be a different story if Mages didn't require of magic to actually function. Cat would be pretty low if it weren't for that 10. Chef: Chef (alongside with Imp) is my favourite job. They pack a punch, and resist a lot of attacks. Their healing is really decent, too. The two main problems are that it doesn't take magic hits well at all, which can't really be helped, and that in spite of being a healer, it can't revive. Not much more to say for this one 9: Princess: From here on out are the best jobs in the game. This has to be one of my favourite jobs to use, too. Princesses' support is amazing, especially Regal Dance. You can cheese pretty much every non-boss battle with that skill. Then, they have the perfume skill, which is broken. Being able to hit for double damage for some turns to enemies and bosses is broken. Best part is, for every ally supporting your Dance or your Parfume, it gains a 10% chance of hitting, and both have a 70% chance of hitting each foe individually. This makes it possible to basically win from turn 1 almost every time just by spamming Regal Dance. Princess has one of the worst resistances in the game, but being able to avoid attacks like the Thief makes up for it. At least someone makes a good use of it, right, Thief? :D Princesses also do a lot of damage, and can recover MP (although only a little, so not that good) 8. Cleric: The best healer in the game. It heals for a LOT of HP, can revive with 100% of accuracy, has a strong magic attack, and a nasty 50/50 1HKO move. Only disadvantage is low defense, which can be compensated with an Elf using Barriers, or any other Class that can revive, such as Warriors. 7. Tank: they're the worst Tank class in the game, and yet, they're up here. I feel like saying anything would be repeating what you said, because I would say the same things. Tanks can be monsters and lifesavers, you just have to level them up and have some patience. 6. Cat: Cats can dish the most amount of damage in 1 turn. They can also heal themselves, cure status for themselves, heal teammate's MP by a decent amount, and are surprisingly good at taking hits. Like the Mage, they BURN through MP, but this can be compensated by using their normal attack or some inferior skills. Difference is, Mages using Flare, no matter how boosted and supported, won't do much damage. Cats with their initial single target skill or basic attack, boosted by their first skill or some supporting teammates, can DESTROY enemies. This is what makes the Cat so good. 5: Scientist: for me, top 5 is the 5 best jobs in the game and by quite the margin. Scientists are just Mages but with a lot of support capabilities. They burn through MP relatively quickly, but they can self restore it. They also take hits poorly, but not as poorly as the Mage does, and can for once use their normal attack. It wont do tons of damage, but at least it does decent enough damage to be useful. Mages feel like they attack with a leaf or something with how physically weak they are 4. Warrior: Warrior is your typical RPG class. Basically what you said. Excellent offense, excellent defense, they have low MP but it doesn't burn thaaaat quickly, can slap disrupted teammates, and for a Tank, it surprisingly has a reviving move. ONLY downside is that they have low magic, resulting in weakness to magic attacks, but one weakness is nothing compared to every positive aspect. 3. Imp: By far the best starting class and my go-to most of the time. It doesn't have a single weakness. It can self-heal both HP (which can be further recovered if previously whispered) and MP. There's times where I've recovered all of my health using whisper + HP steal on a boss. Whispering is 100% accurate, although it only targets one foe. This, though, makes it ideal for bosses. It's magic attacks are not that amazing, but comboed with whisper can literally BREAK. Then, you can make your teammates HYPER, yes, HYPER with a skill, and force them to attack multiple times with the pitchfork. Imagine a team of Imp, Warrior, Cleric and Cat. Just make Warrior and Cat hyper, whisper into the boss, and start pinching them while the cleric heals any damage. You would think that with that broken synergy, Imps would have low resistance, but not at all, they have a TON of HP, and really good Magic and Defense, making for an extremely hard to kill class. Their only real flaw is their low attack, so they can't really normal attack, but forcing a stronger teammate to attack in your place when there's nothing better to do makes up for it. There's just nothing bad to this class, you just have to know how to exploit it properly. 2. Vampire: Broken. Can revive themselves, give that power to teammates, does insane magic damage, really good spread damage with normal attack, infinite thorns, Bite (which synergizes with Princess perfume or Imp whisper), takes hits INCREDIBLY good... they're the perfect class. If Imp had no weakness, Vampire creates those weaknesses for the foes. 1. Imp: fking broken pls ban. Honestly, pretty decent, but kinda underwhelming. Like Pop-Star, but with less versatility but much better effects. Decent damage output. Mid tier. Then you get the barrier ability (most broken in the game by far btw), counter arrow, and discover you can do the same thing that the Princess does cheesing enemies. Once an enemy (non-boss) gets hit by a dancing arrow, as long as you spam the move, the enemy will forever be dancing in an eternal loop of dancing agony. Not good against bosses, which makes the Princess better for that tactic, as they can hit every target, but oh well. Having an Elf on the party automatically halves the damage taken (Barrier), gives extra healing (I assume people are not that idiotic to not have a proper healer at least), and restores some MP, a very rare thing in the game. It only needs reviving. If Scientist, Warrior and Imp are A tier, and Vampire is S tier, Elf is DLC tier because it's so broken. Those are my thoughts as an expert Miitopia player. Also, English is not my native language, so for anyone reading this, which I doubt will happen, that's the reason I didn't use many skill names. I don't know how they're called in English and just guessing would confuse anyone, so sorry about that💀 Also, if you read till here, you have my most sincere appreciation. You are a true chad
@reloadtoad9 ай бұрын
Listen I love this, i have also been playing since the 3ds and done like 6-7 playthroughs altogether, and also do not use snacks or sprinkles. I think my biggest mistake with this ranking was taking AI into account and your ranking kinda had me realise that some jobs should have been ranked higher such as the princess I do actually agree with a lot you have said and i do appreciate you taking the time to write your list, the only thing i really disagree on is thief being last, Im not exactly sure if its fair to assume that the thief is a support role, like it definitely does tick all of the boxes of being support but it mainly supports itself rather than anyone else, I mainly ranked it higher up because it is very hard for it to get taken out, backflip, traps, and sneak attacks prevent it from getting hit other than that though I really love your list.
@simondavidras47386 ай бұрын
I agree, one issue though, you misspelled "elf" as "imp"
@laurenfisher5856 ай бұрын
I actually love the Thief job, but I understand why you hate it. Personally, I like hitting more than one target. Running into battles with slimes can end on the first or second turn depending on how strong your Thief is. And its Horse Whispering move has a chance to steal food items as well.
@-..Starxyy..-4 ай бұрын
Idk why ppl like popstar, I'm sorry but, all they do is, "love me" or one of those useless moves that just boost things that no one needs, if that's just for me, I'm just really unlucky.
@SirenPandaSabo6 ай бұрын
Toad: What is a job? It is something you don't have. Me: Ayo! *giggles*
@yehhrhrhehehjeyukiteruyacu4836 Жыл бұрын
My main team is Imp, Mage, Scientist, and Flower While in boss battles, my scientist goes out first, he is pretty good, same with my mage. I use the flower as my healer, and my job is the imp. I honestly agree with all of these rankings, the imp may be good, but some attacks aren’t too good compared to other jobs. And of course, if one of my team members gets sick, i use my Cat as a back up 😎 also the Elf job really is the best.
@Jawednot2 ай бұрын
Not really for ai. They never use forest aieges
@ourpledude6 ай бұрын
I personally have Elf as my Mii’s main job because my Mii’s personality is Laid-Back, and it can seriously help out when it comes to healing and major damage. The less damage shield can also be for all so I can agree that it’s one of the best jobs in Miitopia imo.
@jet_set86486 ай бұрын
Overall pretty nice list. I’m a bit shocked to see the Cleric so low, considering how essential it can be for postgame areas as well as its really good AI (in my opinion, anyway).
@uforad1706 ай бұрын
the cat goes insane if you have a scientist on the same team to ignite weapons. ive gotten tons of kills from the cat using its basic attack and the scientist igniting its lil paws. good job Eminem the Cat.
@charliebarr65915 ай бұрын
Ikr it kills instantly
@flotston6963 Жыл бұрын
Cant believe you talked about my “Princess Kim Kardashian” that way
@demopan10676 ай бұрын
The worst part of mage is when the ai uses sleep tight when you have a cleric
@charliebarr65915 ай бұрын
Ok it's so annoying that's why I decided to be the mage
@NotroLPS11 ай бұрын
When I’m grinding for money, my team contains some of your worst jobs. I bring my cleric, chef, pop star, and princess. The cleric is super high level with healing capabilities and good damage (aura and righteous anger). The chef is probably the most easily replaceable, but I like to bring him because he has great relationships with all the other miis. The pop star can end any arguments that the chef causes with spicy food (plus my princess happens to be stubborn and my cleric is kind, so they can both make people mad.). This way I don’t have to worry much about rearranging the rooms if an argument breaks out. As for the princess, they can replenish MP. Not only that, but my preferred grinding spot has twergulls, so they can protect the team from their teasing. Is it a perfect strategy? Maybe not, but it works for me.
@okperf52106 ай бұрын
popstar in my opinion is hands down the best for the player in my opinion. they're incredibly bulky, and play a more technical role rather than strictly offense, defense or support. popstar can literally play any role your party may be lacking at any point in any battle and has gotten me out of so many pinches. yeah its horrible for the ai, but i have to disagree with it being bad in any sense of the way
@charliebarr65915 ай бұрын
😊
@em-diamond97696 ай бұрын
Fun fact: you can mix sharpen claws with hyper sprinkles. Thsts like 4x damage or something. Ow
@charliebarr65915 ай бұрын
Thx for the fact I actually didn't know!:)
@baileyshep16446 ай бұрын
As a Tank main, I approve of how you explained it, despite its low ranking. It really does work with the right teammates.
@chaerryoung_ Жыл бұрын
Cleric is a great job for your team members, but not for the player.
@KopperNeoman9 ай бұрын
I find it's the opposite. The AI can't really manage heals that well.
@SpectralTheif6 ай бұрын
cat sacrifices dignity, but you gain PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER!!!
@charliebarr65915 ай бұрын
😸
@mollylarsen98126 ай бұрын
I agree so much that cat is underated more people need to use it
@antoineschemel85642 ай бұрын
this job only makes me want to play the game
@Literallytheplanetsaturn Жыл бұрын
if u use food to boost the tank's speed and mp, its actually kinda good
@Bjix Жыл бұрын
It isn’t compared to other jobs tho, lategame the tank is better but it’s outclassed by most other roles and requires a very specific team to facilitate and mitigate its quirks which is hard to set up and isn’t worth the investment when there are better roles. But the tank is still quite good if you know what ur doing and have the right set-up
@qnybucks5 ай бұрын
and, im guessing you also need to actually be the one controlling the tank too...
@DannielisVeryBored Жыл бұрын
As much as I disagree with most of this video, I understand where you're coming from. For me my list is: 1:Mage 2:Princess 3:Cleric 4:Chef 5:Scientist 6:Pop Star 7:Vampire 8:Cat 9:Thief 10:Elf 11:Imp 12:Warrior 13:Tank 14:Flower I understand your points for Princess to me it's just the best supporting job to me. It basically has everything. A status block via Blindfold, an attack block via escort attacking moves via Royal and Double Royal Wave, AOE moves via Ultimate Royal Wave, supporting moves via Dance and Cologne and an MP heal via high tea. All of these come in handy and there's never a time when at least one of these won't help you. Chef, while yes, not having a revive, I don't think really needs one. Chef's basically a 3 in 1 job. It's a Cleric with it's healing moves, a Warrior via the attacking moves it has via Flambe and the Spicy dishes, and a Pop Star with the bulk ith has. And while it may seem hypocritical to bash Tank for annoying everyone on the team, Chef can't really be bashed for Spicy Dish since it can just be used on the same mii after it already became pissed since after that, it becomes a very powerful magic attack for 3 MP with BASICALLY NO DRAWBACK. As for Elf, I get why people always rank it at the very top, I simply do not see it. Yes, Forest Aegis is an incredible skill and Hail of Arrows is a pretty good AOE attack. Everything else is just Fab Fairy abilities or random nothing abilities. I feel like people simply just look at Forest Aegis and Hail or Arrow and automatically rank it as the best in the game, which isn't always true. For Vampire, I don't have much speaking room since I only ever got to around level 25 but I can see why it would be that good but I can't really speak that much for it since I don't really use it. For Cleric, I believe it should be higher for a reason you stated in the video. Without it, you whole team completely falls apart. It has the only guaranteed revive in the entire game with Giga Res. Calm might seem useless on the outside but in certain situations it is an absolute lifesaver.
@reloadtoad Жыл бұрын
cool takes
@DoneThatSeenThat Жыл бұрын
elf is universally the best job in the game, this isn’t just a rare take its a pretty common consensus in the community. I agree with vampire but only because I think its a WORSE mage if anything, succeeding in idle play / grinding instead of damage output.
@DannielisVeryBored Жыл бұрын
@@DoneThatSeenThat I can see how Vampire would excel at those things specifically and, yes, I know Elf is cosidered by the whole community as the best but I just can't see it. I whole-heartedly know I'm the outlier here but still. I don't get why people consider it so good if to me it only has 2 good abilities.
@ndentok Жыл бұрын
i think your really cool. i said it already but i deleted it cause it was really cringe but i like your vids
@DannielisVeryBored Жыл бұрын
@@ndentok Thanks!
@PewPawPows6 ай бұрын
I just got Miitopia on my birthday and i originally wanted to give my main Mii (who's also an OC) a thief job at the start of the game but accidentaly picked chef instead and got frustrated about it, what's worse is that i'd had to restart the game for that (which is the only reset option) but that'd cost the fair amount of miis i got before playing. Now i mind it less because it helps my teammates get closer with her by feeding them. Besides, is there anything better than lending out a helping hand?
@tyquil8255 ай бұрын
I used to think popstar wasn’t that good but just meh but when I used them with me as elf/tank, a scientist and a thief, it shined as it was able to allow me to always forest aegis or attack faster as tank, copy my 99 lvl relationship and revive anyone who goes down, granted it is inconsistent but they can survive with impressive defenses
@Mixer_1236 ай бұрын
This video is really well thought out. I use chef for its somewhat alright damage and it's healing.
@aceash5.065 Жыл бұрын
I was honestly surprised when you put flower over princess. Princess is really good and flower is really shut.
@HalvoDraws10 ай бұрын
id swap chef with tank, cus it needs mp to attack at all and the ai is very likely to use the moves that cause quarrels which isnt ideal meanwhile chef is basically a more offensive claric, swapping the ability to revive for more offensive moves
@jacobmorris63578 ай бұрын
Past the early game, the MP cost is trivial, and the quarrel mechanic is laughably unpunishing, especially with the switch version dumping outing tickets in bulk into your inventory
@shinesoul74725 ай бұрын
Cat, Mage, Vampire, and Elf. Huh, 2 of my main 5 are in there(PopStar, Scientist, and Thief are my other 3 high lv Miis). The moment I found out Cats could self heal AND restore Ally MP i was always making it my Hero mii’s end game job
@lucastheunfunnyguy6 ай бұрын
I have a funny chef story in like 2 turns I instantly killed the boss that gives you the elf charm I was dying of shock and laughter
@ndentok Жыл бұрын
i think princess should be higher it’s ai is alright and is good as main character flower should be higher. hurricane is powerful idc what anyone sais lol also mega flower bed does get all miis to full hp, ok the cleric CAN heal more but what is the point if it just overrides full health? i totally agree with chef tbh! it lacks a decent attack, that dosent cause quarrels tank is also good lols i like it a lot! i think it’s a good job but i still think it needs to do more damage lol, or more defence stat thief should be lower imo.. it does little to no damage and the fact it is the fastest job isn’t really a big deal in my opinion. speed dosent really effect gameplay tbh 😭 i loveee imp! i would also place it mid. charm is actually great. and demonic whisper is so op. wicked pitchforks can do iinsane damage if at the right moment idrk about cleric. it’s good but so boring like you said scientist opinion is valid but as playing in as main character it’s 5 skills get boring lolz. i usually don’t have a problem with its mp tho tbh pop star is agreeable angelic voice is amazing. it’s damage skills are bad though, and it’s ai is trashhhhh warrior is a good main character role. i cba to write anymore. i agree with the last ones cool vid
@plutoproductions96503 ай бұрын
The reason why I really like Warrior is that it can combo really well. Especially if it’s stubborn. Once I witnessed a warrior doing 3 turns worth of damage. 1st does a normal attack 2nd gets Encored by the popstar 3rd stubborn trait and attacks a third time.
@jaimeel47666 ай бұрын
Flower I think is a bit better, as it's healing is way superior to the elf at least when you play as flower
@charliebarr65915 ай бұрын
Ur correct but the ai sucks
@lukewoolwine1412Ай бұрын
I personally love the flower! I would say it’s personally my favorite job!
@CinqAssocSouthSect5DonQuixote4 ай бұрын
i listened to this and thought "PRINCESS SLANDER!!!" and then i remembered ai classes existed and i always used a player princess. good video
@Galactica6212 күн бұрын
Tank is personally my favorite job. It can be very effective if you know how to use Mp candy’s, and sprinkles!
@michelecastellotti91722 күн бұрын
I dunno, chef is... actually quite good in my opinion. Healing wise it heals more than the cleric on average, it hits hard (5th highest attack stat), tanks like a mf and while yes, miis will get mad at you, spicy dinner does a METRIC F*CK TON of damage to single targets and can be helpful against multiple targets as well, also the healing can quickly get rid of the downside since miis that are mad at you will rapidly calm down. I see your point tho, chef is great if YOU are using it, for NPCs tho... eeeeh, not quite, it becomes unreliable in those jobs.
@Olliemaxx1 Жыл бұрын
I know you said its your opinion so keep that in mind I understand your concerns with the Princess Job. And its not at all the best if given to AI, and may not have that good of defence, but your criticism to its magic stat only being useful for Royal wave is missing the fact that all Royal wave variants are the only attacking skills the princess learns, and they are really good magic moves. I feel like you did the princess job dirty. When your MP runs out, Sprinkles, candy, and the skill High Tea are all there to keep your MP high enough to continue using Royal wave. Regal dance and Eau de cologne are really great for debuffing the enemies to use Royal wave on, and for your allies to attack them and do more damage. and finally, Escort gives you a 20% chance of being rescued by a friend and taking 0 damage, it costs 0 MP, and acts almost like an extra personality trait. I’d say thats a pretty stacked job and I rate it 8/10 for MC, and 5/10 for AI Allies because they can be frustrating at times. But overall, it didn’t deserve to be trashed on like that and overlooked. But I understand that we all have different experiences with the jobs. My 2 worst job choices fit more atleast for me and my many experiences with them aswell as their overall abilities. 1. Popstar Distracting enemies, restoring friendships, Reviving and healing MP and HP, and multi attacking boomerang- like microphone are pretty good, the first skill you can actually use to attack with also unfortunately damages your friends. and the 2nd (also only other) attack is learned way later so you are stuck with very limited attacks and 100% NEED to rely on your (hopefully) much stronger allies to get the job done. The distracting, friendship restoring, healing skills are the only main pros this job really even has (plus the fashionable outfits). For MC I give this a 5/10. For AI Allies I give this a 2/10. could be better (way better) 2. Tank The tank, even though its very bulky and can deal good damage, relies way to heavily on its MP stat, and if it runs out, its basically useless. When you first get the job, you can only attack twice before your MP runs out at the default (No food boost) of 4 MP. It doesnt have an MP boosting move like the Imp or Princess, so you better hope you and your friends have MP candies, MP boosting moves from others, or sprinkles left over. its early attack skills hurt not only the enemy, but ALSO your friend’s health and friendships. Its really good later game though, but its really difficult early on. For MC use I give it a 4/10. for AI Allies I give it a 2/10. Its just meh. While these are opinions, its really true to how the jobs work. The Princess job deserved to be way higher on your tier list because Its Pros outweighed the cons by a longshot. But please dont take this to heart. I would also love to hear feedback replying to this comment from anyone to read your thoughts. Also if I sounded rude in any way, I deeply apologize ❤️
@reloadtoad Жыл бұрын
It's alright man, I like your thoughts as well, the thing with making a job tier list is that there is no real answer because all of them are pretty much excellent and flawed in their own way. As well as I should have talked more on AI on other jobs rather than the princess.
@Olliemaxx1 Жыл бұрын
@@reloadtoadThank you for feedback!! ^_^ To give you more of an idea of what I believed worked better Ill just give a little tier list here: 14: Pop star 13: Tank 12: Flower 11: Chef 10: Cleric 9: Thief 8: Princess 7: Imp 6: Scientist 5: Mage 4: Warrior 3: Cat 2: Vampire 1: Elf Its pretty similar to your tierlist except for basically what I said would change in my comment. What do you think about this tier list? ^^
@charliebarr65915 ай бұрын
My team is a mage(me) scientist a cat and a cleric for replace ment usually imp cause of relationships my mage is fully powered up with everything and same with everyone else. Ik this is random but all of my miis are friends but yeah oh and relatoonships are very high likecat max with one my horse lunar is at highest with the mage because horseplay
@nucleargaming7764 Жыл бұрын
Bro I absolutely love miitopia! Underrated game. You make really good videos! Also first
@SaltMusic0911 ай бұрын
I gave myself, a flower, insane magic food bonus. It deals quite a lot of damage with that!
@StickRyan Жыл бұрын
In France Jobs in miitopia are called classes so..
@Blackfedoraowner Жыл бұрын
Here is my probably VERY controversial list. 14. Tank Yeah I can’t stand this one. The MP and speed are huge issues (mainly the MP though). The damage and defense is good, but man the AI I can’t stand. Always uses human cannonball and wild shot, but I hardly see it use things like Laser and Hot Shot. 13. Princess This one is fine I guess. It has some neat moves but so do most of the jobs in the game. Maybe there is a nice setup, but man I really can’t find a way to find this jobs full potential. 12. Flower I will admit, I loved this job on my first play through, but I gotta except the fact that it isn’t the best when I could use other jobs like cleric. This one is pretty fun though. 11. Scientist Another job I couldn’t really get attached to. It seems this is mainly a support job…but it has a lot of auto moves and a lack of MP which is probably an even worse issue than with the Tank. Although it has some pretty cool moves. 10. Thief I wish big booby trap could withstand multiple attacks 😞. Anyways, I gotta say this AI is either one of the best or worst in my battles. I don’t know why which is a big reason for it being #10 on my list. I do love it though and use it in a lot of my runs. 9. Chef Flambé is underrated, but it isn’t anything special. Anyways I actually like the balance between attack and healing moves. Monster Dinner (for me anyways) seems to hit often and it is the only way I defeat those Iron Generals at level 30-35 with a standard set of jobs. 8. Vampire TOO. MANY. AOE. ATTACKS. This is an infuriating job because you get nearly no useful moves for like 10 levels after the first AOE you get. They don’t even give a DOT or anything they just are all the same. Although I gotta admit it’s revival moves are very helpful. 7. Warrior Very helpful job for all stages of the game. Has great offensive and defensive moves early on. Gets several powerful moves in the middle, and strong moves and a revival move in the late game. Just a great all around job. 6. Imp Why is this job so high up my list? Well I love setting up insane attacks with this thing. Using sweet whispers and then butt jabbing a hyper warrior or cat is just amazing. You can also heal and gain MP a good amount without needing help from the AI, but these moves are really amplified with the AI. Also one of the more unique jobs in general. If you couldn’t tell this is my favorite job. 5. Pop Star Really solid job. This thing can make the TANK work of all things. Honestly isn’t a bad combo, but then you remember you could use this with warrior and cat and the enemies are in big trouble. Even Chef is helped somewhat because of the pop star’s ability to break up quarrels. Although the AI is worst the worst in the game, this thing is great with so many different jobs it is crazy. 4. Cleric Yeah this is the best healer in the game. Not to mention it has probably the best AI in game as well. I always use this job. No denying it’s overwhelming support and insanely powerful instakill. 3. Mage Very standard job, but it is really strong. It is like the warrior where it gets a lot of great moves in all stages of the game, but it is a balance of better and worse. A very notable thing is that they have no support except “sleep tight” which I didn’t even use until I decided I wanted to see it in action. Honestly the only down side of Mage. Everything else is really good. 2. Cat Similar to Mage, but has more attack and a few supporting moves to boot. You guys also watched the video right? The cat did like 8k damage TOO THE FINAL BOSS. 1. Elf Do I need to explain myself?
@nitrondersaftige380711 ай бұрын
I think the problem with these Tierlists are the fluctuating performances between player and AI controlled. Cause no way AI controlled Pop Star is anywhere near 5, probably even bottom tier
@a.rustici19726 ай бұрын
Was that rhyme with elf and myself intentional I think it’s a dope rhyme!
@Blackfedoraowner6 ай бұрын
@@a.rustici1972 Thanks for making me come back to this comment and making me cringe at all the depressing errors I made because the comment was made late at night. I guess this one is too (it is past midnight for me) but for the rhyme: it was very intentional for sure
@NightmareEuphoriaАй бұрын
I played this when I was younger my characters was always either a princess or mage or cat or popstar bc they were my fav when I was little haha I mean I think I used others but those were the main ones
@JackCat1016 ай бұрын
Play whatever you want
@MatTheInsomniac4 ай бұрын
You should probably use the mic you used after theif, it sounds better tbh
@evanex39725 ай бұрын
Funfact, the flower suck so much, it has more attack then magic.
@michaelkowal32304 ай бұрын
If you don't want your miis to get mad at each other, don't pick tank since the first two skills, wild shot and human cannonball both cause miis to get mad at the tank
@TheDexplorer201119 күн бұрын
Here is something during the post game in the part where you get the dragon I had a cleric which was a toad from super Mario. In that the last two levels I encountered two dragons that the cleric killed in one shot
@hedgehogpower1946 ай бұрын
Ok to be fair What the chef exactly gonna do to revive someone? It's a chef using normal ass food it's not the flower or pop star that literally use magic
@landongreen75106 ай бұрын
I 100% agree with the cat's ranking. When sharpen claws combos into hores whispering, as we see here, 8:53 THe damgae bonus is applied to EVERY SWIPE! They're gonna have to but the Boss Snurp back toghether... IN HELL!
@landongreen75106 ай бұрын
EDIT/HOT TIP: Combo sharpen claws into frenzy sprinkles for a powerful attack that doesnt use much MP!
@Zeddxxxxx6 ай бұрын
Mage in top 3 opinion valid
@C0NArtist2 ай бұрын
I swear the AI Clerics sometimes know when using Righteous Anger will kill, because I've seen the "Begone!" text show up followed by the enemy ceasing to exist wayyy more frequently than what seems like a simple 50/50.
gonna be editing this as i go on so let's start with a quote: "I know what most of us are probably thinking. The worst here is probably one of these three." (showing image of the rotf jobs) and PRINCESS is the worst?? tank has infinite ways to cause quarrels and flower's healing is unreliable if you have it as the ai. why is PRINCESS the worst?????? "Its moveset is pretty lackluster" no it fucking isn't. if you want a shitty moveset, look at mage, thief, chef, cat, scientist, flower and vammpire. ALL of them have worse looking movesets than princess "The AI is especially inconsistent (for Princess)." and yet it does exactly what it needs to, probably being one of the best ais in the game? "... As well as making your Miis angry for more damage." i don't think anyone in the history of miitopia actually likes this move...... until 1 month ago. "Thief is good at *not* dying." yes.... to an extent. if that bitch gets hit with a physical attack, it isn't dying and already has an insanely large number of ways to avoid getting hit by said physical attack in the first place. have fun getting hit by a magic attack! cleric as number 8 makes NO sense. that bitch should be at 1. "The Scientist is one of the most fun jobs to use and 100% one of the more versatile options out there." it's JUST mage 2 "Scorching Breath and Bat Tornado do *huge* amounts of damage." scorching breath doesn't utilize vampire's busted magic stat... all this aside, it's actually nice to see miitopia content in 2023
@reloadtoad Жыл бұрын
you're looking a little too much into it man chill, but I get where you're coming from
@DoneThatSeenThat Жыл бұрын
looking way too much into it not to say anything but thief + cool personality + warning (on any team member) basically gives thief 3 different ways to avoid attacks, and when its an AOE attack that it cant dodge it usually bounces back anyway.
@DannielisVeryBored Жыл бұрын
Princess and Cleric being shafted here I 100% agree with, although to me Cleric would place at #3 and Princess at #2, both being the best in their specific job category: cleric for healers and princess for support. Scientist being Mage 2 I agree with as well, although I personally prefer mage over scientist, and vampire I can't comment on since I don't really use it.
@DoneThatSeenThat Жыл бұрын
@@DannielisVeryBored I prefer popstar over princess, but princess is decent at certain things.
@The76532 Жыл бұрын
how is cat, scientist, vampire and mage have worse movesets than princess, princess is literally "ohooho royal wave" while vampire literally has the power to be immortal, cat can do the highest damage in the game and mage can get great supporting moves + AOE + barrier. scientist is mage but a little worse, yes but its more unique than just blatently reusing other moves (im talking to you princess). cleric barley gets any good moves (instakill doesn't count because its not consistant) i do agree with princess being higher than tank and flower but no higher than 12th. there is no room for a princess on an optimal team because the best team would be elf, mage, cleric and vampire.
@MANN.8003 ай бұрын
The best job is the vampire because yiu can revive randomly and you have life leach so vampire is over powered and also the health is good later on for getting the elf job if you want it
@Random-prince-mush-lover7 ай бұрын
I like the sunflower role, and it was in my final team for getting the elven role but I get your reasoning, but it’s like both a miniature chef and cleric.
@charliebarr65915 ай бұрын
Same mine consisted of a popstar flower and cleric when I was aage
@theantigovernmentchad4 ай бұрын
I literally clicked on the thumbnail cuz the thumbnail had a picture of Gordon Ramsay as the chef
@dumbsmp16 күн бұрын
4:29 the mic sounds better than before
@pikachoo10556 ай бұрын
Starting out my miitopia game, my starter team consisted of Chef (me), Warrior, Mage, and Popstar, and I ended up rolling with it up until the lategame, and I was doing pretty good. I even managed to take on the Tower of Dread. (Mind you this was on the 3DS release)
@charliebarr65915 ай бұрын
Rlly?:) Mine started with me as a popstar,then mage ,theif and lastly a cleric but ended up going with changing my job to mage and the rest to scientist (the old mage) a cat and another person as a cleric, I haven't finished the game yet but I hope it works out
@PetV160311 ай бұрын
8:52 that's why i use the cat. I dream of doing that
@MyScorpion4224 күн бұрын
They're called jobs because that's what they've been called since the 80's I think
@MaxNCheese-cj9rt3 ай бұрын
I like flower because of hurricane. Powerful boss? HURRICANE. Grinding XP for other miis? HURRICANE. A bunch of enemies? HURRICANE.
@Koryo1724 ай бұрын
Sharpen claws can be combined with hyper sprinkles for a almost guaranteed one shot against not bosses mobs
@antoineschemel85642 ай бұрын
and an absolute high amount of damage on boss
@JPAJOKERSPLUSHADVENTURES4 ай бұрын
The Princess clutched most of my battles
@A-boy776 ай бұрын
If ur are using the scietist as ur main character it will make ur defense and mp better so if u use it as ur main I would rank it below elf
@charliebarr65915 ай бұрын
Thx for the tip:)
@TheRealBlazingDiamond6 ай бұрын
What I never understood about the healing items is that... well, you can literally just put the teammate in the safe spot on their turn for free, then take them out immediately. There's no downside. Maybe if you could use an item without using up your turn, they'd be valuable
@AwesomeMooseSmile6 ай бұрын
I think the thief should be at the bottom. Sure the thief is fast and has tons of defense, and sure some of the utility is fine (but nowhere near as good as any other support geared job), but it is not worth the absolutely pitiful damage output. The thief is up there with the cleric and the pop star as one of the weakest, but those actually have incredible utility, unlike the thief, and moves like phantom strike do hit a lot of times, but the damage output is SO low that whirlwind blade is unironically stronger. Rock rain is a little better and does hit more, but the MP you have to spend is on parr with some of scientist and mages powerful attacks, and it's nowhere near as good as any of those. At least the flower does have a use, and at least the princess has some pretty decent stats and can help your team out in a lot more useful ways, the thief has always been the most useless team member whenever I play the game. In my most recent playthrough, I had a sceptile who originally was a thief because I didn't have access to the flower job yet, and after I got access to both it and him again, he went from being basically useless to an actually decent member when he switched from the thief to the flower. Hell, my first ever main was a thief, and while it did fine, as soon as I switched to literally any other job, the end game went from nearly impossible to done in one try. I do agree with the top 4, and I think it's a really interesting way they balanced out the top 3 classes, because you don't get the elf and the vampire until you beat the game, or unless you get very lucky in the vampire's case, but as for the mage, it's one of your earliest jobs, but up until you get to the Dark Lord, it's basically useless since they can't take any hits and all of the basic attacks are INCREDIBLY weak. It's not until it gets the mega moves where it finally starts being useful, and then it spirals out of control in power.
@joshuajarret69074 ай бұрын
Here’s my ranking 14. Flower 13. Pop Star 12. Chef 11. Thief 10. Cat 9. Scientist 8. Warrior 7. Imp 6. Elf 5. Tank 4. Cleric 3. Princess 2. Mage 1. Vampire
@LiterallyGelatin8 ай бұрын
I remember I accidentally chose flower for my main but it actually turned out to be so good for healing!
@PinkEliteYT8 ай бұрын
Tank is fun asf
@Spamton.No.1RatedSalesman19977 ай бұрын
Yes but seeing friends get sad :(((
@randomness.stupidness4 ай бұрын
popstar is straight up broken imo since popstar is already a good support job, but stack atk on it and suddenly you have an aoe dps💀🙏
@Floki_lucifer3 ай бұрын
"The princess is the worst, its moves are lackluster" My princess ally who deals over 400 damage every time she uses double Royal wave: 🙃
@prodoofus3275 ай бұрын
6:12 this was funny lol
@prodoofus3275 ай бұрын
If they made a mod to make it say this whenever they use this move I'm so using it 💀
@marcosanaryan57593 ай бұрын
I think we need justice for scientists
@Mudkip_lieker136 ай бұрын
I named my main character Stan because that’s the name I use in games since it’s a shorter version of my name and I was crushed to see the other Stan be the villain :(
@charliebarr65915 ай бұрын
😢it's so sad though
@Sonic448856 ай бұрын
Personally i really like warrior mainly because i like swords, but my usual class picks for myself are warrior, scientist, and tank
@bungusbajablast287713 күн бұрын
i run mage, chef, scientist, warrior probably not as good as the traditional cat + cleric setup but chef and warrior are bulkier (i run scientist over elf because i don't want to grind elf levels on my main mii and i think CPU scientist is a smidge better than CPU elf)
@Cam-jam Жыл бұрын
I really think every healing job is just a worse version of the cleric
@DannielisVeryBored Жыл бұрын
basically yeah
@Incinerated-rogue76 ай бұрын
Not really there are for different things
@indo7635 Жыл бұрын
8:52 Bro where did you get that gameplay from?
@reloadtoad Жыл бұрын
WOAH what the hell I didnt even notice that.. shit.
@indo7635 Жыл бұрын
@@reloadtoad To be fair, it was on the screen for less than a second
@DoneThatSeenThat Жыл бұрын
the game sharks gave it to him
@BJGvideos6 ай бұрын
What am I looking at?
@pemanilnoob6 ай бұрын
7:03 as someone who mains the scientist, MP has never been a problem to me, whenever it gets low I just use sprinkles, and I’ve never been in the situation where I need more and don’t have any more And I’ve never had any problems with dying as it either
@reloadtoad6 ай бұрын
stat boosts from grub prevent both, and i dont like to use sprinkles
@nathanromine35786 ай бұрын
But what do you think combination of jobs work well for a team?
@Sadshorts00714 күн бұрын
Imp, cat, cleric, and anything else as last member try it.
@DuckieAM_viewing_chanel Жыл бұрын
8:49 not gonna lie it is actully pretty god
@anonymousmonkey949111 ай бұрын
this must be the first time I don't see the tank at the bottom of a class tier list.
@Askinnyperson_xd5 ай бұрын
warrior is kinda op with hyper sprikiles and witout hyper also op you just need level 6 realsion ship everyone there bam big damage
@DreamingNightmares4 ай бұрын
It's annoying being one of the people who brought the game back when it was new on the 3ds only for it to have that big update in later releases. Why can't I have the horse or the advanced mii creation makeup stuff? I've seen the crazy things people have made with that makeup feature and I'm jealous I can't make or download any of those miis... It isn't worth buying the game when I already have it but it kinda feels like the OG players all got scammed :')
@tds20665 ай бұрын
Elf is definitely one of the best
@iimuffinsaur5 ай бұрын
I think its probably called Jobs because a lot of RPGs call it Jobs instead of Classes.
@gamerhoustonthegamer59426 ай бұрын
Tank. All I have to say is, if you go for a no food run, then tank is the only Clas- er I mean Job, that can’t use their new skills when they unlock them… due to… a lack of max MP. A speed of 0 that never grows when you level up, it makes it even worse. Also, with some meh magic, and the fact magic attacks are common in the late game, it makes it all the worse. But hey, this is based on your opinions.