I was just about to pull the trigger on an air expedition II until I stumbled on this video. A few phone calls later and I have a soar 12 on order. Can’t wait to hit the rivers in northwest Montana on this thing. Thanks for the great video!
@benlzicar76286 ай бұрын
Did you mean to say Aire Outfitter II? Those are great boats, arguably the best IKs on the market, but it's just a different style of craft. If you want comfort, gear hauling, and adaptability then the SOAR is the way to go! Glad to hear the new owners got orders up and running as well. SOAR just recently changed ownership.
@glenberry99293 жыл бұрын
SOAR makes the best inflatable canoe/kayak/raft hands down. I know the SOARs are considered canoes, but I included kayaks and rafts simply because SOAR is better than any inflatable, period, hands down, end of sentence. Over the past 20 years I have owned 16 (yes, sixteen) SOAR canoes, both 14’ and 16’ models. Since 2002 I have outfitted and guided 39 week long river expeditions on the San Juan (goosenecks) in southern Utah, Desolation & Gray Canyons on the Green River in central Utah, and the Payette river in central Idaho. I am not a professional river guide, just a river rat who enjoys sharing the river multi-day experience with friends, family, youth groups, and Scouts. My largest group to date has been 24 people on the Payette this past summer of 2021. I have developed a catamaran bar system which allows me to put 2 SOAR canoes together using hammerhead 2” diameter PVC pipe and NRS 2’ straps, and the result is a 7’ wide x 16‘ long catamaran canoe that will hold up to 2,000 lbs., and is more stable than any whitewater raft on the market. I have canoed through class IV rapids that regularly flip rafts, and I have yet to be flipped in a 16’ catamaran SOAR. The center of gravity of the SOAR is much lower to the water than a whitewater raft. Lower center of gravity = greater stability. The lashing grommets on the SOAR are the best system out there for securing gear in a boat. I don’t understand why other inflatable manufacturers do not provide similar gear lashing system. If there was something out there better than a SOAR I would buy it. But there is nothing out there better than SOAR for river running. Some people say the SOARs are too expensive. I say you get what you pay for. If you want quality, durability, convenience, performance, you need to be willing to pay for it. With proper care and maintenance, a SOAR will give you 20 years of the best fun of your life. Glen Berry Eagle, Idaho
@benlzicar76283 жыл бұрын
Excellent synopsis Glen! It's funny you mentioned your SOARCAT rig, because my river friends were just discussion the feasibility of such a rig on our MF Salmon run a few months ago :D I many need to see some photos of your setup now that I know it's a serious possibility.
@north612 жыл бұрын
That's a really well made video..Thanks..I got the 16 foot version this summer...good boats.
@billmartin80924 жыл бұрын
Great job showing the versatility, I have had my S-14 for 12 years it’s still like new and she has been all over the state of Florida from springs to being dragged on lava coral in the keys. They are special boats and always have a place in my life.
@benlzicar76284 жыл бұрын
Always great having a boat you can abuse the crap out of and it will still take you where you want to go :)
@XanderBudnick3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for sharing
@benlzicar76283 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kayak19654 жыл бұрын
SOAR owner for 20 years here. I've run some bigger class IV with it unloaded and it handles it like a dream. Love this boat.
@RestorationAustralia4 жыл бұрын
Great gear, I was a kayak-er back in Europe.
@jelhorvatich93952 жыл бұрын
I wish we could have Soar in the UK…
@thilo91734 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Looking at the Pro Pioneer!
@garyalan51563 жыл бұрын
I own a Soar 14. I've had it for ... 7 or 8 years. I've used it in Virginia, Maryland, Florida (Indian River), and Idaho waters (St Joe and South Fork of Snake). I moved to Tennessee recently. Gonna have to take it out here too. BTW, you can use them standing up with a 10' 6" kayak paddle too. Pros: Easy storage; good in whitewater, versatile; great weight capacity; durable. Cons: Heavy, are tough to paddle in winds. Still, it maybe the most versatile boat on the market. You can even rig a motor on it.
@benlzicar76283 жыл бұрын
Glad you love your boat Gary! IMHO for their actual cargo capacity they're probably one of the lightest weight options out there :D I've actually debated picking up a squirt to have something fun and lighter weight for day trips, even 2-3 night trips would be great in that boat.
@mikelewis50194 жыл бұрын
Love my Canyon had it for three years and gets used more than my Kayaks also just bought a Buffalo Canoe got to say it is nice sometimes not having to inflate
@benlzicar76284 жыл бұрын
I haven't use my Aires at all since getting the Canyon.... lets just say paddling on your butt all day is just boring to me now :D Being able to haul the kitchen sink on trips as well is bonus.
@TK-vs2sn4 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a SOAR Canyon, haven't gotten it out yet, but looking forward to it.
@benlzicar76284 жыл бұрын
You got any questions about rigging and such let me know!
@TK-vs2sn4 жыл бұрын
@@benlzicar7628 I picked mine up for a screaming deal but it is sans seats. Thought I would fashion some from some marine plywood and lacquer (like my rafting table). What are the seat dimensions?
@benlzicar76284 жыл бұрын
@@TK-vs2sn 19"x9" is the rough dimension. Should be pretty straight forward to fab. Good luck!
@anthonystout7374 Жыл бұрын
I get so tired of being asked "what kind of boat is that?" and being looked at like I'm going to die. People act like I just started boating yesterday when I run it in whitewater. It's annoying. I've been running rivers since I was 12 and over the two years I've had this boat, I've found it handles whitewater really well!
@benlzicar7628 Жыл бұрын
Just got off of SF Owyhee this weekend with it loaded down with gear, handled Class IV maneuvers no problem, not a single mishap the whole trip, and everyone else was very thankful for the dutch oven cooking and giant cooler I brought along :)
@BigHouse9074 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. I own 4 hard shell canoes that I have used for some extensive Alaska back country tripping. I am considering picking up an inflatable to extend my options for remote tripping that requires fly in drop offs.
@benlzicar76283 жыл бұрын
Their expedition is rated at 1500lbs, seen pictures of people hauling out Kodiaks or a large bull on them :D
@timzoclamzo4 жыл бұрын
Loved the video!
@thomasmartin96502 жыл бұрын
What is the round black pack you can see behind the seat at 6:33? Is that a cooler?
@benlzicar76282 жыл бұрын
Yup, soft cooler! Beer close at hand :D
@ryancooper36292 жыл бұрын
This is really cool, I had no idea such a boat existed. I'm wondering though, how do you portage it? Is there some sort of yoke attachment you mount for the portage? Thats one problem I have with my big inflatable kayak. While the weight is fine, its just super awkward to portage because you can balance it on your shoulders. You almost have to have the thing balanced on your head which is awful for visibility because it means your head is "in" the boat. I'd also add, how does it handle against the current or into a heavy headwind on flatwater? That's the main reason I tend to leave my inflatable at home and bring a hard body canoe instead. The inflatable (even with a skeg) is great with current at your back or when going across still water but the second you are pushing into a strong breeze or trying to go against a light current the thing is infuriating because all it wants to do is spin around.
@benlzicar76282 жыл бұрын
Seat is centered in the middle of the boat, so I just throw the entire boat over my head and use the seat as a yoke, it works out really well :) Haven't been on a trip where I need to portage yet, but I've carried it down/up to many spots on the river.
@buysomerice2 жыл бұрын
Any reason you don’t go with filters instead of bringing water?
@benlzicar76282 жыл бұрын
Because the water is muddy and saline as hell on the San Raf. If you settle water in a bucket you can filter it, but it's much simpler just to carry your own water on most trips.
@charleskaucic50473 жыл бұрын
That’s funny. We had alumacrafts that were like 76lbs.
@benlzicar76283 жыл бұрын
They can certainly be that light, but if you ever want a canoe that's rated for anything more than flatwater, they really start to go up in weight, due to all the reinforcement they need to survive rock bashing. They also tend to have hull designs that are more forgiving in river water which comes at the cost of increased weight.
@charleskaucic50473 жыл бұрын
@@benlzicar7628 yeah we used to run rivers in Alaska in Coleman canoes and I forget how heavy they are but they are superior rock knocking boats. The other canoes I’ve used like the Kevlar in the BWCAW in Minnesota I wouldn’t even want to hit a stick with lol.
@myusernameblows2 жыл бұрын
You should've mentioned in this video that you asked to get a deal on the boat in exchange for a review
@mortschubert39093 жыл бұрын
What is trailing behind the boats?
@benlzicar76283 жыл бұрын
Tag/tail line for easy handling of the boat when on the shore for guiding and tying it up. Typically you avoid something like this when in more serious water or have it be very short
@spokojnyMamut3 жыл бұрын
What is material of SOAR? Its rubber or pcv? And what is pressure in chamber?
@benlzicar76283 жыл бұрын
From the SOAR FAQ page: 30 oz. hypalon coating on the tubes and the top of the floor surface. The bottom of the floor is coated with 40 neoprene coating. An 840 denier nylon base fabric all over provides excellent puncture and tear resistance.
@spokojnyMamut3 жыл бұрын
@@benlzicar7628 Thanks. Its a upper class equipement ;)
@wesscott4013 жыл бұрын
Hypalon and Neoprene - no rubber or PVC!
@spokojnyMamut3 жыл бұрын
@@wesscott401 but neopren and hypalon are rubber...