I replaced ALL POWER Cables With THESE - Here's What Happened!

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The Audio Stuff

The Audio Stuff

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@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 3 ай бұрын
I hope you all are enjoying the time, money, and effort I put into this video, as much as you enjoy your audio system. I hope all of you can achieve the highest level of audio satisfaction and be as happy with it as possible. Feel free to leave a like, subscribe to my channel, comment your thoughts, and share this video with your audiophile friends.
@sabhajananaik8583
@sabhajananaik8583 26 күн бұрын
The fact that you found improvements in background noise with upgraded cables has convinced me to try it myself.
@Nxt_tufan_ff-z5i
@Nxt_tufan_ff-z5i 7 күн бұрын
This kind of content is exactly what I need to take my setup to the next level.
@ANKITGAMINGYT-pb8gg
@ANKITGAMINGYT-pb8gg 26 күн бұрын
Your insights on timbre added a new perspective for me. It's fascinating how much sound relies on these details!
@N2F400
@N2F400 7 күн бұрын
I can't believe the improvement you noticed, gives me hope for upgrading my own system.
@amankabeer8119
@amankabeer8119 26 күн бұрын
I’ve always been skeptical about audio cables but your results are really making me rethink that.
@damonsbest
@damonsbest 4 ай бұрын
I’ll never understand why soo many people with strong unwavering beliefs against this topic feel the need to watch these videos. Boredom ? Reach their anger hours for the day ? Cables make a sonic difference IMO, and that’s ok. Whether one believes it or not :) There’s now been multiple people that have created real measurable differences between cables. Thanks for making the video ✌️
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
I believe that I do understand why that is. People are just interested in other perspectives on certain things, that's why they watch videos they don't agree with.
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh Ай бұрын
That's the thing right there. _People_ have _created_ real differences (in their head). Also there are measurable differences. Most of them are inaudible unless you have sensitive equipment. Sensitive in that it reacts to parameter variance, i.e. less stable Noise can be present in low level signals from surrounding equipment. I feel a lot of audiophile cables don't include shielding for that though
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff Ай бұрын
@@RennieAsh These cables in the video are indeed shielded.
@wahid-lg1kk
@wahid-lg1kk 21 күн бұрын
It's about outrage time..even if there is a tiny difference, the plug comes from the wall, you have normal wires delivering power. Difference canceled.
@SabirAliSk-i3c
@SabirAliSk-i3c 7 күн бұрын
Your A/B testing was well done; it helped me hear the differences in a way I could relate to.
@SakrunBibi
@SakrunBibi 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for the thorough review! Your passion for audio gear really shines through-great content!
@tajuali409
@tajuali409 26 күн бұрын
You mentioned a surprise upgrade-now I'm hooked! Can't wait to find out what it was!
@RajaGajalwad
@RajaGajalwad 7 күн бұрын
I was skeptical about changing power cables, but your results make me want to experiment with my own gear.
@Gamerguy91
@Gamerguy91 26 күн бұрын
The USB cable discussion was illuminating. I didn’t realize it could alter the soundstage so much.
@D1N02
@D1N02 4 ай бұрын
I tried it and it works. It lowers the noise floor. I think more due to the shielding of the cable than the OFC (I have no way to test that anyway).
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 4 ай бұрын
Well, THAT is an actual possible advantage. If you've got some proper good grounding on your home electrics, a good shielding on all cables can do something. Then again, thick shielded wire is like what, 2 dollars a meter or so, 5 max? EDIT: also, routing cables differently likely does the same, avoiding any analog signal cables passing over the power cords could solve it, that is, if they aren't already shielded to begin with, as they should.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@SAMARTh700js
@SAMARTh700js 26 күн бұрын
Great job explaining the impact of good shielding! I learned so much from this video.
@o0Donuts0o
@o0Donuts0o 4 ай бұрын
This video is a great essay on the old adage “A fool and his money are soon parted”.
@AdityaKumarb3
@AdityaKumarb3 7 күн бұрын
It's wild to see how power supply can impact sound; I never really considered it until now.
@Jenniebaby-t9c
@Jenniebaby-t9c 26 күн бұрын
Those Monosaudio cables look so robust. I can only imagine how they hold up under heavy use!
@robertandrews2019
@robertandrews2019 4 ай бұрын
I learned a long time ago to stop chasing perfect sound with nonsense like super-expensive cables and just enjoy the music. Life's too short.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Everyone has their own perspective on audio. If you're satisfied with your system, more power to you! ;)
@emilspec1227
@emilspec1227 4 ай бұрын
"I spent a lot of money and now I must justify it all by making myself think that I achieved significant improvement" or cognitive bias as most of us know it.
@Coneman3
@Coneman3 4 ай бұрын
What about negation bias?
@052RC
@052RC 2 ай бұрын
Why would you think that? Nothing can be further from the truth. Before I continue, for full disclosure, I have to tell you that I have a masters degree in psychology. In the past, if I didn't mention this up front, people would get extremely upset with me. I don't know why, because the information is still the same, but now you know. When dealing with personal biases, it seems like a simple thing to measure and test. Its not. In order for a test like this to be accurate, you have to know what someone's biases are. Just the act of finding out what someone's bias are will almost certainly throw the test. To prove differences in cables, there are much better ways to test. The 2 I use are null testing and blind testing. However, with blind testing, you have to know what you're doing. The average person typically thinks double blind testing is the way to go. I understand why they would think that, but its not. You can't control all the variables you need to using a double blind test, so your results won't yield scientific results. If this is something you want to look into, I would recommend null testing. Its easier, and if done correctly, the results have to be accurate.
@Coneman3
@Coneman3 2 ай бұрын
@@052RC how can a null test be the same as a full system playing (it can’t). Also, a biased person can still be correct about what they are assessing. To assume bias = ‘always error’ is not logical. Negation bias is bias towards disproving something.
@Coneman3
@Coneman3 2 ай бұрын
@@052RC do you think a better digital cable can positively affect the sound in a system? Shortcut - you probably don’t. Truth - you are completely wrong if you believe that 😂
@chandushingava5519
@chandushingava5519 26 күн бұрын
Definitely going to try those digital cables! If they help with soundstage depth, I’m all in.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 26 күн бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 4 ай бұрын
I suppose the ambient noise harmonics are adjusted by how far you push the plug in? Most of the demo had the plug barely engaged.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Haha not really. In the video I did that on purpose, as I had to take a lot of shots, it was easier not to push it all the way in, so I can easily unplug it and plug it back into a different device.
@AmazonasBiotop
@AmazonasBiotop 3 ай бұрын
For the thumbnail. 2 wire power cable vs 3 wire powercable. Of course the 3 wire one can be life changing! 😂
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 3 ай бұрын
It indeed is! Haha
@magharsingh4176
@magharsingh4176 7 күн бұрын
I’m curious if you think high-end power cables are worth the investment compared to budget options.
@artistsnitishking3338
@artistsnitishking3338 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting in the time!
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
No worries!
@dheerajkashyap5813
@dheerajkashyap5813 26 күн бұрын
I’m curious, how do these compare to some of the top-tier brands in the market?
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 4 ай бұрын
Power cords definitely make a difference. Without them you have zero dynamic range. ;-D All joking aside, this myth needs to be put to bed. High end power cords don't make a difference with competently designed and build audio gear.
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street Ай бұрын
@@scottwheeler2679 that would have to be some $50,000 + audio gear though
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 Ай бұрын
@@Pete.across.the.street Nope. Competence isn't a function of retail price
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street Ай бұрын
@@scottwheeler2679 price true, but there is a TON of incompetent designs then by your definition. Or you parroting ASR's definition
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 Ай бұрын
@@Pete.across.the.street I'm going by the actual definition.
@joelcarson4602
@joelcarson4602 4 ай бұрын
Just here for the audiophool hilarity.
@DeepikaDeepa-jt1js
@DeepikaDeepa-jt1js 4 ай бұрын
Nice review, thanks
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@carlitosgomez71
@carlitosgomez71 14 күн бұрын
Power cables are probably the least effective upgrade path, most people wont notice any difference, most power cables are built to a iso Eu standard that should be suitable for given device, the only benefit i see is to get a power cable with good shielding and strong connector's that might help in some situations depending on some equipment. In fact some of these hifi cables haven't even been accredited and could theoretically be dangerous and cause a fire, just make sure they have the right pass marks, standards otherwise you dont want your house to catch fire. I think a better investment would be better interconnects or speaker cable but even that can be a hotley contested subject. Power conditioners or regenerators maybe the better options especially if your power supply is not stable or clean
@elborgund
@elborgund 4 ай бұрын
I did a scientific test about this many years ago. Using speaker chamber test with microphones. The response curve and sinus waves are exactly the same. We need to know that the miles and miles of power cables going into our house is not this level of quality, therefore a 3 foot cable of the best quality doesn't do anything. This is in my humble opinion a placebo effect. It's the quality of the amplifier and the signal source itself that impacts the sound. Not the power cables between the amplifier and the wall. If it's connected to a capacitor bank it might have a bit more omph due to power reserves when it needs to hit that hard base with high volume. But that's it. Because a good amplifier should have a big enough capacitor bank built in.
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street 4 ай бұрын
Why would it change the frequency response? Your tests are flawed. The miles of cable before the house argument is flawed for sure.
@elborgund
@elborgund 4 ай бұрын
@@Pete.across.the.street the frequency's are the sound you hear. If this cable can't clear it up or change it. The sound will be the same.
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street 4 ай бұрын
@@elborgundfrequency is only part of what you hear. You are measuring the wrong things. If you only listened to test tones that test might be somewhat valid for measuring differences in cables, but not for music.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
It's important to note that the last couple of feet is in my case clean power going from a power filter to its final destination
@052RC
@052RC 2 ай бұрын
I'm going to tell you something and I'm not trying to insult you. Its just a fact. What you did is commonly referred to as junk science. I'm not saying it was intentional, but if you want to claim scientific results, you have to adhere to the scientific method, and there are no exceptions. What were you testing for, and why? The first step in the scientific method is to have some type of observation that can't be explained with our current understanding of how things work. If you don't have a clear observation of an event that can't be explained, you don't have a test. Its just that simple. And if you do have a observation, it needs to be replicated as part of the test. If you want to see a perfect example of junk science, look no further than the audio science review channel here on youtube. The guy is a fraud. He's building his youtube channel by telling people what they want to hear. I would refer you to the posts I've made on his channel because I completely prove he's doing junk science using his own videos as evidence. However, that's not possible because he removes my posts the second he see them. But the point is, science is something very specific. You can't just ignore the evidence and take it upon yourself to prove, or disprove an event that you took no part in. Well, you can, but you just can't call it science. Just to be clear, I'm not saying what you did was wrong. You can do anything you want. If your testing gave results that you were able to use to your advantage, that's fine. You just can't call it science. That's all I'm trying to say.
@BRBodin
@BRBodin 4 ай бұрын
Digital signals are either 1 or 0. I would agreed that "expensive quality built" cables gives a better result on analog signals. If digital cables affects the sound quality, it must be due a DAC that messes up?? Maybe a quality off-grid shielded system could improve sound quality better than justr buy expensive power cables?? As the grid is full of "noise"
@Awaken2067833758
@Awaken2067833758 4 ай бұрын
EMI filters are cheap and get rid of all that noise, no need for expensive cables. Switching power supplies isolate all that noise in the ac to dc part, so EMI filters only work in linear power supplies. And you are right, there are only two types of digital cables, the ones that work and the ones that don't
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street 4 ай бұрын
Not only 1 and 0. Closer to only 1 and 0 if galvanicly isolated though.
@damonsbest
@damonsbest 4 ай бұрын
Your forgetting how each digital input has been implemented inside a component. Whether it’s galvanically isolated etc. The digital input itself could impact the sound before considering what a cable may or may not do.
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street 4 ай бұрын
@@damonsbest thanks for the reminder. I'll write that down
@052RC
@052RC 2 ай бұрын
You're missing one thing. You can't send 1's and 0's through a piece of copper wire. Digital cables are really analog. In order to send a digital signal through the cable, its converted to an analog representation of the digital signal. And because the digital signal is now analog, it can be effected by anything that would normally effect any analog signal.
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 4 ай бұрын
Electricity is noisy, and it does not matter where you live. The best thing anyone can do for overall sound quality is to run a direct circuit, or line, from the main panel to the audio gear. A direct line, or "Home Run" from the panel to the gear, eliminates any possibility of those other outlets and switches adding excess noise to the circuit. Most folks do not know that electricity actually vibrates. It vibrates enough that it will loosen electrical connections over time. If you use the inexpensive "stab" outlets (USA), the vibrations of the electricity will actually break the copper wire. Everyone laughs about this stuff, but the truth says different. Will a power cord make a difference? It just may, depending upon the circuit and what is going on outside of the house at the transformer. Ham Radio guys know this stuff, and it is no different with our AV gear.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Running a direct line is indeed a great thing to do, and it should be done whenever possible. Using high-quality power filters can also do wonders ;)
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 4 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioStuff The same holds true for the network/ethernet, I use an LHY SW8 filtering switch and the Netgear GS108eV3 switch. The Netgear switch is just as good as the much more expensive LHY switch. The Netgear unit runs around $50 US on Amazon, it runs on 12v, I do use an LHY linear power supply on it too. The real tell was with video streaming, the PQ on my Sony Bravia went up a few notches. I had one guest ask me when I bought a new TV. If you stream, it is worth picking up one of these Netgear switches, If it does not work to your liking, send it back. I have never had anyone I recommended this switch to send it back. ;-)
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh Ай бұрын
I prefer having cables that I could hide or are flexible; just a few of those chunky cables and now you have to have space for the equivalent of another piece of gear lol
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff Ай бұрын
I like the look of cables, but not when they tangle up - that's just ugly.
@marcinsobczak2485
@marcinsobczak2485 4 ай бұрын
aaah the famous audio voodoo irl
@paulsimon1272
@paulsimon1272 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand what the connection is between the "quality" of the power cable and the performance of the audio system. I strongly believe that the difference is made by the filtering part, the quality of the mains transformer, the quality of the parts, a good shielding of the preamplifier and a correctly sized final stage with sorted components. I knew a passionate audio amplifier engineer who managed, with long-tested components, to build a transistor amplifier in the final stage that sounded better than a tube amplifier. Otherwise... just a waste of time.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Once you filter the power, you have to transport it to the device in a way, that remains pure and high quality - that's what that all seems to be about.
@AudriusN
@AudriusN 3 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioStuff Power supply does the filtering. Just study some electrotechnics books first FFS.
@MAFIA_GAMER-gd2zk
@MAFIA_GAMER-gd2zk 4 ай бұрын
I do not get why people are saying it's fake. On my system, power cables make a very big difference, and placebo is not an answer to everything.
@o0Donuts0o
@o0Donuts0o 4 ай бұрын
Your placebo meds have kicked in.
@Coneman3
@Coneman3 4 ай бұрын
The deniers are guilty of negation bias.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Usually the more resolving your system is, the bigger the difference.
@paulb4661
@paulb4661 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheAudioStuffThe funniest bit is that you are "hearing" the improvement in reproduction of recordings made with miles of ordinary cabling and mixed by sound engineers, who would die of laughter hearing that nonsense.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 2 ай бұрын
@@paulb4661 it’s like saying that hi-fi speakers don’t make a difference, because the songs are mixed on much lower quality studio monitors - nonsense.
@ROYALCRICKET143
@ROYALCRICKET143 4 ай бұрын
Wonder if they’ll work with powered tower speakers ?
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
As long as the plug style is the same (it likely is), then it will work.
@niteshpaswanyt1226
@niteshpaswanyt1226 4 ай бұрын
If 14 guage is sufficient, 16 gauge may compromise the amp and 10 gauge might be unnecessary.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
It's not always just about the thickness. Shielding, connectors and materials matter as well.
@RuiChambel
@RuiChambel 4 ай бұрын
I can confirm the extra bass on a decent amplifier. I only replaced the supplied power cable because it was a bit flimsy and wouldn't attach properly. I got a cable from a different manufacturer (I won't say the name, but starts with PS and ends with wave 😁). I wasn't expecting sound changes but, out of the blue, I was earing stronger bass. I haven't changed other equipment or speaker placement, so I assume it was due to a better power cord
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Bass is possibly the place where the most improvements can be heard, mostly due to things such as contact and cable resistance, which tends not to be great on stock cords.
@dingskydongsky
@dingskydongsky 4 ай бұрын
Power cables make a difference, but I don't think you have a preamp 😊
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
They indeed do! For the purpose of a video, out of curiosity, I borrowed my friend's PS Audio preamp. Currently, I'm running my system without one, you're right ;)
@YTjuanchicod
@YTjuanchicod 3 ай бұрын
Wich he1000 have you there?
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 3 ай бұрын
Hmm? I don't have any HE1000 right now, but I probably will very soon.
@pk57462
@pk57462 4 ай бұрын
i have a Nad 3020i with single no ground power cable , it it better to change it , or leave it alone as it is ?
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
I’d go for this one
@052RC
@052RC 2 ай бұрын
Neither. Contact The Cable Company. They're the largest audio cable retailer in the world. The reason they're the biggest is that they keep demo units of everything they sell. So, for example, if you are interested in a new power cord, call them and they'll come up with 4 or 5 different options for you. You then get a box full of cables to try in your system without committing to a purchase. If you think one of the cables makes a difference worth paying for, buy it. If not, you don't have to buy anything. Power cords are weird. The results you get them are not consistent. You may hear no difference at all, but even if you do hear a change, its not always for the better. If you can't try them first, I say don't buy anything unless you're OK with taking a chance.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 2 ай бұрын
@@052RC It's also a great option, didn't know they did that! That's fantastic for in-home trial.
@mihaischitcu1917
@mihaischitcu1917 4 ай бұрын
If power and USB cables brought improvement to your equipment then you need better equipment.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
The thing is - the more resolving/better your equipment is, the bigger difference such tiny things make.
@Mikexception
@Mikexception 4 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioStuff Anyway bass is not supposed to be always perceived as tight - it suppose to have no permanent character and present readible for listener full melody line withot overlaying rest sounds and instruments. At least up to my taste.
@guystewart9554
@guystewart9554 4 ай бұрын
They make no difference that is detectable by measuring equipment or the human ear, but if you imagine it is better they spend away. you are not hurting anyone and enjoying your hobby.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
The differences in cable's resistance, capacitance, inductance, material purity, geometry are of course measurable, why would you say otherwise?
@TecraTube
@TecraTube 4 ай бұрын
no mention on price? I'd imagine each one of those is $100 USD also is that rose nail polish
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
My bad, the prices are around $180 for 1.8m of the version I showcased in the video. Those aren't my hands, I used a woman's help in recording haha
@TecraTube
@TecraTube 4 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioStuff good to know. I was going to unsubscribe if they were your hands
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Haha, I'm not into such stuff. However, I often use somebody's help in recording, so I can take better footage for my viewers to watch ;)
@ShivranjanKumar-mb1hw
@ShivranjanKumar-mb1hw 4 ай бұрын
Power cable need to meet the amperage peak power requirements, or a little above to be on the safe side. No more.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
That's one thing, shielding and materials are something else, that also matters greatly.
@fredoswego
@fredoswego 4 ай бұрын
Electricity is sent to your home over miles of the cheapest copper wire/cables that would do the job and then distributed through your house by the cheapest wire that met building code, but somehow that 4 feet between the outlet and your equipment can magically enhanced electricity via a $2 grand power cord.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
That last 4 feet is clean power going from a power filter to its final destination.
@JatinTongree.
@JatinTongree. 4 ай бұрын
I love my Supanova cables that I bought a 2nd one for my 2 amps, and the speaker buzz went away!
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
I've also heard they're great + a company that I like produces them ;)
@jaycoleman8062
@jaycoleman8062 4 ай бұрын
Secret World by Peter Gabriel with Tony Levin on the Chapman Stick will (really) test your bass response...
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
I just gave it a listen, it's really nice. I'll try to use it going forward for testing bass response. Thanks!
@astolatpere11
@astolatpere11 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't cheap out on tires on my supercar, why would I cheap out on cabling on high end audio.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
I liked your analogy a lot haha
@donerskine7935
@donerskine7935 4 ай бұрын
I hope your spark plug leads are screened, and with low-oxygen cable then. It makes the engine sound better.
@052RC
@052RC 2 ай бұрын
@@donerskine7935 Modern cars don't have spark plug wires. At least the vast majority of them. The ignition coils are mounted directly on to of the plugs. That said, the sound of the car wouldn't change even if it did have spark plug wires. I guess if you have a miss due to a bad cable, the sound of the car would change when you fixed it, but that's about it.
@Peter-ii4xq
@Peter-ii4xq 4 ай бұрын
Technical friends say it's impossible.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
My, and others ears say it's possible.
@AudriusN
@AudriusN 4 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioStuff Now say your eyes see better than JWST instruments
@kvernesdotten
@kvernesdotten 4 ай бұрын
This seems like an awful lot of improvements in every single aspect to be coming from power cables alone. There are some tests that show cables can make a difference in certain conditions, but as long as they are thick enough and not the absolute worst quality, tests also show that what actually comes out of the speakers is for all intents and purposes, the same. So, first thought was that this is either placebo or bias, but then you mention that the cables removed static noise when idle for you. That generally means you have an issue somewhere, though if its removed by swapping the cables then it makes me very curious what you were using before. If all your old cables was really bad or insufficient for the workload, then this makes alot of sense to me. I once tried reusing speaker wires from tiny satellite surround speakers on some floor standing 4-way towers, mostly because it was what I had at hand and I was impatient. Obviously, those wires were never designed to carry that load, and when I got around to make some decent cables with the correct gauge, I experienced alot of the same things you talk about here. Cables are, in my humble opinion, one of those things that are either good enough or not. Yes or no. And when they are good enough, I havent found any benefit to upgrading. I am genuinly curious though, Im thinking that there has to be something going on here. Either that your old cables were unsuitable, or you living on top of a radio station or something. I find it a bit hard to believe that all the things you describe here comes from "dirty power" alone though, but if you want to test that you could always pick up a a simple power conditioner for like 50 bucks and swap all your old cables back in. If it still sounds as good with the old cables and a power conditioner, then you might have some weird stuff going on with your mains power, but if it goes back to sounding like before the upgrade, im fairly convinced the issue was your old cables being underspecced for the work you ask them to do.
@kvernesdotten
@kvernesdotten 4 ай бұрын
I double checked, the towers where 3-way, not 4-way. Not that it matters but hey, details!
@bikeman7982
@bikeman7982 4 ай бұрын
A hair dryer is able to pull 1,800 CONTINUOUS WATTS from a 120V outlet using skinny cables. So you are saying these upgraded cables can magically pull more watts?
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh Ай бұрын
That being said, sometimes those cables heat up from the current xd
@damirhlobik6488
@damirhlobik6488 4 ай бұрын
did you change the kilometers of cables from the transformer station to your house?
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
No, only the cable that takes clean power from my power filter and forwards it to my devices.
@ggroch
@ggroch 4 ай бұрын
So, you believe thick shielded power cables used for the last 4 feet to your amp solved all of the noise, interference in the 50 miles of unshielded cables from the power plant? Hearing HUGE differences in power cables and USB cables, when any actual difference is too small to be measured, is 100% due to cognitive bias. Why not do an episode on cognitive bias and why it does not apply to you. That would be very interesting.
@kellygrant4964
@kellygrant4964 4 ай бұрын
Went down the audiophile road for a while. Luckily I didn't continue. At this point it really is more about looks. And if a part makes you feel better than go for it. I always shook my head when I was looking for my front speakers and seeing all these older people (at the time) saying they heard the "big" difference between a 20 and a 200 dollar cable. Yep a 60+ year old ears hearing all these wonderous improvements. Buy this stuff for the right reasons and looks is pretty well the top one. After all you just bought a super expensive tube amp how can you live with yourself using the plain power cable?
@marckant3611
@marckant3611 4 ай бұрын
Please, believing in snake oil is NOT the definition of an Audiophile. An audiophile is someone who loves to actually listen to music. And that does not have anything to do with the price of his/her gear.
@kellygrant4964
@kellygrant4964 4 ай бұрын
@@marckant3611 I love actually sitting back and listening to the beautiful music. The things I have come across in shops sometimes just make me shake my head. Can't remember the name of the anti static "gun". But wanted one (they were popular back in the 80's). So there I was standing in an audiophile shop beside a Oracle Delphi LP player and the salesman actually said that they were to expensive for them to carry... what the heck? I found these removed static the absolute best. My guess is they just either didn't know they were still around or they just didn't get enough markup to carry them. I still am on the lookout for one. My other favorite was what I called the Paradigm push. You would think these things were the be all and end all by the hard sales selling so many places did on them. Really put me off and even to this day (over 20 years latter) I will never ever have one of their products!
@ggroch
@ggroch 4 ай бұрын
@@marckant3611 The dictionary says a Musicophile loves music, and an Audiophile is a person having an ardent interest in stereo or high-fidelity sound equipment. That distinction is important. If you have an ardent love of the gear itself, it is near impossible to compare audio components without cognitive bias. Biases make one particularly vulnerable to snake oil.
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street 4 ай бұрын
@ggroch So you belive a water filter on your sink doesn't clean the water because it has flowed miles through dirty pipes?
@joeldoxtator9804
@joeldoxtator9804 4 ай бұрын
All of the symptoms your are listing can be the effect of electrical noise. However, it is very unlikely that the power cable which came with your electronic device is the source of such noise unless you are using cheapo Chinese garbage. Power filtration takes place at the device level with a power filtration circuit directly off of the powered lines coming into the unit. ANY additional filtering beyond the designed filter will alter the intended sound of a device. I have used power filters before and all they did was destroy the sound of stage of devices. The largest power quality issue is going to be from your breaker box to the outlet you are using. Installing your amplifiers on isolated lines that go directly to your breaker box without breakouts going to different areas will improve thing significantly. Far more than just replacing the power cable from the wall to the device. The issue is cross talk between the devices on the power lines. Since AC is a push pull frequency, the frequencies are affected by other devices on the same line. This is what the built in power filter is for, but it can only do so much. Complete isolation of circuits is the only real solution.
@Artemis_Prix
@Artemis_Prix 4 ай бұрын
Interestingly, I had converted a 10 gauge extension cord by removing the standard plugs and replaced them with precisely the same Monosaudio plugs you used in your video complete with the rhodium coating. Unfortunately, the sound was worse than the stock connectors, surprisingly (less dynamics, not as revealing, etc.). I viewed this as the ultimate experiment at least in terms of evaluating the effects of the higher quality plugs since I had used the same cable. I plan to replace this converted cable to a proper HiFi power cable soon, and will not be using it in my system. Of course, I can't comment on how what I did would compare to the your use case...combination of the higher quality copper, shielding, in addition to the higher quality plugs. But, based upon your review and my experience, I would surmise most if not all of the improvement you observed was coming from the cable and shielding, and not the plugs themselves. BTW, I have a very revealing system so your experience may be different than mine (BHK 250 amp, tricked out Freya+ pre, Heresy IV speakers, REL S 510 sub, etc.). Hope this was helpful.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
That's interesting! Did you terminate the cable yourself, or did you buy it pre-made? A secure connection between the wires and the connector is crucial for maintaining good sound quality. Loose connections can increase resistance, which can negatively affect the dynamics of your audio. If you made the cable yourself, double-check your soldering or crimping job. If it's pre-made, you might want to inspect the connector for any signs of damage.
@Artemis_Prix
@Artemis_Prix 4 ай бұрын
@TheAudioStuff I did assemble myself. I'm an engineer and so I made the best of what was available. With that said, the terminal connections within the plug housings (e.g., where the wires seat), are incredibly low quality by modern standards - both in the way in which the wires are secured as well as with the metal they had used. I'm confident the lower audio quality I heard was because of that. Either way, it was a worthwhile experiment from the standpoint of teaching me the importance of the wire and shielding used (a combinationof your results and my results from other upgrades), and the secondary importance of the quality of the plug terminals (the Monosaudio plugs were indeed worse, but not as big of a difference as one would expect when changing an entire cable). Of course, I will never purchase from Monosaudio again, but it was an important lesson.
@dadandkids5028
@dadandkids5028 3 ай бұрын
What about the power points, the wire in the walls, the wiring in the fuse box, the fuses, and the wiring to the street? That has a much greater effect than the 1.5m cord from the gear to the point.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 3 ай бұрын
All that is getting filtered by my hifi power filter, then the goal is to transport the power in an equally clean way to the gear.
@carlitosgomez71
@carlitosgomez71 14 күн бұрын
Power filters can also effect the sound in a negative way fyi
@donerskine7935
@donerskine7935 4 ай бұрын
For audio quality, these work best when connected to a Hi-Fi power station, with a Hi-fi national electricity distribution network, using Hi-Fi fuses, and earthed to a Hi-Fi planet. Otherwise, any sound improvement is in the deluded imagination of the listener who is easily parted from their money.
@ABouchez
@ABouchez 4 ай бұрын
Yes, we should not forget to change the cables in our walls, and in the street, and the turbine in your electricity factory!
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Changing the cables only after the power filters should usually do the trick.
@donerskine7935
@donerskine7935 4 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioStuff If the 'trick' is to relieve gullible buyers of their cash.
@cobar5342
@cobar5342 4 ай бұрын
Most expensive power cables are not worth buying
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
I have yet to try some ultra high-end ones, but ones from Monosaudio aren't overly expensive in my opinion.
@AmazonasBiotop
@AmazonasBiotop 3 ай бұрын
Why do the one with long nails not insert the power cable all the way in.. Of course you will not get the benifits of the better conectors when they are inadequately used.. I hope you didn't use the cables that way!
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 3 ай бұрын
It was that way just to easier record the footage, as they sit really tight in there. I didn't use them that way, I always push all the way in ;)
@northox
@northox 4 ай бұрын
BS
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 4 ай бұрын
GM from Toronto ☕️ The snakiest of snake oil…..but I’m a fan of decent quality build,connections and cosmetic appeal.
@TecraTube
@TecraTube 4 ай бұрын
true
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Can't disagree with the build quality and aesthetics, it's very good on these.
@adissabovic
@adissabovic 4 ай бұрын
There's one born every minute...
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Not sure what you mean
@mihaischitcu1917
@mihaischitcu1917 4 ай бұрын
Now why not verify that what you're saying is true by testing the reverse: try the flimsiest, thinnest and unnecessarily long power cables that you can find and observe the changes. Between those and high end ones you should really be able to hear and even measure a difference.
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 4 ай бұрын
There has to be a middle ground between placing power crystals to heal the energy of the room to improve audio quality, and spotify on counterfeit Air Pods from Aliexpress... Tho I have a hard time finding people in between for some reason.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Power crystals? What even is that? haha
@olleollsson7756
@olleollsson7756 3 ай бұрын
Snake oil!
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 3 ай бұрын
Why'd you think that way?
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 4 ай бұрын
Oh my god ... Please tell me you don't actually believe this crap.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
There's nothing to believe in, it can be heard.
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 4 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioStuff Take it one step further ... ask WHY you heard the difference. It makes no sense that a hunk of wire is going to change the sound of your system... so at least be curious enough to ask "What else changed?" For example: sitting just an inch or two off center when listening can totally change what you hear.
@Maccaboy1984
@Maccaboy1984 4 ай бұрын
Have you had your nails done? 😂
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
These aren't my hands 🤣
@andrew2004sydney
@andrew2004sydney 4 ай бұрын
These power cables and data cables make NO difference. (I'm an electrical engineer).
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 3 ай бұрын
They do. (I'm an audiophile).
@andrew2004sydney
@andrew2004sydney 3 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioStuff Try being a bit scientific instead.
@slawek6829
@slawek6829 4 ай бұрын
Is the cable cooking 🍳???
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
Hmm?
@oldphrt
@oldphrt 15 күн бұрын
Just use the one in the box and forget about it. They have no effect on performance.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 15 күн бұрын
With lower end gear, it might not have much effect. However, as you get to the better, more resolving AMPs/DACs - using the cheapo stock cord is not a good idea in the long run.
@oldphrt
@oldphrt 15 күн бұрын
@@TheAudioStuff Wrong. They have no effect on performance.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 15 күн бұрын
What system have you been testing that on?
@10sassafras
@10sassafras 4 ай бұрын
Such a silly video. Perhaps a satire on audiophile gullibility??
@al-mukhantich
@al-mukhantich Ай бұрын
Upgrade the last 150 cm of all crap residential electrical wiring to the power station. Great 👍 One less garbage channel to watch.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff Ай бұрын
There seems to be a misunderstanding. So let me clear it up! Replacing the last whatever length of dirty wiring is indeed not the smartest thing in the world to do - I totally agree with you! That's why in all my tests, and in my day to day use, I replace only the wiring, carrying out the clean power from my HiFi power conditioner. - That approach makes a lot more sense ;)
@al-mukhantich
@al-mukhantich Ай бұрын
@@TheAudioStuff yes agreed. Anything coming out of your hifi specialized power supply is important, anything before the low noise regulated linear power supply is practically useless. That's a fact.
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff Ай бұрын
@@al-mukhantich well... if you don't believe in that either, then I have something for you, that you can't deny. Non shielded cables are radiating noise everywhere, and it gets to all components nearby. Superior shielding is just a single part of hifi cables.
@toG-i9i
@toG-i9i 4 ай бұрын
Was this dude wearing nail polish?or was it a woman with very manly hands?
@TheAudioStuff
@TheAudioStuff 4 ай бұрын
These are not my hands 😂😂
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